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  Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-04 10:39 -0700
    Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 17:54 +0000
      Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-04 13:15 -0700
        Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-04 21:51 +0000
        Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 22:17 +0000
          Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-04 16:27 -0700
            Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-04 17:05 -0700
              Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 00:43 +0000
                Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-05 12:02 -0700
                  Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 19:21 +0000
                    Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-05 17:38 -0700
                      Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-06 03:53 +0000
                        - "Jul  6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-06 08:46 -0700
                          Re: - "Jul  6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-06 16:03 +0000
                            Re: - "Jul  6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-06 10:15 -0700
                              Re: - "Jul  6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-06 18:14 +0000
                                Re: - "Jul  6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-06 11:47 -0700
                                  Re: - "Jul  6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-06 19:11 +0000
                                    Re: - "Jul  6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-06 12:47 -0700
                        - "Jul  6 .doc" (1/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-06 08:46 -0700
              Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-07-10 17:02 +1000
      Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-04 20:27 +0000
        Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-07-04 14:43 -0700
        Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 22:19 +0000
    Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-07-10 17:02 +1000
      Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-10 14:51 +0000

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#61747 — Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update

My mid-2011 MacBook Air seems to take about 15 seconds to shut down
after I applied the 10.9.4 update. The boot time is about 15 seconds as
well. A tad bit slower than before the update but the shutdown is
noticeably longer. I usually quit all applications before shutting down
and empty the trash if there is any. The only service I leave on is
WiFi. Has anybody else experienced this? Something I need to check or
disable that was installed with the update. I also haven't updated or
added any new applications since the update. Thanks.

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#61748

On 2014-07-04, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> My mid-2011 MacBook Air seems to take about 15 seconds to shut down
> after I applied the 10.9.4 update. The boot time is about 15 seconds as
> well. A tad bit slower than before the update but the shutdown is
> noticeably longer. I usually quit all applications before shutting down
> and empty the trash if there is any. The only service I leave on is
> WiFi. Has anybody else experienced this? Something I need to check or
> disable that was installed with the update. I also haven't updated or
> added any new applications since the update. Thanks.

Try this:

1. Make note of the current time.
2. Perform a shutdown and wait for it to complete. 
3. Make note of the time again.
4. Start the computer.
5. Take a look at the console and system logs, and make note of any
messages that have a time stamp between the two times you noted above.

The system log will usually give you an indication as to what is causing
startup and low-level issues, where the console log typically shows only
issues you experience after you are logged into your user account.

Feel free to post *relevant portions* (only entries that are time
stamped around the time of the occurrence) of the logs here if you need
help understanding them. We'll be glad to take a look and tell you what
we see.

To view logs on your computer, open /Applications/Utilities/Console.

NOTE: You cannot use the Console application to view the system log from
a non-administrative account. Instead, do this:

1. Quit Console.
2. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.
3. In a terminal window, enter the command (replacing "admin" with the
short name of an administrator account): su admin
4. Supply the password to the admin account when prompted.
5. Enter the command: sudo open /Applications/Utilities/Console.app
6. Supply the password to the admin account when prompted.

If you enter these commands correctly, Console will open in
administrator mode, allowing you to view the system log.

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#61773

In article <c1o82sFoii9U4@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-04, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> > My mid-2011 MacBook Air seems to take about 15 seconds to shut down
> > after I applied the 10.9.4 update. The boot time is about 15 seconds as
> > well. A tad bit slower than before the update but the shutdown is
> > noticeably longer. I usually quit all applications before shutting down
> > and empty the trash if there is any. The only service I leave on is
> > WiFi. Has anybody else experienced this? Something I need to check or
> > disable that was installed with the update. I also haven't updated or
> > added any new applications since the update. Thanks.
> 
> Try this:
> 
> 1. Make note of the current time.
> 2. Perform a shutdown and wait for it to complete. 
> 3. Make note of the time again.
> 4. Start the computer.
> 5. Take a look at the console and system logs, and make note of any
> messages that have a time stamp between the two times you noted above.
> 
> The system log will usually give you an indication as to what is causing
> startup and low-level issues, where the console log typically shows only
> issues you experience after you are logged into your user account.
> 
> Feel free to post *relevant portions* (only entries that are time
> stamped around the time of the occurrence) of the logs here if you need
> help understanding them. We'll be glad to take a look and tell you what
> we see.
> 
> To view logs on your computer, open /Applications/Utilities/Console.
> 
> NOTE: You cannot use the Console application to view the system log from
> a non-administrative account. Instead, do this:
> 
> 1. Quit Console.
> 2. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.
> 3. In a terminal window, enter the command (replacing "admin" with the
> short name of an administrator account): su admin
> 4. Supply the password to the admin account when prompted.
> 5. Enter the command: sudo open /Applications/Utilities/Console.app
> 6. Supply the password to the admin account when prompted.
> 
> If you enter these commands correctly, Console will open in
> administrator mode, allowing you to view the system log.

Thanks. I looked at the Console and System logs and there aren't any
time stamps between the two times: SHUT_DOWN TIME 12:27, BOOT_TIME
13:06 on either log.

