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| Started by | Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> |
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| First post | 2015-03-14 12:56 -0400 |
| Last post | 2015-03-15 11:23 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 233 — 20 participants |
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OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-14 12:56 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-14 18:26 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-14 14:41 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-14 15:12 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-14 19:50 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-14 19:07 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-15 13:02 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-15 18:16 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:44 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-16 09:26 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-16 10:43 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-03-14 19:13 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 15:41 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2015-03-16 12:07 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 19:28 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-17 10:46 -0500
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 15:57 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-17 10:34 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-17 13:43 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-17 11:08 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 23:28 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-17 10:48 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-16 15:42 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-17 08:56 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 17:58 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:21 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-15 08:46 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 16:58 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-14 19:09 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-15 11:34 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 08:37 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-15 13:04 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-16 08:19 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-15 15:20 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-16 13:28 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 00:40 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2015-03-16 12:04 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-17 08:49 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-16 15:33 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-17 08:59 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-16 14:06 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 12:38 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-15 16:53 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-15 13:18 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 13:59 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 14:07 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 14:13 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 16:33 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-15 15:32 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 18:49 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 18:30 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:34 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 06:54 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-15 15:31 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 00:42 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 19:00 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 19:15 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-16 08:24 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 18:58 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-16 13:31 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 01:09 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 12:11 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-15 15:30 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-16 08:26 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:37 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-15 12:52 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-15 16:36 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-15 15:24 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:38 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 13:47 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-15 15:27 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-16 08:22 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 13:48 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:32 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-15 21:38 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-14 19:50 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-15 08:40 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-14 17:08 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-14 21:56 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-03-15 17:00 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-14 19:49 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-03-15 17:03 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-14 20:17 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-15 08:47 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-15 08:55 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-15 15:33 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-15 16:33 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:32 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-16 06:03 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-16 19:32 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-16 00:16 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:10 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-17 17:49 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 23:29 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-18 00:15 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:50 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-18 01:15 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 13:02 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-18 14:07 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-19 08:59 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 20:03 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-18 13:15 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-19 09:31 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-18 18:32 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-19 13:44 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 22:22 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-19 23:15 +1300
