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  Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-08-04 12:33 -0400
    Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2012-08-04 11:30 -0600
      Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-04 14:14 -0400
        Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-04 16:15 -0400
          Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2012-08-05 13:00 +1200
            Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-05 08:38 -0400
              Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2012-08-06 09:11 +1200
                Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-08-06 12:42 +0200
              Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-06 03:47 +0000
                Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-06 07:15 -0400
                  Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-06 14:41 +0000
                    Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-06 11:08 -0400
                Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-08-06 17:13 -0400
                  Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-06 21:49 +0000
                    Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-06 19:15 -0400
                      Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-07 04:32 +0000
                        Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-07 22:41 -0400
                          Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-08 00:09 -0400
                          Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-08 04:34 +0000
                            Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-08 22:12 -0400
                    Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-08-07 10:16 -0400
                      Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-08-07 10:37 -0700
        Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-08-04 19:20 -0700
        Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-05 03:42 +0000
    Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2012-08-05 13:00 +1200
      Re: Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-08-06 17:14 -0400

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#28948 — Changing AppleID on Transferred Machines

I have next to no experience with the App Store (Mac or iOS). In 
preparation for setting up several new Macs and upgrading several 
existing Macs to 10.8, I need to better understand how the AppleID works 
in an *organization*.

For 10.8, you must have an AppleID, right?, because it's used to 
register downloaded apps and upgrade system software. In an organization 
where different people may change jobs and move to or 'inherit' 
different computers, what's the best way to setup the AppleID **so it 
can be transferred to the new user** of a computer?

When you set up an AppleID, you're asked for a name and email address. 
Should one enter something like 'Dept ABC Machine N' with 
'arealemail@address.com'? As long as the email address is valid, it 
should deliver email regardless of the name specified; and the email 
address can be changed when needed. The point is to NOT tie the computer 
and installation to a specific person, but a part of the organization. 

But what about an old machine with an existing AppleID that's been tied 
to a specific person? What's the best way to make that 
person-independent when upgrading to 10.8?

Thanks for your input.

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#28950

Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> I have next to no experience with the App Store (Mac or iOS). In 
> preparation for setting up several new Macs and upgrading several 
> existing Macs to 10.8, I need to better understand how the AppleID works
> in an *organization*.
> 
> For 10.8, you must have an AppleID, right?, because it's used to 
> register downloaded apps and upgrade system software. In an organization
> where different people may change jobs and move to or 'inherit' 
> different computers, what's the best way to setup the AppleID **so it
> can be transferred to the new user** of a computer?
> 
> When you set up an AppleID, you're asked for a name and email address.
> Should one enter something like 'Dept ABC Machine N' with 
> 'arealemail@address.com'? As long as the email address is valid, it 
> should deliver email regardless of the name specified; and the email 
> address can be changed when needed. The point is to NOT tie the computer
> and installation to a specific person, but a part of the organization.
> 
> But what about an old machine with an existing AppleID that's been tied
> to a specific person? What's the best way to make that 
> person-independent when upgrading to 10.8?

From the Apple ID FAQ:

"You shouldn't share your Apple ID account information with other
people. Each person should have their own Apple ID." 

<http://support.apple.com/kb/HE37>

To find out if organizations may have Apple IDs, contact support. 

<http://www.apple.com/support/appleid/contact/>

My guess is they'll tell you that an Apple ID may not be used as a
substitute for a site license. 

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#28958

Neill Massello:
> From the Apple ID FAQ:
> 
> "You shouldn't share your Apple ID account information with other
> people. Each person should have their own Apple ID." 
> 
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HE37>

Nonsense, Apple. You don't expect my wife and I to have different Apple
IDs so that we have to buy each iOS app, each movie, each song twice.
That's why you let us share content on five Macs with the same Apple
ID, regardless of the administrator ID of the Mac user.
 
> To find out if organizations may have Apple IDs, contact support. 
> 
> <http://www.apple.com/support/appleid/contact/>
> 
> My guess is they'll tell you that an Apple ID may not be used as a
> substitute for a site license.