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#61786

Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> writes:

> Thanks. I looked at the Console and System logs and there aren't any
> time stamps between the two times: SHUT_DOWN TIME 12:27, BOOT_TIME
> 13:06 on either log.

It's the entries before

  7/4/14 14:18:17.623 shutdown[13085]: SHUTDOWN_TIME: 1404508697 622465

that are of interest...

You should also check the launchd-shutdown.system.log (click the /var/log
disclosure triangle, then click the same for com.apple.lanuchd) - lots of
data there, but you'll see entries like this...

3166615  com.apple.launchd  1  com.apple.metadata.mds.index 153
  Exited 3.144808 seconds after the first signal was sent

...that do not, as far as I can see, appear in the system log.

I do know you'll clearly see any delays, although they don't
remain on the screen for very long, using the verbose mode.

Billy Y..
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#61793

On 2014-07-04, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> In article <c1o82sFoii9U4@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-04, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
>> > My mid-2011 MacBook Air seems to take about 15 seconds to shut down
>> > after I applied the 10.9.4 update. The boot time is about 15 seconds as
>> > well. A tad bit slower than before the update but the shutdown is
>> > noticeably longer. I usually quit all applications before shutting down
>> > and empty the trash if there is any. The only service I leave on is
>> > WiFi. Has anybody else experienced this? Something I need to check or
>> > disable that was installed with the update. I also haven't updated or
>> > added any new applications since the update. Thanks.
>> 
>> Try this:
>> 
>> 1. Make note of the current time.
>> 2. Perform a shutdown and wait for it to complete. 
>> 3. Make note of the time again.
>> 4. Start the computer.
>> 5. Take a look at the console and system logs, and make note of any
>> messages that have a time stamp between the two times you noted above.
>> 
>> The system log will usually give you an indication as to what is causing
>> startup and low-level issues, where the console log typically shows only
>> issues you experience after you are logged into your user account.
>> 
>> Feel free to post *relevant portions* (only entries that are time
>> stamped around the time of the occurrence) of the logs here if you need
>> help understanding them. We'll be glad to take a look and tell you what
>> we see.
>> 
>> To view logs on your computer, open /Applications/Utilities/Console.
>> 
>> NOTE: You cannot use the Console application to view the system log from
>> a non-administrative account. Instead, do this:
>> 
>> 1. Quit Console.
>> 2. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.
>> 3. In a terminal window, enter the command (replacing "admin" with the
>> short name of an administrator account): su admin
>> 4. Supply the password to the admin account when prompted.
>> 5. Enter the command: sudo open /Applications/Utilities/Console.app
>> 6. Supply the password to the admin account when prompted.
>> 
>> If you enter these commands correctly, Console will open in
>> administrator mode, allowing you to view the system log.
>
> Thanks. I looked at the Console and System logs and there aren't any
> time stamps between the two times: SHUT_DOWN TIME 12:27, BOOT_TIME
> 13:06 on either log.

You didn't follow my instructions. You are supposed to note the time
*before* you shut down, and then look for log messages from that time
forward until the time you started up.

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#61811

In article <c1ong9Ft8ilU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-04, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> > In article <c1o82sFoii9U4@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-07-04, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> >> > My mid-2011 MacBook Air seems to take about 15 seconds to shut down
> >> > after I applied the 10.9.4 update. The boot time is about 15 seconds as
> >> > well. A tad bit slower than before the update but the shutdown is
> >> > noticeably longer. I usually quit all applications before shutting down
> >> > and empty the trash if there is any. The only service I leave on is
> >> > WiFi. Has anybody else experienced this? Something I need to check or
> >> > disable that was installed with the update. I also haven't updated or
> >> > added any new applications since the update. Thanks.
> >> 
> >> Try this:
> >> 
> >> 1. Make note of the current time.
> >> 2. Perform a shutdown and wait for it to complete. 
> >> 3. Make note of the time again.
> >> 4. Start the computer.
> >> 5. Take a look at the console and system logs, and make note of any
> >> messages that have a time stamp between the two times you noted above.
> >> 
> >> The system log will usually give you an indication as to what is causing
> >> startup and low-level issues, where the console log typically shows only
> >> issues you experience after you are logged into your user account.
> >> 
> >> Feel free to post *relevant portions* (only entries that are time
> >> stamped around the time of the occurrence) of the logs here if you need
> >> help understanding them. We'll be glad to take a look and tell you what
> >> we see.
> >> 
> >> To view logs on your computer, open /Applications/Utilities/Console.
> >> 
> >> NOTE: You cannot use the Console application to view the system log from
> >> a non-administrative account. Instead, do this:
> >> 
> >> 1. Quit Console.
> >> 2. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.
> >> 3. In a terminal window, enter the command (replacing "admin" with the
> >> short name of an administrator account): su admin
> >> 4. Supply the password to the admin account when prompted.
> >> 5. Enter the command: sudo open /Applications/Utilities/Console.app
> >> 6. Supply the password to the admin account when prompted.
> >> 
> >> If you enter these commands correctly, Console will open in
> >> administrator mode, allowing you to view the system log.
> >
> > Thanks. I looked at the Console and System logs and there aren't any
> > time stamps between the two times: SHUT_DOWN TIME 12:27, BOOT_TIME
> > 13:06 on either log.
> 
> You didn't follow my instructions. You are supposed to note the time
> *before* you shut down, and then look for log messages from that time
> forward until the time you started up.

