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| Started by | Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> |
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| First post | 2015-06-03 23:35 +0200 |
| Last post | 2015-06-07 22:52 +0200 |
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American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2015-06-03 23:35 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-03 17:46 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-03 21:49 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 09:06 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 06:17 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-06-04 10:05 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 07:23 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-04 09:54 -0500
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 11:58 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 07:48 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 08:47 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 12:31 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 10:19 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 13:42 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 10:56 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-05 13:18 -0500
Turdv, the communist party leader. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 14:36 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 14:52 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 12:24 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 17:12 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 17:33 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-06 01:25 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 10:58 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-05 22:52 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 20:25 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-06 08:39 +0000
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-06-06 11:10 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-07 15:22 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 06:38 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-07 16:43 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-06-05 14:09 -0500
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted
communications by extremists" Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-06-05 22:17 +0300
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-06 06:59 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 13:18 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Fred Newman" <frednewman@guessmyemail.com> - 2015-06-05 03:01 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 10:07 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-04 20:19 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-06-05 02:22 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-04 23:09 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Riley <rileyhumbert.us@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 05:25 +0100
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-06-05 08:48 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 07:04 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 07:50 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 08:48 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-05 18:00 +0100
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 11:34 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 13:19 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 14:35 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 11:18 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-05 09:10 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 14:33 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 13:35 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-05 17:35 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 20:52 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-06 10:31 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 12:06 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-06 12:55 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 13:59 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-06 14:08 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-07 22:12 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Info <info@dunasesmeralda.com> - 2015-06-07 05:55 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-07 19:15 +0000
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-06 07:50 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-06-06 18:07 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-06 09:51 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-06 13:39 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-07 20:37 +0000
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 12:04 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-07 21:50 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-06 02:11 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-06 10:47 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 08:02 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-06 11:10 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 13:47 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-06-07 00:22 +0000
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-07 15:51 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2015-06-08 06:07 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-06-07 22:24 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 12:02 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 13:48 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-06 11:10 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 15:57 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-06 15:25 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-06 18:19 +0000
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 13:56 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-07 01:02 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 16:18 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-06 21:43 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-06 19:21 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-06 19:33 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 21:27 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 07:52 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 06:51 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-05 21:30 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 18:33 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-04 22:49 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 20:13 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Westgate <westgateserv@zoho.com> - 2015-06-05 05:24 +0100
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 06:52 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 10:40 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 07:54 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Info <info@dunasesmeralda.com> - 2015-06-05 11:32 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ryan Johnson" <everyone@mediamatters.org> - 2015-06-05 22:12 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 08:52 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 10:05 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 10:18 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 12:01 -0700
Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-04 13:54 -0700
Re: Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 17:30 -0400
Re: Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 19:08 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 13:57 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 17:34 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 17:40 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 18:24 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 22:26 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 20:09 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-05 02:39 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 07:01 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 10:42 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 08:44 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 08:48 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 09:21 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-06-05 13:30 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 10:49 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-06-05 13:53 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 10:58 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-05 13:06 -0500
But Turdv IS a LIAR and documented. The guy with his imaginary BSEE. LOL!!! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 14:28 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 11:23 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 13:21 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 12:33 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-05 17:58 +0100
