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  Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-02 16:33 -0400
    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-06-02 20:43 +0000
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-03 09:37 +1200
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 18:20 -0400
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 23:17 +0000
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 18:00 -0700
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-06-02 16:55 -0700
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 18:01 -0700
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-03 13:18 +1200
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 20:12 -0700
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 20:23 -0700
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 20:29 -0700
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 13:07 +0000
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-06-03 06:48 -0700
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-06-03 14:35 +0000
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-06-03 12:53 -0400
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 16:59 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-06-03 16:08 -0400
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-03 11:16 -0700
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-06-03 13:35 -0700
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 09:29 +1200
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 21:39 +0000
                        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 22:08 +0000
                        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-05 23:52 -0400
                          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 05:39 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-03 16:17 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-06-04 01:03 -0400
                          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-03 22:48 -0700
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) cb <cb@aol.com> - 2014-06-04 15:39 +0200
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-06-03 20:57 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 09:35 +1200
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-03 11:09 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-06-03 17:04 -0700
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-03 17:19 -0700
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 13:16 +1200
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-06-03 22:11 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 18:54 +1200
                          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:50 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-04 03:08 +0000
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 19:39 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-06-03 17:05 -0700
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-03 17:57 -0400
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-06-03 17:06 -0700
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-04 21:33 -0400
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-06-05 15:56 -0400
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-03 08:46 +0200
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-06-03 01:43 +0000
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-06-02 20:20 -0700
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-06-03 05:02 +0000
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-06-03 10:07 +0200
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-06-03 06:51 -0700
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-03 18:46 +1200
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2014-06-04 01:17 -0400
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 19:00 +1200
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:52 +0000
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Philip Shaw <jnufcvyvuc@tznvy.pbz> - 2014-06-10 04:03 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-10 16:06 +1200
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-06-10 10:35 -0500
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-10 16:06 -0400
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-06-10 15:47 -0500
                        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-11 09:38 +1200
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-11 09:22 +1200
                        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-06-10 22:57 +0000
                          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-11 13:18 +1200
                        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-10 16:24 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-10 16:28 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-06-10 18:54 -0600
                              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-10 20:40 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-11 13:17 +1200
                          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 02:52 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-11 09:20 +1200
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-11 12:23 +1200
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:50 +0000
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 08:58 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-04 15:09 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 20:14 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 19:26 -0700
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-05 09:53 +1200
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 04:05 +0000
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 05:19 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 18:13 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-06 09:25 +1200
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-06-05 17:06 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-06 13:03 +1200
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-03 12:35 -0400
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 16:40 +0000
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-03 12:58 -0400
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 17:00 +0000
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 09:33 +1200
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 09:45 +1200
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-03 17:56 -0400
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 02:47 +0000
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-18 13:07 -0700
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-19 09:34 +1200
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-02 21:43 -0400
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 13:40 +1200
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-06-03 22:14 -0500
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 03:20 +0000
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 16:32 +1200
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-06-04 07:30 -0500
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:48 +0000
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:48 +0000
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-04 22:53 +0000
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 04:19 +0000
    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-02 22:02 +0000
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-03 17:55 -0400
    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 19:40 -0700
    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 02:44 +0000
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-06-03 08:24 -0700
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-06-03 12:57 -0500
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-03 18:46 -0700
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-06-03 22:16 -0500
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-04 12:16 -0400
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-03 23:20 -0400
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 16:17 +1200
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-06-03 22:58 -0700
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-04 00:00 -0700
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-03 23:21 -0500
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-04 04:37 +0000
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:58 +0000
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-04 22:30 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 22:38 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 03:11 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 05:18 +0000
                        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-06-05 09:37 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 16:45 +0000
                            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-05 10:04 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 17:53 +0000
                            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:15 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 19:04 +0000
                                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 19:30 +0000
                                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-06-06 21:05 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 19:28 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 01:32 -0400
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-06-04 12:30 -0400
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-04 09:39 -0700
              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 04:03 +0000
                Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 05:23 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 19:02 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 19:34 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2014-06-06 10:33 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-06 14:58 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-07 10:22 +1200
                    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 19:39 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:45 +0000
                        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-07 05:10 +0000
                          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 14:19 +0000
                            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-06-07 08:17 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-07 16:20 +0000
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-04 19:01 +1200
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:54 +0000
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:57 +0000
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 04:16 +0000
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-06-03 15:06 -0400
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-04 09:36 +1200
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 15:50 +0000
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 15:54 +0000
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 19:15 +0000
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 19:52 +0000
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 15:54 +0000
    Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 15:55 +0000
      Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-06-03 15:24 -0400
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 19:38 +0000
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 21:33 +0000
        Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 19:53 +0000
          Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-06-03 17:52 -0400
            Re: Yosemite (OS X 10.10) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 22:07 +0000

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#60268

For your reference, records indicate that 
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-06-05, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > In message <040620140117334789%nospam@ny.more> 
> >   M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
> >
> >> Who refers to the OS by the name anyhow?
> >
> > Most people. Almost all users. A few of the more geeky people as well.
> 
> Then I'm glad to be different. I almost always refer to Mac OS releases
> by version number, so there is as little confusion as possible.