My apologies for my lack of understanding. I just jotted down the time
I shutdown, waited for an interval, and the rebooted.

Ok, I'll go and look at the log now, note the entries at that time
(maybe cut and paste to Word), and then shutdown?

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#61816

In article <040720141627544166%otto@bogus.address.com>, Otto Pylot
<otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:

> In article <c1ong9Ft8ilU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2014-07-04, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> > > In article <c1o82sFoii9U4@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> > ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 2014-07-04, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> > >> > My mid-2011 MacBook Air seems to take about 15 seconds to shut down
> > >> > after I applied the 10.9.4 update. The boot time is about 15 seconds as
> > >> > well. A tad bit slower than before the update but the shutdown is
> > >> > noticeably longer. I usually quit all applications before shutting down
> > >> > and empty the trash if there is any. The only service I leave on is
> > >> > WiFi. Has anybody else experienced this? Something I need to check or
> > >> > disable that was installed with the update. I also haven't updated or
> > >> > added any new applications since the update. Thanks.
> > >> 
> > >> Try this:
> > >> 
> > >> 1. Make note of the current time.
> > >> 2. Perform a shutdown and wait for it to complete. 
> > >> 3. Make note of the time again.
> > >> 4. Start the computer.
> > >> 5. Take a look at the console and system logs, and make note of any
> > >> messages that have a time stamp between the two times you noted above.
> > >> 
> > >> The system log will usually give you an indication as to what is causing
> > >> startup and low-level issues, where the console log typically shows only
> > >> issues you experience after you are logged into your user account.
> > >> 
> > >> Feel free to post *relevant portions* (only entries that are time
> > >> stamped around the time of the occurrence) of the logs here if you need
> > >> help understanding them. We'll be glad to take a look and tell you what
> > >> we see.
> > >> 
> > >> To view logs on your computer, open /Applications/Utilities/Console.
> > >> 
> > >> NOTE: You cannot use the Console application to view the system log from
> > >> a non-administrative account. Instead, do this:
> > >> 
> > >> 1. Quit Console.
> > >> 2. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.
> > >> 3. In a terminal window, enter the command (replacing "admin" with the
> > >> short name of an administrator account): su admin
> > >> 4. Supply the password to the admin account when prompted.
> > >> 5. Enter the command: sudo open /Applications/Utilities/Console.app
> > >> 6. Supply the password to the admin account when prompted.
> > >> 
> > >> If you enter these commands correctly, Console will open in
> > >> administrator mode, allowing you to view the system log.
> > >
> > > Thanks. I looked at the Console and System logs and there aren't any
> > > time stamps between the two times: SHUT_DOWN TIME 12:27, BOOT_TIME
> > > 13:06 on either log.
> > 
> > You didn't follow my instructions. You are supposed to note the time
> > *before* you shut down, and then look for log messages from that time
> > forward until the time you started up.
> 
> My apologies for my lack of understanding. I just jotted down the time
> I shutdown, waited for an interval, and the rebooted.
> 
> Ok, I'll go and look at the log now, note the entries at that time
> (maybe cut and paste to Word), and then shutdown?

First of all, thanks for your help. I have a .doc file of before and
after shutdown. It's rather large and I don't know how much of it I
should post. What am I, or you guys, looking for?

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#61820

On 2014-07-05, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
>
> First of all, thanks for your help. I have a .doc file of before and
> after shutdown. It's rather large and I don't know how much of it I
> should post. What am I, or you guys, looking for?

We are looking for only the log messages *between* the time you told the
computer to shut down and when it actually did shut down. I figured that
was obvious from my instructions, but I guess not. If you follow my
directions precisely, you shouldn't have very many messages to post
here:

1. Make note of the current time.
2. Perform a shutdown and wait for it to complete.
3. Make note of the time again.
4. Start the computer.
5. Take a look at the console and system logs, and make note
of any messages that have a time stamp *between* the two times you
noted above.

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#61986

In article <c1p02aFc0lU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-05, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> >
> > First of all, thanks for your help. I have a .doc file of before and
> > after shutdown. It's rather large and I don't know how much of it I
> > should post. What am I, or you guys, looking for?
> 
> We are looking for only the log messages *between* the time you told the
> computer to shut down and when it actually did shut down. I figured that
> was obvious from my instructions, but I guess not. If you follow my
> directions precisely, you shouldn't have very many messages to post
> here:
> 
> 1. Make note of the current time.
> 2. Perform a shutdown and wait for it to complete.
> 3. Make note of the time again.
> 4. Start the computer.
> 5. Take a look at the console and system logs, and make note
> of any messages that have a time stamp *between* the two times you
> noted above.