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-19 10:54 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-19 11:09 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-19 09:22 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-19 14:44 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-19 16:33 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-19 12:52 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-19 17:05 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-19 15:52 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-20 09:48 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-19 17:47 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-19 21:54 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-20 09:40 +1300
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-19 14:07 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-19 09:21 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-19 06:39 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-19 09:20 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 17:24 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 23:02 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-18 13:19 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-18 20:30 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 17:24 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-18 16:16 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 19:32 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-18 16:45 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-19 13:38 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-19 09:17 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-19 14:46 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 22:18 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-19 10:15 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-19 13:35 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-19 17:35 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-19 15:52 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-19 14:09 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-19 13:36 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 22:22 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-19 09:08 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-20 09:00 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-19 10:54 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-20 10:59 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-20 19:56 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-20 13:21 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-20 22:59 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-21 13:08 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-21 16:00 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-22 09:54 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-21 16:38 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-19 11:00 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 23:10 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 23:41 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-18 19:52 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 23:57 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-19 06:46 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 20:01 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-18 20:04 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-19 09:05 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-19 14:45 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-19 06:43 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-03-15 17:08 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 19:20 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-15 08:37 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 14:09 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 16:19 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 17:25 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 18:30 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-03-15 17:13 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 14:04 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 14:08 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 07:21 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 07:41 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-15 15:27 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 08:42 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 12:06 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 19:23 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-15 11:05 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-16 08:14 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 19:20 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-14 18:58 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-15 14:09 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-14 19:52 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-15 15:27 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-15 11:50 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 08:02 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 08:54 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 09:02 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-15 15:31 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 17:43 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 19:03 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 20:00 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 20:31 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 20:50 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 23:03 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 08:40 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-16 09:18 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:27 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 23:40 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 04:36 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 08:47 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:16 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-17 09:16 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 18:43 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:31 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 08:54 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-15 12:06 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 18:47 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 12:07 -0700