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 13:32 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-05 22:00 +0100
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 17:24 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-06-06 00:24 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-06-05 18:42 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 23:37 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 20:44 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-06-06 10:07 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 12:01 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-06 11:57 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-06 17:21 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-06 23:30 +0100
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-06 03:51 +0000
fear peddlers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-06-05 19:50 -0400
Re: fear peddlers Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-06-06 03:13 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 11:36 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-05 06:33 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-04 21:57 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-05 18:24 +0000
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 11:33 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-06 06:10 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 22:43 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 17:08 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 11:07 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-06-05 11:20 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 12:27 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 14:08 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-06 05:32 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 17:20 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 17:34 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-06-05 07:44 +0000
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 07:05 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-06-06 01:13 +0000
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 18:21 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-05 20:01 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 11:33 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-06 06:21 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-05 22:40 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 12:20 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-06-05 19:52 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-06-06 06:13 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-06 06:26 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-06-05 21:35 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-06 10:44 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 17:19 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 17:36 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-06-04 18:48 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 19:01 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 10:13 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 13:42 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 11:08 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-04 14:03 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-06-04 13:54 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 17:26 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 17:19 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 06:59 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-05 07:06 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 17:22 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-04 21:08 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-05 05:59 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 07:00 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 12:12 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 10:48 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-04 22:45 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 11:17 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-05 09:08 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-05 12:41 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-05 17:34 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-05 17:37 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-05 18:14 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-06-05 21:20 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-05 23:41 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-06-05 13:57 -0600
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-05 22:06 +0100
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-05 14:44 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-05 22:48 +0100
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-05 15:07 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-05 15:43 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2015-06-06 06:27 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-06-09 09:35 -0700
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-04 08:18 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-06-04 21:19 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-06-05 10:35 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous Remailer <remailer@domain.invalid> - 2015-06-04 12:10 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-06-05 02:39 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-06-07 12:17 +0000
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-07 09:50 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-06-07 10:05 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-06-07 11:26 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-06-07 10:17 -0400
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-06-06 03:11 +0200
Re: American liberal fear peddlers, "US officials warn of encrypted communications by extremists" Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2015-06-07 22:52 +0200
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| From | tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> |
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| Date | 2015-06-05 07:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.1B21EF9900111589119EA73CF@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #76179 |
On Jun 4, 2015, Jack Ryan wrote (in article<233bd75f8a506ec9143d3121098328da@remailer.cpunk.us>): > In article<040620151833327023%michelle@michelle.org> > Michelle Steiner<michelle@michelle.org>wrote: > > > > In article<a39015a78364f22bfc79d841cecd04c5@remailer.cpunk.us>, Jack > > Ryan<noreply@remailer.cpunk.us>wrote: > > > > > In article<040620150617005405%michelle@michelle.org> > > > Michelle Steiner<michelle@michelle.org>wrote: > > > > > > > > In article<mkpien$si1$4@dont-email.me>, Slimer<slvrslmr@lv.c>wrote: > > > > > > > > > Liberalism is what has caused two men to be arrested for "manspreading" > > > > > in New York > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://nyc.suntimes.com/nyc-news/7/86/208377/two-men-arrested-in-nyc-for > > > > > - > > > > > mans > > > > > preading-on-the-subway>. > > > > > > > > Actually, it's more likely the result of conservatism. > > > > > > Conservatives have manners and are generally better educated and > > > more intelligent than liberals. > > > > Got any evidence to support that statement? > > Who needs evidence to support visible facts? Conservatives are > employed and working. Liberals are rooming like rats or living > in their cars - because they have no effective useful working > skills, and nobody wants their disruptive ignorant presence next > to them. Are you trolling or just retarded?This is probably one of the stupidest things I’ve read on any of the usenet groups.Seriously, just tear of your voter registration card and shove it up your ass.That might actually stop your posting of stupid shit. -- "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
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| From | Info <info@dunasesmeralda.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-05 11:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <8514ae5cb85135a59af883a50b6c6846@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> |
| In reply to | #76152 |
In article <a39015a78364f22bfc79d841cecd04c5@remailer.cpunk.us> Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> wrote: > > In article <040620150617005405%michelle@michelle.org> > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > > In article <mkpien$si1$4@dont-email.me>, Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > > > > > Liberalism is what has caused two men to be arrested for "manspreading" > > > in New York > > > > > > <http://nyc.suntimes.com/nyc-news/7/86/208377/two-men-arrested-in-nyc-for-mans > > > preading-on-the-subway>. > > > > Actually, it's more likely the result of conservatism. > > Conservatives have manners and are generally better educated and > more intelligent than liberals. Bullshit!
