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Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks)

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  Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2013-11-06 20:51 -0800
    Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-11-06 23:17 -0800
      Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-11-07 08:30 -0500
        Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-11-07 07:25 -0800
          Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2013-11-07 10:54 -0800
            Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-11-07 14:07 -0500
              Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) notme <notme@notme.org> - 2013-11-07 11:13 -0800
                Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-11-07 14:35 -0500
                  Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2013-11-07 11:54 -0800
                Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-11-08 08:34 +1100
            Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-11-07 15:10 -0800
      Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-07 19:36 +0000
        Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2013-11-07 11:56 -0800
    Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-07 10:44 -0600
      Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-07 20:20 +0000
    Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-08 08:58 +1300
      Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2013-11-07 12:05 -0800
        Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-11-07 15:17 -0500
          Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-11-08 08:40 +1100
            Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-08 18:37 +1300
        Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-08 12:21 +1300
          Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-11-07 19:53 -0500
            Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-11-07 23:00 -0800
              Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-11-08 10:57 -0500
    Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2013-11-07 13:04 -0700
    Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-07 18:13 -0500
      Re: Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-08 05:05 +0000

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#51971 — Getting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks)

FromDaveC <invalid@invalid.net>
Date2013-11-06 20:51 -0800
SubjectGetting Safari to open PDF files in Preview, NOT Safari (under Mavericks)
Message-ID<0001HW.CEA05C4E0059A7E9B04B09BF@news.eternal-september.org>
In past OS X versions I've used a Terminal command to set my PDF viewer 
preference to Preview rather than Safari. This is the method for Mavericks, 
supposedly:

<http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/106660/how-make-safari-7-open-pdf-
files-in-preview-instead-of-opening-them-in-page>

The desired result is that after clicking on a link that is the URL to a PDF 
file, Preview launches and the PDF file displays in that application. 

For me this does not happen. Instead, a new web page opens in Safari and 
garbage fills the page.

Any idea how I can get a PDF file on the web to download and open in Preview

Thanks,
Dave

OS X 10.9 Mavericks
Mac mini (2011_5,3): 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB

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#51973

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2013-11-06 23:17 -0800
Message-ID<vilain-D6F79F.23175106112013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#51971
In article 
<0001HW.CEA05C4E0059A7E9B04B09BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

> In past OS X versions I've used a Terminal command to set my PDF viewer 
> preference to Preview rather than Safari. This is the method for Mavericks, 
> supposedly:
> 
> <http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/106660/how-make-safari-7-open-pdf-
> files-in-preview-instead-of-opening-them-in-page>
> 
> The desired result is that after clicking on a link that is the URL to a PDF 
> file, Preview launches and the PDF file displays in that application. 
> 
> For me this does not happen. Instead, a new web page opens in Safari and 
> garbage fills the page.
> 
> Any idea how I can get a PDF file on the web to download and open in Preview
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> 
> OS X 10.9 Mavericks
> Mac mini (2011_5,3): 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB

The standard way for quite some time was to select the PDF file in the 
Finder, then click Command-I to Get File Information.  In that dialog, 
there's a "Open With" drop down selector.  The default application for 
.PDF is displayed.  If you click on the default and let the selection 
drop down to Safari, it will open that file with Safari.  If you click 
on the Change All button, all files with the .pdf extension will be 
opened with Safari.

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#51977

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2013-11-07 08:30 -0500
Message-ID<barmar-EF68BD.08305107112013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#51973
In article <vilain-D6F79F.23175106112013@news.individual.net>,
 Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> In article 
> <0001HW.CEA05C4E0059A7E9B04B09BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:
> 
> > In past OS X versions I've used a Terminal command to set my PDF viewer 
> > preference to Preview rather than Safari. This is the method for Mavericks, 
> > supposedly:
> > 
> > <http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/106660/how-make-safari-7-open-pdf-
> > files-in-preview-instead-of-opening-them-in-page>
> > 
> > The desired result is that after clicking on a link that is the URL to a 
> > PDF 
> > file, Preview launches and the PDF file displays in that application. 
> > 
> > For me this does not happen. Instead, a new web page opens in Safari and 
> > garbage fills the page.
> > 
> > Any idea how I can get a PDF file on the web to download and open in 
> > Preview
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> > 
> > OS X 10.9 Mavericks
> > Mac mini (2011_5,3): 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
> 
> The standard way for quite some time was to select the PDF file in the 
> Finder, then click Command-I to Get File Information.  In that dialog, 
> there's a "Open With" drop down selector.  The default application for 
> .PDF is displayed.  If you click on the default and let the selection 
> drop down to Safari, it will open that file with Safari.  If you click 
> on the Change All button, all files with the .pdf extension will be 
> opened with Safari.

