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Malware help and skepticism

Started bySalmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net>
First post2014-01-30 21:44 -0800
Last post2014-02-01 10:30 -0500
Articles 20 on this page of 269 — 28 participants

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  Malware help and skepticism Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-01-30 21:44 -0800
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 19:35 +1300
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-30 22:46 -0800
    Re: Malware help and skepticism nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-31 02:11 -0500
      Re: Malware help and skepticism Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-01-31 09:34 -0800
        Re: Malware help and skepticism nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-31 13:22 -0500
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-01 09:57 +1300
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:48 +0000
      Re: Malware help and skepticism "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-01-31 22:23 +0000
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-31 20:39 -0500
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-01 15:07 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-01 17:06 +0000
            Re: Malware help and skepticism "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-02-02 01:44 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-02-02 01:36 +0000
            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 15:04 +1300
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-01-31 21:50 -0800
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-01 15:08 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-02-01 15:27 -0500
          Re: Malware help and skepticism "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-02-02 01:45 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 09:33 +0100
            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 09:32 +1300
    Re: Malware help and skepticism David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2014-01-31 08:02 -0600
      Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 09:57 -0500
      Re: Malware help and skepticism isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-01-31 10:37 -0800
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-31 12:57 -0700
    Re: Malware help and skepticism John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-01-31 16:59 -0500
      Re: Malware help and skepticism erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-01 12:34 -0600
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-01 22:58 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 18:42 -0500
            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 12:50 +1300
            Re: Malware help and skepticism nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 12:47 -0500
              Re: Malware help and skepticism George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-02 15:01 -0600
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 10:11 -0500
                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-04 08:47 +1300
                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-03 20:25 +0000
                  Re: Malware help and skepticism George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-03 16:13 -0600
                  Re: Malware help and skepticism erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-03 17:11 -0600
                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-03 23:35 +0000
                      Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-04 11:19 +1100
                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 08:51 +0000
                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 08:06 -0700
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 17:12 +0000
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 17:23 +0000
                                P.S. Hoffman (was Re: Malware help and skepticism) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-04 19:34 +0000
                                  Re: P.S. Hoffman (was Re: Malware help and skepticism) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:28 +0000
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 10:30 -0700
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 17:51 +0000
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 11:34 -0700
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:20 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:36 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 12:12 +1100
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 18:10 +0000
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 18:20 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 17:29 -0500
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 18:28 +0000
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-04 14:03 -0500
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 19:22 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:24 -0700
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 08:56 +1300
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:28 -0700
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:11 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 07:25 +0000
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 13:27 +0000
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 14:20 +0000
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:42 -0800
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 15:02 +0000
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:18 -0500
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 16:44 +0000
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 12:48 -0500
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 22:58 +0000
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 19:13 +0100
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:22 -0700
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:24 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:57 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 14:03 +0000
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 08:06 -0700
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 18:02 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 14:04 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 12:12 +1100
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 06:00 +1100
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 17:32 -0500
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 14:04 -0800
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 17:28 -0500
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 18:09 +0000
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 18:31 +0000
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:19 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:47 -0500
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 09:00 +1300
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:26 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 21:46 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:52 +0000
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 22:49 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:43 -0700
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 16:59 -0500
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 23:57 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:17 +0000
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:46 -0500
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:32 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-04 20:53 -0500
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 18:33 -0800
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 14:19 +1100
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 19:34 -0800
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 17:25 +1100
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 22:34 -0800
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 02:47 -0500
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:32 -0800
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:58 +1100
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 17:52 -0800
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 15:46 +1300
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:54 -0800
                                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 22:12 -0500
                                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 19:16 -0800
                                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 21:00 -0700
                                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 16:36 +1100
                                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 17:20 +1300
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:00 -0700
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 12:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 17:58 +0000
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:33 -0800
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 15:58 -0500
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 13:41 +1300
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:29 +0000
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 21:14 +0100
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 12:35 -0800
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 10:04 +1300
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 19:10 +1100
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 03:53 -0500
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-05 09:05 +0000
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 13:31 +0000
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 14:24 +0000
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:36 -0800
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 20:50 +0000
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:28 +1300