As Apple is quick to point out, their users often quickly upgrade to
whatever the latest OS offering is.  So, for most people, there is no
confusion when all they ever think about is whether or not the name they
know is the name of the current OS version.  It’s only us developers and
other techies that really care about the full history enough to want to
know them by number.

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#60286

In article <lmqc08$tae$6@dont-email.me>, Darrin "Doc" O'Leary
<droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On 2014-06-05, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > > In message <040620140117334789%nospam@ny.more> 
> > >   M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Who refers to the OS by the name anyhow?
> > >
> > > Most people. Almost all users. A few of the more geeky people as well.
> > 
> > Then I'm glad to be different. I almost always refer to Mac OS releases
> > by version number, so there is as little confusion as possible.
> 
> As Apple is quick to point out, their users often quickly upgrade to
> whatever the latest OS offering is.  So, for most people, there is no
> confusion when all they ever think about is whether or not the name they
> know is the name of the current OS version.  It's only us developers and
> other techies that really care about the full history enough to want to
> know them by number.

Nope. 

An app's specifications that says it requires "Snow Leopard or better"
is completely meaningless to everyone. An eBay auction selling
"Leopard" doesn't remotely tell you whether that's before or after
"Lion". etc. etc.

Anywhere sensible always lists the OS as "Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks",
which simply makes the name a pointless extra.

It's simply an idiotic marketing gimmick, and one that doesn't make any
sense at all ... iOS only uses numbers and Mac OS X should do the same.


Even the brianless fools running Microsoft have worked that out and
dropped "Windows XP" and "Windows Vista" to use just "Windows 7" and
"Windows 8" ... although they typically still make a mess of it by
having an "Xbox One" that is newer than an "Xbox 360".  :-\

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#60301

On 6/5/14   PDT, 2:25 PM, Your Name wrote:
> In article <lmqc08$tae$6@dont-email.me>, Darrin "Doc" O'Leary
> <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:
>> For your reference, records indicate that
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-06-05, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>> In message <040620140117334789%nospam@ny.more>
>>>>    M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Who refers to the OS by the name anyhow?
>>>>
>>>> Most people. Almost all users. A few of the more geeky people as well.
>>>
>>> Then I'm glad to be different. I almost always refer to Mac OS releases
>>> by version number, so there is as little confusion as possible.
>>
>> As Apple is quick to point out, their users often quickly upgrade to
>> whatever the latest OS offering is.  So, for most people, there is no
>> confusion when all they ever think about is whether or not the name they
>> know is the name of the current OS version.  It's only us developers and
>> other techies that really care about the full history enough to want to
>> know them by number.
>
> Nope.
>
> An app's specifications that says it requires "Snow Leopard or better"
> is completely meaningless to everyone. An eBay auction selling
> "Leopard" doesn't remotely tell you whether that's before or after
> "Lion". etc. etc.
>
> Anywhere sensible always lists the OS as "Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks",
> which simply makes the name a pointless extra.
>
> It's simply an idiotic marketing gimmick, and one that doesn't make any
> sense at all ... iOS only uses numbers and Mac OS X should do the same.
>
>
> Even the brianless fools running Microsoft have worked that out and
> dropped "Windows XP" and "Windows Vista" to use just "Windows 7" and
> "Windows 8" ... although they typically still make a mess of it by
> having an "Xbox One" that is newer than an "Xbox 360".  :-\
>



A lot of writing and emotion over "an idiotic marketing gimmick", no??
And I have it on good authority that there are at least a dozen fools 
named Brian at M$.
Have a nice day!

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#60304

In article <lmr0mf$qud$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams
<jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 6/5/14   PDT, 2:25 PM, Your Name wrote:
> >
<snip>
> >
> > Even the brianless fools running Microsoft have worked that out and
> > dropped "Windows XP" and "Windows Vista" to use just "Windows 7" and
> > "Windows 8" ... although they typically still make a mess of it by
> > having an "Xbox One" that is newer than an "Xbox 360".  :-\
> 
> A lot of writing and emotion over "an idiotic marketing gimmick", no??
> And I have it on good authority that there are at least a dozen fools 
> named Brian at M$.
> Have a nice day!

