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| Started by | "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> |
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| First post | 2015-03-10 16:29 -0400 |
| Last post | 2015-03-17 11:17 -0700 |
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Apple Watch: The Disappointments "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-10 16:29 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-13 12:08 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-03-13 15:57 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-13 16:01 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 09:11 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 07:31 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 10:46 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 14:29 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 16:14 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-15 12:07 +1200
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 17:22 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-15 15:14 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:56 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:19 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 19:25 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-14 07:52 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 11:01 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 14:26 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 19:24 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 17:24 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 18:46 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-16 10:56 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-16 11:17 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:07 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-13 14:48 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 17:53 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-13 15:02 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-14 13:11 +1300
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 20:12 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-19 02:02 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 22:14 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-13 18:10 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 18:18 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-13 22:25 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-13 18:31 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-13 22:54 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-13 19:22 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-14 08:16 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-14 05:55 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 07:35 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-14 14:59 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 23:48 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-03-14 09:27 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-13 18:32 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-13 19:03 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-19 14:36 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-19 17:47 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-19 16:39 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-20 13:17 +1200
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 23:46 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 18:53 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 23:46 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-13 22:10 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 22:27 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-14 07:13 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-13 19:33 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 07:57 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 07:53 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 07:33 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-14 00:10 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 00:50 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-14 04:34 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 08:21 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 06:25 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 09:07 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 16:33 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 19:10 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 14:25 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-15 06:32 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 09:19 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 07:45 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-15 10:56 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-13 22:12 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-14 01:20 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 01:22 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-14 18:49 +1300
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 08:07 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 08:04 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 07:50 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 07:44 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-14 14:14 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-03-15 07:13 +0100
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 02:22 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-15 15:16 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 12:35 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-15 16:46 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 12:53 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:38 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-15 19:27 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 19:10 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-15 19:30 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 00:32 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-16 06:18 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 22:11 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 19:58 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-16 07:01 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-16 10:30 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 10:59 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-17 07:06 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:22 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-15 14:02 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:38 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:37 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-15 19:28 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 13:50 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-03-16 07:20 +0100
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-16 04:28 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 14:47 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-16 20:27 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-16 20:24 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-15 11:33 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:37 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 03:21 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 23:23 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-16 04:35 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments David Fritzinger <email@domain.com> - 2015-03-16 12:27 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-17 09:10 +1200
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-15 11:36 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-13 18:29 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-13 16:35 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-14 13:04 +1300
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-14 00:10 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 07:44 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 09:17 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 07:49 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 11:00 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 16:15 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-15 12:02 +1200
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-19 14:33 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-19 16:36 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-03-20 12:45 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-14 09:14 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-16 10:18 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 17:22 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-16 10:30 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 17:37 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-16 11:14 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-17 09:16 +1200
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-16 20:36 -0400
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:21 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-17 11:30 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-16 11:14 -0700
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 18:17 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:02 +0000
Re: Apple Watch: The Disappointments Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:17 -0700
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-14 00:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <140320150050086492%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #71004 |
In article <me0ca1$e4j$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > people are already used to charging phones at night and most people > > take off their watch to sleep so it's not that big of a deal. > > It's big deal to me... and that means I'll never buy this product > because of it. nobody said it will satisfy everyone. > And you asked what to I suggest? Make a friggin' watch that doesn't > need to charge every 18 hours. how do you plan on doing that, while keeping the watch small enough to not look stupid but can do everything that the apple watch or other smart watches (which have similar battery life) do? be specific.
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-14 04:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <me0rp6$h1i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71005 |
On 2015-03-14 04:50:08 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said: > In article <me0ca1$e4j$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> people are already used to charging phones at night and most people >>> take off their watch to sleep so it's not that big of a deal. >> >> It's big deal to me... and that means I'll never buy this product >> because of it. > > nobody said it will satisfy everyone. > >> And you asked what to I suggest? Make a friggin' watch that doesn't >> need to charge every 18 hours. > > how do you plan on doing that, while keeping the watch small enough to > not look stupid but can do everything that the apple watch or other > smart watches (which have similar battery life) do? > > be specific. That's an incredibly ridiculous statement to make. What makes you think * I * need to have a plan to do that? It isn't * MY * product. When I decide to make such a product, rest assured, you'll be the FIRST person I'll tell. How do YOU plan on fixing it? -- "The only difference between death and taxes is that death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets." - Will Rogers
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-14 08:21 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <140320150821311425%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #71019 |
In article <me0rp6$h1i$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > >> And you asked what to I suggest? Make a friggin' watch that doesn't > >> need to charge every 18 hours. > > > > how do you plan on doing that, while keeping the watch small enough to > > not look stupid but can do everything that the apple watch or other > > smart watches (which have similar battery life) do? > > > > be specific. > > That's an incredibly ridiculous statement to make. > > What makes you think * I * need to have a plan to do that? It isn't * > MY * product. nothing ridiculous about it. you said apple should have made a watch that lasted longer, so explain what they could have done differently so that it would last longer. what mistakes did apple make? since you can't, we can only conclude you're full of shit. the reality is that apple went well out of their way to maximize battery life. unfortunately, the laws of physics and the state of battery technology today puts some real world limitations on things.
