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  OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-09-30 19:46 -0500
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-09-30 17:49 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-01 19:08 +0000
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 15:43 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-01 16:31 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:55 -0500
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:51 -0700
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 10:22 -0500
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 08:48 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 11:23 -0500
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 11:38 -0500
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-07 09:54 -0500
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-07 08:31 -0700
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 18:38 +0100
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-06 09:34 +1300
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-06 09:24 -0700
                        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 09:21 +1300
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-06 16:51 -0400
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-06 15:34 -0700
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 18:56 +1300
                        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-07 09:55 +1300
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 19:03 +1300
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-07 09:47 -0500
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-08 09:26 +1300
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-06 09:33 -0500
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-06 08:35 -0700
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-06 16:53 +0100
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 10:59 -0700
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 16:02 -0400
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 16:51 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-01 16:25 -0700
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2013-09-30 20:42 -0500
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-09-30 23:00 -0400
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-01 09:29 -0500
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 09:16 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 11:24 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-01 14:30 -0400
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 11:37 -0700
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-01 19:17 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2013-10-01 19:57 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 15:46 -0700
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-02 10:21 +0000
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-01 21:38 -0400
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:54 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-04 09:08 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:54 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:51 -0500
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-03 08:16 -0700
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-03 15:54 -0400
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-03 20:03 -0700
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-04 18:11 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 12:12 +0000
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 14:34 +0100
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 16:12 +0000
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 17:48 +0100
                        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 19:44 +0000
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 16:03 -0400
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:57 +1200
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 18:01 -0400
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 11:21 +1200
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-04 19:24 -0700
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 22:26 +0100
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 11:19 +1200
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 23:33 +0000
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 13:41 +1200
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 09:21 +0100
                                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-05 12:41 +0000
                                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 14:18 +0100
                                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-05 13:58 +0000
                                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 07:35 -0700
                                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 15:17 -0400
                                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 10:07 +1300
                                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-05 17:15 -0400
                                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 10:00 +1300
                                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 22:45 +0100
                                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 17:29 +1300
                                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-05 17:59 +0200
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-04 19:18 -0700
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-07 10:06 +1300
                        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:51 +1200
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 23:37 +0000
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:47 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-04 13:41 -0700
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 17:59 -0400
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 09:23 +0100
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 12:12 +0000
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:55 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-01 14:41 -0400
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-02 09:34 -0500
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-02 14:50 -0400
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> - 2013-10-02 15:19 -0400
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-02 14:47 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-02 15:19 -0700
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 10:02 -0500
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-03 16:07 +0100
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 10:00 -0500
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:50 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:55 -0500
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-02 09:44 +1200
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 10:55 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-01 19:14 +0000
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 13:52 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:56 -0500
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:53 -0500

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#49572

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <1lab95g.umo9rig7yx20N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> 
> > Instead they act as if only their beliefs are right, and everyone else
> > isn't entitled to live differently. There's no respect for people who
> > don't want to think or do the same things. They've lost sight of a
> > central pillar of democracy - that one must not only tolerate
> > difference, but respect it.
> 
> Unfortunately, you just described a whole lot of (most?) Americans...
> This country has lost its way.

Not all of them I'm happy to say. I know a bunch who are quite religious
and/or conservative. They still respect others and even if they never
articulated the concept above, they seem to just naturally get that you
live your own way, lead by example, and respect others who choose to
live differently, even if you disagree with them.

I guess at the heart of the matter, I wonder why many others - far too
many - don't seem to get that concept either actively or instinctively.
It seems a fairly fundamental pillar of the human condition. Simple
respect for one another.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#49614

In article <1lad78m.t03wi660dif4N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > In article <1lab95g.umo9rig7yx20N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> >  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> > >
> > > Instead they act as if only their beliefs are right, and everyone else
> > > isn't entitled to live differently. There's no respect for people who
> > > don't want to think or do the same things. They've lost sight of a
> > > central pillar of democracy - that one must not only tolerate
> > > difference, but respect it.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, you just described a whole lot of (most?) Americans...
> > This country has lost its way.
> 
> Not all of them I'm happy to say. I know a bunch who are quite religious
> ... They still respect others
<snip>

Religious people rarely respect others. In fact religous people are
often the worst bigots, self-rightous and self-important morons you'll
ever meet ... especially those idioits who go around knock on your door
trying to "convert" you or of course when they reach the fanatic level
like Osma Bin Liner.

Religion, greed, and envy are the three main causes of wars.