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| From | "Ryan Johnson" <everyone@mediamatters.org> |
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| Date | 2015-06-05 22:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <bfb94e3f813b3857af3127c712169ef1@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #76207 |
In article <8514ae5cb85135a59af883a50b6c6846@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> Info <info@dunasesmeralda.com> wrote: > > In article <a39015a78364f22bfc79d841cecd04c5@remailer.cpunk.us> > Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> wrote: > > > > In article <040620150617005405%michelle@michelle.org> > > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > > > > In article <mkpien$si1$4@dont-email.me>, Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > > > > > > > Liberalism is what has caused two men to be arrested for "manspreading" > > > > in New York > > > > > > > > <http://nyc.suntimes.com/nyc-news/7/86/208377/two-men-arrested-in-nyc-for-mans > > > > preading-on-the-subway>. > > > > > > Actually, it's more likely the result of conservatism. > > > > Conservatives have manners and are generally better educated and > > more intelligent than liberals. > > Bullshit! Baltimore = 50 years of democrats. Baltimore = liberals. Detroit = 90 years of democrats. Detroit = liberals. Want to keep going?
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 08:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D195C24C.4CC25%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #76104 |
On 6/4/15, 6:06 AM, in article mkpien$si1$4@dont-email.me, "Slimer" <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > On 2015-06-04 12:49 AM, Snit wrote: >> On 6/3/15, 2:46 PM, in article mknshu$gmv$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer" >> <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: >> >>>> John Mulligan, the deputy director of the National >>>> Counterterrorism Center, testified that one of the two men >>>> involved in an attempted terror attack in Garland, Texas, last >>>> month urged fellow Islamic State supporters before the shooting >>>> to move their communications to private Twitter messages. Those >>>> men, Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi, were shot by police outside >>>> a provocative Prophet Mohammed cartoon contest. No one else was >>>> killed. >>>> >>>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/03/us-officials-warn- >>>> encrypted-communications-by-extremists/?intcmp=trending >>> >>> I agree with you that liberalism, in general, is destroying your country >>> and mine as a consequence. You know there's a big problem when American >>> society is more concerned with Bruce Jenner turning into a woman than >>> the Trans-Pacific Partnership or the Freedom Act. The fall of the >>> American Empire is coming and honestly, I doubt that Americans >>> themselves will even notice. >> >> What does that lack of concern have to do with liberalism? > > Liberalism is what has caused two men to be arrested for "manspreading" > in New York > <http://nyc.suntimes.com/nyc-news/7/86/208377/two-men-arrested-in-nyc-for-mans > preading-on-the-subway>. > It is also the origin of fat pride, where grossly overweight women show > themselves off as if they were appealing in some way or another. In > other words, liberalism is what allows for people to go against their > instincts and become as idiotic as possible. I have heard this story... but do not know who has pushed for such laws, no less their political views, nor of those who are making the arrests. And no matter their political leanings I would not attribute their views to others who have similarities in general political view. -- * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 10:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015060410052834327-xxx@yyyzzz> |
| In reply to | #76093 |
On 2015-06-04 04:49:07 +0000, Snit said: >> I agree with you that liberalism, in general, is destroying your country >> and mine as a consequence. You know there's a big problem when American >> society is more concerned with Bruce Jenner turning into a woman than >> the Trans-Pacific Partnership or the Freedom Act. The fall of the >> American Empire is coming and honestly, I doubt that Americans >> themselves will even notice. > > What does that lack of concern have to do with liberalism? It's a simple calculation. 1) All things are bad and getting worse. 2) All fault resides with Liberals. We should concentrate only on the most important things for America: Fear, worry and hatred. Everything else is liberal. Christianity use to be about love and forgiveness; liberal poison. Now it's about hating abortionists, fearing our children will be converted to homosexuality, and worry that our tenuous world will be destroyed if the very wealthy aren't awarded a bigger piece of the pie.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 10:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D195D68A.4CC56%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #76114 |