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 21:50 +0100
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 17:32 +1300
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-07 21:50 -0700
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:26 -0500
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:43 -0800
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:42 +1100
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:55 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:18 -0800
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:51 -0700
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 17:23 -0500
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-07 08:58 +1300
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 15:08 -0500
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-07 13:11 +1300
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:27 -0500
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-07 10:59 +1100
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-07 13:13 +1300
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 17:37 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-07 02:15 +0000
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 14:06 -0800
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 13:57 +1300
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 17:07 -0800
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 15:10 +1300
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:16 -0500
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:39 -0800
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:00 -0500
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:12 -0700
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 12:51 -0500
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 12:19 -0700
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:18 -0500
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:33 -0700
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 12:33 +1100
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:23 +1300
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:04 +0000
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:07 -0800
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 12:20 -0700
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:07 -0500
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:24 -0500
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 16:56 -0800
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 20:04 -0500
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 14:47 +1300
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 22:03 -0500
                                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 17:17 +1300
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 08:02 -0500
                                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 11:53 -0500
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 22:15 +0100
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 21:05 +0000
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 14:19 -0700
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 22:31 +0000
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:28 -0700
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:11 +0000
                                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-06 02:22 +0000
                                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 13:54 +0000
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 09:53 -0500
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 11:57 -0500
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 09:56 -0800
                                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 11:47 -0700
                                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-06 20:05 +0100
                                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 13:03 -0800
                                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 16:19 -0500
                                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:34 -0500
                                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:33 -0500
                                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 17:39 -0700
                                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-07 04:37 +0000
                                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-06 20:10 +0000
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:30 -0500
                                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-06 17:21 +0000
                                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:35 -0500
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:29 -0500
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:08 +0000
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:30 -0700
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:32 -0800
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 20:57 +0000
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:59 +1100
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 20:12 -0500
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-05 17:46 -0800
                                                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 16:10 +1100
                                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 08:00 -0500
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:21 +1300
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:09 -0700
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:20 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:12 -0500
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:19 +1300
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 14:14 -0700
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:02 +0000
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:26 -0500
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 13:35 +1300
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 18:19 -0700
                                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 14:05 +0000
                                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 09:37 -0500
                                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-07 04:48 +0000
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 17:22 -0500
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 10:02 +1100
                                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 23:19 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 23:56 +0000
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 13:59 +1300
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 12:52 +1100
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-05 09:09 +0000
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:35 +1100
                                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:16 -0700
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:55 -0500
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 17:00 -0500
                                        Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 12:22 +1100
                                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:05 -0500
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 12:51 -0500
                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 18:32 +0100
                          Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-08 08:31 +1100
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 17:07 -0500
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 11:52 +1300
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-08 10:38 +1100
                                Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-11 06:52 +0100
                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-04 13:28 +1300
                        Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 08:50 +0000
                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 11:05 -0800
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 19:20 +0000
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 08:53 +1300
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 19:39 +0100
                              Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 09:40 +1300
                  Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-03 18:31 -0500
                    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 13:01 -0500
                      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 11:36 -0700
                        Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-04 14:11 -0500
                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 09:06 +1300
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:39 -0700
                          Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:22 +0000
                            Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:07 +0000
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2014-02-01 08:03 -0600
      Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 09:08 -0500
        Re: Malware help and skepticism dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-02-01 20:47 +0000
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 16:41 -0500
            Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 11:27 +1300
          Re: Malware help and skepticism "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-02-02 15:05 -0500
      Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-01 07:55 -0700
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 11:22 -0500
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-01 20:10 -0700
      Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 10:36 -0500
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 10:30 -0500