Except in the home, as noted above. And intended or not, it could work
as a five-machine site license so long as the password was changed
every time someone left the group.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#28970

In article <040820121414528136%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> Neill Massello:
> > From the Apple ID FAQ:
> > 
> > "You shouldn't share your Apple ID account information with other
> > people. Each person should have their own Apple ID." 
> > 
> > <http://support.apple.com/kb/HE37>
> 
> Nonsense, Apple. You don't expect my wife and I to have different Apple
> IDs so that we have to buy each iOS app, each movie, each song twice.
> That's why you let us share content on five Macs with the same Apple
> ID, regardless of the administrator ID of the Mac user.
 My wife and I have separate Apple IDs. I have logged in with mine on 
her Mac Mini to install apps I have purchased, same with content. This 
has not caused a problem and when she logs back in the apps or content 
under my acc don't deactivate they work fine. YMMV. I don't know does 
this let us have a ten Mac Limit? I think not I think I can put my 
Apps/content on five machines. I don't know why we have separate Apple 
IDs just the way it happened. I love that the App store keeps a record 
of the Apps I have purchased so I can just reinstall them as needed by 
just signing in.

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#28984

John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:

> In article <040820121414528136%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Neill Massello:
> > > From the Apple ID FAQ:
> > > 
> > > "You shouldn't share your Apple ID account information with other
> > > people. Each person should have their own Apple ID." 
> > > 
> > > <http://support.apple.com/kb/HE37>
> > 
> > Nonsense, Apple. You don't expect my wife and I to have different Apple
> > IDs so that we have to buy each iOS app, each movie, each song twice.
> > That's why you let us share content on five Macs with the same Apple
> > ID, regardless of the administrator ID of the Mac user.
>  My wife and I have separate Apple IDs. I have logged in with mine on
> her Mac Mini to install apps I have purchased, same with content. This
> has not caused a problem and when she logs back in the apps or content
> under my acc don't deactivate they work fine. YMMV. I don't know does
> this let us have a ten Mac Limit?

There is no such thing as a limit of five Macs for App Store purchases.

For personal use, the licence agreement permits App Store purchases
(including operating systems) to be used on every Mac you own or
control. (For business use, there are two options: single installation
on a computer shared by several people, or unlimited installation on
computers used by a single person.)

It is somewhat vague what Apple means in the case of a family, e.g.
where the husband and wife each have their own computers, but in a legal
sense they are most likely to be collectively owned, therefore it is
valid to install apps on both which were purchased under a single Apple
ID.

There are technical reasons why it may be useful for two people in a
family to each have their own Apple ID, e.g. iCloud sync if they don't
want everything on their devices to be identical.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#29012

In article <1kocsbg.1k91t6t1pkoxxxN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>,
 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:

> John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:
> 
> > In article <040820121414528136%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Neill Massello:
> > > > From the Apple ID FAQ:
> > > > 
> > > > "You shouldn't share your Apple ID account information with other
> > > > people. Each person should have their own Apple ID." 
> > > > 
> > > > <http://support.apple.com/kb/HE37>
> > > 
> > > Nonsense, Apple. You don't expect my wife and I to have different Apple
> > > IDs so that we have to buy each iOS app, each movie, each song twice.
> > > That's why you let us share content on five Macs with the same Apple
> > > ID, regardless of the administrator ID of the Mac user.
> >  My wife and I have separate Apple IDs. I have logged in with mine on
> > her Mac Mini to install apps I have purchased, same with content. This
> > has not caused a problem and when she logs back in the apps or content
> > under my acc don't deactivate they work fine. YMMV. I don't know does
> > this let us have a ten Mac Limit?
> 
> There is no such thing as a limit of five Macs for App Store purchases.

I guess thats for content not apps...again you are correct.
How do you remember all this stuff or do you do a lot of looking up for 
you answers? I could never remember details the way you do!
Thanks I like your answers because I can count on them being correct so 
don't have to double check anything.
  