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#49621

On 10/7/13 1:03 AM, in article 071020131903503884%YourName@YourISP.com,
"Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <1lad78m.t03wi660dif4N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
> Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> In article <1lab95g.umo9rig7yx20N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>>>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Instead they act as if only their beliefs are right, and everyone else
>>>> isn't entitled to live differently. There's no respect for people who
>>>> don't want to think or do the same things. They've lost sight of a
>>>> central pillar of democracy - that one must not only tolerate
>>>> difference, but respect it.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, you just described a whole lot of (most?) Americans...
>>> This country has lost its way.
>> 
>> Not all of them I'm happy to say. I know a bunch who are quite religious
>> ... They still respect others
> <snip>
> 
> Religious people rarely respect others. In fact religous people are
> often the worst bigots, self-rightous and self-important morons you'll
> ever meet ... especially those idioits who go around knock on your door
> trying to "convert" you or of course when they reach the fanatic level
> like Osma Bin Liner.
> 
> Religion, greed, and envy are the three main causes of wars.

Don't forget the wemmen-folk!  ;-)

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#49639

In article <CE78339C.A23FF%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/7/13 1:03 AM, in article 071020131903503884%YourName@YourISP.com,
> "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > In article <1lad78m.t03wi660dif4N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
> > Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >>> In article <1lab95g.umo9rig7yx20N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> >>>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Instead they act as if only their beliefs are right, and everyone else
> >>>> isn't entitled to live differently. There's no respect for people who
> >>>> don't want to think or do the same things. They've lost sight of a
> >>>> central pillar of democracy - that one must not only tolerate
> >>>> difference, but respect it.
> >>> 
> >>> Unfortunately, you just described a whole lot of (most?) Americans...
> >>> This country has lost its way.
> >> 
> >> Not all of them I'm happy to say. I know a bunch who are quite religious
> >> ... They still respect others
> > <snip>
> > 
> > Religious people rarely respect others. In fact religous people are
> > often the worst bigots, self-rightous and self-important morons you'll
> > ever meet ... especially those idioits who go around knock on your door
> > trying to "convert" you or of course when they reach the fanatic level
> > like Osma Bin Liner.
> > 
> > Religion, greed, and envy are the three main causes of wars.
> 
> Don't forget the wemmen-folk!  ;-)

They fit under the greed and envy causes.

"Women can't fight in wars ... they might break a fingernail."  ;-)

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#49524

On 10/5/13 12:38 PM, in article
timstreater-248042.18385605102013@news.individual.net, "Tim Streater"
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <CE75A731.A228F%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> Please stop ignoring the obvious: The Democrats have had their way so MANY
>> times in the past because the Country Club Repubs did not want to LOOK bad
>> and be blamed for gridlock and caved. Well, there is NEW blood in the
>> conservative/libertarian part of the Party, that you and other Leftists
>> refer to as "Extreme Right-Wing Nazis", etc., that will not back down at the
>> whim.
> 
> Well of course you're overlooking the unparliamentary tactic used:
> trying to change the law by tacking a clause onto an unrelated Bill.
> This should not be permitted.

You are referring to something that has been SOP since the formation of
Congress and, even though I agree, it AIN'T gonna stop any time soon. It is
how the MAJORITY of Bills are passed, usually for 'pork'. Welcome to the
world of Politics.

BTW: You DID hear that Washington was invaded by brain-eating zombies? But -
no worries: they all starved to death...

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#49533

In article <CE76DEEC.A22F7%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Well of course you're overlooking the unparliamentary tactic used: 
> > trying to change the law by tacking a clause onto an unrelated Bill. 
> > This should not be permitted.
> 
> You are referring to something that has been SOP since the formation of 
> Congress and, even though I agree, it AIN'T gonna stop any time soon. It 
> is how the MAJORITY of Bills are passed, usually for 'pork'. Welcome to 
> the world of Politics.

Internal rules of the House of Representatives say that amendments to bills 
must be germane to the bill.  However,those same rules say that if no one 
objects to an amendment that is not germane to the bill, the amendment is 
allowed.

The Senate has no prohibition of nongermane amendments before cloture.

-- 
All usenet users are quirky, but some are more quirky than others.

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#49535

In article <CE76DEEC.A22F7%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 10/5/13 12:38 PM, in article
> timstreater-248042.18385605102013@news.individual.net, "Tim Streater"
> <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> > In article <CE75A731.A228F%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
> >  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> >> Please stop ignoring the obvious: The Democrats have had their way so MANY
> >> times in the past because the Country Club Repubs did not want to LOOK bad
> >> and be blamed for gridlock and caved. Well, there is NEW blood in the
> >> conservative/libertarian part of the Party, that you and other Leftists
> >> refer to as "Extreme Right-Wing Nazis", etc., that will not back down at 
> >> the whim.
> > 
> > Well of course you're overlooking the unparliamentary tactic used:
> > trying to change the law by tacking a clause onto an unrelated Bill.
> > This should not be permitted.
> 
> You are referring to something that has been SOP since the formation of
> Congress and, even though I agree, it AIN'T gonna stop any time soon. It is
> how the MAJORITY of Bills are passed, usually for 'pork'. Welcome to the
> world of Politics.