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#56075

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-02-06 13:41 +1300
Message-ID<060220141341042114%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#56035
In article <52f2a5ef$0$34972$c3e8da3$460562f1@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 14-02-05 13:33, Doug Anderson wrote:
> 
> >> Well, there are some actors who, regardless of what part they're
> >> acting, are actually playing the same character.  William Shatner comes
> >> to mind.
> > 
> > Right.  And although he has done a number of things well, I think I'd
> > be hard pressed to call Shatner a good actor.
> 
> A number of others were also listed like Pacino etc.  Perhaps they are
> good actors, but not versatile actors as they are very good only in a
> fairly narrow range of roles.

One of the actors they often employed to play various aliens in The
Next Generation / Deep Space Nine / Voyager shows (and I think
Enterprise as well, but I didn't watch that) was so awful that you
could tell it was him no matter what alien make-up they put on him. 
:-\




> There is typecasting from previous movies, but also I think typecasting
> due to body and voice. Certain persons have bodies or voices which
> simply cannot be believable in certain roles. A tall, athletic guy with
> deep voice wouldn't be believable in a role where he is bullied at
> school no matter how good an actor he is.
> 
> There are actors whose bodies and voices are more "vanilla" and thus are
> bvelieable in a wider range of roles.
> 
> Animated is interesting because you can get surprised who who voices a
> character. 

The voice of Bart Simpson is of course a middle-aged woman (who also
voice some other characters) ... of course if he had actually aged as
the show went along, he'd almost be a middle-aged man by now.



> Fry in "Futurama" sounded like a young guy in his 20s. Yet,
> the person who voiced him was in his 60s by the time the show ended.

Nah, the show actually ran for 40 years.  ;-)
It hasn't ended yet, it's just taking another rest period before being
uncancelled again.  ;-)

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#56065

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-02-05 23:29 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlf5ian.24vg.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#56007
In message <daiosts92k.fsf@ethel.the.log> 
  Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> writes:

>> In article <52f1ec8b$0$12676$c3e8da3$69010069@news.astraweb.com>, JF
>> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> > So yeah, I type cast the person based on certain maneurisms and
>> > facial expresions/voice when they are acting.
>> 
>> Well, there are some actors who, regardless of what part they're
>> acting, are actually playing the same character.  William Shatner comes
>> to mind.

> Right.  And although he has done a number of things well, I think I'd
> be hard pressed to call Shatner a good actor.

I never saw much of his cop show, but his cop didn't seem like James
Kirk the few times I did see it. His character on Shit My Dad Says was
certainly nothing at all like Kirk.

<presses play on Shatner's "Has Been">

-- 
My biggest problem is that Steve insists on serving PURPLE Kool Aid, an
I don't like PURPLE <sip sip> Kool Aid.

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#56181

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2014-02-07 21:14 +0100
Message-ID<fdrfsa-g07.ln1@news.chingola.ch>
In reply to#55983
On 2014-02-05, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <52f1ec8b$0$12676$c3e8da3$69010069@news.astraweb.com>, JF
> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> So yeah, I type cast the person based on certain maneurisms and
>> facial expresions/voice when they are acting.
>
> Well, there are some actors who, regardless of what part they're
> acting, are actually playing the same character.  William Shatner comes
> to mind.

You have just reminded me of Richard Greene, who was forever Robin Hood in
my eyes.

His Wiki entry probably explains why, since (if it's safe to ignore repeats)
I was only 5 years old when the series came to an end:

"he was perhaps best known for the lead role in the long-running British
TV series The Adventures of Robin Hood, which ran for 143 episodes from
1955 to 1960."

If you think you don't know the series, Monty Python immortalised the
signature tune, changing "Robin Hood" to "Dennis Moore" in the sketch of
that name:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLkhx0eqK5w>

--
Paul Sture

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#56183

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-07 12:35 -0800
Message-ID<y17g96vexp.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#56181
Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> writes:

(snip)

> If you think you don't know the series, Monty Python immortalised the
> signature tune, changing "Robin Hood" to "Dennis Moore" in the sketch of
> that name:

Give me your lupins.

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#56186

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-02-08 10:04 +1300
Message-ID<080220141004152749%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#56183
In article <y17g96vexp.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> writes:
> 
> (snip)
> 
> > If you think you don't know the series, Monty Python immortalised the
> > signature tune, changing "Robin Hood" to "Dennis Moore" in the sketch of
> > that name:
> 
> Give me your lupins.

There's a TV advert in New Zealand where the evil mobile phone Sheriffs
steal your unused minutes and data at the end of the month. Robin Hood
comes along to save the day via mobile phone provider 2Degrees
Carryover plans (where unused minutes and data get stolen at the end of
the year instead).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DULEQH92aIk

There's apparently a similar, but even worse, advert idea in Australia
for Virgin Mobile using "Robin Da Hood" medieval character in a normal
modern day setting.