Thanks for your patience. I followed your instructions and copied all
of the Console System logs between the time I told the Air to shutdown
(using my watch to mark the exact time) and when it actually shutdown,
to a Word .doc. It's 70kb.

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#61987

On 2014-07-05, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> In article <c1p02aFc0lU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-05, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > First of all, thanks for your help. I have a .doc file of before and
>> > after shutdown. It's rather large and I don't know how much of it I
>> > should post. What am I, or you guys, looking for?
>> 
>> We are looking for only the log messages *between* the time you told the
>> computer to shut down and when it actually did shut down. I figured that
>> was obvious from my instructions, but I guess not. If you follow my
>> directions precisely, you shouldn't have very many messages to post
>> here:
>> 
>> 1. Make note of the current time.
>> 2. Perform a shutdown and wait for it to complete.
>> 3. Make note of the time again.
>> 4. Start the computer.
>> 5. Take a look at the console and system logs, and make note
>> of any messages that have a time stamp *between* the two times you
>> noted above.
>
> Thanks for your patience. I followed your instructions and copied all
> of the Console System logs between the time I told the Air to shutdown
> (using my watch to mark the exact time) and when it actually shutdown,
> to a Word .doc. It's 70kb.

How many lines is it? It shouldn't be more than a handful.

Post the lines here.

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#62005

In article <c1r1gvFdbslU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-05, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> > In article <c1p02aFc0lU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-07-05, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > First of all, thanks for your help. I have a .doc file of before and
> >> > after shutdown. It's rather large and I don't know how much of it I
> >> > should post. What am I, or you guys, looking for?
> >> 
> >> We are looking for only the log messages *between* the time you told the
> >> computer to shut down and when it actually did shut down. I figured that
> >> was obvious from my instructions, but I guess not. If you follow my
> >> directions precisely, you shouldn't have very many messages to post
> >> here:
> >> 
> >> 1. Make note of the current time.
> >> 2. Perform a shutdown and wait for it to complete.
> >> 3. Make note of the time again.
> >> 4. Start the computer.
> >> 5. Take a look at the console and system logs, and make note
> >> of any messages that have a time stamp *between* the two times you
> >> noted above.
> >
> > Thanks for your patience. I followed your instructions and copied all
> > of the Console System logs between the time I told the Air to shutdown
> > (using my watch to mark the exact time) and when it actually shutdown,
> > to a Word .doc. It's 70kb.
> 
> How many lines is it? It shouldn't be more than a handful.
> 
> Post the lines here.

It's 10 pages of a Word .doc.

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#62018

On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> In article <c1r1gvFdbslU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-05, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
>> > In article <c1p02aFc0lU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2014-07-05, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > First of all, thanks for your help. I have a .doc file of before and
>> >> > after shutdown. It's rather large and I don't know how much of it I
>> >> > should post. What am I, or you guys, looking for?
>> >> 
>> >> We are looking for only the log messages *between* the time you told the
>> >> computer to shut down and when it actually did shut down. I figured that
>> >> was obvious from my instructions, but I guess not. If you follow my
>> >> directions precisely, you shouldn't have very many messages to post
>> >> here:
>> >> 
>> >> 1. Make note of the current time.
>> >> 2. Perform a shutdown and wait for it to complete.
>> >> 3. Make note of the time again.
>> >> 4. Start the computer.
>> >> 5. Take a look at the console and system logs, and make note
>> >> of any messages that have a time stamp *between* the two times you
>> >> noted above.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your patience. I followed your instructions and copied all
>> > of the Console System logs between the time I told the Air to shutdown
>> > (using my watch to mark the exact time) and when it actually shutdown,
>> > to a Word .doc. It's 70kb.
>> 
>> How many lines is it? It shouldn't be more than a handful.
>> 
>> Post the lines here.
>
> It's 10 pages of a Word .doc.

Wow. Are a lot of messages repeated or something? How much time expired
between the time you selected apple menu > Shut Down and the time the
computer actually finished shutting down? In other words, what's the
time stamp of the very first message, and what's the time stamp of the
very last message?

Anyhow, feel free to post the messages here.

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#62029 — - "Jul 6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update