You mean, the world of US politics. Luckily, here, by and large it 
doesn't happen. And I'm well aware of how pork gets added in the US 
Congress. It's one of the major defects of the US governmental system 
and you are indeed stuck with it now.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#49451

In article <CE75A731.A228F%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I really believe that you are just being sarcastic when you blame the 
> Tea Party for Obama's direct orders because your logic could not be 
> possibly THAT flawed. You have to be joking!

I blame the Tea Party Republicans, specifically those in the House of 
Representatives, for there not being any money to pay for those services.  
Do you expect the government employees to work for nothing, and for the 
outside companies that provide product and services to do so without 
getting paid?

> <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/3/pruden-the-cheap-tricks-o
> f-t he-game/>

The Washington Times, like Fox News, is a propaganda machine for the far 
right; I don't trust much, if anything, they report.

> <http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/04/catholic-priests-in-military-face
> -arrest-for-celebrating-mass/>

In other words, civilian contractors have been told they can't be paid, so 
they can't work. Just like many other employees and contractors.  They are 
not military chaplains.  Military chaplains are commissioned officers in 
the active military, reserves, or National Guard.

> Please stop ignoring the obvious: The Democrats have had their way so 
> MANY times in the past because the Country Club Repubs did not want to 
> LOOK bad and be blamed for gridlock and caved. Well, there is NEW blood 
> in the conservative/libertarian part of the Party, that you and other 
> Leftists refer to as "Extreme Right-Wing Nazis", etc., that will not 
> back down at the whim. They have offered to pass legislation that would 
> open up certain services and what does your Party do? Harry Reid scoffs 
> about taking care of children with cancer. You must be SO proud!!!

Obama has finally learned that to the GOP, "What is mine is mine, and what 
is yours is negotiable."

> ³Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon 
> will knock over all the pieces, crap on the board and then strut around 
> like it won the game!²
> 
> ‹Vladimir Putin

You see no irony in you quoting a "former" Communist?

Negotiating with the Tea Party:

Tea Party: Can I burn down your house?
Obama: NO!
Tea Party: Can I just burn down the second floor?
Obama: NO!
Tea Party: The garage?
Obama: NO!
Tea Party: Then lets talk about what I can burn down....
Obama: NO!
Tea Party: YOU AREN'T COMPROMISING!

-- 
All usenet users are quirky, but some are more quirky than others.

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#49460

On 13-10-05 13:59, Michelle Steiner wrote:

> Negotiating with the Tea Party:

I am a bit out of the loop on this. Does the Tea Party still exist ?

I thought the Republican Party had nipped it before it had done too much
damage and sent Sarah palin back to Alaska where she can watch Russia
from her mountain facing Wasila balcony.

When people speak of the Tea Party now, do they simply refer to the more
right wing elements inside the republican party ?  Or is there still a
separate organisation seeking to change the Republican Party ?

Out of curiosity, if the Republican party decided to be more centrist
and kick out its right wing nuts, foregoing the bible thumping anti
abortionist gun lovers in exchange for gaining a lot of undecided and
soft democratic votes, would the republican party be better off ?

or would Sarah palin come back with a formal Tea Party (a 3rd option)
and split votes, reducing the Republican party's chances ?

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#49494

In article <52507063$0$12588$c3e8da3$69010069@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> > Negotiating with the Tea Party:
> 
> I am a bit out of the loop on this. Does the Tea Party still exist ?

It is not a formal political party; it is a movement that uses the name 
"Tea Party".  Members of the Tea Party had called themselves "teabaggers" 
until they discovered that that word has a sexual connotation.
<http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger>

> Out of curiosity, if the Republican party decided to be more centrist
> and kick out its right wing nuts, foregoing the bible thumping anti
> abortionist gun lovers in exchange for gaining a lot of undecided and
> soft democratic votes, would the republican party be better off ?

Definitely.  They might even get my vote again.

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#49254

In article <michelle-868B31.17491930092013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <CE6F858D.A1F81%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Linda is a blonde, a Democrat, and an Obama supporter, but that could 
> > all be a coincidence.
> 
> That's the GOP spin; she's actually a Tea Party member who supports Ted 
> Cruz and Paul Ryan.

A pox on both parties. Chicken for Dems and small for GOP.

-- 

Sam

Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.

