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  Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:04 +1300
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Bob E. <bespoke@invalid.tv> - 2015-03-07 20:37 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-08 17:49 +1300
        Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-08 09:35 -0500
          Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-08 09:39 -0500
          Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 18:31 +0000
            Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-08 19:22 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 19:39 +0000
          Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-09 08:56 +1300
            Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-08 19:58 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-03-08 16:42 -0400
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-09 13:31 +1300
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-09 14:17 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-10 00:18 +0000
                  Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-10 21:50 +0000
                    Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-11 04:46 +0000
                      Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-11 09:21 -0400
                        Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-12 03:16 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 06:04 +0100
      Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-08 19:48 +1300
        Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 10:57 +0100
          Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-08 23:29 +1300
            Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 11:36 +0100
              Re: What usenet client are you using? christian150205@ghanart.org (Christian) - 2015-03-08 12:18 +0100
        Re: What usenet client are you using? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-09 10:48 +1300
          Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-09 14:33 +1300

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#70140 — Re: What usenet client are you using?

tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> wrote:

> On 2015-02-19, Bob E <bespoke@invalid.tv> wrote:
> >> Hi folks,
> >> 
> >> Just wondering what usenet client you guys are using?
> >> ...
> >> John
> >
> > Hogwasher under Snow Leopard running on a secondary mini. No it won't run on
> > Lion or later but it's UI is great and the author swears he's got a new
> > version "soon". 
> >
> 
> He's been saying hat for 6 YEARS...  :P

Tell me about it. Hell, I flirted with Hogwasher as far back as 1999,
and even then it was stuck in a buggy state without a recent update. I
realise to run in OSX it has been updated since, but the trouble is
bugfixes are years apart. MacSOUP may be a bit odd and lacking in modern
polish, but it's far better than Hogwasher for text groups. Always has
been IME. Stefan Hallar always gets on top of serious bugs, and hasn't
left me hanging in nearly two decades!
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#70645

> Tell me about it. Hell, I flirted with Hogwasher as far back as 1999,
> and even then it was stuck in a buggy state without a recent update. I
> realise to run in OSX it has been updated since, but the trouble is
> bugfixes are years apart. MacSOUP may be a bit odd and lacking in modern
> polish, but it's far better than Hogwasher for text groups. Always has
> been IME. Stefan Hallar always gets on top of serious bugs, and hasn't
> left me hanging in nearly two decades!

I don't see a current web site for MacSOUP. 

Is the last release really from 2009? :: 

http://www.macorchard.com/usenet/MacSOUP.php 

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#70646

In article
<0001HW.D1211223067BCF25B01029BF@news.eternal-september.org>, Bob E.
<bespoke@invalid.tv> wrote:
> > 
> > Tell me about it. Hell, I flirted with Hogwasher as far back as 1999,
> > and even then it was stuck in a buggy state without a recent update. I
> > realise to run in OSX it has been updated since, but the trouble is
> > bugfixes are years apart. MacSOUP may be a bit odd and lacking in modern
> > polish, but it's far better than Hogwasher for text groups. Always has
> > been IME. Stefan Hallar always gets on top of serious bugs, and hasn't
> > left me hanging in nearly two decades!
> 
> I don't see a current web site for MacSOUP. 
> 
> Is the last release really from 2009? :: 
> http://www.macorchard.com/usenet/MacSOUP.php 

Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
newsreaders.  ;-)

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#70665

In article <080320151749564920%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> 
> Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
> newsreaders.  ;-)

I just downloaded Thoth from CNET. But I had to jump through a bunch of
hoops and deny a few dialog boxes. But it did download:

http://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html

Not sure how it will work without a registration code or if it needs
one.

-- 
m-m
http://www.mhmyers.com

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#70666

In article <080320150935374841%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
wrote:

> In article <080320151749564920%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
> > newsreaders.  ;-)
> 
> I just downloaded Thoth from CNET. But I had to jump through a bunch of
> hoops and deny a few dialog boxes. But it did download:
> 
> http://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html
> 
> Not sure how it will work without a registration code or if it needs
> one.

Better to click on the direct download link at the bottom portion of
the page.

-- 
m-m
http://www.mhmyers.com

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#70671

On 2015-03-08, M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
> In article <080320151749564920%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
><YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>> 
>> Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
>> newsreaders.  ;-)
>
> I just downloaded Thoth from CNET.

You're nuts. CNET is well-known for adding adware & nagware to anything
you download from them. 