Nope, if they had Brians then the company would be way better off ...
Brians are intelligent people - they have brains which are only
slightly confused.  ;-)

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#60012

In article <538d282b$0$52735$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
 Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

> In article <billvan-7CBD08.16554402062014@news.shawcable.net>,
> bill van  <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> [unneeded quotage deleted]
> 
> 
> >Will it have the same name outside North America? If so, there are going 
> >to be pronunciation problems. "Jose might" could be one variation.
> 
> Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course, but
> plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.

Even if they don't know the national park, they almost certainly know 
Yosemite Sam.

Or does he have a different name in other countries?

-- 
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Arlington, MA
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#60013

On 2014-06-03, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <538d282b$0$52735$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
>  Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <billvan-7CBD08.16554402062014@news.shawcable.net>,
>> bill van  <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> [unneeded quotage deleted]
>> 
>> 
>> >Will it have the same name outside North America? If so, there are going 
>> >to be pronunciation problems. "Jose might" could be one variation.
>> 
>> Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course, but
>> plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.
>
> Even if they don't know the national park, they almost certainly know 
> Yosemite Sam.
>
> Or does he have a different name in other countries?

The names are just code names. Who cares?

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#60020

In article <bv6c3sFkkumU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-06-03, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > In article <538d282b$0$52735$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> >  Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <billvan-7CBD08.16554402062014@news.shawcable.net>,
> >> bill van  <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> 
> >> [unneeded quotage deleted]
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >Will it have the same name outside North America? If so, there are going 
> >> >to be pronunciation problems. "Jose might" could be one variation.
> >> 
> >> Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course, but
> >> plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.
> >
> > Even if they don't know the national park, they almost certainly know 
> > Yosemite Sam.
> >
> > Or does he have a different name in other countries?
> 
> The names are just code names. Who cares?

Apple has used them in their marketing of OS releases for years, they're 
not just internal code names. Back when you bought the release on disks, 
the package said "OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard", with a picture of the beast.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#60023

On 2014-06-03, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <bv6c3sFkkumU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-06-03, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> > In article <538d282b$0$52735$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
>> >  Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <billvan-7CBD08.16554402062014@news.shawcable.net>,
>> >> bill van  <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> [unneeded quotage deleted]
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >Will it have the same name outside North America? If so, there are going 
>> >> >to be pronunciation problems. "Jose might" could be one variation.
>> >> 
>> >> Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course, but
>> >> plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.
>> >
>> > Even if they don't know the national park, they almost certainly know 
>> > Yosemite Sam.
>> >
>> > Or does he have a different name in other countries?
>> 
>> The names are just code names. Who cares?
>
> Apple has used them in their marketing of OS releases for years, they're 
> not just internal code names. Back when you bought the release on disks, 
> the package said "OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard", with a picture of the beast.

And how does any of this matter to me in my daily life?

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#60057

In article <barmar-0AC736.12584803062014@news.eternal-september.org>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <bv6c3sFkkumU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On 2014-06-03, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > > In article <538d282b$0$52735$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> > >  Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
> > >> In article <billvan-7CBD08.16554402062014@news.shawcable.net>,
> > >> bill van  <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> [unneeded quotage deleted]
> > >> 
> > >> >Will it have the same name outside North America? If so, there are
> > >> >going 
> > >> >to be pronunciation problems. "Jose might" could be one variation.
> > >> 
> > >> Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course, but
> > >> plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.
> > >
> > > Even if they don't know the national park, they almost certainly know 
> > > Yosemite Sam.
> > >
> > > Or does he have a different name in other countries?
> > 
> > The names are just code names. Who cares?
> 
> Apple has used them in their marketing of OS releases for years, they're 
> not just internal code names. Back when you bought the release on disks, 
> the package said "OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard", with a picture of the beast.

Following on from Yosemite (Sam) The next Mac OS will be called Tweety
... "I tawt I thaw a puddy tat".  ;-)

If they change over to full touchscreen / touchpad, then following the
animated character naming that version of the Mac OS could be
"Dangermouse".  ;-)

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#60062

In article <barmar-7363EC.12355903062014@news.eternal-september.org>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <538d282b$0$52735$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
>  Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
> > In article <billvan-7CBD08.16554402062014@news.shawcable.net>,
> > bill van  <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > [unneeded quotage deleted]
> > 
> > >Will it have the same name outside North America? If so, there are going 
> > >to be pronunciation problems. "Jose might" could be one variation.
> > 
> > Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course, but
> > plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.
> 
> Even if they don't know the national park, they almost certainly know 
> Yosemite Sam.
> 
> Or does he have a different name in other countries?