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 06:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <me3mm1$ng9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71022 |
On 2015-03-14 12:21:31 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said: > In article <me0rp6$h1i$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> And you asked what to I suggest? Make a friggin' watch that doesn't >>>> need to charge every 18 hours. >>> >>> how do you plan on doing that, while keeping the watch small enough to >>> not look stupid but can do everything that the apple watch or other >>> smart watches (which have similar battery life) do? >>> >>> be specific. >> >> That's an incredibly ridiculous statement to make. >> >> What makes you think * I * need to have a plan to do that? It isn't * >> MY * product. > > nothing ridiculous about it. > > you said apple should have made a watch that lasted longer, so explain > what they could have done differently so that it would last longer. > what mistakes did apple make? Did I say they made any mistakes? You seem to want a fight... we'll look somewhere else. I said the battery life would appear to be a problem, and that having to charge it every day is a pain in the ass. Have you read anything on the battery life? > Apple defines the Apple Watch battery life here. According to the page, > the “all-day battery life is based on 18 hours with the following use: > 90 time checks, 90 notifications, 45 minutes of app use, and a > 30-minute workout with music playback from Apple Watch via Bluetooth, > over the course of 18 hours.” http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/09/apple-watchs-battery-life-could-be-its-achilles-heel/ http://www.wsj.com/articles/battery-life-worries-spring-up-about-apple-watch-1426031443 since > you can't, we can only conclude you're full of shit. Well, you'd be the expert on that. -- Never judge a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes. By then, you're a mile away, you've got his shoes,and you can say whatever the hell you want.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 09:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <150320150907180826%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #71092 |
In article <me3mm1$ng9$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> And you asked what to I suggest? Make a friggin' watch that doesn't > >>>> need to charge every 18 hours. > >>> > >>> how do you plan on doing that, while keeping the watch small enough to > >>> not look stupid but can do everything that the apple watch or other > >>> smart watches (which have similar battery life) do? > >>> > >>> be specific. > >> > >> That's an incredibly ridiculous statement to make. > >> > >> What makes you think * I * need to have a plan to do that? It isn't * > >> MY * product. > > > > nothing ridiculous about it. > > > > you said apple should have made a watch that lasted longer, so explain > > what they could have done differently so that it would last longer. > > what mistakes did apple make? > > Did I say they made any mistakes? You seem to want a fight... we'll > look somewhere else. yes you did say they made a mistake. you said that apple should have designed it so that the "friggin' watch doesn't need to charge every 18 hours". in other words, they screwed up. so what specifically did they do wrong? how could apple have designed a watch that lasted longer than 18 hours yet retained its functionality? simple question. > I said the battery life would appear to be a problem, and that having > to charge it every day is a pain in the ass. > Have you read anything on the battery life? much more than you have.