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#55948

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-02-05 19:10 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-5D22D3.19101105022014@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#55938
In article <1r61ouysni.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
 Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:

> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> writes:
> 
> > In article <2qtxces05s.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
> >  Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> writes:
> > > 
> > ...
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > ... there is an in-between. Some actors 
> > > > bring a lot of themselves into their roles, others do a pretty good 
> > > > job of being anything but.
> > > 
> > > I think _good_ actors are good precisely because they can play
> > > characters who are not like themselves.
> > > 
> > > That other thing, to paraphrase Truman Capote, is not acting, it's
> > > being.
> > > 
> >  
> > You are reverting to black and white thinking,...
> 
> Not sure what you mean by black and white thinking in this context,...
>

Black and white thinking is thinking there is no in-between 

> Good actors inhabit their characters and show the characters to the
> audience (not the actor's personality).
> 

It is not always completely so or not so.

> Competent actors can behave like their characters _if_ their
> characters are like themselves.
>

They can also do so if they are not.
 
> Bad actors don't behave like real people at all (yes, I mean you,
> Keanu Reeves).

There's truth in them words!

> 
> It isn't black and white - it's a range.
>

Hey, you *do* have a handle on this term sometimes! 

> What I _am_ saying is that thinking an actor is a snob because they
> played a part that is supposed to be a snob is simply a mistake.  


Well, are there are some complete dolts that don't know this? Maybe! 

> 
> > As I said, there is something in between. Everyone is a bit like 
> > everyone else in some respects,
> 
> Yes, that's true.
> 
> > sometimes there are gulfs to be 
> > crossed and yes, a good actor crosses these gulfs. 
> 
> Also true.
> 
> > But interesting actors can also bring some of the parts of themselves 
> > to their roles.
> 
> Also true - in fact I suspect that one of the secrets is identifying
> things in your character that you can see in yourself.
> 
> Nevertheless, it is a mistake to watch a great actor and think you are
> seeing that actor's personality in the character he or she is playing.

Yes, you are right.

-- 
dorayme

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#55949

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-02-05 03:53 -0500
Message-ID<52f1fc13$0$61572$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#55938
On 14-02-05 01:34, Doug Anderson wrote:

> Bad actors don't behave like real people at all (yes, I mean you,
> Keanu Reeves).


How would you react if you were on a runaway bus in LA that cannot slow
down below 50mph because of some giant bomb under your feet ?  How do
you know Reeves wasn't acting exactly how a real person would have
reacted in such a situation ?

And do you know Reeves wasn't acting exactly as one would if awakened
and told your whole life was a dream in a virtual reality world and you
now lived on some dark, dreary small ship very deep underground with
machines chasing you ?

:-)

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#55950

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-02-05 09:05 +0000
Message-ID<050220140905521264%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#55949
In article <52f1fc13$0$61572$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 14-02-05 01:34, Doug Anderson wrote:
> 
> > Bad actors don't behave like real people at all (yes, I mean you,
> > Keanu Reeves).

> How would you react if you were on a runaway bus in LA ...

They have buses in LA? I'll be damned.

-- 
"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
 lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores 
 the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
 into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams

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#55955

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-02-05 13:31 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlf4fa2.1pcu.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#55950
In message <050220140905521264%timstreater@greenbee.net> 
  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <52f1fc13$0$61572$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com>, JF
> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

>> On 14-02-05 01:34, Doug Anderson wrote:
>> 
>> > Bad actors don't behave like real people at all (yes, I mean you,
>> > Keanu Reeves).

>> How would you react if you were on a runaway bus in LA ...

> They have buses in LA? I'll be damned.

It's how the maids get to work and home.

-- 
"He loves Nature in spite of what it did to him." - Forrest Tucker

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#55963

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-02-05 14:24 +0000
Message-ID<blevsjF350U6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#55949
On 2014-02-05, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-02-05 01:34, Doug Anderson wrote:
>
>> Bad actors don't behave like real people at all (yes, I mean you,
>> Keanu Reeves).
>
> How would you react if you were on a runaway bus in LA that cannot slow
> down below 50mph because of some giant bomb under your feet ?  How do
> you know Reeves wasn't acting exactly how a real person would have
> reacted in such a situation ?
>
> And do you know Reeves wasn't acting exactly as one would if awakened
> and told your whole life was a dream in a virtual reality world and you
> now lived on some dark, dreary small ship very deep underground with
> machines chasing you ?
>
>:-)

I take it from your emoticon you are asking these questions in jest.
Otherwise, we can say with relative certainty that you are not the best
judge of good acting. : D

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#55967

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-05 06:36 -0800
Message-ID<wymwi51v98.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#55949
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:

> On 14-02-05 01:34, Doug Anderson wrote:
> 
> > Bad actors don't behave like real people at all (yes, I mean you,
> > Keanu Reeves).
> 
> 
> How would you react if you were on a runaway bus in LA that cannot slow
> down below 50mph because of some giant bomb under your feet ?