> For personal use, the licence agreement permits App Store purchases
> (including operating systems) to be used on every Mac you own or
> control. (For business use, there are two options: single installation
> on a computer shared by several people, or unlimited installation on
> computers used by a single person.)
> 
> It is somewhat vague what Apple means in the case of a family, e.g.
> where the husband and wife each have their own computers, but in a legal
> sense they are most likely to be collectively owned, therefore it is
> valid to install apps on both which were purchased under a single Apple
> ID.
> 
> There are technical reasons why it may be useful for two people in a
> family to each have their own Apple ID, e.g. iCloud sync if they don't
> want everything on their devices to be identical.

Yes iCloud use is the best reason for my wife and myself to have 
separate Apple IDs. We both use iCloud so one ID would not work.

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#29027

John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:

> In article <1kocsbg.1k91t6t1pkoxxxN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>,
>  dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:
> 
> > John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <040820121414528136%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Neill Massello:
> > > > > From the Apple ID FAQ:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "You shouldn't share your Apple ID account information with other
> > > > > people. Each person should have their own Apple ID." 
> > > > > 
> > > > > <http://support.apple.com/kb/HE37>
> > > > 
> > > > Nonsense, Apple. You don't expect my wife and I to have different Apple
> > > > IDs so that we have to buy each iOS app, each movie, each song twice.
> > > > That's why you let us share content on five Macs with the same Apple
> > > > ID, regardless of the administrator ID of the Mac user.
> > >  My wife and I have separate Apple IDs. I have logged in with mine on
> > > her Mac Mini to install apps I have purchased, same with content. This
> > > has not caused a problem and when she logs back in the apps or content
> > > under my acc don't deactivate they work fine. YMMV. I don't know does
> > > this let us have a ten Mac Limit?
> > 
> > There is no such thing as a limit of five Macs for App Store purchases.
> 
> I guess thats for content not apps...again you are correct.
> How do you remember all this stuff or do you do a lot of looking up for
> you answers?

I have a good memory, especially of things I have read or discussed
before. In some cases I need to look things up (especially to confirm
details), but if I didn't know at all I usually wouldn't post an answer
to a general question unless it particularly interested me, or was part
of an ongoing discussion.

Sometime my memory frightens me. For example, on Saturday I discovered
that I had memorised the Apple document number which describes the
printers supported by Snow Leopard and later. I didn't remember the full
URL, but I was able to search for "HT3669" on someone else's computer
and found the article faster than going and getting my computer to use
the bookmark I had saved, or searching by description. I must have seen
that page often enough to have remembered the code number.

> I could never remember details the way you do!
> Thanks I like your answers because I can count on them being correct so
> don't have to double check anything.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I can't claim to be right all the
time, but I often correct myself if I spot an important error or someone
else raises it. I also try to point out when I'm speculating or unsure
about something, or if I'm passing on details from something like a
rumour.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#29039

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:11:35 +1200, David Empson wrote:

> Sometime my memory frightens me. For example, on Saturday I discovered
> that I had memorised the Apple document number which describes the
> printers supported by Snow Leopard and later. I didn't remember the full
> URL, but I was able to search for "HT3669" on someone else's computer
> and found the article faster than going and getting my computer to use
> the bookmark I had saved, or searching by description. I must have seen
> that page often enough to have remembered the code number.

It's odd how some of this stuff sinks in.  I could remember lots of 
detail when I was dealing with printed documentation all the time.  
Important sentences would leave a verbatim imprint and I could often 
remember whereabouts they appeared on a page.

I simply cannot do the same with the much larger amount of web and PDF 
documentation I deal with nowadays, and age is no doubt a factor.

-- 
Paul Sture

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#29030

In message <jy-05B348.08385405082012@news.eternal-september.org> 
  John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:
> In article <1kocsbg.1k91t6t1pkoxxxN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>,
>  dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:
>> There is no such thing as a limit of five Macs for App Store purchases.

> I guess thats for content not apps...

That is only true for DRMed content (old music purchases, movies, and TV shows) and for iTunes Match.

>> There are technical reasons why it may be useful for two people in a
>> family to each have their own Apple ID, e.g. iCloud sync if they don't
>> want everything on their devices to be identical.

