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Dock won't pop up

Started byAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
First post2014-04-05 18:07 -0400
Last post2014-04-19 10:12 -0400
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  Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-05 18:07 -0400
    Re: Dock won't pop up Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 07:37 -0400
      Re: Dock won't pop up dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-07 10:36 +1000
        Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-07 16:47 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-04-07 15:44 -0700
            Re: Dock won't pop up dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-08 10:37 +1000
              Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-08 17:09 -0400
                Re: Dock won't pop up John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-04-12 18:57 -0700
                  Re: Dock won't pop up dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-13 13:07 +1000
                    Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-13 09:31 -0400
                  Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-13 09:31 -0400
                    Re: Dock won't pop up android <here@there.was> - 2014-04-13 16:58 +0200
                      Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-13 12:08 -0400
                        Re: Dock won't pop up android <here@there.was> - 2014-04-13 18:25 +0200
                          Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-13 12:28 -0400
                            Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-16 13:29 +0000
                              Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-16 17:10 -0400
                                Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-16 17:34 -0400
                                  Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-16 18:20 -0400
                                  Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-16 23:59 +0000
                                    Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-17 15:02 -0400
                                Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-16 17:37 -0400
                                  Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-16 18:20 -0400
                                  Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-17 00:01 +0000
                        Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-13 16:00 -0400
                        Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-16 13:28 +0000
                          Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-16 17:02 -0400
                      Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-16 13:26 +0000
            Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-08 17:08 -0400
              Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-09 14:46 +0000
                Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-09 20:59 -0400
    Re: Dock won't pop up Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> - 2014-04-06 10:10 -0400
      Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-06 11:07 -0400
        Re: Dock won't pop up billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-06 15:23 +0000
          Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-06 11:46 -0400
            Re: Dock won't pop up billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-07 01:54 +0000
              Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-07 16:47 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-07 09:01 +1200
        Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-06 16:40 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2014-04-06 17:24 -0500
      Re: Dock won't pop up Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-06 17:20 +0000
        Re: Dock won't pop up Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-06 20:16 +0200
          Re: Dock won't pop up doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2014-04-06 20:29 +0000
          Re: Dock won't pop up billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-07 01:57 +0000
            Re: Dock won't pop up Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-07 16:05 +1200
              Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-07 16:50 -0400
            Re: Dock won't pop up russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2014-04-09 02:46 +0000
        Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-06 16:42 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 18:28 -0400
        Re: Dock won't pop up Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> - 2014-04-06 19:23 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-06 19:38 -0400
            Re: Dock won't pop up Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-07 20:55 +0200
              Re: Dock won't pop up Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-08 08:47 +1200
          Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-06 20:36 -0400
          Re: Dock won't pop up Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> - 2014-04-07 10:18 -0400
            Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-07 16:54 -0400
              Re: Dock won't pop up JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-07 17:17 -0400
                Re: Dock won't pop up Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 18:12 -0400
                  Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-07 18:38 -0400
                    Re: Dock won't pop up Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 19:10 -0400
                      Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-08 17:09 -0400
              Re: Dock won't pop up Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> - 2014-04-07 19:45 -0400
                Re: Dock won't pop up Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-04-08 08:03 -0500
                  Re: Dock won't pop up Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-09 09:03 +1200
                    Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-08 17:14 -0400
                Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-08 17:12 -0400
                  Re: Dock won't pop up Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> - 2014-04-09 10:18 -0400
                    Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-09 20:58 -0400
                      Re: Dock won't pop up Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-10 01:54 +0000
      Re: Dock won't pop up Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 13:34 +1000
        Re: Dock won't pop up Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-19 16:29 +1200
          Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-19 09:42 -0400
            Re: Dock won't pop up Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-19 06:50 -0700
              Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-19 09:59 -0400
                Re: Dock won't pop up Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-19 07:51 -0700
                  Re: Dock won't pop up Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-19 11:00 -0400
              Re: Dock won't pop up Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-19 10:12 -0400

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#58361

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-04-06 17:20 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlk336t.t52.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#58356
In message <lhrn8u$fas$1@news.albasani.net> 
  Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> wrote:
> On 4/5/14, 6:07 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>
>> I haven't seen this happen in a very long time - but my Dock froze
>> (would not pop up).
>>
>> After a bit of bumping around I CMD-Tabbed to Finder, did "About Finder"
>> and then it worked.  (Nothing else did).
>>

> A cold reboot can clear out a jam-up like that. Dumping the PRAM and 
> resetting the system management controller could straighten you out too.