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-15 22:37 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 18:50 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-03-15 21:21 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 18:53 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 19:09 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 19:24 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 19:58 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-16 09:19 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 20:18 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 20:21 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-16 08:26 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-16 17:37 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 14:08 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-15 20:22 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 06:49 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-16 20:20 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-17 11:54 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-18 08:51 +1200
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:49 +0000
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 06:55 -0400
Re: OT: Mmmmmm Pi! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-15 11:23 -0400
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 03:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmgcjec.hee.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #71170 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like: > On 15-03-15 11:31, Lewis wrote: >> Well, a nautical mile is an extremely useful measure for a ship or a >> plane, so that use is likely to continue a long time. And, by the way, a >> Nautical Mile is a metric measure, being exactly and precisely defined >> as 1852 meters. > But its roots are of a second (degree) around the equator. So what? It *is* a metric measure. Period. Anyone claiming differently is wrong. -- http://2blog.kreme.com You know, Calculus is sort of like measles. Once you've had it, you probably won't get it again, and you're glad of it. -- W. Carr
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 23:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <550650aa$0$19812$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #71219 |
On 15-03-15 23:27, Lewis wrote: > So what? It *is* a metric measure. Period. Anyone claiming differently > is wrong. nautical mile is defined as 1852 metres, and is in the http://www.bipm.org/fr/about-us/ list of defined measures. But it is not part of the metric system whose distance measures are in metres.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 04:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmgcnf7.sa6.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #71226 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like: > On 15-03-15 23:27, Lewis wrote: >> So what? It *is* a metric measure. Period. Anyone claiming differently >> is wrong. > nautical mile is defined as 1852 metres, and is in the > http://www.bipm.org/fr/about-us/ list of defined measures. But it is not > part of the metric system whose distance measures are in metres. It is not an SI unit, it *is* a metric measure. -- http://2blog.kreme.com Well boys, we got three engines out, we got more holes in us than a horse trader's mule, the radio is gone and we're leaking fuel and if we was flying any lower why we'd need sleigh bells on this thing... but we got one little budge on those Roosskies. At this height why they might harpoon us but they dang sure ain't gonna spot us on no radar screen!
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 08:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <qfydnaLhq7NuTZvInZ2dnUU7-XOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71219 |
On 2015-03-15 23:27, Lewis wrote: > Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like: >> On 15-03-15 11:31, Lewis wrote: > >>> Well, a nautical mile is an extremely useful measure for a ship or a >>> plane, so that use is likely to continue a long time. And, by the way, a >>> Nautical Mile is a metric measure, being exactly and precisely defined >>> as 1852 meters. > >> But its roots are of a second (degree) around the equator. That would be 1 minute of latitude around any meridian. > > So what? It *is* a metric measure. Period. Anyone claiming differently > is wrong. You're wrong. It is not a metric measure. It is defined (now) using an exact number of metres. That does not make it "metric" (or SI) any more than a 12 Oz beer bottle is metric when labeled as 341 ml.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-03-17 11:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmgg396.ucr.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #71249 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> was all, like: > On 2015-03-15 23:27, Lewis wrote: >> Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like: >>> On 15-03-15 11:31, Lewis wrote: >> >>>> Well, a nautical mile is an extremely useful measure for a ship or a >>>> plane, so that use is likely to continue a long time. And, by the way, a >>>> Nautical Mile is a metric measure, being exactly and precisely defined >>>> as 1852 meters. >> >>> But its roots are of a second (degree) around the equator. > That would be 1 minute of latitude around any meridian. >> >> So what? It *is* a metric measure. Period. Anyone claiming differently >> is wrong. > You're wrong. It is not a metric measure. It is defined (now) using an > exact number of metres. That does not make it "metric" (or SI) It DOES make it a metric measure because the measure is defined using a metric scale. I never said it was SI. In fact, I think I said specifically that it was not. > any more than a 12 Oz beer bottle is metric when labeled as 341 ml. 12Oz is not defined as 341ml, that is an approximate conversion. -- http://2blog.kreme.com Personal isn't the same as important. What sort of person could think like that? And it dawned on him that while Ankh in the past had had its share of evil rulers, and simply bad rulers, it had never yet come under the heel of a good ruler. That might be the most terrifying prospect of all. --Men at Arms
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-17 09:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fY6dnfo2ML-utJXInZ2dnUU7-RGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71344 |
On 2015-03-17 07:16, Lewis wrote: > Okay, so one time? In band camp? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> was all, like: >> On 2015-03-15 23:27, Lewis wrote: >>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like: >>>> On 15-03-15 11:31, Lewis wrote: >>> >>>>> Well, a nautical mile is an extremely useful measure for a ship or a >>>>> plane, so that use is likely to continue a long time. And, by the way, a >>>>> Nautical Mile is a metric measure, being exactly and precisely defined >>>>> as 1852 meters. >>> >>>> But its roots are of a second (degree) around the equator. > >> That would be 1 minute of latitude around any meridian. > >>> >>> So what? It *is* a metric measure. Period. Anyone claiming differently >>> is wrong. > >> You're wrong. It is not a metric measure. It is defined (now) using an >> exact number of metres. That does not make it "metric" (or SI) > > It DOES make it a metric measure because the measure is defined using a > metric scale. I never said it was SI. In fact, I think I said > specifically that it was not. It is not a "metric measure" it is a thing defined using a metric measure. If you can't see the difference that's not my problem. > >> any more than a 12 Oz beer bottle is metric when labeled as 341 ml. > > 12Oz is not defined as 341ml, that is an approximate conversion. Not in Canada. The bottle is marked 341 ml because that is what the bottler declares it contains. Not an approximation of 12 fl oz. What it contains is defined with a metric measure.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 18:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <luadnTAaLMmBlpvInZ2dnUU7-IednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71113 |