Possibly in non-English speaking countries. Maybe Apple should start
use regionalised names: Mac OS Fuji in Jpana, Mac OS Gold Coast in
Australia, Mac OS Tongariro in New Zealand, etc.   ;-) 

Yosemite Sam is not a well known character, especially among younger
generations used to watch garbage like Pokemon. A lot of (older) people
probably only know of Yellowstone in confusion with Yogi Bear's
fictionalised version Jellystone.

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#60066

On 2014.06.02, 21:43 , Patty Winter wrote:
> In article <billvan-7CBD08.16554402062014@news.shawcable.net>,
> bill van  <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> [unneeded quotage deleted]
>
>
>> Will it have the same name outside North America? If so, there are going
>> to be pronunciation problems. "Jose might" could be one variation.
>
> Yosemite is known around the world. Not by everyone, of course, but
> plenty of people will know exactly how to pronounce it.

Especially if they had their Bugs Bunny upbringing with the roughest, 
toughest, root'nest, toot'nest, fastest gun-slinger west of the Pecos!

-- 
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#59972

In message <billvan-7CBD08.16554402062014@news.shawcable.net> 
  bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
> In article <538ce1ef$0$52793$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
>  Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

>> In article <i_CdndcZovgYQhHOnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> Alan Browne  <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >You've all heard by now that 10.10 will be Yosemite.
>> 
>> I hadn't, but then, I hadn't gone looking for new from WWDC.
>> 
>> Anyway, cool name. :-)
>> 
> Will it have the same name outside North America? If so, there are going 
> to be pronunciation problems. "Jose might" could be one variation.

People will learn.

> Anyway, those names are getting very California-centric. Being neither a 
> surfer nor a Californian, I had to look up what Mavericks was about.

Yes, they said the names were going to be California names when they
announced Mavericks. The next 9 or 10 releases will be California names.

You will probably never see Weed or Death Valley, though.

-- 
I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea
is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both
of them together is certain death.

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#61092

On 2014-06-02 23:55:44 +0000, bill van said:

> In article <538ce1ef$0$52793$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
>  Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
> 
>> In article <i_CdndcZovgYQhHOnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> Alan Browne  <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You've all heard by now that 10.10 will be Yosemite.
>> 
>> I hadn't, but then, I hadn't gone looking for new from WWDC.
>> 
>> Anyway, cool name. :-)
>> 
> Will it have the same name outside North America? If so, there are going
> to be pronunciation problems. "Jose might" could be one variation.
> 
> Anyway, those names are getting very California-centric. Being neither a
> surfer nor a Californian, I had to look up what Mavericks was about.

Sadly it will come down to the Spanish-speaking world's initiative and 
technical ability to create an OS that they can pronounce properly.

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#61097

In article <lnsrhs$j16$1@dont-email.me>, Oregonian Haruspex
<bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2014-06-02 23:55:44 +0000, bill van said:
> 
> > In article <538ce1ef$0$52793$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> >  Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> In article <i_CdndcZovgYQhHOnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >> Alan Browne  <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> You've all heard by now that 10.10 will be Yosemite.
> >> 
> >> I hadn't, but then, I hadn't gone looking for new from WWDC.
> >> 
> >> Anyway, cool name. :-)
> >> 
> > Will it have the same name outside North America? If so, there are going
> > to be pronunciation problems. "Jose might" could be one variation.
> > 
> > Anyway, those names are getting very California-centric. Being neither a
> > surfer nor a Californian, I had to look up what Mavericks was about.
> 
> Sadly it will come down to the Spanish-speaking world's initiative and 
> technical ability to create an OS that they can pronounce properly.

I'm not sure the rest of the wrold would use an OS that takes a nap at
noon.  ;-)

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#59961

On 2014.06.02, 16:43 , Patty Winter wrote:
> In article <i_CdndcZovgYQhHOnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne  <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>> You've all heard by now that 10.10 will be Yosemite.
>
> I hadn't, but then, I hadn't gone looking for new from WWDC.
>
> Anyway, cool name. :-)

True.  It was my second guess from last year when Mavericks was 
announced.  First was Sequoia.  Perhaps next year will be water again.