Sigh.

Dumping the PRAM is about as effective as lighting a candle or waving a
dead rat over the keyboard. Resetting the SMC is even LESS effective.


-- 
'We'll all be killed.' 'Think of it as the lesser of two evils.' 'What's
the other one?' Vimes drew his sword.  'Me.' --Jingo

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#58363

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2014-04-06 20:16 +0200
Message-ID<l9i81b-c712.ln1@news.chingola.ch>
In reply to#58361
On 2014-04-06, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <lhrn8u$fas$1@news.albasani.net> 
>   Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> wrote:
>> On 4/5/14, 6:07 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't seen this happen in a very long time - but my Dock froze
>>> (would not pop up).
>>>
>>> After a bit of bumping around I CMD-Tabbed to Finder, did "About Finder"
>>> and then it worked.  (Nothing else did).
>>>
>
>> A cold reboot can clear out a jam-up like that. Dumping the PRAM and 
>> resetting the system management controller could straighten you out too.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Dumping the PRAM is about as effective as lighting a candle or waving a
> dead rat over the keyboard. Resetting the SMC is even LESS effective.

Can we have SCSI back please?  Goats worked well and chickens would do at
a pinch (see sig).

-- 
Paul Sture

"SCSI is NOT magic. There are fundamental technical reasons why it is
necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then."
- John Woods -

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#58364

Fromdoctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
Date2014-04-06 20:29 +0000
Message-ID<lhsdg5$c3p$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>
In reply to#58363
In article <l9i81b-c712.ln1@news.chingola.ch>,
Paul Sture  <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
>On 2014-04-06, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <lhrn8u$fas$1@news.albasani.net> 
>>   Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> wrote:
>>> On 4/5/14, 6:07 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen this happen in a very long time - but my Dock froze
>>>> (would not pop up).
>>>>
>>>> After a bit of bumping around I CMD-Tabbed to Finder, did "About Finder"
>>>> and then it worked.  (Nothing else did).
>>>>
>>
>>> A cold reboot can clear out a jam-up like that. Dumping the PRAM and 
>>> resetting the system management controller could straighten you out too.
>>
>> Sigh.
>>
>> Dumping the PRAM is about as effective as lighting a candle or waving a
>> dead rat over the keyboard. Resetting the SMC is even LESS effective.
>
>Can we have SCSI back please?  Goats worked well and chickens would do at
>a pinch (see sig).
>
>-- 
>Paul Sture
>
>"SCSI is NOT magic. There are fundamental technical reasons why it is
>necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then."
>- John Woods -

You mean SAS!
-- 
Member - Liberal International	This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! 
http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k  Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
C'est temps pour le Quebec de dire non a la Parti Qorruption!

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#58377

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-04-07 01:57 +0000
Message-ID<lht0mq$51u$3@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#58363
Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> quotes John Woods:

> "SCSI is NOT magic. There are fundamental technical reasons why it is
> necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then."

Having friend who owns a SCSI bus analyzer works well, too.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#58378

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-04-07 16:05 +1200
Message-ID<070420141605404256%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#58377
In article <lht0mq$51u$3@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
> Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> quotes John Woods:
> >
> > "SCSI is NOT magic. There are fundamental technical reasons why it is
> > necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then."
> 
> Having friend who owns a SCSI bus analyzer works well, too.

In the MANY years of using SCIS devices (including still having a SCSI
CD writer and broken scanner connected to this beige PowerMac G3), I
have never had any problems.

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#58384

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-07 16:50 -0400
Message-ID<SeSdnRja1LQDkt7OnZ2dnUVZ_sgAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#58378
On 2014.04.07, 00:05 , Your Name wrote:
> In article <lht0mq$51u$3@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
>> Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> quotes John Woods:
>>>
>>> "SCSI is NOT magic. There are fundamental technical reasons why it is
>>> necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then."
>>
>> Having friend who owns a SCSI bus analyzer works well, too.
>
> In the MANY years of using SCIS devices (including still having a SCSI
> CD writer and broken scanner connected to this beige PowerMac G3), I
> have never had any problems.

Agreed.  At least when I used Windows predominantly (and very early SCSI 
attached storage).  Once it worked ... it worked ... with no issues.