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#49203

In article <CE6F858D.A1F81%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Linda Burnett, 26, a resident of San Diego

Biscuit Bullet
Urban Legend
-- 
Good judgment results from experience, and experience results from bad judgment.

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#49206

George Kerby:
> > Linda Burnett, 26, a resident of San Diego

Suze:
> Biscuit Bullet
> Urban Legend

Not a very good one at that.

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#49218

In article <CE6F858D.A1F81%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Linda Burnett, 26, a resident of San Diego, was visiting her in-laws
> and, while there, went to a nearby supermarket to pick up some
> groceries.
> 
> Later, her husband noticed her sitting in her car in the driveway
> with the windows rolled up and her eyes closed, with both hands behind
> the back of her head.
> 
> He became concerned and walked over to the car. He noticed that
> Linda's eyes were now open and she looked very strange. He asked her
> if she was okay, and Linda replied that she had been shot in the back
> of the head and had been holding her brains in for over an hour.
> 
> The husband called the paramedics, who broke into the car because
> the doors were locked and Linda refused to remove her hands from her
> head.
> 
> When they finally got in, they found that Linda had a wad of bread
> dough on the back of her head.
> 
> A Pillsbury biscuit canister had exploded from the heat, making a
> loud noise that sounded like a gunshot, and the wad of dough hit her
> in the back of her head.
> 
> When she reached back to find out what it was, she felt the dough
> and thought it was her brains. She initially passed out, but quickly
> recovered.
> 
> Linda is a blonde, a Democrat, and an Obama supporter, but that
> could all be a coincidence.
> 
> The defective biscuit canister was analyzed and the expiration date
> was from 2008, so it was determined to be Bush's fault.

It doesn't take much checking to find out that this is a hoax.  So the 
people spreading this are

a)  lying, and they know it, or

b)  too lazy or apathetic to check (they don't care whether it is true, 
only that it supports their political views).

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#49221

In article <lybanon-8ADE69.09294801102013@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>,
 Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > Linda is a blonde, a Democrat, and an Obama supporter, but that could 
> > all be a coincidence.
> > 
> > The defective biscuit canister was analyzed and the expiration date 
> > was from 2008, so it was determined to be Bush's fault.
> 
> It doesn't take much checking to find out that this is a hoax.  So the 
> people spreading this are
> 
> a)  lying, and they know it, or
> 
> b)  too lazy or apathetic to check (they don't care whether it is true, 
> only that it supports their political views).

I am sure that Kerby knows it is not real, and was merely trying to joke.

Kerby is not stupid.  He's a Republican; therefore, he's misguided, but 
he's not stupid.  ;)

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#49227

In article <michelle-9CB0C6.09164801102013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> He's a Republican; therefore, he's misguided

Anyone choosing either Democrat or Republican is misguided.

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#49228

In article <jollyroger-17D14F.11240001102013@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> > He's a Republican; therefore, he's misguided
> 
> Anyone choosing either Democrat or Republican is misguided.

anyone choosing anything else is living in a fantasy land.

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#49230

In article <011020131430105874%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-17D14F.11240001102013@news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > > He's a Republican; therefore, he's misguided
> > 
> > Anyone choosing either Democrat or Republican is misguided.
> 
> anyone choosing anything else is living in a fantasy land.

Personally, I'm going to vote for the Flying Spaghetti Monster and 
Invisible Pink Unicorn ticket.

-- 
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#49236

In message <michelle-534FCA.11375501102013@news.eternal-september.org> 
  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <011020131430105874%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>> In article <jollyroger-17D14F.11240001102013@news.individual.net>,
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > > He's a Republican; therefore, he's misguided
>> > 
>> > Anyone choosing either Democrat or Republican is misguided.
>> 
>> anyone choosing anything else is living in a fantasy land.

> Personally, I'm going to vote for the Flying Spaghetti Monster and 
> Invisible Pink Unicorn ticket.

I figure I'll just vote for Cthulhu and Hastur and get it over with.

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#49238

In article <slrnl4m7up.f3m.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
Lewis  <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>In message <michelle-534FCA.11375501102013@news.eternal-september.org> 
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> In article <011020131430105874%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> In article <jollyroger-17D14F.11240001102013@news.individual.net>,
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > > He's a Republican; therefore, he's misguided
>>> > 
>>> > Anyone choosing either Democrat or Republican is misguided.
>>> 
>>> anyone choosing anything else is living in a fantasy land.
>
>> Personally, I'm going to vote for the Flying Spaghetti Monster and 
>> Invisible Pink Unicorn ticket.
>
>I figure I'll just vote for Cthulhu and Hastur and get it over with.
>

I'm tired of choosing the lesser evil as well...

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