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Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS :(

Started byLloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
First post2014-07-26 12:00 -0500
Last post2014-07-29 00:54 +0000
Articles 20 on this page of 465 — 30 participants

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  Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-26 12:00 -0500
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-26 12:34 -0500
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-26 13:11 -0500
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-27 10:45 +1200
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-26 18:01 -0500
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-27 11:03 -0400
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 11:27 -0500
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-27 14:10 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 13:21 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-27 16:44 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-27 14:46 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 19:09 +0000
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-27 10:40 +1200
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-26 20:06 +0000
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-26 15:04 -0700
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 00:41 +0000
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-26 23:17 -0400
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-28 13:12 +0200
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-26 23:52 -0700
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-26 22:03 -0500
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 04:18 +0000
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-27 13:45 -0400
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 18:14 +0000
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 13:20 -0500
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 19:08 +0000
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 00:57 +0000
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-28 15:46 -0700
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-28 20:02 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 01:06 +0000
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 01:26 +0000
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-28 22:01 -0700
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-29 11:46 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 10:18 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-29 21:13 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 19:11 -0700
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-31 01:47 -0400
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 06:51 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-31 08:55 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 20:17 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-08-01 22:52 -0400
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-31 12:37 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-31 09:40 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-31 13:18 -0400
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:05 -0700
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:23 +0000
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 11:35 -0700
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:55 +0000
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 01:26 +0000
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-31 16:59 +0000
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 21:46 +0000
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-31 18:38 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 16:03 +0000
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 16:12 +0000
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-01 17:51 +0000
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:22 +0000
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-08-01 12:35 -0700
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-02 01:31 +0000
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-08-11 18:38 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-31 14:35 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-31 23:33 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 20:20 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 16:02 +0000
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-28 22:30 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-28 22:04 -0700
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 02:13 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 07:56 -0700
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-07-29 10:39 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 10:58 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-07-29 13:39 -0400
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-29 10:57 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 18:17 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 14:56 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-29 22:15 +0100
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 19:33 -0400
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-30 09:36 +1000
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-08-04 14:01 +0200
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-04 11:32 -0400
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 19:09 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-07-29 21:49 -0500
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 22:11 -0700
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-07-29 23:10 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 08:05 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-07-29 13:34 -0400
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 11:10 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 14:56 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-07-29 23:12 -0400
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-30 16:07 +1200
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-30 00:10 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-30 01:59 +0000
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 09:32 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 13:39 +0000
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 15:10 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-30 01:51 +0000
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 11:37 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 14:56 -0400
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-29 14:11 -0500
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 15:14 -0400
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-29 14:48 -0500
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 23:20 +0000
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 19:33 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-30 00:19 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-29 14:48 -0500
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 15:58 -0400
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 17:21 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 19:33 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-30 13:36 +1200
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-29 20:38 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 17:18 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-30 09:21 +1000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-30 09:37 +1000
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 19:33 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-30 13:33 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-30 01:55 +0000
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-30 00:10 -0400
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 09:23 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 13:27 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 11:30 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-30 10:34 -0700
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 16:30 -0400
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-30 13:37 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 17:10 -0400
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-30 22:05 +0000
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-30 23:16 +0100
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 02:09 +0000
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-30 17:56 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-31 09:29 -0400
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 06:56 -0700
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-31 11:25 -0400
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-31 16:31 +0100
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-31 12:17 -0400
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-31 14:39 -0700
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 03:01 -0400
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:51 +0000
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 19:18 -0700
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 03:31 -0400
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:25 -0700
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:33 -0400
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:52 -0700
                                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-01 14:56 -0400
                                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 12:01 -0700
                                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-01 15:13 -0400
                                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 12:22 -0700
                                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-01 15:42 -0400
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 12:49 -0700
                                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-08-01 23:09 -0400
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 03:17 +0000
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 03:53 -0400
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 01:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:29 -0400
                                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 15:55 -0400
                                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 13:08 -0700
                                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 16:53 -0400
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 16:00 -0500
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 14:04 -0700
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 14:04 -0700
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 03:56 -0400
                                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 01:14 -0700
                                                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:32 -0400
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 01:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:03 -0400
                                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-02 01:36 +0000
                                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 17:25 -0700
                                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 17:22 -0700
                                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:05 -0400
                                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-02 01:23 +0000
                                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:08 -0400
                                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 01:17 -0700
                                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:33 -0400
                                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 09:25 -0700
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 13:30 -0400
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 10:38 -0700
                                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 13:46 -0400
                                                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 10:51 -0700
                                                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 13:57 -0400
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                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 22:10 -0400
                                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 11:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-02 23:15 +0100
                                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 15:21 -0700
                                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-02 23:32 +0100
                                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-03 10:45 +1200
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:43 -0700
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 19:21 -0700
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 01:38 -0700
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:32 -0700
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 16:46 +0000
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-31 13:17 -0400
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-31 20:28 +0100
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-31 16:35 -0400
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 02:34 -0400
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-01 19:01 +1200
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 14:09 +0000
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:10 -0400
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-01 14:12 -0400
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 21:53 +0000
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-08-01 12:18 +1200
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 01:31 -0700
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 14:13 +0000
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:14 -0400
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 15:21 +0000
                                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:48 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:42 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-07-30 22:39 -0500
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:57 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-01 15:45 +1200
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 02:43 -0400
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 02:48 -0400
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-01 19:06 +1200
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 01:41 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:17 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:31 -0400
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-01 15:58 +0000
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:50 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:16 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:24 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:41 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:50 -0700
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 13:29 -0400
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:06 +0000
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:34 -0500
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:48 +0000
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:56 -0500
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 22:22 +0000
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-02 01:44 +0000
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 20:58 -0500
                                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 03:14 +0000
                                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-02 07:13 -0500
                                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 03:11 +0000
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 00:56 +0000
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 03:07 +0000
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 04:02 +0000
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:32 -0500
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 01:01 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:30 -0500
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-02 12:41 +1200
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 19:46 -0500
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-31 01:44 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 06:36 -0700
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 07:59 -0700
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 11:21 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-29 10:58 -0500
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 15:06 +0000
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-26 13:30 -0700
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-07-26 21:11 +0000
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-26 17:28 -0400
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-07-26 15:11 -0700
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2014-07-27 07:28 -0500
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-27 07:54 -0700
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 10:01 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-27 09:31 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 12:16 -0500
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 09:29 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-27 14:53 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-27 15:34 -0700
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 13:29 +1200
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-27 22:00 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 18:20 +1200
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-27 22:04 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-27 22:49 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-27 23:07 -0700
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 18:23 +1200
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-27 23:34 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 18:58 +1200
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-28 08:39 -0700
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-28 09:45 -0700
                                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-29 09:15 +1200
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-28 19:51 -0700
                                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-07-29 06:35 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-07-27 18:32 -0500
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-27 20:36 -0400
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-07-27 23:44 -0500
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-28 09:03 +0200
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 13:32 +1200
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-27 23:14 -0700
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-28 21:32 +0000
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-28 19:51 -0700
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 14:53 +0000
                          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-29 08:44 -0700
                            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 18:00 +0000
                              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-29 11:16 -0700
                  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-28 21:22 +0000
                    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 09:36 -0400
                      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-30 08:47 +1200
                        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 17:23 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-27 13:50 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-28 12:58 +0200
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-26 22:53 -0400
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-26 20:25 -0700
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-27 17:00 +1200
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-26 22:57 -0700
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-27 13:27 -0500
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 00:54 +0000