-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58415

Fromrussotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto)
Date2014-04-09 02:46 +0000
Message-ID<li2c9v$h77$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58377
In article <lht0mq$51u$3@reader2.panix.com>,  <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
>Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> quotes John Woods:
>
>> "SCSI is NOT magic. There are fundamental technical reasons why it is
>> necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then."
>
>Having friend who owns a SCSI bus analyzer works well, too.

Provided you keep the goat blood reservoir at least half-full, and
replace the black candles every 13 uses.
-- 
The problem with socialism is there's always 
someone with less ability and more need.

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#58366

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-04-06 16:42 -0400
Message-ID<5341bc4b$0$2722$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58361
On 14-04-06 13:20, Lewis wrote:

> Dumping the PRAM is about as effective as lighting a candle or waving a
> dead rat over the keyboard. Resetting the SMC is even LESS effective.


How do you know that waving a dead rat over the keyboard is not
effective ? Have you done extensive research on this to test this theory
? :-) :-) :-) :-)

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#58371

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2014-04-06 18:28 -0400
Message-ID<5341d503$0$17128$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58366
In article <5341bc4b$0$2722$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 14-04-06 13:20, Lewis wrote:
> 
> > Dumping the PRAM is about as effective as lighting a candle or waving a
> > dead rat over the keyboard. Resetting the SMC is even LESS effective.
> 
> 
> How do you know that waving a dead rat over the keyboard is not
> effective ? Have you done extensive research on this to test this theory
> ? :-) :-) :-) :-)

Rats are so eighties

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wave+a+dead+chicken
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#58372

FromDorian Grey <oscar@wild.net>
Date2014-04-06 19:23 -0400
Message-ID<lhsnl6$e6c$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#58361
On 4/6/14, 1:20 PM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <lhrn8u$fas$1@news.albasani.net>
>    Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> wrote:
>> On 4/5/14, 6:07 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't seen this happen in a very long time - but my Dock froze
>>> (would not pop up).
>>>
>>> After a bit of bumping around I CMD-Tabbed to Finder, did "About Finder"
>>> and then it worked.  (Nothing else did).
>>>
>
>> A cold reboot can clear out a jam-up like that. Dumping the PRAM and
>> resetting the system management controller could straighten you out too.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Dumping the PRAM is about as effective as lighting a candle or waving a
> dead rat over the keyboard. Resetting the SMC is even LESS effective.
>
>

Well hell, I don't know, I'm not a super tech weenie like some of the 
folks here are--  in their own minds, anyway.

I was just sharing a couple of generic quick and dirty fixes that the 
local Apple store Genius Bar guys often recommend as quick and easy 
first steps before getting involved in elaborate time consuming 
trouble-shooting routines or delving into programming issues far beyond 
the ken of 99% of the rest of us.

And by the way, you're right. Waving a dead rat over the keyboard is 
pretty much useless-- unless you simultaneously close your right eye, 
stick your tongue out, and scratch your butt with your left hand while 
you're doing it.

-- 
I was the Project Manager when BS was invented. I wanted to also be the 
Test Pilot, but that required a Certified Politician.

			—@KelsowFarlander

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#58373

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-04-06 19:38 -0400
Message-ID<5341e58a$0$9638$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58372
On 14-04-06 19:23, Dorian Grey wrote:

> And by the way, you're right. Waving a dead rat over the keyboard is 
> pretty much useless-- unless you simultaneously close your right eye, 
> stick your tongue out, and scratch your butt with your left hand while 
> you're doing it.


So,... that is what I was doing wrong all these years :-)

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#58380

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2014-04-07 20:55 +0200
Message-ID<bu8b1b-np41.ln1@news.chingola.ch>
In reply to#58373
On 2014-04-06, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-04-06 19:23, Dorian Grey wrote:
>
>> And by the way, you're right. Waving a dead rat over the keyboard is 
>> pretty much useless-- unless you simultaneously close your right eye, 
>> stick your tongue out, and scratch your butt with your left hand while 
>> you're doing it.
>
>
> So,... that is what I was doing wrong all these years :-)

Ah but are those instructions for right handed or left handed folks?

Ambidextrously yours,
Confused of Tunbridge Wells

-- 
Paul Sture

"In that case," said Napoleon, "let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy
is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him."