In article <c1rvhjFj00jU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> > In article <c1r1gvFdbslU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-07-05, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> >> > In article <c1p02aFc0lU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> >> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 2014-07-05, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > First of all, thanks for your help. I have a .doc file of before and
> >> >> > after shutdown. It's rather large and I don't know how much of it I
> >> >> > should post. What am I, or you guys, looking for?
> >> >> 
> >> >> We are looking for only the log messages *between* the time you told the
> >> >> computer to shut down and when it actually did shut down. I figured that
> >> >> was obvious from my instructions, but I guess not. If you follow my
> >> >> directions precisely, you shouldn't have very many messages to post
> >> >> here:
> >> >> 
> >> >> 1. Make note of the current time.
> >> >> 2. Perform a shutdown and wait for it to complete.
> >> >> 3. Make note of the time again.
> >> >> 4. Start the computer.
> >> >> 5. Take a look at the console and system logs, and make note
> >> >> of any messages that have a time stamp *between* the two times you
> >> >> noted above.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your patience. I followed your instructions and copied all
> >> > of the Console System logs between the time I told the Air to shutdown
> >> > (using my watch to mark the exact time) and when it actually shutdown,
> >> > to a Word .doc. It's 70kb.
> >> 
> >> How many lines is it? It shouldn't be more than a handful.
> >> 
> >> Post the lines here.
> >
> > It's 10 pages of a Word .doc.
> 
> Wow. Are a lot of messages repeated or something? How much time expired
> between the time you selected apple menu > Shut Down and the time the
> computer actually finished shutting down? In other words, what's the
> time stamp of the very first message, and what's the time stamp of the
> very last message?
> 
> Anyhow, feel free to post the messages here.

I repeated the steps again this morning. This time, the shutdown
process took about 12 seconds, which is still slower than before the
10.9.4 update. I've properly captured the system log info this time (I
highlighted too much yesterday) so the .doc file is only 37kb and about
a page and a half long. I'll attach it here.

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#62031 — Re: - "Jul 6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update

On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
>
> I repeated the steps again this morning. This time, the shutdown
> process took about 12 seconds, which is still slower than before the
> 10.9.4 update. I've properly captured the system log info this time (I
> highlighted too much yesterday) so the .doc file is only 37kb and about
> a page and a half long. I'll attach it here.

That's won't work since this news group does not accept attachments
(binaries). Don't bother messing around with a Word document. Just copy
the messages from the log file, and paste them directly into a reply
here. Done deal.

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#62033 — Re: - "Jul 6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update

In article <c1taauFrfr2U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> >
> > I repeated the steps again this morning. This time, the shutdown
> > process took about 12 seconds, which is still slower than before the
> > 10.9.4 update. I've properly captured the system log info this time (I
> > highlighted too much yesterday) so the .doc file is only 37kb and about
> > a page and a half long. I'll attach it here.
> 
> That's won't work since this news group does not accept attachments
> (binaries). Don't bother messing around with a Word document. Just copy
> the messages from the log file, and paste them directly into a reply
> here. Done deal.

<sigh> Hope it's safe to post this info cause I haven't a clue as to
what it is..

Jul  6 08:32:47 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local Console[344]:
setPresentationOptions called with NSApplicationPresentationFullScreen
when there is no visible fullscreen window; this call will be ignored.
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local WindowServer[94]:
CGXGetConnectionProperty: Invalid connection 51243
Jul  6 08:34:56 --- last message repeated 4 times ---
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local WindowServer[94]: Set a
breakpoint at CGSLogError to catch errors as they are logged.
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local WindowServer[94]:
CGXRegisterForPortNotification: mach_port_request_notification:
(os/kern) invalid argument
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[142]
(com.apple.PackageKit.InstallStatus[358]): Exited: Terminated: 15
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[142]
(com.apple.AirPlayUIAgent[257]): Exited: Killed: 9
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd[1]
(com.apple.ShareKitHelper[224]): Exited: Killed: 9
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[142]
(com.apple.PackageKit.InstallStatus): Throttling respawn: Will start in
10 seconds
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd[1]
(com.apple.internetaccounts[217]): Exited: Killed: 9
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[142]
(com.apple.iTunesHelper.10240[208]): Exited with code: 1
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[142]
([0x0-0x1c01c].com.apple.AppleSpell[266]): Exited: Killed: 9
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[142]
(com.google.android.mtpagent.52128[209]): Exited: Terminated: 15
Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[142]
(com.apple.gamed[207]): Exited: Killed: 9
Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
-[ApplicationManager quitPrivateProcesses] | Private process did not
quit
Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local sessionlogoutd[361]:
sessionlogoutd Launched
Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
processNotificationManagerLSNotificationCallBack |
LWCASProcessNotificationManager UNEXPECTED NOTIFICATION of type:
kLSNotifyApplicationBirth
Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local sessionlogoutd[361]:
DEAD_PROCESS: 65 console
Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
-[Application hardKill:] | Application hardKill returned -600
Jul  6 08:35:07 --- last message repeated 2 times ---
Jul  6 08:35:07 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local airportd[84]: _doAutoJoin:
Already associated to ³Bear². Bailing on auto-join.
Jul  6 08:35:07 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local shutdown[362]: halt by
_cvmsroot: 
Jul  6 08:35:07 Scotts-MacBook-Air kernel[0]: Kext loading now disabled.
Jul  6 08:35:07 Scotts-MacBook-Air kernel[0]: Kext unloading now
disabled.
Jul  6 08:35:07 Scotts-MacBook-Air kernel[0]: Kext autounloading now
disabled.
Jul  6 08:35:07 Scotts-MacBook-Air kernel[0]: Kernel requests now
disabled.
Jul  6 08:35:07 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local shutdown[362]: SHUTDOWN_TIME:
1404660907 20597

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#62034 — Re: - "Jul 6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update

On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> In article <c1taauFrfr2U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I repeated the steps again this morning. This time, the shutdown
>> > process took about 12 seconds, which is still slower than before the
>> > 10.9.4 update. I've properly captured the system log info this time (I
>> > highlighted too much yesterday) so the .doc file is only 37kb and about
>> > a page and a half long. I'll attach it here.
>> 
>> That's won't work since this news group does not accept attachments
>> (binaries). Don't bother messing around with a Word document. Just copy
>> the messages from the log file, and paste them directly into a reply
>> here. Done deal.
>
><sigh> Hope it's safe to post this info cause I haven't a clue as to
> what it is..