On 2015-03-15 11:31, Lewis wrote: > Well, a nautical mile is an extremely useful measure for a ship or a > plane, so that use is likely to continue a long time. And, by the way, a > Nautical Mile is a metric measure, being exactly and precisely defined > as 1852 meters. No, it is not a metric measure. But the Nautical Mile is now defined as exactly 1852 metres. The original NM was 1 minute of latitude. As you say, very useful. Then the British (Navy?) set it (at some point) as exactly 6080 feet (1853.184 metres). Its definition kept changing due to different estimates of the circumference of the earth (along the meridians) it was not exactly 1852 metres but all sorts of values depending on who, what, where, when was being navigated. I worked on airborne nav systems for military aircraft in the 80's and our contracts with the end user would set out which value for NM would be used in the code. Across the USAF we used 2 or 3 different values, USMC another, Italian Cabinieri this, Italian Navy that, Turks this one, Swiss this, and so on. (There were 2 or 3 "dominant" ones). 1852 m was actually not all that common in those days. The original "metre" was set as 10,000,000 metres from the equator to the poles. (Impossible that the south limb is the same as the north limb along a given meridian - never mind the infinite number of them ... ). So. 90° * 60' = 5400 NM = 10,000 km = 1851.19... metres per NM. Of course the actual distance from the equator to the poles is not exactly 10,000 km or 5400 NM so using the physical earth as a reference for a definition was not a solid idea from the start (though pretty good overall). Note that 1° near the equator is 59.7 NM, but near the poles it about 60.3 NM[1]. And always changing as the Earth changes. Further, local projections would result in local definition of a NM when converted to metres for local use (I seem to recall the Swiss using a particular value along with their particular "Swiss Grid" (a UTM system)). Sometime in 1929 there was some conference and it was decided (with the latest geomatics information of the day) that 1852 metres would be the accepted international standard. 1 minute of latitude is not exactly 1852 metres, however. (Close enough not to matter, of course). But the US NM was 6080.2 feet (1853.249 metres) until 1954. It has taken a long time to get fixed into systems ... and I bet there are systems out there that are still using older definitions of the NM. As a pilot I've often used minutes of latitude on charts to estimate distances, of course. There is it's best practical value that you referred to.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 03:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmgcjlt.hee.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #71178 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> was all, like: > On 2015-03-15 11:31, Lewis wrote: >> Well, a nautical mile is an extremely useful measure for a ship or a >> plane, so that use is likely to continue a long time. And, by the way, a >> Nautical Mile is a metric measure, being exactly and precisely defined >> as 1852 meters. > No, it is not a metric measure. Yes it is. > But the Nautical Mile is now defined as exactly 1852 metres. And what the fuck do you think "metric measure" means? -- http://2blog.kreme.com SOURCERERS MAKE THEIR OWN DESTINY. THEY TOUCH THE EARTH LIGHTLY.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 08:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xvedncjrv-rvT5vInZ2dnUU7-T2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71220 |
On 2015-03-15 23:31, Lewis wrote: > Okay, so one time? In band camp? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> was all, like: >> On 2015-03-15 11:31, Lewis wrote: > >>> Well, a nautical mile is an extremely useful measure for a ship or a >>> plane, so that use is likely to continue a long time. And, by the way, a >>> Nautical Mile is a metric measure, being exactly and precisely defined >>> as 1852 meters. > >> No, it is not a metric measure. > > Yes it is. Nope. > >> But the Nautical Mile is now defined as exactly 1852 metres. > > And what the fuck do you think "metric measure" means? Base units and derived units. Metres. Cubic metres. Kg. grams. Seconds. Amperes. The above are metric units. Saying a Nautical Mile is 1852 metres long does not make it a metric unit. They could well have made it 1851.15 metres and it would have been a fine unit to use and it still would not be "metric" - just defined in metres.
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| From | Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 12:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <me4akg$40s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71096 |
On 3/15/15 8:02 a, Alan Browne wrote: > The US has been a metric country since the late 1800's (no typo's > there). But inserted language to keep allow trading in Imperial units > where that was more convenient. Since the US traded heavily with the > UK, metric had little chance. Well, since the US does _not_ use the Imperial scale, I'm not so sure that's why the US has never adopted the metric system. Trading between the UK and US would still involve conversion of units. For example, 1 Imperial gallon = 1.2 US wet gallons (how gasoline is sold) or = 1.3 US dry gallons (how raspberries could be sold; see 'peck' as a unit of measure). Inertia, hubris, and xenophobia are much more likely explanations for sticking with US gallons, etc. (But we _do_ have our 2-liter (NOT 'litre') bottles of pop!) > The UK is selectively metric as well. (In Canada we still use Imperial > for building materials since that is strongly linked to US trade though > I do see more and more metric in commercial building plans). > > Also, the US military was never 100% metric, but selectively so. The > Army and Marine corps moreso (as they had to work most closely with NATO > countries) and the USAF a little less so (still use Nautical Miles, for > example) and the USN least so (retain to this day oddball units like > "yards"). > > Most US military bid specs and system specs are supposed to be metric, > but they are often heavily laced with Imperial units. Yes, the US military and US business have been much more likely to use metric because of necessity and profits. -- Isn't it spooky how the Republicans deny evolution but fanatically embrace Social Darwinism.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 18:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <_-CdnaDo9oZtlpvInZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71121 |