That setting is for double-clicking on files that have already been 
downloaded. The question was about how to open PDF web pages this way.

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#51983

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2013-11-07 07:25 -0800
Message-ID<vilain-0720E4.07253507112013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#51977
In article <barmar-EF68BD.08305107112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <vilain-D6F79F.23175106112013@news.individual.net>,
>  Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> 
> > In article 
> > <0001HW.CEA05C4E0059A7E9B04B09BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >  DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > In past OS X versions I've used a Terminal command to set my PDF viewer 
> > > preference to Preview rather than Safari. This is the method for 
> > > Mavericks, 
> > > supposedly:
> > > 
> > > <http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/106660/how-make-safari-7-open-pd
> > > f-
> > > files-in-preview-instead-of-opening-them-in-page>
> > > 
> > > The desired result is that after clicking on a link that is the URL to a 
> > > PDF 
> > > file, Preview launches and the PDF file displays in that application. 
> > > 
> > > For me this does not happen. Instead, a new web page opens in Safari and 
> > > garbage fills the page.
> > > 
> > > Any idea how I can get a PDF file on the web to download and open in 
> > > Preview
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dave
> > > 
> > > OS X 10.9 Mavericks
> > > Mac mini (2011_5,3): 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
> > 
> > The standard way for quite some time was to select the PDF file in the 
> > Finder, then click Command-I to Get File Information.  In that dialog, 
> > there's a "Open With" drop down selector.  The default application for 
> > .PDF is displayed.  If you click on the default and let the selection 
> > drop down to Safari, it will open that file with Safari.  If you click 
> > on the Change All button, all files with the .pdf extension will be 
> > opened with Safari.
> 
> That setting is for double-clicking on files that have already been 
> downloaded. The question was about how to open PDF web pages this way.

Inside of Safari or any other web-browser, I've used a separate utility 
that sets the "helpers" database.  I've used it since 10.2 and it still 
works.

https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14618/rcdefaultapp

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#51999

FromDaveC <invalid@invalid.net>
Date2013-11-07 10:54 -0800
Message-ID<0001HW.CEA122010087FDA3B04B09BF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#51983
> Inside of Safari or any other web-browser, I've used a separate utility 
> that sets the "helpers" database.  I've used it since 10.2 and it still 
> works.
> 
> https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14618/rcdefaultapp

Thanks for that possibility Michael. I installed it. 

But my experience is unchanged. When I click on a link that is a PDF file it 
opens in a browser window.

I've configured RCD as best I can figure it out. Seems that for PDF it's 
already pretty well set-up. Under "Extensions" I did check the box "Override 
file creator" for PDF. 

This is an example of what I want to open in Preview:

<www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8880.pdf>

Nothing fancy about the file...

Ideas?

Thanks!

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#52000

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2013-11-07 14:07 -0500
Message-ID<barmar-9CE4BE.14070807112013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#51999
In article 
<0001HW.CEA122010087FDA3B04B09BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

> > Inside of Safari or any other web-browser, I've used a separate utility 
> > that sets the "helpers" database.  I've used it since 10.2 and it still 
> > works.
> > 
> > https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14618/rcdefaultapp
> 
> Thanks for that possibility Michael. I installed it. 
> 
> But my experience is unchanged. When I click on a link that is a PDF file it 
> opens in a browser window.
> 
> I've configured RCD as best I can figure it out. Seems that for PDF it's 
> already pretty well set-up. Under "Extensions" I did check the box "Override 
> file creator" for PDF. 
> 
> This is an example of what I want to open in Preview:
> 
> <www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8880.pdf>
> 
> Nothing fancy about the file...
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Thanks!

The main issue is that you have to convince Safari that it should 
download the file instead of just linking to it. Once it downloads, the 
preference from Get Info or RCDefaultApp will take effect.

You can force a download with Option-click.