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#70673

On 2015-03-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2015-03-08, M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
>> In article <080320151749564920%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
>><YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
>>> newsreaders.  ;-)
>>
>> I just downloaded Thoth from CNET.
>
> You're nuts. CNET is well-known for adding adware & nagware to anything
> you download from them. 
>

Interstingly tho, the Thoth download from CNET lacked any of that tripe.  They
must not consider it a vector for any profit, so they didn't bother.

-- 
Expect the worst, it's the least you can do.

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#70674

On 2015-03-08, tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> wrote:
> On 2015-03-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-03-08, M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
>>> In article <080320151749564920%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
>>><YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
>>>> newsreaders.  ;-)
>>>
>>> I just downloaded Thoth from CNET.
>>
>> You're nuts. CNET is well-known for adding adware & nagware to anything
>> you download from them. 
>
> Interstingly tho, the Thoth download from CNET lacked any of that tripe.  They
> must not consider it a vector for any profit, so they didn't bother.

Perhaps it's just that old...

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#70677

In article <080320150935374841%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
wrote:
> In article <080320151749564920%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
> > newsreaders.  ;-)
> 
> I just downloaded Thoth from CNET. But I had to jump through a bunch of
> hoops and deny a few dialog boxes. But it did download:
> 
> http://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html
> 
> Not sure how it will work without a registration code or if it needs
> one.

I pretty sure it's a time limited version (30 days?) until you enter
the registration code, although I registered the couple of old versions
I've used, so I don't know what happens when the demo time runs out ...
the problem is that it's no longer supported and the website no longer
exists to actually register it. Apparently the old registration codes
don't work in the newest version either.  :-(

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#70679

On 2015-03-08, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <080320150935374841%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
> wrote:
>> In article <080320151749564920%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
>> > newsreaders.  ;-)
>> 
>> I just downloaded Thoth from CNET. But I had to jump through a bunch of
>> hoops and deny a few dialog boxes. But it did download:
>> 
>> http://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html
>> 
>> Not sure how it will work without a registration code or if it needs
>> one.
>
> I pretty sure it's a time limited version (30 days?) until you enter
> the registration code, although I registered the couple of old versions
> I've used, so I don't know what happens when the demo time runs out ...
> the problem is that it's no longer supported and the website no longer
> exists to actually register it. Apparently the old registration codes
> don't work in the newest version either.  :-(

Exactly what I ran into.  My code doesn't work with the newest Thoth so I set up
slrn and to get xface support I run slrn in an xterm with slrnface.  Works great
and does everything I need.

It's sad that Mac Usenet readers have all but gone the way of the Dodo.. :-/

-- 
If you can't read this, blame a teacher.

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#70684

On 3/8/15 3:58 PM, tmo1138 wrote:
> On 2015-03-08, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> In article <080320150935374841%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
>> wrote:
>>> In article <080320151749564920%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
>>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
>>>> newsreaders.  ;-)
>>>
>>> I just downloaded Thoth from CNET. But I had to jump through a bunch of
>>> hoops and deny a few dialog boxes. But it did download:
>>>
>>> http://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html
>>>
>>> Not sure how it will work without a registration code or if it needs
>>> one.
>>
>> I pretty sure it's a time limited version (30 days?) until you enter
>> the registration code, although I registered the couple of old versions
>> I've used, so I don't know what happens when the demo time runs out ...
>> the problem is that it's no longer supported and the website no longer
>> exists to actually register it. Apparently the old registration codes
>> don't work in the newest version either.  :-(
>
> Exactly what I ran into.  My code doesn't work with the newest Thoth so I set up
> slrn and to get xface support I run slrn in an xterm with slrnface.  Works great
> and does everything I need.
>
> It's sad that Mac Usenet readers have all but gone the way of the Dodo.. :-/
>

Kinda' like usenet...at least there's a symmetry there;-)

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sign.”
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team, and I need me eight soldiers."