[snip]
> Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[142]
> (com.apple.gamed[207]): Exited: Killed: 9

Notice the ten-second time delta between the message above and the
message below.

> Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
> -[ApplicationManager quitPrivateProcesses] | Private process did not
> quit
> Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local sessionlogoutd[361]:
> sessionlogoutd Launched
> Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
> processNotificationManagerLSNotificationCallBack |
> LWCASProcessNotificationManager UNEXPECTED NOTIFICATION of type:
> kLSNotifyApplicationBirth
> Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local sessionlogoutd[361]:
> DEAD_PROCESS: 65 console
> Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
> -[Application hardKill:] | Application hardKill returned -600
> Jul  6 08:35:07 --- last message repeated 2 times ---

What this is saying is that the loginwindow process is unable to
gracefully kill the console process (sessionlogoutd[361]: DEAD_PROCESS:
65 console). Unfortunately, it doesn't tell us *why* this is happening. 

You may be able to glean more details about the problem by running
/Applications/Utilities/Console, clicking "All Messages" in the side bar
on the left side, and searching for "loginwindow", "sessionslogoutd", or
"console". Feel free to post any relevant messages you find (don't
bother pasting lines that get repeated so we don't have to wade through
too much noise).

Since the issue has to do with a process not quitting properly, it might
be nice to know if the problem remains if you quit all running
applications *before* shutting down. If the problem goes away, then one
of those applications may be the culprit.

It could also be related to a device you have connected to the computer.
Another thing you might try is disconnecting any non-essential USB,
Firewire, or Thunderbolt devices from the computer to see if the delay
disappears. If so, that's a clue that the issue may be caused by a
driver or hardware malfunction of something that is connected to the
computer.

It would also be handy to know if the problem happens when you create a
brand-new Mac OS X user account and shut down while logged into that
account. If not, the problem is likely due to a setting in your user
account.

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#62035 — Re: - "Jul 6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update

In article <c1thvhFspjdU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> > In article <c1taauFrfr2U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I repeated the steps again this morning. This time, the shutdown
> >> > process took about 12 seconds, which is still slower than before the
> >> > 10.9.4 update. I've properly captured the system log info this time (I
> >> > highlighted too much yesterday) so the .doc file is only 37kb and about
> >> > a page and a half long. I'll attach it here.
> >> 
> >> That's won't work since this news group does not accept attachments
> >> (binaries). Don't bother messing around with a Word document. Just copy
> >> the messages from the log file, and paste them directly into a reply
> >> here. Done deal.
> >
> ><sigh> Hope it's safe to post this info cause I haven't a clue as to
> > what it is..
> 
> [snip]
> > Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[142]
> > (com.apple.gamed[207]): Exited: Killed: 9
> 
> Notice the ten-second time delta between the message above and the
> message below.
> 
> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
> > -[ApplicationManager quitPrivateProcesses] | Private process did not
> > quit
> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local sessionlogoutd[361]:
> > sessionlogoutd Launched
> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
> > processNotificationManagerLSNotificationCallBack |
> > LWCASProcessNotificationManager UNEXPECTED NOTIFICATION of type:
> > kLSNotifyApplicationBirth
> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local sessionlogoutd[361]:
> > DEAD_PROCESS: 65 console
> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
> > -[Application hardKill:] | Application hardKill returned -600
> > Jul  6 08:35:07 --- last message repeated 2 times ---
> 
> What this is saying is that the loginwindow process is unable to
> gracefully kill the console process (sessionlogoutd[361]: DEAD_PROCESS:
> 65 console). Unfortunately, it doesn't tell us *why* this is happening. 
> 
> You may be able to glean more details about the problem by running
> /Applications/Utilities/Console, clicking "All Messages" in the side bar
> on the left side, and searching for "loginwindow", "sessionslogoutd", or
> "console". Feel free to post any relevant messages you find (don't
> bother pasting lines that get repeated so we don't have to wade through
> too much noise).
> 
> Since the issue has to do with a process not quitting properly, it might
> be nice to know if the problem remains if you quit all running
> applications *before* shutting down. If the problem goes away, then one
> of those applications may be the culprit.
> 
> It could also be related to a device you have connected to the computer.
> Another thing you might try is disconnecting any non-essential USB,
> Firewire, or Thunderbolt devices from the computer to see if the delay
> disappears. If so, that's a clue that the issue may be caused by a
> driver or hardware malfunction of something that is connected to the
> computer.
> 
> It would also be handy to know if the problem happens when you create a
> brand-new Mac OS X user account and shut down while logged into that
> account. If not, the problem is likely due to a setting in your user
> account.