> Yes iCloud use is the best reason for my wife and myself to have 
> separate Apple IDs. We both use iCloud so one ID would not work.

Works perfectly well.

My wife and I have THREE icloud accounts.

1) mine. All purchases are made on this account (because I am the one who first started buying apps content). All my contacts notes, calendar events, etc.

2) hers. all her contacts, etc.

3) ours. Shared contacts, shared calendars, shared notes, etc.

On her iOS devices she uses my AppleID for the App Store.

-- 
The Force can have a strong influence on a weak mind.

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#29041

In article <slrnk1ufhn.ek0.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <jy-05B348.08385405082012@news.eternal-september.org> 
>   John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:
> > In article <1kocsbg.1k91t6t1pkoxxxN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>,
> >  dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:
> >> There is no such thing as a limit of five Macs for App Store purchases.
> 
> > I guess thats for content not apps...
> 
> That is only true for DRMed content (old music purchases, movies, and TV 
> shows) and for iTunes Match.
> 
> >> There are technical reasons why it may be useful for two people in a
> >> family to each have their own Apple ID, e.g. iCloud sync if they don't
> >> want everything on their devices to be identical.
> 
> > Yes iCloud use is the best reason for my wife and myself to have 
> > separate Apple IDs. We both use iCloud so one ID would not work.
> 
> Works perfectly well.
> 
> My wife and I have THREE icloud accounts.
> 
> 1) mine. All purchases are made on this account (because I am the one who 
> first started buying apps content). All my contacts notes, calendar events, 
> etc.
> 
> 2) hers. all her contacts, etc.
> 
> 3) ours. Shared contacts, shared calendars, shared notes, etc.
> 
> On her iOS devices she uses my AppleID for the App Store.

Is a AppleID different then an iCloud acc? If so I never realized that. 
I and my wife log in with or AppleId for iCloud, AppStore, and iTunes 
Match. Good thing too since I don't have the memory of most on this 
group.

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#29043

In message <jy-AFAA51.07152206082012@news.eternal-september.org> 
  John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:
> Is a AppleID different then an iCloud acc?

No.

>If so I never realized that. I and my wife log in with or AppleId for
>iCloud, AppStore, and iTunes Match. Good thing too since I don't have
>the memory of most on this group.

I find it necessary to keep my contacts out of her address book and her
contacts out of mine, so we use the third account to store all the
shared contacts (family, mutual friends, house related businesses, etc).

Likewise, if I schedule lunch with someone, it doesn't need to be on
her calendars, and if she has a meeting, I don't need to see that, but
there are obviously often events that apply to both of us.

-- 
And there were all the stars, looking remarkably like powered diamonds
spilled on black velvet, the stars that lured and ultimately called the
boldest towards them...

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#29044

In article <slrnk1vltg.ek0.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <jy-AFAA51.07152206082012@news.eternal-september.org> 
>   John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:
> > Is a AppleID different then an iCloud acc?
> 
> No.
> 
> >If so I never realized that. I and my wife log in with or AppleId for
> >iCloud, AppStore, and iTunes Match. Good thing too since I don't have
> >the memory of most on this group.
> 
> I find it necessary to keep my contacts out of her address book and her
> contacts out of mine, so we use the third account to store all the
> shared contacts (family, mutual friends, house related businesses, etc).
> 
> Likewise, if I schedule lunch with someone, it doesn't need to be on
> her calendars, and if she has a meeting, I don't need to see that, but
> there are obviously often events that apply to both of us.