On 6/4/15, 10:05 AM, in article 2015060410052834327-xxx@yyyzzz, "gtr" <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote: > On 2015-06-04 04:49:07 +0000, Snit said: > >>> I agree with you that liberalism, in general, is destroying your country >>> and mine as a consequence. You know there's a big problem when American >>> society is more concerned with Bruce Jenner turning into a woman than >>> the Trans-Pacific Partnership or the Freedom Act. The fall of the >>> American Empire is coming and honestly, I doubt that Americans >>> themselves will even notice. >> >> What does that lack of concern have to do with liberalism? > > It's a simple calculation. 1) All things are bad and getting worse. > 2) All fault resides with Liberals. I see this a lot. Does not matter what the problem is, the right wing will blame the left. Also happens the other direction but not to the extent... and frankly the right wing *is* more to blame for many things: * pollution, including green house gasses * wealth redistribution to the rich * laws pushing religion onto others, including anti-gay and anti-woman laws Etc. > We should concentrate only on the most important things for America: > Fear, worry and hatred. Everything else is liberal. Conservatives are more fear based - multiple studies have shown that. > Christianity use to be about love and forgiveness; liberal poison. Now > it's about hating abortionists, fearing our children will be converted > to homosexuality, and worry that our tenuous world will be destroyed if > the very wealthy aren't awarded a bigger piece of the pie. An exception is the current Pope. He is amazing. I never thought I would see a Pope who is as, well, traditionally *Christian* as he is. -- * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 12:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <040620151201386113%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #76118 |
In article <D195D68A.4CC56%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > > Christianity use to be about love and forgiveness; liberal poison. > > Now it's about hating abortionists, fearing our children will be > > converted to homosexuality, and worry that our tenuous world will > > be destroyed if the very wealthy aren't awarded a bigger piece of > > the pie. > > An exception is the current Pope. He is amazing. I never thought I > would see a Pope who is as, well, traditionally *Christian* as he is. Rick Santorum said that the Pope should leave science to scientists (with regards to global climate change). There are two problems with this: 1. Something like 95% of scientists who have any expertise in the subject say that humanity is a major contributor to global climate change. 2. The Pope is a scientist; he has a Masters degree in chemistry.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 13:54 -0700 |
| Subject | Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4{1.54P.Seattle.2015}> |
| In reply to | #76129 |
Speaking of human·induced global warming, Michelle·Steiner wrote: > Rick Santorum said that the Pope should leave science to scientists > (with regards to global climate change). > There are two problems with this: > > 1. Something like 95% of scientists who have > any expertise in the subject say that > humanity is a major contributor to global climate change. > > 2. The Pope is a scientist; he has a Masters degree in chemistry. Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! Currently, there are about USD $550 billion in fossil fuel subsidies annually, worldwide.
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| From | Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 17:30 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! |
| Message-ID | <mkqfvf$jhv$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76133 |
On 2015-06-04 4:54 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > Speaking of human·induced global warming, Michelle·Steiner wrote: >> Rick Santorum said that the Pope should leave science to scientists >> (with regards to global climate change). >> There are two problems with this: >> >> 1. Something like 95% of scientists who have >> any expertise in the subject say that >> humanity is a major contributor to global climate change. >> >> 2. The Pope is a scientist; he has a Masters degree in chemistry. > > Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! > > Currently, there are about USD $550 billion > in fossil fuel subsidies annually, worldwide. With a masters in Economics, my wife has assured me that the fossil fuel model works because it indeed encourages people to use fewer fossil fuels to avoid tax penalties. I, on the other hand, am very strongly opposed to yet another tax, regardless of how effective it is said to be. Improve alternative fuels or electric cars and I'll be on-board. As far as I know, other than range, the biggest issue with electric cars is the fact that the battery loses its efficiency over time. Considering how expensive the battery is, this is a pretty good issue. -- Slimer Encrypt. "Figuring that linux has only 1.5% of any market share as a desktop os, it also implies that the end user is stupid enough to fiddle with an old WWII bomb that didn't go off." - GreyCloud
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 19:08 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! |
| Message-ID | <D19652BC.4CD0B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #76142 |