That is, without doubt, his best role.  

If I were Keanu Reeves on a runaway bus in LA that cannot slow down
below 50mph because of a giant bomb under my feet, I'd act exactly
the same as if I was a master surfing FBI agent trying to track down a
gang of violen surfer-bank robbers and exactly the same as if I were
from outer space judging whether the earth should continue to exist or
not, and ...

In other words, I'd be very consistent.  So I'd probably get it right
once.

> And do you know Reeves wasn't acting exactly as one would if awakened
> and told your whole life was a dream in a virtual reality world and you
> now lived on some dark, dreary small ship very deep underground with
> machines chasing you ?

Yeah - that!

I take it back.  He is a great actor - he's just gotten roles that all
demand acting like a slow-witted automoton with no emotions!

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#56033

FromPatty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com>
Date2014-02-05 20:50 +0000
Message-ID<52f2a428$0$52746$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>
In reply to#55967
In article <wymwi51v98.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
Doug Anderson  <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:
>
>> And do you know Reeves wasn't acting exactly as one would if awakened
>> and told your whole life was a dream in a virtual reality world and you
>> now lived on some dark, dreary small ship very deep underground with
>> machines chasing you ?
>
>Yeah - that!
>
>I take it back.  He is a great actor - he's just gotten roles that all
>demand acting like a slow-witted automoton with no emotions!

Don't get me started about "Much Ado About Nothing"....Although I 
thought he was pretty good in "Little Buddha."


Patty

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#56026

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-02-06 09:28 +1300
Message-ID<060220140928146036%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#55949
In article <52f1fc13$0$61572$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-02-05 01:34, Doug Anderson wrote:
> >
> > Bad actors don't behave like real people at all (yes, I mean you,
> > Keanu Reeves).
> 
> How would you react if you were on a runaway bus in LA that cannot slow
> down below 50mph because of some giant bomb under your feet ?  How do
> you know Reeves wasn't acting exactly how a real person would have
> reacted in such a situation ?

"Dude, there's a bomb on the bus, like narly."



> And do you know Reeves wasn't acting exactly as one would if awakened
> and told your whole life was a dream in a virtual reality world and you
> now lived on some dark, dreary small ship very deep underground with
> machines chasing you ?
> 
> :-)

"Dude, it's not real, we're underground, like narly."

;-)

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#56205

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2014-02-07 21:50 +0100
Message-ID<4itfsa-2o8.ln1@news.chingola.ch>
In reply to#55949
On 2014-02-05, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-02-05 01:34, Doug Anderson wrote:
>
>> Bad actors don't behave like real people at all (yes, I mean you,
>> Keanu Reeves).
>
>
> How would you react if you were on a runaway bus in LA that cannot slow
> down below 50mph because of some giant bomb under your feet ?  How do
> you know Reeves wasn't acting exactly how a real person would have
> reacted in such a situation ?
>
>:-)

The thing about Speed was that having seen it rubbished by the critics
I avoided it.  But when I was stuck in a hotel with nothing else to do
and it came on TV and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

--
Paul Sture

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#56213

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-02-08 17:32 +1300
Message-ID<080220141732108269%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#56205
In article <4itfsa-2o8.ln1@news.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture
<nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On 2014-02-05, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > On 14-02-05 01:34, Doug Anderson wrote:
> >> 
> >> Bad actors don't behave like real people at all (yes, I mean you,
> >> Keanu Reeves).
> >
> > How would you react if you were on a runaway bus in LA that cannot slow
> > down below 50mph because of some giant bomb under your feet ?  How do
> > you know Reeves wasn't acting exactly how a real person would have
> > reacted in such a situation ?
> >
> >:-)
> 
> The thing about Speed was that having seen it rubbished by the critics
> I avoided it.  But when I was stuck in a hotel with nothing else to do
> and it came on TV and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

*Never* listen to movie critics. They're brainless snobs who like all
the boring drivel. 