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#70687

In article <mdic77$h97$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
<apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> On 3/8/15 3:58 PM, tmo1138 wrote:
> > On 2015-03-08, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >> In article <080320150935374841%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
> >> wrote:
> >>> In article <080320151749564920%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> >>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
> >>>> newsreaders.  ;-)
> >>>
> >>> I just downloaded Thoth from CNET. But I had to jump through a bunch of
> >>> hoops and deny a few dialog boxes. But it did download:
> >>>
> >>> http://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html
> >>>
> >>> Not sure how it will work without a registration code or if it needs
> >>> one.
> >>
> >> I pretty sure it's a time limited version (30 days?) until you enter
> >> the registration code, although I registered the couple of old versions
> >> I've used, so I don't know what happens when the demo time runs out ...
> >> the problem is that it's no longer supported and the website no longer
> >> exists to actually register it. Apparently the old registration codes
> >> don't work in the newest version either.  :-(
> >
> > Exactly what I ran into.  My code doesn't work with the newest Thoth so I
> > set up slrn and to get xface support I run slrn in an xterm with slrnface.
> > Works great and does everything I need.
> >
> > It's sad that Mac Usenet readers have all but gone the way of the Dodo.. :-/
> 
> Kinda' like usenet...at least there's a symmetry there;-)

Triple symmetry since many of the smart posters left long ago and the
place is now mostly full of those with the brains of a "dodo" (like
nospam and the other know-nothings). :-(

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#70692

Okay, so one time? In band camp? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> was all, like:
> On 2015-03-08, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> In article <080320150935374841%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
>> wrote:
>>> In article <080320151749564920%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
>>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
>>> > newsreaders.  ;-)
>>> 
>>> I just downloaded Thoth from CNET. But I had to jump through a bunch of
>>> hoops and deny a few dialog boxes. But it did download:
>>> 
>>> http://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html
>>> 
>>> Not sure how it will work without a registration code or if it needs
>>> one.
>>
>> I pretty sure it's a time limited version (30 days?) until you enter
>> the registration code, although I registered the couple of old versions
>> I've used, so I don't know what happens when the demo time runs out ...
>> the problem is that it's no longer supported and the website no longer
>> exists to actually register it. Apparently the old registration codes
>> don't work in the newest version either.  :-(

> Exactly what I ran into.  My code doesn't work with the newest Thoth so I set up
> slrn and to get xface support I run slrn in an xterm with slrnface.  Works great
> and does everything I need.

I'm just not willing to put up with xterm. I just run slrn in Terminal
without x-face support (even though I have an x-face defined, though
I've long forgotten what it is).

> It's sad that Mac Usenet readers have all but gone the way of the Dodo.. :-/

It's be nice if MTNW was updated, but there's been precious few good
news clients for the Mac. Let's see, MTNW and Cyberdog and... ???

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#70774

On 2015-03-09, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> was all, like:
>> On 2015-03-08, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> In article <080320150935374841%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
>>> wrote:
>>>> In article <080320151749564920%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
>>>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Real men don't wash hogs or eat soup ... they use Thoth, the God of
>>>> > newsreaders.  ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> I just downloaded Thoth from CNET. But I had to jump through a bunch of
>>>> hoops and deny a few dialog boxes. But it did download:
>>>> 
>>>> http://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure how it will work without a registration code or if it needs
>>>> one.
>>>
>>> I pretty sure it's a time limited version (30 days?) until you enter
>>> the registration code, although I registered the couple of old versions
>>> I've used, so I don't know what happens when the demo time runs out ...
>>> the problem is that it's no longer supported and the website no longer
>>> exists to actually register it. Apparently the old registration codes
>>> don't work in the newest version either.  :-(
>
>> Exactly what I ran into.  My code doesn't work with the newest Thoth so I set up
>> slrn and to get xface support I run slrn in an xterm with slrnface.  Works great
>> and does everything I need.
>
> I'm just not willing to put up with xterm. I just run slrn in Terminal
> without x-face support (even though I have an x-face defined, though
> I've long forgotten what it is).

Understood.. for the times I'm lazy I'll probably set up a slrn without the
import for the xface support..

Oh. and your X-Face is a Yin-Yeng 

>
>> It's sad that Mac Usenet readers have all but gone the way of the Dodo.. :-/
>
> It's be nice if MTNW was updated, but there's been precious few good
> news clients for the Mac. Let's see, MTNW and Cyberdog and... ???
>

Well, maybe Simon will surprise us... Or someone might help him surprise us.


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System going down in 60 seconds

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#70829

Okay, so one time? In band camp? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> was all, like:
> On 2015-03-09, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> It's be nice if MTNW was updated, but there's been precious few good
>> news clients for the Mac. Let's see, MTNW and Cyberdog and... ???

> Well, maybe Simon will surprise us... Or someone might help him surprise us.

Last I heard he was working for Apple. I emailed him a couple of times
about either updating MTNW to not use OpenTransport or releasing the
code, but I never heard back from him.