On 6/4/15, 2:30 PM, in article mkqfvf$jhv$3@dont-email.me, "Slimer" <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: >>> 1. Something like 95% of scientists who have >>> any expertise in the subject say that >>> humanity is a major contributor to global climate change. >>> >>> 2. The Pope is a scientist; he has a Masters degree in chemistry. >> >> Would a "carbon tax" would benefit the poor ?! >> >> Currently, there are about USD $550 billion >> in fossil fuel subsidies annually, worldwide. > > With a masters in Economics, my wife has assured me that the fossil fuel > model works because it indeed encourages people to use fewer fossil > fuels to avoid tax penalties. I, on the other hand, am very strongly > opposed to yet another tax, regardless of how effective it is said to > be. Improve alternative fuels or electric cars and I'll be on-board. > > As far as I know, other than range, the biggest issue with electric cars > is the fact that the battery loses its efficiency over time. Considering > how expensive the battery is, this is a pretty good issue. To me it makes sense to have the cost of the fossil fuel added to the cost of the product and to *stop* socializing / communizing the costs and risks of it. -- * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 13:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D19609AC.4CCB3%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #76129 |
On 6/4/15, 12:01 PM, in article 040620151201386113%michelle@michelle.org, "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <D195D68A.4CC56%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit > <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > >>> Christianity use to be about love and forgiveness; liberal poison. >>> Now it's about hating abortionists, fearing our children will be >>> converted to homosexuality, and worry that our tenuous world will >>> be destroyed if the very wealthy aren't awarded a bigger piece of >>> the pie. >> >> An exception is the current Pope. He is amazing. I never thought I >> would see a Pope who is as, well, traditionally *Christian* as he is. > > Rick Santorum said that the Pope should leave science to scientists > (with regards to global climate change). There are two problems with > this: > > 1. Something like 95% of scientists who have any expertise in the > subject say that humanity is a major contributor to global climate > change. Depends on who you count as relevant scientists, but, yeah, the percentage is that high or higher. When you look at scientific papers it nears 100% and when you look at scientific organizations with a stance it *is* 100%. > 2. The Pope is a scientist; he has a Masters degree in chemistry. Exactly. I did not know that before this recent silliness... makes it even more funny. -- * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 17:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mkqg6a$ldn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76135 |
On 2015-06-04 4:57 PM, Snit wrote: > On 6/4/15, 12:01 PM, in article 040620151201386113%michelle@michelle.org, > "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > >> In article <D195D68A.4CC56%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit >> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >> >>>> Christianity use to be about love and forgiveness; liberal poison. >>>> Now it's about hating abortionists, fearing our children will be >>>> converted to homosexuality, and worry that our tenuous world will >>>> be destroyed if the very wealthy aren't awarded a bigger piece of >>>> the pie. >>> >>> An exception is the current Pope. He is amazing. I never thought I >>> would see a Pope who is as, well, traditionally *Christian* as he is. >> >> Rick Santorum said that the Pope should leave science to scientists >> (with regards to global climate change). There are two problems with >> this: >> >> 1. Something like 95% of scientists who have any expertise in the >> subject say that humanity is a major contributor to global climate >> change. > > Depends on who you count as relevant scientists, but, yeah, the percentage > is that high or higher. When you look at scientific papers it nears 100% and > when you look at scientific organizations with a stance it *is* 100%. Which begs the question: what have YOU done as a result of this knowledge? In my case, I'm ready and willing to switch my car over to an electric one once it becomes viable. >> 2. The Pope is a scientist; he has a Masters degree in chemistry. > > Exactly. I did not know that before this recent silliness... makes it even > more funny. It IS interesting. You can't help but respect the man for his achievement. -- Slimer Encrypt. "Figuring that linux has only 1.5% of any market share as a desktop os, it also implies that the end user is stupid enough to fiddle with an old WWII bomb that didn't go off." - GreyCloud
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 17:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D1963E02.4CCE8%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #76143 |