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#58383

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-04-08 08:47 +1200
Message-ID<080420140847381863%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#58380
In article <bu8b1b-np41.ln1@news.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture
<nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On 2014-04-06, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > On 14-04-06 19:23, Dorian Grey wrote:
> >
> >> And by the way, you're right. Waving a dead rat over the keyboard is 
> >> pretty much useless-- unless you simultaneously close your right eye, 
> >> stick your tongue out, and scratch your butt with your left hand while 
> >> you're doing it.
> >
> > So,... that is what I was doing wrong all these years :-)
> 
> Ah but are those instructions for right handed or left handed folks?
> 
> Ambidextrously yours,
> Confused of Tunbridge Wells

Those are the instructions for getting Windows to work for more than 20
seconds.  ;-)

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#58375

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-06 20:36 -0400
Message-ID<soSdncMr6c2dbtzOnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58372
On 2014.04.06, 19:23 , Dorian Grey wrote:

> I was just sharing a couple of generic quick and dirty fixes that the
> local Apple store Genius Bar guys often recommend as quick and easy
> first steps before getting involved in elaborate time consuming
> trouble-shooting routines...

I literally had one of those untrustable farts reading the above and now 
need to go change, have a shower and clean my chair.

If that's the advice the genius's are giving then it just further 
confirms the opinion I have of them since the last time I got "advice" 
from a pair of them!

Gotta go!  (Yes I "went" - but now it's cleanup time).

-- 
   Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
   people are not trained to perform.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#58379

FromDorian Grey <oscar@wild.net>
Date2014-04-07 10:18 -0400
Message-ID<lhuc2v$ike$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#58372
On 4/6/14, 7:23 PM, Dorian Grey wrote:
> On 4/6/14, 1:20 PM, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <lhrn8u$fas$1@news.albasani.net>
>>    Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> wrote:
>>> On 4/5/14, 6:07 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen this happen in a very long time - but my Dock froze
>>>> (would not pop up).
>>>>
>>>> After a bit of bumping around I CMD-Tabbed to Finder, did "About
>>>> Finder"
>>>> and then it worked.  (Nothing else did).
>>>>
>>
>>> A cold reboot can clear out a jam-up like that. Dumping the PRAM and
>>> resetting the system management controller could straighten you out too.
>>
>> Sigh.
>>
>> Dumping the PRAM is about as effective as lighting a candle or waving a
>> dead rat over the keyboard. Resetting the SMC is even LESS effective.
>>
>>
>
> Well hell, I don't know, I'm not a super tech weenie like some of the
> folks here are--  in their own minds, anyway.
>
> I was just sharing a couple of generic quick and dirty fixes that the
> local Apple store Genius Bar guys often recommend as quick and easy
> first steps before getting involved in elaborate time consuming
> trouble-shooting routines or delving into programming issues far beyond
> the ken of 99% of the rest of us.
>
> And by the way, you're right. Waving a dead rat over the keyboard is
> pretty much useless-- unless you simultaneously close your right eye,
> stick your tongue out, and scratch your butt with your left hand while
> you're doing it.
>

OK, so a few minutes ago, I notice this dark outline of a large 
rectangle about 12" x 7" on the desktop screen of my late 2012 21.5 
iMac. Looked like about the size and shape of the outline of a Finder or 
Pages/Numbers window. The wave image was continuous, the pointer could 
move inside the outline, and i could even drag icons inside it where 
they opened programs and pictures normally,

All apps were closed, left and right clicks on an assortment of View and 
other options from Finder menu bar and the desktop did nothing. Strange, eh?

I guess I could have opened a tech support trouble ticket or posted here 
for help. Instead, I fixed it by.......yup, you guessed it-- 
rebooting... Yet another successful application of Occam's Razor.

-- 
Teach someone to fish and they’ll eat for life. Give them somebody 
else’s fish--- and they’ll vote for you.