-- 
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Arlington, MA
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#52002

Fromnotme <notme@notme.org>
Date2013-11-07 11:13 -0800
Message-ID<0001HW.CEA12653008900D2B01029BF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#52000
> The main issue is that you have to convince Safari that it should 
> download the file instead of just linking to it. Once it downloads, the 
> preference from Get Info or RCDefaultApp will take effect.
> 
> You can force a download with Option-click.

Which makes it a 2-step process. 

In Snow Leopard I could Cmd-Click on a link and it would 1) download the PDF 
and 2) open it in Preview in 1 step. 

I'm looking to duplicate that process in Mavericks.

Thanks.

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#52005

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2013-11-07 14:35 -0500
Message-ID<barmar-ADA016.14355707112013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#52002
In article 
<0001HW.CEA12653008900D2B01029BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 notme <notme@notme.org> wrote:

> > The main issue is that you have to convince Safari that it should 
> > download the file instead of just linking to it. Once it downloads, the 
> > preference from Get Info or RCDefaultApp will take effect.
> > 
> > You can force a download with Option-click.
> 
> Which makes it a 2-step process. 

Have they removed the "Open safe documents after downloading" option 
from Preferences->General?
> 
> In Snow Leopard I could Cmd-Click on a link and it would 1) download the PDF 
> and 2) open it in Preview in 1 step. 

Cmd-Click is "Open link in new window", isn't it?

Whether it does #2 is controlled by the above preference.

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Arlington, MA
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#52011

FromDaveC <invalid@invalid.net>
Date2013-11-07 11:54 -0800
Message-ID<0001HW.CEA1300E008B4892B01029BF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#52005
> Have they removed the "Open safe documents after downloading" option 
> from Preferences->General?

It's there in Mav. But it lies. No opening after downloading. Still opens in 
Safari.

>> In Snow Leopard I could Cmd-Click on a link and it would 1) download the 
>> PDF and 2) open it in Preview in 1 step. 

> Cmd-Click is "Open link in new window", isn't it?

Right you are. But click the link or Cmd-click, both will open the PDF in a 
Safari window.
 
> Whether it does #2 is controlled by the above preference.

Supposedly. But it doesn't. Hence my questions here. 

Thanks.

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#52027

Fromdorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au>
Date2013-11-08 08:34 +1100
Message-ID<dorayme-6C31B7.08344408112013@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#52002
In article 
<0001HW.CEA12653008900D2B01029BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 notme <notme@notme.org> wrote:

> > The main issue is that you have to convince Safari that it should 
> > download the file instead of just linking to it. Once it downloads, the 
> > preference from Get Info or RCDefaultApp will take effect.
> > 
> > You can force a download with Option-click.
> 
> Which makes it a 2-step process. 

Which is not so bad surely, it is not as if there is any time 
consuming double downloading. But, no, I know, it is not exactly what 
you want. Another 2-step process, I might as well mention, is to let 
it open in Safari and right or control click and your contextual menu 
might say, as does mine, Open in Preview. Another plugin I have, 
Schubert's, has a button on it to give you an option to open in 
Preview (or whatever you want).

-- 
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#52037

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2013-11-07 15:10 -0800
Message-ID<vilain-61DF04.15105907112013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#51999
In article 
<0001HW.CEA122010087FDA3B04B09BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

> > Inside of Safari or any other web-browser, I've used a separate utility 
> > that sets the "helpers" database.  I've used it since 10.2 and it still 
> > works.
> > 
> > https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14618/rcdefaultapp
> 
> Thanks for that possibility Michael. I installed it. 
> 
> But my experience is unchanged. When I click on a link that is a PDF file it 
> opens in a browser window.
> 
> I've configured RCD as best I can figure it out. Seems that for PDF it's 
> already pretty well set-up. Under "Extensions" I did check the box "Override 
> file creator" for PDF. 
> 
> This is an example of what I want to open in Preview:
> 
> <www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8880.pdf>
> 
> Nothing fancy about the file...
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Thanks!

In order to view a PDF file from Safari, the server must send the proper 
headers.  When I used curl to download the file, I saw a valid MIME type.

I had to be sure to remove the Adobe PDF plugins from /Library/Internet 
Plugins/{AdobePDFViewer,AdobePDFViewerNPAPI}.plugin

Then Safari correctly displayed the file.  