Thanks Lewis

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#29054

In article <slrnk1ufhn.ek0.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <jy-05B348.08385405082012@news.eternal-september.org> 
>   John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:
> > In article <1kocsbg.1k91t6t1pkoxxxN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>,
> >  dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:
> >> There is no such thing as a limit of five Macs for App Store purchases.
> 
> > I guess thats for content not apps...
> 
> That is only true for DRMed content (old music purchases, movies, and TV 
> shows) and for iTunes Match.
> 
> >> There are technical reasons why it may be useful for two people in a
> >> family to each have their own Apple ID, e.g. iCloud sync if they don't
> >> want everything on their devices to be identical.
> 
> > Yes iCloud use is the best reason for my wife and myself to have 
> > separate Apple IDs. We both use iCloud so one ID would not work.
> 
> Works perfectly well.
> 
> My wife and I have THREE icloud accounts.
> 
> 1) mine. All purchases are made on this account (because I am the one who 
> first started buying apps content). All my contacts notes, calendar events, 
> etc.
> 
> 2) hers. all her contacts, etc.
> 
> 3) ours. Shared contacts, shared calendars, shared notes, etc.
> 
> On her iOS devices she uses my AppleID for the App Store.

Lewis, in order to make this work, do you need 3 accounts if you have 
one computer? I'd think everything would get completely confused using 
one account on one computer and multiple iCloud account/iDevices.

-- 
Inquiring minds want to know!

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#29057

In message <fmoore-FD5C96.17135806082012@news.eternal-september.org> 
  Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> In article <slrnk1ufhn.ek0.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <jy-05B348.08385405082012@news.eternal-september.org> 
>>   John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:
>> > In article <1kocsbg.1k91t6t1pkoxxxN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>,
>> >  dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:
>> >> There is no such thing as a limit of five Macs for App Store purchases.
>> 
>> > I guess thats for content not apps...
>> 
>> That is only true for DRMed content (old music purchases, movies, and TV 
>> shows) and for iTunes Match.
>> 
>> >> There are technical reasons why it may be useful for two people in a
>> >> family to each have their own Apple ID, e.g. iCloud sync if they don't
>> >> want everything on their devices to be identical.
>> 
>> > Yes iCloud use is the best reason for my wife and myself to have 
>> > separate Apple IDs. We both use iCloud so one ID would not work.
>> 
>> Works perfectly well.
>> 
>> My wife and I have THREE icloud accounts.
>> 
>> 1) mine. All purchases are made on this account (because I am the one who 
>> first started buying apps content). All my contacts notes, calendar events, 
>> etc.
>> 
>> 2) hers. all her contacts, etc.
>> 
>> 3) ours. Shared contacts, shared calendars, shared notes, etc.
>> 
>> On her iOS devices she uses my AppleID for the App Store.

> Lewis, in order to make this work, do you need 3 accounts if you have 
> one computer?

My account ont the computer has my Apple ID and then the additional
shared apple id. Her account has her apple id and the shared apple id.

> I'd think everything would get completely confused using 
> one account on one computer and multiple iCloud account/iDevices.

Why would anyone ever use one account for multiple people? That way
madness lies.

*NEVER* do this. Everyone has their own accounts on the computers. Even
houseguests we expect to see more than once get their own accounts.

-- 
Power corrupts.  Absolute power is kind of neat.

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#29064

On 08-06-2012 17:49, Lewis wrote:
> In message <fmoore-FD5C96.17135806082012@news.eternal-september.org>
>    Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>> In article <slrnk1ufhn.ek0.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>>   Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <jy-05B348.08385405082012@news.eternal-september.org>
>>>    John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:

>>>> Yes iCloud use is the best reason for my wife and myself to have
>>>> separate Apple IDs.  We both use iCloud so one ID would not work.
>>>
>>> Works perfectly well.
>>>
>>> My wife and I have THREE icloud accounts.


> Why would anyone ever use one account for multiple people? That way
> madness lies.
>
> *NEVER* do this. Everyone has their own accounts on the computers. Even
> houseguests we expect to see more than once get their own accounts.

See the contradiction?

-- 
Wes Groleau

   “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity.
    But I'm not so sure about the universe.”
                                — Albert Einstein

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#29089

In message <jvpj5p$kf1$1@dont-email.me> 
  Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> On 08-06-2012 17:49, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <fmoore-FD5C96.17135806082012@news.eternal-september.org>
>>    Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>> In article <slrnk1ufhn.ek0.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>>>   Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>> In message <jy-05B348.08385405082012@news.eternal-september.org>
>>>>    John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:

>>>>> Yes iCloud use is the best reason for my wife and myself to have
>>>>> separate Apple IDs.  We both use iCloud so one ID would not work.
>>>>
>>>> Works perfectly well.
>>>>
>>>> My wife and I have THREE icloud accounts.