On 2015-03-15 12:06, Fred Moore wrote: > On 3/15/15 8:02 a, Alan Browne wrote: >> The US has been a metric country since the late 1800's (no typo's >> there). But inserted language to keep allow trading in Imperial units >> where that was more convenient. Since the US traded heavily with the >> UK, metric had little chance. > > Well, since the US does _not_ use the Imperial scale, I'm not so sure Of course it does. Feet. Inches. Miles. etc. One difference is the tiny US gallon as you discuss below (I had no idea about "dry gallons"). > that's why the US has never adopted the metric system. Trading between > the UK and US would still involve conversion of units. For example, 1 > Imperial gallon = 1.2 US wet gallons (how gasoline is sold) or = 1.3 US > dry gallons (how raspberries could be sold; see 'peck' as a unit of > measure). Those were easier to convert, I suppose. > > Inertia, hubris, and xenophobia are much more likely explanations for > sticking with US gallons, etc. (But we _do_ have our 2-liter (NOT > 'litre') bottles of pop!) The US uses metric in many fluids, beginning with alcohol, as those are international standards so useful for IMPEX. > >> The UK is selectively metric as well. (In Canada we still use Imperial >> for building materials since that is strongly linked to US trade though >> I do see more and more metric in commercial building plans). >> >> Also, the US military was never 100% metric, but selectively so. The >> Army and Marine corps moreso (as they had to work most closely with NATO >> countries) and the USAF a little less so (still use Nautical Miles, for >> example) and the USN least so (retain to this day oddball units like >> "yards"). >> >> Most US military bid specs and system specs are supposed to be metric, >> but they are often heavily laced with Imperial units. > > Yes, the US military and US business have been much more likely to use > metric because of necessity and profits. The military for scientific and cooperative reasons. Commercial because foreign contracts require it.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 12:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <150320151207497573%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #71096 |
In article <X9SdneSQf5om6ZjInZ2dnUU7-bednZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > > With the exception of the military where the dd/mm/yyyy convention is > > used. Also the US military has used the metric system ever since the > > founding of NATO in 1949. > > The USMC and USAF people I worked with wrote the date yyyy-mm-dd. The US military started switching to that format in the early 1980s because their computers required that format (sans the hyphens).
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 22:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <150320152237120536%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #71148 |
In article <150320151207497573%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>In article <X9SdneSQf5om6ZjInZ2dnUU7-bednZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
><alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> > With the exception of the military where the dd/mm/yyyy convention is
>> > used. Also the US military has used the metric system ever since the
>> > founding of NATO in 1949.
>>
>> The USMC and USAF people I worked with wrote the date yyyy-mm-dd.
>
>The US military started switching to that format in the early 1980s
>because their computers required that format (sans the hyphens).
Don't be silly. Computers don't "require" anything - they do as they're
told. I expect it was some geeks slipping it through, and they were
supinely pandered to instead of being given a boot up the bum.
--
"I love the way that Microsoft follows standards.
In much the same manner as fish follow migrating caribou."
- Paul Tomblin, ASR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 18:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <_-CdnaPo9oYkkZvInZ2dnUU7-d0AAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71148 |
On 2015-03-15 15:07, Michelle Steiner wrote: > In article <X9SdneSQf5om6ZjInZ2dnUU7-bednZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne > <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >>> With the exception of the military where the dd/mm/yyyy convention is >>> used. Also the US military has used the metric system ever since the >>> founding of NATO in 1949. >> >> The USMC and USAF people I worked with wrote the date yyyy-mm-dd. > > The US military started switching to that format in the early 1980s > because their computers required that format (sans the hyphens). Not so sure about that. There are so many databases from those years (pre- 90's) where dates were entered as MMDDYY, or DDMMYY (and no indication of which - needed to save space) used by government and military, that the use of formats was more granular - brigade level or smaller.
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| From | me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 21:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <me4t4n$ejv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71096 |
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > The UK is selectively metric as well. (In Canada we still use Imperial > for building materials since that is strongly linked to US trade though > I do see more and more metric in commercial building plans). It's not just building materials. Fruit and vegetables are priced and sold per pound, while cheese, meat, and fish are priced in metric units. Milk is sold by the litre, butter by the pound. Temperatures are given in ºC, except when baking, when ºF are used. Lots of other examples abound. -- K. Lang may your lum reek.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 18:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <16udnWOp49IYkJvInZ2dnUU7-YWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71169 |
On 2015-03-15 17:21, Király wrote: > It's not just building materials. Fruit and vegetables are priced and > sold per pound, while cheese, meat, and fish are priced in metric units. > Milk is sold by the litre, butter by the pound. Temperatures are given > in ºC, except when baking, when ºF are used. Lots of other examples > abound. Here its pretty metric, but sizes haven't all changed to round metric amounts. Butter is sold in 453 gram blocks. (1 Lb.) Beer is in 341 ml bottles (12 imp. Oz). Etc. Other products are sold in round amounts of ml or litres or Kg.