The RCDefaultApp pref sets the download behavior for various MIME types 
and extensions.  It won't override the behavior of entering a URL with a 
PDF file into the URL bar and having Safari or any other browser issue a 
"GET" to fetch the file.  AFAIK, that's how browsers work and you can't, 
short of using a script or some other chicanery, change that behavior. 

$ curl -v http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8880.pdf -o x.pdf
* About to connect() to www.irs.gov port 80 (#0)
*   Trying 23.72.181.73...
* Adding handle: conn: 0x7fec08807200
* Adding handle: send: 0
* Adding handle: recv: 0
* Curl_addHandleToPipeline: length: 1
* - Conn 0 (0x7fec08807200) send_pipe: 1, recv_pipe: 0
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  
Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  
Speed
  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     
0* Connected to www.irs.gov (23.72.181.73) port 80 (#0)
> GET /pub/irs-pdf/f8880.pdf HTTP/1.1
> User-Agent: curl/7.32.0
> Host: www.irs.gov
> Accept: */*
> 
< HTTP/1.1 200 OK
< Last-Modified: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 01:55:03 GMT
< ETag: "306bb-16828-4e86d68224bc0"
< Accept-Ranges: bytes
< Content-Length: 92200
< Content-Type: application/pdf
< Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 22:59:10 GMT
< Connection: keep-alive
< 
{ [data not shown]
100 92200  100 92200    0     0   292k      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--  
687k
* Connection #0 to host www.irs.gov left intact

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#52006

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-11-07 19:36 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl7nqt9.1lue.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#51973
In message <vilain-D6F79F.23175106112013@news.individual.net> 
  Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article 
> <0001HW.CEA05C4E0059A7E9B04B09BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

>> In past OS X versions I've used a Terminal command to set my PDF viewer 
>> preference to Preview rather than Safari. This is the method for Mavericks, 
>> supposedly:
>> 
>> <http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/106660/how-make-safari-7-open-pdf-files-in-preview-instead-of-opening-them-in-page>

That is *not* for Mavericks. that worked in 10.6 (and maybe 10.5?) but
it doesn't work in 10.9.

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#52012

FromDaveC <invalid@invalid.net>
Date2013-11-07 11:56 -0800
Message-ID<0001HW.CEA13050008B5839B01029BF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#52006
> 
<http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/106660/how-make-safari-7-open-pdf-
fi
> les-in-preview-instead-of-opening-them-in-page>
> 
> That is *not* for Mavericks. that worked in 10.6 (and maybe 10.5?) but
> it doesn't work in 10.9.

OK, thanks. 

On to other possibilities.

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#51989

FromDoc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com>
Date2013-11-07 10:44 -0600
Message-ID<droleary-A534D7.10445207112013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#51971
In article 
<0001HW.CEA05C4E0059A7E9B04B09BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

> The desired result is that after clicking on a link that is the URL to a PDF 
> file, Preview launches and the PDF file displays in that application. 
> 
> For me this does not happen. Instead, a new web page opens in Safari and 
> garbage fills the page.

Uh, perhaps that "garbage" *is* the PDF.  Which is to say, the server 
might be more at fault than your Mac.  How about giving a URL so that we 
have some chance of seeing what you're seeing?

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#52021

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-11-07 20:20 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl7ntg8.1lue.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#51989
In message <droleary-A534D7.10445207112013@news.eternal-september.org> 
  Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> wrote:
> In article 
> <0001HW.CEA05C4E0059A7E9B04B09BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

>> The desired result is that after clicking on a link that is the URL to a PDF 
>> file, Preview launches and the PDF file displays in that application. 
>> 
>> For me this does not happen. Instead, a new web page opens in Safari and 
>> garbage fills the page.

> Uh, perhaps that "garbage" *is* the PDF.  Which is to say, the server 
> might be more at fault than your Mac.

No, it's the combination of Safari 7 and the old defaults write preference.

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#52014

Fromdempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Date2013-11-08 08:58 +1300
Message-ID<1lc0cqj.16oprut1vudyugN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>
In reply to#51971
DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

> In past OS X versions I've used a Terminal command to set my PDF viewer
> preference to Preview rather than Safari. This is the method for Mavericks,
> supposedly:
> 
> <http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/106660/how-make-safari-7-open-pdf-
> files-in-preview-instead-of-opening-them-in-page>
> 
> The desired result is that after clicking on a link that is the URL to a PDF
> file, Preview launches and the PDF file displays in that application. 
> 
> For me this does not happen. Instead, a new web page opens in Safari and
> garbage fills the page.