>> Why would anyone ever use one account for multiple people? That way
>> madness lies.
>>
>> *NEVER* do this. Everyone has their own accounts on the computers. Even
>> houseguests we expect to see more than once get their own accounts.

> See the contradiction?

No, I don't.

-- 
'The gods,' he said. 'Imprisoned in a thought. And perhaps they were
never more than a dream.' --Sourcery

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#29175

On 08-07-2012 00:32, Lewis wrote:
> In message <jvpj5p$kf1$1@dont-email.me>
>    Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>> On 08-06-2012 17:49, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <fmoore-FD5C96.17135806082012@news.eternal-september.org>
>>>     Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>>> In article <slrnk1ufhn.ek0.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>>>>    Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>> In message <jy-05B348.08385405082012@news.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>     John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Yes iCloud use is the best reason for my wife and myself to have
>>>>>> separate Apple IDs.  We both use iCloud so one ID would not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Works perfectly well.
>>>>>
>>>>> My wife and I have THREE icloud accounts.
>
>>> Why would anyone ever use one account for multiple people? That way
>>> madness lies.
>>>
>>> *NEVER* do this. Everyone has their own accounts on the computers. Even
>>> houseguests we expect to see more than once get their own accounts.
>
>> See the contradiction?
>
> No, I don't.

Sorry to hear that.  He said _one_ ID would not work; you said "Works 
perfectly well"  And then made it clear that you don't believe _one_ ID 
works perfectly well.

-- 
Wes Groleau

     ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI

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#29179

After a bunch of convoluted nonsense, Wes Groleau wrote concerning
iCloud accounts:

> Sorry to hear that.  He said _one_ ID would not work; you said "Works 
> perfectly well"  And then made it clear that you don't believe _one_ ID 
> works perfectly well.

My wife and I share the same Apple ID and the same iCloud account. It
works very well. The only thing missing is for my wife to be able to
sync her Safari bookmarks with her iOS thingies. That seems to be
unimportant to her, so we don't count that as a negative. Shared
calendars, contacts, iTunes music, &c are a big convenience.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#29185

In message <jvsjk3$3aj$1@dont-email.me> 
  Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> On 08-07-2012 00:32, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <jvpj5p$kf1$1@dont-email.me>
>>    Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>>> On 08-06-2012 17:49, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <fmoore-FD5C96.17135806082012@news.eternal-september.org>
>>>>     Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>>>> In article <slrnk1ufhn.ek0.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>>>>>    Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <jy-05B348.08385405082012@news.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>     John Young <jy@scallawags.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Yes iCloud use is the best reason for my wife and myself to have
>>>>>>> separate Apple IDs.  We both use iCloud so one ID would not work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Works perfectly well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My wife and I have THREE icloud accounts.
>>
>>>> Why would anyone ever use one account for multiple people? That way
>>>> madness lies.
>>>>
>>>> *NEVER* do this. Everyone has their own accounts on the computers. Even
>>>> houseguests we expect to see more than once get their own accounts.
>>
>>> See the contradiction?
>>
>> No, I don't.

> Sorry to hear that.  He said _one_ ID would not work; you said "Works 
> perfectly well"  And then made it clear that you don't believe _one_ ID 
> works perfectly well.

I think there was some massive snippage there.


-- 
You and me Sunday driving Not arriving

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#29224

On 08-08-2012 00:34, Lewis wrote:
> I think there was some massive snippage there.

Of course there was.  I don't subscribe to the "bury the information in 
irrelevant verbage" philosophy of so many of today's Usenetters.

-- 
Wes Groleau

"What progress we are making!  In the Middle Ages, they would have
burnt me; nowadays they are content with burning my books.”
                                     — Sigmund Freud, 1933
"He was never to know that even that was only an illusory progress,
that ten years later they would have burned his body as well.”
                                     — Ernest Jones, 1953

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