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#58385

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-07 16:54 -0400
Message-ID<8b-dnWQi-uIejd7OnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58379
On 2014.04.07, 10:18 , Dorian Grey wrote:
> On 4/6/14, 7:23 PM, Dorian Grey wrote:
>>>    Dorian Grey <oscar@wild.net> wrote:
>>>> On 4/5/14, 6:07 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't seen this happen in a very long time - but my Dock froze
>>>>> (would not pop up).
>>>>>
>>>>> After a bit of bumping around I CMD-Tabbed to Finder, did "About
>>>>> Finder"
>>>>> and then it worked.  (Nothing else did).
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> A cold reboot can clear out a jam-up like that. Dumping the PRAM and
>>>> resetting the system management controller could straig

> OK, so a few minutes ago, I notice this dark outline of a large
> rectangle about 12" x 7" on the desktop screen of my late 2012 21.5
> iMac. Looked like about the size and shape of the outline of a Finder or
> Pages/Numbers window. The wave image was continuous, the pointer could
> move inside the outline, and i could even drag icons inside it where
> they opened programs and pictures normally,
>
> All apps were closed, left and right clicks on an assortment of View and
> other options from Finder menu bar and the desktop did nothing. Strange,
> eh?
>
> I guess I could have opened a tech support trouble ticket or posted here
> for help. Instead, I fixed it by.......yup, you guessed it--
> rebooting... Yet another successful application of Occam's Razor.

That's not a successful application of anything - though it is at least 
not as crazy as the PRAM reset...

For your issue...
Open a Finder or Pages or Number window and close again (after moving it 
around on the screen; or

Finder re-start might have done it. (hold option and right click the 
finder in the dock - select relaunch).

Or going to the widgets page and back (or any other workspace - or 
starting a new workspace).

ie: try a few obvious things before a reboot.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58386

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-04-07 17:17 -0400
Message-ID<534315f0$0$46385$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58385
On 14-04-07 16:54, Alan Browne wrote:

> ie: try a few obvious things before a reboot.


IN fairness, there are times where a reboot is faster than putzing
around trying things in the blind.

Certain fixes are straighforward (such as killing dock and restarting
it). But others are more nebulous.

Once had my magic mouse refuse to left click. I focused on the mouse,
but it turns out that the computer needed a reboot, there was nothing
wrong with the mouse.

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#58387

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2014-04-07 18:12 -0400
Message-ID<534322ea$0$58616$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58386
In article <534315f0$0$46385$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> 
> IN fairness, there are times where a reboot is faster than putzing
> around trying things in the blind.

Depends. If I tell the Mac to restart, it will be at least 4 minutes or 
more before I'm back at my Finder screen. Putzing around, at least I can 
continue to download my spanking videos in the background.

On the other hand, my Arch Linux laptop reboots (to X) in about 40 
seconds. And ext4 journaling is so robust that it's actually faster and 
easier to reboot by pushing the power button. Oh oh, here comes Teh 
Appol Duhfense L33g.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#58388

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-04-07 18:38 -0400
Message-ID<GPCdnauoR_tGtd7OnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58387
On 2014.04.07, 18:12 , Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <534315f0$0$46385$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> IN fairness, there are times where a reboot is faster than putzing
>> around trying things in the blind.
>
> Depends. If I tell the Mac to restart, it will be at least 4 minutes or
> more before I'm back at my Finder screen. Putzing around, at least I can
> continue to download my spanking videos in the background.
>
> On the other hand, my Arch Linux laptop reboots (to X) in about 40
> seconds. And ext4 journaling is so robust that it's actually faster and
> easier to reboot by pushing the power button. Oh oh, here comes Teh
> Appol Duhfense L33g.

Nothing like a fast booting system that's otherwise useless.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58390

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2014-04-07 19:10 -0400
Message-ID<53433066$0$10789$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58388
In article <GPCdnauoR_tGtd7OnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2014.04.07, 18:12 , Warren Oates wrote:
> > In article <534315f0$0$46385$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>,
> > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> IN fairness, there are times where a reboot is faster than putzing
> >> around trying things in the blind.
> >
> > Depends. If I tell the Mac to restart, it will be at least 4 minutes or
> > more before I'm back at my Finder screen. Putzing around, at least I can
> > continue to download my spanking videos in the background.
> >
> > On the other hand, my Arch Linux laptop reboots (to X) in about 40
> > seconds. And ext4 journaling is so robust that it's actually faster and
> > easier to reboot by pushing the power button. Oh oh, here comes Teh
> > Appol Duhfense L33g.
> 
> Nothing like a fast booting system that's otherwise useless.

Like I said, here they cum ...
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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