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#60082

In article <538ce1ef$0$52793$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter
<patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
> In article <i_CdndcZovgYQhHOnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne  <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >
> >You've all heard by now that 10.10 will be Yosemite.
> 
> I hadn't, but then, I hadn't gone looking for new from WWDC.
> 
> Anyway, cool name. :-)

I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but from all the publicty and
keynote screenshots I've found so far, the "flattening" of Mac OS X has
removed the 3D Dock (or at least no it is longer the default).
http://www.macworld.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3522886/OSX-Yosemite-Mac.jpg

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#60091

On 2014-06-04 01:40:36 +0000, Your Name said:

> In article <538ce1ef$0$52793$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter
> <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
>> In article <i_CdndcZovgYQhHOnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> Alan Browne  <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You've all heard by now that 10.10 will be Yosemite.
>> 
>> I hadn't, but then, I hadn't gone looking for new from WWDC.
>> 
>> Anyway, cool name. :-)
> 
> I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but from all the publicty and
> keynote screenshots I've found so far, the "flattening" of Mac OS X has
> removed the 3D Dock (or at least no it is longer the default).
> http://www.macworld.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3522886/OSX-Yosemite-Mac.jpg

I noticed it but didn't give it much thought, still haven't.  I try not 
to get hung up on the trivialities.

-- 
Lloyd

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#60093

On 2014-06-04, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> On 2014-06-04 01:40:36 +0000, Your Name said:
>
>> In article <538ce1ef$0$52793$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter
>> <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
>>> In article <i_CdndcZovgYQhHOnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> Alan Browne  <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You've all heard by now that 10.10 will be Yosemite.
>>> 
>>> I hadn't, but then, I hadn't gone looking for new from WWDC.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, cool name. :-)
>> 
>> I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but from all the publicty and
>> keynote screenshots I've found so far, the "flattening" of Mac OS X has
>> removed the 3D Dock (or at least no it is longer the default).
>> http://www.macworld.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3522886/OSX-Yosemite-Mac.jpg
>
> I noticed it but didn't give it much thought, still haven't.  I try not 
> to get hung up on the trivialities.

Same here. Seems like a whole lot of people really care about things
like this. I couldn't care less what shade or color something is as long
as I can still get stuff done.

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#60098

In article <lmm2v9$chm$2@dont-email.me>, Lloyd  E Parsons
<lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> On 2014-06-04 01:40:36 +0000, Your Name said:
> > In article <538ce1ef$0$52793$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter
> > <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
> >> In article <i_CdndcZovgYQhHOnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >> Alan Browne  <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> You've all heard by now that 10.10 will be Yosemite.
> >> 
> >> I hadn't, but then, I hadn't gone looking for new from WWDC.
> >> 
> >> Anyway, cool name. :-)
> > 
> > I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but from all the publicty and
> > keynote screenshots I've found so far, the "flattening" of Mac OS X has
> > removed the 3D Dock (or at least no it is longer the default).
> > http://www.macworld.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3522886/OSX-Yosemite-Mac.jpg
> 
> I noticed it but didn't give it much thought, still haven't.  I try not 
> to get hung up on the trivialities.

We might have to start a "Bring back the 3D Dock" petition.  ;-)

Personally I don't care either, but there were people in here whining
on about how the persepctive was wrong and "annoying".

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#60125

On 2014-06-04 04:32:47 +0000, Your Name said:

> In article <lmm2v9$chm$2@dont-email.me>, Lloyd  E Parsons
> <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-06-04 01:40:36 +0000, Your Name said:
>>> In article <538ce1ef$0$52793$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter
>>> <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <i_CdndcZovgYQhHOnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>> Alan Browne  <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You've all heard by now that 10.10 will be Yosemite.
>>>> 
>>>> I hadn't, but then, I hadn't gone looking for new from WWDC.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, cool name. :-)
>>> 
>>> I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but from all the publicty and
>>> keynote screenshots I've found so far, the "flattening" of Mac OS X has
>>> removed the 3D Dock (or at least no it is longer the default).
>>> http://www.macworld.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3522886/OSX-Yosemite-Mac.jpg
>> 
>> I noticed it but didn't give it much thought, still haven't.  I try not
>> to get hung up on the trivialities.
> 
> We might have to start a "Bring back the 3D Dock" petition.  ;-)
> 
> Personally I don't care either, but there were people in here whining
> on about how the persepctive was wrong and "annoying".

I complained when iOS7 came out almost entirely because of the over use 
of pastels.  My aging eyes need a bit more contrast, especially on the 
very small phone screens.  Since then I had cataract surgery and it 
doesn't bother me as much, but if I had my druthers, I'd druther have 
more contrast.

The dock has changed over the years a few times and just isn't an issue to me.

-- 
Lloyd

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