Having said that, personally I didn't like Speed (what I've seen of
it), and Speed 2 would have been even worse since it had the New
Zealander Temuera "I can't act but my uncles a big celebrity back home"
Morrison in it.

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#56216

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-02-07 21:50 -0700
Message-ID<070220142150555695%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#56213
In article <080220141732108269%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> *Never* listen to movie critics. They're brainless snobs who like all
> the boring drivel.

Not true; there was one movie critic many decades ago who had
consistent reviews; I knew that if he panned a movie, I'd like it, and
if he praised a movie, I wouldn't like it.  It took me about six months
to figure that out, but for the next five years, it worked perfectly.

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#55964

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-05 09:26 -0500
Message-ID<52f24a29$0$51574$c3e8da3$eb767761@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#55937
In article <do_ray_me-450FC0.17251005022014@news.albasani.net>,
 dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In article <2qtxces05s.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
>  Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> writes:
> > 
> ...
> 
> > > 
> > > ... there is an in-between. Some actors 
> > > bring a lot of themselves into their roles, others do a pretty good 
> > > job of being anything but.
> > 
> > I think _good_ actors are good precisely because they can play
> > characters who are not like themselves.
> > 
> > That other thing, to paraphrase Truman Capote, is not acting, it's
> > being.
> > 
>  
> You are reverting to black and white thinking, was it you that accused 
> nospam of this at one stage! 
> 
> As I said, there is something in between. Everyone is a bit like 
> everyone else in some respects, sometimes there are gulfs to be 
> crossed and yes, a good actor crosses these gulfs. 
> 
> But interesting actors can also bring some of the parts of themselves 
> to their roles.

Famous story about another actor named Hoffman and Laurence Olivier 
shooting Marathon Man. Dustin had stayed up all night, doing his method 
stuff, fretting and sweating and getting disheveled and tired ready for 
his scene; Sir Laurence ("as 'e woz then") shows up on the set, good 
night's sleep, fine breakfast, crease in his pants and asks Hoffman 
what's wrong. Hoffman explains that he was preparing for the scene. Sir 
Laurence says "Dustin, Dustin, haven't you heard of 'acting?'"

Not sure of that punctuation.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#55970

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-05 06:43 -0800
Message-ID<42zjm5zkl7.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#55964
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> writes:

(snip)

> Famous story about another actor named Hoffman and Laurence Olivier 
> shooting Marathon Man. Dustin had stayed up all night, doing his method 
> stuff, fretting and sweating and getting disheveled and tired ready for 
> his scene; Sir Laurence ("as 'e woz then") shows up on the set, good 
> night's sleep, fine breakfast, crease in his pants and asks Hoffman 
> what's wrong. Hoffman explains that he was preparing for the scene. Sir 
> Laurence says "Dustin, Dustin, haven't you heard of 'acting?'"

Love that story.

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#56076

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-02-06 11:42 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-A7114B.11422906022014@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#55964
In article <52f24a29$0$51574$c3e8da3$eb767761@news.astraweb.com>,
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <do_ray_me-450FC0.17251005022014@news.albasani.net>,
>  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <2qtxces05s.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
> >  Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> writes:
> > > 
> > ...

> > As I said, there is something in between. Everyone is a bit like 
> > everyone else in some respects, sometimes there are gulfs to be 
> > crossed and yes, a good actor crosses these gulfs. 
> > 
> > But interesting actors can also bring some of the parts of themselves 
> > to their roles.
> 
> Famous story about another actor named Hoffman and Laurence Olivier 
> shooting Marathon Man. Dustin had stayed up all night, doing his method 
> stuff, fretting and sweating and getting disheveled and tired ready for 
> his scene; Sir Laurence ("as 'e woz then") shows up on the set, good 
> night's sleep, fine breakfast, crease in his pants and asks Hoffman 
> what's wrong. Hoffman explains that he was preparing for the scene. Sir 
> Laurence says "Dustin, Dustin, haven't you heard of 'acting?'"
> 
 
Yes, nice story. <g>

-- 
dorayme

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#55982

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-02-05 09:55 -0700
Message-ID<050220140955211087%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#55932
In article <2qtxces05s.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think _good_ actors are good precisely because they can play
> characters who are not like themselves.

Dabney Coleman comes to mind.  Gordon Ramsey is another.  (And for that
matter, so are many professional wrestlers.)

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