That article says the method which _previously_ worked (defaults write
com.apple.Safari WebKitOmitPDFSupport -bool YES) does not work any more
with Safari 7. Incidentally, the same applies to Safari 6.1.

With that setting, earlier versions of Safari would download a PDF with
a simple click on a link, rather than displaying the PDF in Safari. (You
also had to get rid of the Adobe PDF plugin, if you had installed Adobe
Reader.)

I already had that setting enabled, and had the same problem with Safari
6.1 and 7. Until a better solution presents itself, I've turned off that
setting with:

defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitOmitPDFSupport -bool NO

This restores the standard behaviour of Safari, and PDFs are now
displaying in Safari (rather than seeing a page full of the raw data of
the PDF in text form). From there, I can save them.

Alternatively, I can secondary click on the link and choose Download
Linked File, but this is a nuisance as some web sites don't make it
clear that the link you are about to click on is a PDF rather than
another web page.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#52018

FromDaveC <invalid@invalid.net>
Date2013-11-07 12:05 -0800
Message-ID<0001HW.CEA13280008BDB48B01029BF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#52014
> Alternatively, I can secondary click on the link and choose Download
> Linked File, but this is a nuisance as some web sites don't make it
> clear that the link you are about to click on is a PDF rather than
> another web page.

So there is currently no known way to automatically download & open PDF files 
in Preview with 1 click?

Thanks,
Dave

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#52020

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2013-11-07 15:17 -0500
Message-ID<barmar-964ED1.15170207112013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#52018
In article 
<0001HW.CEA13280008BDB48B01029BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

> > Alternatively, I can secondary click on the link and choose Download
> > Linked File, but this is a nuisance as some web sites don't make it
> > clear that the link you are about to click on is a PDF rather than
> > another web page.
> 
> So there is currently no known way to automatically download & open PDF files 
> in Preview with 1 click?

I think the issue is whether Safari considers PDF files to be "safe".

I use Chrome, not Safari. Sometimes it downloads a PDF and opens it 
immediately. Other times it downloads the PDF and then displays a 
warning at the bottom that the file may be dangerous, do you want to 
keep it?

So it seems like there are different kinds of PDF files, and some of the 
contents may render them "unsafe". When they're not safe, you have to 
open them manually.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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#52028

Fromdorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au>
Date2013-11-08 08:40 +1100
Message-ID<dorayme-4203B8.08400008112013@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#52020
In article <barmar-964ED1.15170207112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> it seems like there are different kinds of PDF files, and some of the 
> contents may render them "unsafe". When they're not safe, you have to 
> open them manually.

Interestingly, there are *some* PDFs that will happily open in iCab in 
Schubert's PDF plugin but will give an error when the Open in External 
Viewer button (in that plugin) is pressed. I don't think in this case 
it is about safety, but I don't know this. On Snow Leopard.

-- 
dorayme

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#52054

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2013-11-08 18:37 +1300
Message-ID<081120131837036313%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#52028
In article <dorayme-4203B8.08400008112013@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
<dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> In article <barmar-964ED1.15170207112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > it seems like there are different kinds of PDF files, and some of the 
> > contents may render them "unsafe". When they're not safe, you have to 
> > open them manually.
> 
> Interestingly, there are *some* PDFs that will happily open in iCab in 
> Schubert's PDF plugin but will give an error when the Open in External 
> Viewer button (in that plugin) is pressed. I don't think in this case 
> it is about safety, but I don't know this. On Snow Leopard.

The PDF standard comes in different versions, so it depends on what
version the reader application can understand. It also depends on how
close to the standards the application making the PDF was.

Some PDF documents open fine on my Mac OS X 10.2 PowerMac, some throw
up an error saying "some things may not display properly" but still
show up on-screen, and others refuse to open at all. Some will not work
in Preview, but work fine in full Acrobat. If I copy them across to the
Mac OS X 10.5 MacBook, then most of them open fine on that, but some
still cause errors.

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