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 16:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <me4qa8$6lc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71099 |
On 2015-03-15 13:07:18 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said: > In article <me3mm1$ng9$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> And you asked what to I suggest? Make a friggin' watch that doesn't >>>>>> need to charge every 18 hours. >>>>> >>>>> how do you plan on doing that, while keeping the watch small enough to >>>>> not look stupid but can do everything that the apple watch or other >>>>> smart watches (which have similar battery life) do? >>>>> >>>>> be specific. >>>> >>>> That's an incredibly ridiculous statement to make. >>>> >>>> What makes you think * I * need to have a plan to do that? It isn't * >>>> MY * product. >>> >>> nothing ridiculous about it. >>> >>> you said apple should have made a watch that lasted longer, so explain >>> what they could have done differently so that it would last longer. >>> what mistakes did apple make? >> >> Did I say they made any mistakes? You seem to want a fight... we'll >> look somewhere else. > > yes you did say they made a mistake. > > you said that apple should have designed it so that the "friggin' watch > doesn't need to charge every 18 hours". in other words, they screwed > up. > > so what specifically did they do wrong? how could apple have designed a > watch that lasted longer than 18 hours yet retained its functionality? > > simple question. > >> I said the battery life would appear to be a problem, and that having >> to charge it every day is a pain in the ass. >> Have you read anything on the battery life? > > much more than you have. I'm done with you. -- When we talk to God, we're praying. When God talks to us, we're schizophrenic. -J Wagner
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 19:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <150320151910282194%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #71159 |
In article <me4qa8$6lc$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> And you asked what to I suggest? Make a friggin' watch that doesn't > >>>>>> need to charge every 18 hours. > >>>>> > >>>>> how do you plan on doing that, while keeping the watch small enough to > >>>>> not look stupid but can do everything that the apple watch or other > >>>>> smart watches (which have similar battery life) do? > >>>>> > >>>>> be specific. > >>>> > >>>> That's an incredibly ridiculous statement to make. > >>>> > >>>> What makes you think * I * need to have a plan to do that? It isn't * > >>>> MY * product. > >>> > >>> nothing ridiculous about it. > >>> > >>> you said apple should have made a watch that lasted longer, so explain > >>> what they could have done differently so that it would last longer. > >>> what mistakes did apple make? > >> > >> Did I say they made any mistakes? You seem to want a fight... we'll > >> look somewhere else. > > > > yes you did say they made a mistake. > > > > you said that apple should have designed it so that the "friggin' watch > > doesn't need to charge every 18 hours". in other words, they screwed > > up. > > > > so what specifically did they do wrong? how could apple have designed a > > watch that lasted longer than 18 hours yet retained its functionality? > > > > simple question. > > > >> I said the battery life would appear to be a problem, and that having > >> to charge it every day is a pain in the ass. > >> Have you read anything on the battery life? > > > > much more than you have. > > I'm done with you. translated: you're full of shit. that was clear all along.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-03-14 14:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <140320151425258760%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #71019 |
In article <me0rp6$h1i$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > >> And you asked what to I suggest? Make a friggin' watch that doesn't > >> need to charge every 18 hours. > > > > how do you plan on doing that, while keeping the watch small enough to > > not look stupid but can do everything that the apple watch or other > > smart watches (which have similar battery life) do? > > > > be specific. > > That's an incredibly ridiculous statement to make. > > What makes you think * I * need to have a plan to do that? It isn't * > MY * product. > > When I decide to make such a product, rest assured, you'll be the FIRST > person I'll tell. > > How do YOU plan on fixing it? There's nothing that needs fixing.
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 06:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <me3n2r$oqg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71060 |
On 2015-03-14 21:25:25 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said: > In article <me0rp6$h1i$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> And you asked what to I suggest? Make a friggin' watch that doesn't >>>> need to charge every 18 hours. >>> >>> how do you plan on doing that, while keeping the watch small enough to >>> not look stupid but can do everything that the apple watch or other >>> smart watches (which have similar battery life) do? >>> >>> be specific. >> >> That's an incredibly ridiculous statement to make. >> >> What makes you think * I * need to have a plan to do that? It isn't * >> MY * product. >> >> When I decide to make such a product, rest assured, you'll be the FIRST >> person I'll tell. >> >> How do YOU plan on fixing it? > > There's nothing that needs fixing. That's kind of what I thought... but giving a negative opinion on the new product apparently must mean that you hate it, and that it needs to be fixed. All I said was that I'd hoped they'd done something about the short battery life issue. I didn't realize that made me an apostate. -- "The only difference between death and taxes is that death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets." - Will Rogers
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 09:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <7ZmdnSMQI7pwG5jInZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71093 |
On 2015-03-15 06:32, FPP wrote: > All I said was that I'd hoped they'd done something about the short > battery life issue. Given the functionality and size of the widget, that it would need only one charge per day in typical use is already quite the achievement. If Apple have made a mistake here it is in calling it a Watch. So people with little imagination believe it should run on a tiny watch battery for 5 years while providing all the functionality that it will provide. Really. It's tiny. Really. It has an ARM processor. Really. It has memory. Really. It has backlighting. Really. It has a display. Really. It has sensors. Really. It has communications. Really. It's going to suck the battery dry. Really. It's going to need to be charged daily. Really. It's going to be fine. Really.
