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  Naive question about Mail - or mailers Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-05 09:33 +0000
    Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers billy@MIX.COM - 2013-11-05 17:30 +0000
      Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2013-11-05 19:09 +0100
        Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-05 11:21 -0700
          Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-05 15:35 -0600
            Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-06 08:20 +0000
          Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2013-11-05 15:51 -0700
            Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-06 18:33 +1300
          Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-05 17:49 -0700
            Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers John White <jccw@comcast.net> - 2013-11-05 23:32 -0500
              Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-06 08:13 -0700
      Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-11-05 12:10 -0600
      Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-06 17:42 +0000
        Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2013-11-06 12:34 -0700
          Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-07 01:25 +0000
        Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-11-07 01:52 -0800
          Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers John White <jccw@comcast.net> - 2013-11-07 06:54 -0500
            Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2013-11-07 12:08 -0700
              Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-08 09:03 +1300
              Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2013-11-07 14:54 -0700
                Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-07 16:29 -0600
                Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-07 22:53 +0000
                  Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-11-07 17:06 -0600
              Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-07 22:25 -0700
          Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-08 09:13 +1300
            Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-07 16:24 -0500
    Re: Naive question about Mail - or mailers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-06 09:25 +1300

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#52034

In article <1lbz01x.5xxbsv1lgk26vN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello
<nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > BTW, the rumor is that 10.9.2 is already in the pipeline. 
> 
> And the Mavericks Mail update is already out. 
> 
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1703>
> 

And also an iBooks update as well.

-- 
Lloyd

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#52035

In message <1lbz01x.5xxbsv1lgk26vN%nmassello@yahoo.com> 
  Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> BTW, the rumor is that 10.9.2 is already in the pipeline. 

> And the Mavericks Mail update is already out. 

> <http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1703>

Odd. It won't install on my MBP.

-- 
Age is only important if you're cheese.

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#52036

On 11/7/13, 4:53 PM, Lewis wrote:
> Odd. It won't install on my MBP.
>

Installed fine on mine. Although I don't use Mail.app, I figured I 
should be up-to-date anyway.

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#52053

In article <1lbyry6.ndbz54pmn5kkN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello
<nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Rumor has it that there will be an update to the Mail application, 
> > intended to make it play better with gmail
> 
> At which point the similarity of today's Google to the old Microsoft
> becomes even more evident. Apple frequently had to add special
> provisions to Mac OS in order to accommodate the Microsoft's, especially
> Word's, way of doing things. 

the mail update to address the GMail problem was released today.

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#52019

In article <786438be-42e9-4ab1-8156-dd320c30db60@googlegroups.com>,
<rcp27g@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:42:10 UTC+1, Another John  wrote:
> > 
> > What I was hoping for -- which is obviously now not going to happen -- 
> > was for someone to say  "Why dontcha just use [unheard of fantastic mail 
> > program] with POP on Gmail?".
> > 
> > I suppose I'm also fairly unique these days in that I almost only ever 
> > use email on my Mac on my desk: I *could* use POP (and delete from 
> > server).  In fact why don't I look into doing that using Mail/Gmail.....
> 
> I think the root of your problem is not migrating from Eudora to Mail, but
> from migrating to a (most likely standards-compliant) university email server
> to Gmail.  Gmail does not behave in the way an email server is intended to
> behave, so while it communicates via POP or IMAP, because it stores and
> processes mail in its own "special" way, any email client you use with it
> will do strange things.
> 
> Personally, having used Gmail since the days of invitation only, I am finally
> getting annoyed enough with it that I wish to find an alternative.  Still
> deciding which way to go, though.

Stay WELL clear of useless Yahoo's free email. The idiots insist that
you visit their webmail site regularly, despite providing POP / IMAP
access. If you don't visit the webmail site "often enough", they simply
cancel your account with absolutely no warning.  X-(

I use the GMX free email for one of my accounts. No problems with that
via Eudora and POP access ... although the website was all in German
when I signed up, but there is now an English version at http://gmx.com
.

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#52026

In article <081120130913063858%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Stay WELL clear of useless Yahoo's free email. The idiots insist that
> you visit their webmail site regularly, despite providing POP / IMAP
> access. If you don't visit the webmail site "often enough", they simply
> cancel your account with absolutely no warning.  X-(

nonsense.

as long as you are actively using yahoo mail, whether it's an app or
the web site, it doesn't get cancelled.

only if you don't use it does it get cancelled, which isn't a problem
because you weren't using it.

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#51898

In article
<lalaw44-BCA7DB.09334505112013@surfnet-nl.ipv4.ptr.145.109.x.invalid>,
Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I used [the blessed] Eudora/POP for mail for decades. Due to various 
> pressures that had built up in the world of computing over the years, I 
> finally had to abandon it and reluctantly started to use Apple's Mail in 
> 2010.  (A mailer which is more complicated, but not as powerful as 
> Eudora.)
> 
> Coincidentally I also had to start to use Gmail (I retired, and had to 
> give up my university email account).  
> 
> So I'm using Mail as an agent for Gmail.
> 
> Whereas with Eudora and POP I had total control over all my email, and I 
> knew where it all was, and what state it was all in, that whole scenario 
> has now gone.  I can't tell what Mail is doing half the time, and ditto 
> for Gmail (with knobs on).
<snip>

Thankfully I'm still using Eudora (Mac OS 10.2) and only have to use
Mail for one person who has a weird Windows PC that refuses to accept
Eudora attachments (nobody else using Windows has this issue).

Mail, even under Mac OS 10.5 has some strange bugs and quirks that are
annoying, not the least of which is that the so-called "Activity Window
/ Panel" rarely ever actually shows you what Mail is doing.  :-\

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