On 6/4/15, 2:34 PM, in article mkqg6a$ldn$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer" <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > On 2015-06-04 4:57 PM, Snit wrote: >> On 6/4/15, 12:01 PM, in article 040620151201386113%michelle@michelle.org, >> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: >> >>> In article <D195D68A.4CC56%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit >>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> Christianity use to be about love and forgiveness; liberal poison. >>>>> Now it's about hating abortionists, fearing our children will be >>>>> converted to homosexuality, and worry that our tenuous world will >>>>> be destroyed if the very wealthy aren't awarded a bigger piece of >>>>> the pie. >>>> >>>> An exception is the current Pope. He is amazing. I never thought I >>>> would see a Pope who is as, well, traditionally *Christian* as he is. >>> >>> Rick Santorum said that the Pope should leave science to scientists >>> (with regards to global climate change). There are two problems with >>> this: >>> >>> 1. Something like 95% of scientists who have any expertise in the >>> subject say that humanity is a major contributor to global climate >>> change. >> >> Depends on who you count as relevant scientists, but, yeah, the percentage >> is that high or higher. When you look at scientific papers it nears 100% and >> when you look at scientific organizations with a stance it *is* 100%. > > Which begs the question: what have YOU done as a result of this > knowledge? In my case, I'm ready and willing to switch my car over to an > electric one once it becomes viable. I do what I reasonably can to reduce my harm while maintaining a decent standard of living by modern standards... but the change has to be systematic, not just individual. >>> 2. The Pope is a scientist; he has a Masters degree in chemistry. >> >> Exactly. I did not know that before this recent silliness... makes it even >> more funny. > > It IS interesting. You can't help but respect the man for his achievement. True... and I do. -- * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 18:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <040620151824213975%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #76143 |
In article <mkqg6a$ldn$1@dont-email.me>, Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > > Depends on who you count as relevant scientists, but, yeah, the percentage > > is that high or higher. When you look at scientific papers it nears 100% and > > when you look at scientific organizations with a stance it *is* 100%. > > Which begs the question: what have YOU done as a result of this > knowledge? In my case, I'm ready and willing to switch my car over to an > electric one once it becomes viable. I've been driving a hybrid car for about 131 months, and I'll replace it with another hybrid or an electric (If I can afford it) when it becomes unsafe to drive it any more. Also, I had solar panels installed on my rooftop last August; they've generated more electricity than I've used for all save three months so far, and in those three months, my overage was minuscule.
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| From | Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 22:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mkr19e$2ju$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76165 |
On 2015-06-04 9:24 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote: > In article <mkqg6a$ldn$1@dont-email.me>, Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > >>> Depends on who you count as relevant scientists, but, yeah, the percentage >>> is that high or higher. When you look at scientific papers it nears 100% and >>> when you look at scientific organizations with a stance it *is* 100%. >> >> Which begs the question: what have YOU done as a result of this >> knowledge? In my case, I'm ready and willing to switch my car over to an >> electric one once it becomes viable. > > I've been driving a hybrid car for about 131 months, and I'll replace > it with another hybrid or an electric (If I can afford it) when it > becomes unsafe to drive it any more. Also, I had solar panels > installed on my rooftop last August; they've generated more electricity > than I've used for all save three months so far, and in those three > months, my overage was minuscule. I'm curious where you live. I'd love to have an electric or a hybrid car myself but I'm not entirely sure that my climate is adequate for it (I live in Quebec). Also, I'm not sure how much solar panels would do for me here considering three quarters of our year is filled with snow. -- Slimer Encrypt. "Figuring that linux has only 1.5% of any market share as a desktop os, it also implies that the end user is stupid enough to fiddle with an old WWII bomb that didn't go off." - GreyCloud
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-06-04 20:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <040620152009232099%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #76176 |
In article <mkr19e$2ju$3@dont-email.me>, Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > > I've been driving a hybrid car for about 131 months, and I'll replace > > it with another hybrid or an electric (If I can afford it) when it > > becomes unsafe to drive it any more. Also, I had solar panels > > installed on my rooftop last August; they've generated more electricity > > than I've used for all save three months so far, and in those three > > months, my overage was minuscule. > > I'm curious where you live. I'd love to have an electric or a hybrid car > myself but I'm not entirely sure that my climate is adequate for it (I > live in Quebec). Also, I'm not sure how much solar panels would do for > me here considering three quarters of our year is filled with snow. I live in the desert Southwest area of the USA.