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 07:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <me45t1$f0s$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71100 |
On 3/15/15 PDT 6:19 AM, Alan Browne wrote: > On 2015-03-15 06:32, FPP wrote: > >> All I said was that I'd hoped they'd done something about the short >> battery life issue. > > Given the functionality and size of the widget, that it would need only > one charge per day in typical use is already quite the achievement. > > If Apple have made a mistake here it is in calling it a Watch. So > people with little imagination believe it should run on a tiny watch > battery for 5 years while providing all the functionality that it will > provide. > > Really. It's tiny. > > Really. It has an ARM processor. > > Really. It has memory. > > Really. It has backlighting. > > Really. It has a display. > > Really. It has sensors. > > Really. It has communications. > > Really. It's going to suck the battery dry. > > Really. It's going to need to be charged daily. > > Really. It's going to be fine. > > Really. > Are you really getting one?
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-15 10:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <e_qdnRFThpAfAJjInZ2dnUU7-YednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71103 |
On 2015-03-15 10:45, John McWilliams wrote: > On 3/15/15 PDT 6:19 AM, Alan Browne wrote: >> On 2015-03-15 06:32, FPP wrote: >> >>> All I said was that I'd hoped they'd done something about the short >>> battery life issue. >> >> Given the functionality and size of the widget, that it would need only >> one charge per day in typical use is already quite the achievement. >> >> If Apple have made a mistake here it is in calling it a Watch. So >> people with little imagination believe it should run on a tiny watch >> battery for 5 years while providing all the functionality that it will >> provide. >> >> Really. It's tiny. >> >> Really. It has an ARM processor. >> >> Really. It has memory. >> >> Really. It has backlighting. >> >> Really. It has a display. >> >> Really. It has sensors. >> >> Really. It has communications. >> >> Really. It's going to suck the battery dry. >> >> Really. It's going to need to be charged daily. >> >> Really. It's going to be fine. >> >> Really. >> > Are you really getting one? I'd really like to. More as a really neat toy, but it could be really practical for some pursuits.
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-13 22:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <me0g05$dd3$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #71004 |
On 2015-03-14 04:10:24 +0000, FPP said: > On 2015-03-13 22:18:12 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said: > >> In article <mdvn7i$ho3$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I have a Seiko Kinetic that winds itself. I have another Seiko that >>> charges itself by ambient light sources. >> >> they don't use anywhere near as much power as a smartwatch does and a >> smartwatch doesn't have anything to wind anyway. >> >>> I can't understand why Apple, who usually are the innovators, didn't do >>> a better job on this. >> >> what do you suggest? >> >> you could strap a giant battery to your wrist and get a month's run >> time but not too many people will be happy with that. >> >>> If you forget to charge this every day, all you have is a paperweight... >> >> nope. you have a watch that drops into power saver mode and becomes >> *just* a watch for up to 3 days. >> >> people are already used to charging phones at night and most people >> take off their watch to sleep so it's not that big of a deal. > > It's big deal to me... and that means I'll never buy this product > because of it. > > And you asked what to I suggest? Make a friggin' watch that doesn't > need to charge every 18 hours. Quick: tell me who now makes watches that meet your requirement. Now: which of them can do what an Apple Watch can do? None, huh?
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-03-14 01:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5503c528$0$44518$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #71004 |
On 15-03-14 00:10, FPP wrote: >> people are already used to charging phones at night and most people >> take off their watch to sleep so it's not that big of a deal. > > It's big deal to me... and that means I'll never buy this product > because of it. What hasn't yet been truly defined is how this new iDevice will be used, and what "key" application will be developped. Battery autonomy requirements vary depending on activity. Is this to be worn only during black tie events ? Every day watch ? Only when doing certain activities ? I was recently made aware that garmin now makes watches. https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/c10002-p1.html Makes me wonder if the future will see one watch that does everything "average", or multiple watches that are excellent for each of their purposes. So you'd have one watch for black tie events, one for swimming/runninG/cycling and one for work, ordinary life. Activity-specific watches need less battery autonomy than a generic watch you wear all the time. Apple started with generic one-model-for-everything for iPhone and iPad, but has since diversified. With 5s and 5c, and now 6 and 6+, they now have multiple models per year instead of only recycling previous years products. I think the watch is definitely a hobby. One where the only way to know if it will pan out or not is to actually release it and see what happens to it. The problem is that nobody really knows how/if it will pan out. BTW, prior to the launch, media in Canada had speculated the watch would be usable to unlock your car's doors. This was not mentioned during keynote. Wondering if this was a "not yet ready" feature that couldn't be announced, or just wrong speculation. Having the watch work as your car dongle to unlock doors would make sense and be usefull (for those who have cars).