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 19:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5506113a$0$57907$c3e8da3$c8b7d2e6@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #71169 |
In article <me4t4n$ejv$1@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) wrote: > It's not just building materials. Fruit and vegetables are priced and > sold per pound, while cheese, meat, and fish are priced in metric units. > Milk is sold by the litre, butter by the pound. Temperatures are given > in ºC, except when baking, when ºF are used. Lots of other examples > abound. The official weights and measures of Canada are metric, but groceries are advertised in pounds, with the metric equivalent in small text. There was a court case, went to the supreme court, allowed this. I don't have a reference, but Trudeau-the-Elder wanted to outright ban the Imperial system, and it became a "freedom of expression" thing. Milk is sold in litres. We have a real interesting pollutant where they sell 4 litres of milk, in 3 plastic bags, stuffed into another plastic bag which the shop-keeper will happily put into a plastic carrier bag. Bags of milk confuse the American tourists. Butter is sold in pounds, but the bricks are marked in metric (454 grams); I think it's because packaging equipment comes from the US. We have to pay a premium for sticks though, so I cut my bricks up (I like the sticks). Eggs are sold by the dozen. (I've seen a carton of ten eggs in France). Baking is given in F (usually 350, the people's temperature), in hono(u)r of Julia Child, and despite the best efforts of Gordon Ramsey. Jamie Oliver would like us to use Gas Mark 4. Gas is interesting. It's sold in litres, but 4 litres (pretty much) make up a US gallon, with the result that while we still talk about gallons, we don't mean the Imperial one. A pint of beer is 20 bloody ounces, though. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 19:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <550614c1$0$6732$c3e8da3$460562f1@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #71186 |
On 15-03-15 19:09, Warren Oates wrote: > Baking is given in F (usually 350, the people's temperature), in > hono(u)r of Julia Child, and despite the best efforts of Gordon Ramsey. > Jamie Oliver would like us to use Gas Mark 4. Many bilingual cooking instructions will use the F in english because they refuse to adapt, while using C in french. It was conservatives in Ontario (especially Peterborough) who opposed metric and ruined the conversion for Canada. Other countries such as Australia and NZ succesfully converted all measures. Canada stopped halfway. > Gas is interesting. It's sold in litres, but 4 litres (pretty much) make > up a US gallon, with the result that while we still talk about gallons, > we don't mean the Imperial one. Sorry, but when it was sold in gallons, it was sold in imperial gallons, not US gallons. So a direct comparison was never possible. I remembger Ilford photographic products were confusing as hell because their gallon equivalents never matched (I suspect they use US gallons), but I grew up metric and always used metric measures and my measuring equipment was metric for photo processing. At grocery store, I make a point or asking for meat in metric quantities. I refuse to let elderly conservative prevent me from using the system in which I was educated in. I was in grade 2 when the switch was announced and our school immediatly started to teach us only netric so I never learned how many feet in a mile.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 19:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <O72dncmPGeI8gZvInZ2dnUU7-dOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71191 |
On 2015-03-15 19:24, JF Mezei wrote: > Sorry, but when it was sold in gallons, it was sold in imperial gallons, > not US gallons. So a direct comparison was never possible. Am Imperial gallon is pretty much bang on 5 litres. When I started flying the aircraft manuals were US gallons but the airport FBO's sold in Imperial gallons. The switch to metric wasn't a big deal if you knew how to operate your wheel. (E6B). Then there's the Gimli Glider (which I've flown on).
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-16 09:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <160320150919343215%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #71194 |
In article <O72dncmPGeI8gZvInZ2dnUU7-dOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >On 2015-03-15 19:24, JF Mezei wrote: > >> Sorry, but when it was sold in gallons, it was sold in imperial gallons, >> not US gallons. So a direct comparison was never possible. > >Am Imperial gallon is pretty much bang on 5 litres. 4.55 litres is hardly 5 litres. -- "If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid tripping your hair-trigger insecurities." - D M Procida, UCSM
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