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You Bastard was thinking: ...Delta squared. Thus, dimensional pressure k
will result in a ninety-degree transformation in Chi(16/x/pu)t for a
K-bundle of any three invariables. Or four minutes, plus or minus ten
seconds... The camel looked down at the great pads of his feet. Let
speed equal gallop. --Pyramids

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#70857

On 2015-03-10, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> was all, like:
>> On 2015-03-09, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>>> It's be nice if MTNW was updated, but there's been precious few good
>>> news clients for the Mac. Let's see, MTNW and Cyberdog and... ???
>
>> Well, maybe Simon will surprise us... Or someone might help him surprise us.
>
> Last I heard he was working for Apple. I emailed him a couple of times
> about either updating MTNW to not use OpenTransport or releasing the
> code, but I never heard back from him.
>

I actually just heard back from him.  The code is basically obsolete.  The UI
components would have to be updated for 64-bit.. the entire network transport
layer won't work with Yosemite any more either.  He said the easiest thing to do
would be to "cherry pick the usable parts of the code and start over from
scratch" but he's not sure there's enough people left using Usenet in Mac to
make it worthwhile.

I'd take a stab at it if I had the code but I don't really have that kind of
time these days.

-- 
When it's dark enough you can see the stars.
		-- Ralph Waldo Emerson,

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#70878

In article <slrnmfvi75.2jj.tmo1138@davidjr-macpro.local>, tmo1138
<tmo1138@tmo1138.com> wrote:

> On 2015-03-10, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > Okay, so one time? In band camp? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> was all,
> > like:
> >> On 2015-03-09, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >
> >>> It's be nice if MTNW was updated, but there's been precious few good
> >>> news clients for the Mac. Let's see, MTNW and Cyberdog and... ???
> >
> >> Well, maybe Simon will surprise us... Or someone might help him surprise
> >> us.
> >
> > Last I heard he was working for Apple. I emailed him a couple of times
> > about either updating MTNW to not use OpenTransport or releasing the
> > code, but I never heard back from him.
> >
> 
> I actually just heard back from him.  The code is basically obsolete.  The UI
> components would have to be updated for 64-bit.. the entire network transport
> layer won't work with Yosemite any more either.  He said the easiest thing to
> do
> would be to "cherry pick the usable parts of the code and start over from
> scratch" but he's not sure there's enough people left using Usenet in Mac to
> make it worthwhile.
> 
> I'd take a stab at it if I had the code but I don't really have that kind of
> time these days.


Yet Thoth works with Yosemite and that is basically the same UI

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#70916

On 2015-03-11, M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
> 
>> I'd take a stab at it if I had the code but I don't really have that kind of
>> time these days.
>
>
> Yet Thoth works with Yosemite and that is basically the same UI
>

Basically the same doesn't mean identical.  

-- 
Q:	What's the difference between a Mac and an Etch-a-Sketch?
A:	You don't have to shake the Mac to clear the screen.

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#70652

Bob E. <bespoke@invalid.tv> Wrote in message:
> > Tell me about it. Hell, I flirted with Hogwasher as far back as 1999,
>> and even then it was stuck in a buggy state without a recent update. I
>> realise to run in OSX it has been updated since, but the trouble is
>> bugfixes are years apart. MacSOUP may be a bit odd and lacking in modern
>> polish, but it's far better than Hogwasher for text groups. Always has
>> been IME. Stefan Hallar always gets on top of serious bugs, and hasn't
>> left me hanging in nearly two decades!
> 
> I don't see a current web site for MacSOUP. 
> 
> Is the last release really from 2009? :: 
> 
> http://www.macorchard.com/usenet/MacSOUP.php 
> 
> 
If click this:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=macsoup&ia=about

You'll find this:

http://www.haller-berlin.de/macsoup/version-history.html
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Bob E. <bespoke@invalid.tv> wrote:

> > Tell me about it. Hell, I flirted with Hogwasher as far back as 1999,
> > and even then it was stuck in a buggy state without a recent update. I
> > realise to run in OSX it has been updated since, but the trouble is
> > bugfixes are years apart. MacSOUP may be a bit odd and lacking in modern
> > polish, but it's far better than Hogwasher for text groups. Always has
> > been IME. Stefan Hallar always gets on top of serious bugs, and hasn't
> > left me hanging in nearly two decades!
> 
> I don't see a current web site for MacSOUP. 
> 
> Is the last release really from 2009? :: 

Yes.

> http://www.macorchard.com/usenet/MacSOUP.php 

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