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-03-14 01:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <140320150122514275%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #71007 |
In article <5503c528$0$44518$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > BTW, prior to the launch, media in Canada had speculated the watch would > be usable to unlock your car's doors. This was not mentioned during > keynote. Wondering if this was a "not yet ready" feature that couldn't > be announced, or just wrong speculation. Having the watch work as your > car dongle to unlock doors would make sense and be usefull (for those > who have cars). it's entirely possible to make btle activated car locks.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-14 18:49 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <140320151849187844%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #71007 |
In article <5503c528$0$44518$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > > What hasn't yet been truly defined is how this new iDevice will be used, > and what "key" application will be developped. Battery autonomy > requirements vary depending on activity. > > Is this to be worn only during black tie events ? Every day watch ? Only > when doing certain activities ? Like the other devices, it depends on the person's own preference. Personally I don't have any use for an iPhone, iPod, or iPad, let alone an expensive Apple Watch even when it does get its own apps. Some people will buy one simply because it's a new toy, and they'll have no real idea why they bought or what to use it for. Some people will find it a very handy device with lots of uses. > I was recently made aware that garmin now makes watches. > https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/c10002-p1.html> Lots of companies make "smart watches" and "smart exercise bands" these days - Samsung, Motorola, LG, and Sony to name a few. They did even before the Apple Watch was announced, but just like the iPhone, the Apple Watch has(slightly) pushed the boundaries of what a "smart watch" can be used for. > BTW, prior to the launch, media in Canada had speculated the watch would > be usable to unlock your car's doors. This was not mentioned during > keynote. Wondering if this was a "not yet ready" feature that couldn't > be announced, or just wrong speculation. Having the watch work as your > car dongle to unlock doors would make sense and be usefull (for those > who have cars). Tim Cook reportedly said somewhere that the Apple Watch could be able to replace the smart key fob many new cars use these days instead of real keys, so just wearing the watch will enable you to open the doors, start the car, etc. There are reportedly some companies interested in that possibility (BMW I think was one and I wouldn't be surprised if Nissan is as well since they adore the silly things). Not only you car though. The Apple Watch could also be used to open your hotel room door, pass through airport check-in kiosks, open you house door, etc. Pretty much anything that can currently be done with a smartcard / swipe style system.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-03-14 08:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmg7r34.7n1.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #71007 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> was all, like: > BTW, prior to the launch, media in Canada had speculated the watch would > be usable to unlock your car's doors. This was not mentioned during > keynote. Wondering if this was a "not yet ready" feature that couldn't > be announced, or just wrong speculation. Having the watch work as your > car dongle to unlock doors would make sense and be usefull (for those > who have cars). Tim Cook said something about the Apple Watch being potentially a replacement for car keys sometime in the future. -- http://2blog.kreme.com You could save people. You could get there in the nick of time. And something could snap its fingers and say, no , it has to be that way. Let me tell you how it has to be. This is how the legend goes. --Soul Music
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-03-14 08:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmg7quq.7n1.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #71004 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like: > It's big deal to me... and that means I'll never buy this product > because of it. OK. > And you asked what to I suggest? Make a friggin' watch that doesn't > need to charge every 18 hours. Why do you care? Are you saying you'd buy one if it lasted 20 hour? 22.73 hours? Personally, I would rather have something that need daily charging than charging every 3-4 days because something that needs to be charged every few days seems to always be dying in the middle of a day because you aren't used to just charging it every day. Even my iPad, I have to try to remember to charge it every night, even though it doesn't need it, because otherwise sometime on the second or third day it will be at 12% But I don't think I am buying an Apple Watch. I'll stick with my Pebble for a while longer. Of course, things may change once the Apple Watch is out. -- http://2blog.kreme.com Granny Weatherwax didn't hold with looking at the future, but now she could feel the future looking at her. She didn't like its expression at all.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-03-14 07:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmg7q34.7n1.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #70981 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> was all, like: > people are already used to charging phones at night and most people > take off their watch to sleep so it's not that big of a deal. Most people take off their watches to sleep? -- http://2blog.kreme.com "I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a friend.... if you have one." - GB Shaw to Churchill "Cannot possibly attend first night, will attend second... if there is one." - Winston Churchill, in response.
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-14 07:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <me1hfo$l27$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71013 |
On 3/14/15 PDT 12:50 AM, Lewis wrote: > Okay, so one time? In band camp? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> was all, like: >> people are already used to charging phones at night and most people >> take off their watch to sleep so it's not that big of a deal. > > Most people take off their watches to sleep? I always did, as did the women I slept with. Size of sample still too small to make a statistical statement, but I think the statement may be correct. Perhaps there's a government or university study on same... :)
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