This is what I came up with which I believe is the same time frame that
I posted above:

7/6/14 8:35:06.919 AM loginwindow[65]: ERROR | -[ApplicationManager
quitPrivateProcesses] | Private process did not quit
7/6/14 8:35:06.964 AM sessionlogoutd[361]: sessionlogoutd Launched
7/6/14 8:35:06.972 AM loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
processNotificationManagerLSNotificationCallBack |
LWCASProcessNotificationManager UNEXPECTED NOTIFICATION of type:
kLSNotifyApplicationBirth
7/6/14 8:35:06.977 AM sessionlogoutd[361]: DEAD_PROCESS: 65 console
7/6/14 8:35:06.980 AM loginwindow[65]: ERROR | -[Application hardKill:]
| Application hardKill returned -600
7/6/14 8:35:06.981 AM loginwindow[65]: ERROR | -[Application hardKill:]
| Application hardKill returned -600
7/6/14 8:35:06.982 AM loginwindow[65]: ERROR | -[Application hardKill:]
| Application hardKill returned -600
7/6/14 8:35:07.018 AM airportd[84]: _doAutoJoin: Already associated to
³Bear². Bailing on auto-join.

I don't usually keep anything physically connected to my Air unless I'm
transferring files, etc. Otherwise it's just the Air by itself. What's
odd is that with 10.9.3, shutdown time was almost instantaneous. I
always quit all applications and empty the trash before quitting.

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#62036 — Re: - "Jul 6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update

On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> In article <c1thvhFspjdU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
>> > In article <c1taauFrfr2U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I repeated the steps again this morning. This time, the shutdown
>> >> > process took about 12 seconds, which is still slower than before the
>> >> > 10.9.4 update. I've properly captured the system log info this time (I
>> >> > highlighted too much yesterday) so the .doc file is only 37kb and about
>> >> > a page and a half long. I'll attach it here.
>> >> 
>> >> That's won't work since this news group does not accept attachments
>> >> (binaries). Don't bother messing around with a Word document. Just copy
>> >> the messages from the log file, and paste them directly into a reply
>> >> here. Done deal.
>> >
>> ><sigh> Hope it's safe to post this info cause I haven't a clue as to
>> > what it is..
>> 
>> [snip]
>> > Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[142]
>> > (com.apple.gamed[207]): Exited: Killed: 9
>> 
>> Notice the ten-second time delta between the message above and the
>> message below.
>> 
>> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
>> > -[ApplicationManager quitPrivateProcesses] | Private process did not
>> > quit
>> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local sessionlogoutd[361]:
>> > sessionlogoutd Launched
>> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
>> > processNotificationManagerLSNotificationCallBack |
>> > LWCASProcessNotificationManager UNEXPECTED NOTIFICATION of type:
>> > kLSNotifyApplicationBirth
>> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local sessionlogoutd[361]:
>> > DEAD_PROCESS: 65 console
>> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
>> > -[Application hardKill:] | Application hardKill returned -600
>> > Jul  6 08:35:07 --- last message repeated 2 times ---
>> 
>> What this is saying is that the loginwindow process is unable to
>> gracefully kill the console process (sessionlogoutd[361]: DEAD_PROCESS:
>> 65 console). Unfortunately, it doesn't tell us *why* this is happening. 
>> 
>> You may be able to glean more details about the problem by running
>> /Applications/Utilities/Console, clicking "All Messages" in the side bar
>> on the left side, and searching for "loginwindow", "sessionslogoutd", or
>> "console". Feel free to post any relevant messages you find (don't
>> bother pasting lines that get repeated so we don't have to wade through
>> too much noise).
>> 
>> Since the issue has to do with a process not quitting properly, it might
>> be nice to know if the problem remains if you quit all running
>> applications *before* shutting down. If the problem goes away, then one
>> of those applications may be the culprit.
>> 
>> It could also be related to a device you have connected to the computer.
>> Another thing you might try is disconnecting any non-essential USB,
>> Firewire, or Thunderbolt devices from the computer to see if the delay
>> disappears. If so, that's a clue that the issue may be caused by a
>> driver or hardware malfunction of something that is connected to the
>> computer.
>> 
>> It would also be handy to know if the problem happens when you create a
>> brand-new Mac OS X user account and shut down while logged into that
>> account. If not, the problem is likely due to a setting in your user
>> account.
>
> This is what I came up with which I believe is the same time frame that
> I posted above:
>
[snip]

Yeah, those are the same messages.

> I don't usually keep anything physically connected to my Air unless I'm
> transferring files, etc. Otherwise it's just the Air by itself. What's
> odd is that with 10.9.3, shutdown time was almost instantaneous. I
> always quit all applications and empty the trash before quitting.

Ok, good - so it's probably not related to anything you had physically
connected.

Does the problem occur if you create a brand-new Mac OS X user account,
log into it, and shut down from there? If not, we know the problem is
isolated to your user account.