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| From | Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> |
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| Date | 2015-06-05 02:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <9046ae30ff9fc2a914dadac58b8085ce@remailer.cpunk.us> |
| In reply to | #76180 |
In article <040620152009232099%michelle@michelle.org> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > In article <mkr19e$2ju$3@dont-email.me>, Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > > > > I've been driving a hybrid car for about 131 months, and I'll replace > > > it with another hybrid or an electric (If I can afford it) when it > > > becomes unsafe to drive it any more. Also, I had solar panels > > > installed on my rooftop last August; they've generated more electricity > > > than I've used for all save three months so far, and in those three > > > months, my overage was minuscule. > > > > I'm curious where you live. I'd love to have an electric or a hybrid car > > myself but I'm not entirely sure that my climate is adequate for it (I > > live in Quebec). Also, I'm not sure how much solar panels would do for > > me here considering three quarters of our year is filled with snow. > > I live in the desert Southwest area of the USA. You live in Arizona.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-06-05 07:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <050620150701128751%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #76199 |
In article <9046ae30ff9fc2a914dadac58b8085ce@remailer.cpunk.us>, Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> wrote: > In article <040620152009232099%michelle@michelle.org> > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > > In article <mkr19e$2ju$3@dont-email.me>, Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > > > > > > I've been driving a hybrid car for about 131 months, and I'll replace > > > > it with another hybrid or an electric (If I can afford it) when it > > > > becomes unsafe to drive it any more. Also, I had solar panels > > > > installed on my rooftop last August; they've generated more electricity > > > > than I've used for all save three months so far, and in those three > > > > months, my overage was minuscule. > > > > > > I'm curious where you live. I'd love to have an electric or a hybrid car > > > myself but I'm not entirely sure that my climate is adequate for it (I > > > live in Quebec). Also, I'm not sure how much solar panels would do for > > > me here considering three quarters of our year is filled with snow. > > > > I live in the desert Southwest area of the USA. > > You live in Arizona. Part of which is in the desert Southwest area of the USA; my reply is more descriptive of the area, especially in the context of the question I was asked.
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| From | Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
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| Date | 2015-06-05 10:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mksce0$hrq$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76180 |
On 2015-06-04 11:09 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote: > In article <mkr19e$2ju$3@dont-email.me>, Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > >>> I've been driving a hybrid car for about 131 months, and I'll replace >>> it with another hybrid or an electric (If I can afford it) when it >>> becomes unsafe to drive it any more. Also, I had solar panels >>> installed on my rooftop last August; they've generated more electricity >>> than I've used for all save three months so far, and in those three >>> months, my overage was minuscule. >> >> I'm curious where you live. I'd love to have an electric or a hybrid car >> myself but I'm not entirely sure that my climate is adequate for it (I >> live in Quebec). Also, I'm not sure how much solar panels would do for >> me here considering three quarters of our year is filled with snow. > > I live in the desert Southwest area of the USA. I assume that the weather prevents the battery from discharging too quickly in the car and since you're constantly in the sun, the solar panels are incredibly effective. If I lived in that scenario, I would gladly make the investment into solar panels. As for the car, I have to wonder: what kind is it, what is your range, how long have you had it, how quickly does the battery's capacity reduce? Thanks in advance. -- Slimer Encrypt. "Figuring that linux has only 1.5% of any market share as a desktop os, it also implies that the end user is stupid enough to fiddle with an old WWII bomb that didn't go off." - GreyCloud
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-06-05 08:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <050620150844481686%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #76221 |
In article <mksce0$hrq$2@dont-email.me>, Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > > I live in the desert Southwest area of the USA. > > I assume that the weather prevents the battery from discharging too > quickly in the car and since you're constantly in the sun, the solar > panels are incredibly effective. If I lived in that scenario, I would > gladly make the investment into solar panels. > > As for the car, I have to wonder: what kind is it, what is your range, > how long have you had it, how quickly does the battery's capacity reduce? It's a hybrid, not an electric car; I have had it since July 22, 2004. Time and temperature have taken its toll, though. I used to get about 48 MPG year round in normal city driving in a mixture of street and freeway driving. I'd get 53 going from Vegas to Phoenix, but about 50 from Phoenix to Vegas. Vegas is uphill from Phoenix. Now, I'm getting about 44 on the average and about 3-4 MPG lower on long freeway trips than I used to get.
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