Try booting in Safe Mode (link to instructions below) and then shutting
down. Does the problem remain?

Another thing to try is temporarily disabling login items (also described
in the link below) to see if the problem remains.

Instructions here: <http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14215>

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#62037 — Re: - "Jul 6 .doc" (0/1) Re: Slower Shutdown after 10.9.4 update

In article <c1tlaiFtqljU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> > In article <c1thvhFspjdU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> >> > In article <c1taauFrfr2U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> >> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 2014-07-06, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I repeated the steps again this morning. This time, the shutdown
> >> >> > process took about 12 seconds, which is still slower than before the
> >> >> > 10.9.4 update. I've properly captured the system log info this time (I
> >> >> > highlighted too much yesterday) so the .doc file is only 37kb and
> >> >> > about
> >> >> > a page and a half long. I'll attach it here.
> >> >> 
> >> >> That's won't work since this news group does not accept attachments
> >> >> (binaries). Don't bother messing around with a Word document. Just copy
> >> >> the messages from the log file, and paste them directly into a reply
> >> >> here. Done deal.
> >> >
> >> ><sigh> Hope it's safe to post this info cause I haven't a clue as to
> >> > what it is..
> >> 
> >> [snip]
> >> > Jul  6 08:34:56 Scotts-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[142]
> >> > (com.apple.gamed[207]): Exited: Killed: 9
> >> 
> >> Notice the ten-second time delta between the message above and the
> >> message below.
> >> 
> >> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
> >> > -[ApplicationManager quitPrivateProcesses] | Private process did not
> >> > quit
> >> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local sessionlogoutd[361]:
> >> > sessionlogoutd Launched
> >> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
> >> > processNotificationManagerLSNotificationCallBack |
> >> > LWCASProcessNotificationManager UNEXPECTED NOTIFICATION of type:
> >> > kLSNotifyApplicationBirth
> >> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local sessionlogoutd[361]:
> >> > DEAD_PROCESS: 65 console
> >> > Jul  6 08:35:06 Scotts-MacBook-Air.local loginwindow[65]: ERROR |
> >> > -[Application hardKill:] | Application hardKill returned -600
> >> > Jul  6 08:35:07 --- last message repeated 2 times ---
> >> 
> >> What this is saying is that the loginwindow process is unable to
> >> gracefully kill the console process (sessionlogoutd[361]: DEAD_PROCESS:
> >> 65 console). Unfortunately, it doesn't tell us *why* this is happening. 
> >> 
> >> You may be able to glean more details about the problem by running
> >> /Applications/Utilities/Console, clicking "All Messages" in the side bar
> >> on the left side, and searching for "loginwindow", "sessionslogoutd", or
> >> "console". Feel free to post any relevant messages you find (don't
> >> bother pasting lines that get repeated so we don't have to wade through
> >> too much noise).
> >> 
> >> Since the issue has to do with a process not quitting properly, it might
> >> be nice to know if the problem remains if you quit all running
> >> applications *before* shutting down. If the problem goes away, then one
> >> of those applications may be the culprit.
> >> 
> >> It could also be related to a device you have connected to the computer.
> >> Another thing you might try is disconnecting any non-essential USB,
> >> Firewire, or Thunderbolt devices from the computer to see if the delay
> >> disappears. If so, that's a clue that the issue may be caused by a
> >> driver or hardware malfunction of something that is connected to the
> >> computer.
> >> 
> >> It would also be handy to know if the problem happens when you create a
> >> brand-new Mac OS X user account and shut down while logged into that
> >> account. If not, the problem is likely due to a setting in your user
> >> account.
> >
> > This is what I came up with which I believe is the same time frame that
> > I posted above:
> >
> [snip]
> 
> Yeah, those are the same messages.
> 
> > I don't usually keep anything physically connected to my Air unless I'm
> > transferring files, etc. Otherwise it's just the Air by itself. What's
> > odd is that with 10.9.3, shutdown time was almost instantaneous. I
> > always quit all applications and empty the trash before quitting.
> 
> Ok, good - so it's probably not related to anything you had physically
> connected.
> 
> Does the problem occur if you create a brand-new Mac OS X user account,
> log into it, and shut down from there? If not, we know the problem is
> isolated to your user account.
> 
> Try booting in Safe Mode (link to instructions below) and then shutting
> down. Does the problem remain?
> 
> Another thing to try is temporarily disabling login items (also described
> in the link below) to see if the problem remains.
> 
> Instructions here: <http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14215>

Wow. I booted in Safe Mode (it said so at the top). Held down the Power
button until the Shutdown dialog box appeared, released the Power
button and hit Return. Nothing happened for about 95 seconds (no
Shutdown) so I got concerned, pressed the Power button again for about
3-5 seconds and it Shutdown. It seems to be a lot worse when booting
into Safe Mode, unless I screwed something up.

-- 
Deja Moo: I've seen this bullshit before. Please respond to: scasse@invalid.net
replacing invalid with sonic.

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