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#62826

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-08-02 01:14 +0000
Message-ID<slrnltoes0.1to1.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#62758
Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like: 
 --> 	 Fri, 1 Aug 2014 13:48:56 -0400 <lrgju8$e9m$1@dont-email.me>
> http://www.avclub.com/article/pinky-and-brains-original-voice-actors-return-swea-207611

That's fucking awesome.

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but gosh, we did that last night.

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#62865

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-08-02 06:53 -0400
Message-ID<lriful$ubf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#62826
On 2014-08-01 21:14:31 -0400, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:

> Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like:
>  --> 	 Fri, 1 Aug 2014 13:48:56 -0400 <lrgju8$e9m$1@dont-email.me>
>> http://www.avclub.com/article/pinky-and-brains-original-voice-actors-return-swea-207611

That's 
>> 
> fucking awesome.

Ssshhhhh...    :: not too loud ::

People will think we're not looking forward, and clinging to the past.

You don't want to start THAT shit storm again...
-- 
“Irony is wasted on the stupid”  -Oscar Wilde

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#62876

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-08-02 13:43 +0000
Message-ID<c44875Fl0npU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#62865
On 2014-08-02, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2014-08-01 21:14:31 -0400, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:
>
>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like:
>>  --> 	 Fri, 1 Aug 2014 13:48:56 -0400 <lrgju8$e9m$1@dont-email.me>
>>> http://www.avclub.com/article/pinky-and-brains-original-voice-actors-return-swea-207611
>
> That's 
>>> 
>> fucking awesome.
>
> Ssshhhhh...    :: not too loud ::
>
> People will think we're not looking forward, and clinging to the past.
>
> You don't want to start THAT shit storm again...

Still going on about that? Speaking of stuck in the past...  : ) 

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#62878

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-08-02 10:05 -0400
Message-ID<lrir82$656$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#62876
On 2014-08-02 13:43:01 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:

> On 2014-08-02, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-08-01 21:14:31 -0400, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:
>> 
>>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like:
>>> --> 	 Fri, 1 Aug 2014 13:48:56 -0400 <lrgju8$e9m$1@dont-email.me>
>>>> http://www.avclub.com/article/pinky-and-brains-original-voice-actors-return-swea-207611

That's

fucking 
>>>> 
>>> awesome.
>> 
>> Ssshhhhh...    :: not too loud ::
>> 
>> People will think we're not looking forward, and clinging to the past.
>> 
>> You don't want to start THAT shit storm again...
> 
> Still going on about that? Speaking of stuck in the past...  : )

Being stuck suggests that you're incapable of moving on...

It's a whole 'nother thing to be there by choice.
-- 
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prolonging the problem.

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#62880

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-08-02 14:52 +0000
Message-ID<c44c98Flt6gU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#62878
On 2014-08-02, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2014-08-02 13:43:01 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>
>> Still going on about that? Speaking of stuck in the past...  : )
>
> Being stuck suggests that you're incapable of moving on...
>
> It's a whole 'nother thing to be there by choice.

Addicts use similar rationalizations... "I can quit any time I want!"

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#62882

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-08-02 12:04 -0400
Message-ID<lrj26j$naf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#62880
On 2014-08-02 14:52:24 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:

> On 2014-08-02, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-08-02 13:43:01 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>> 
>>> Still going on about that? Speaking of stuck in the past...  : )
>> 
>> Being stuck suggests that you're incapable of moving on...
>> 
>> It's a whole 'nother thing to be there by choice.
> 
> Addicts use similar rationalizations... "I can quit any time I want!"

I quit the dock pretty successfully...
-- 
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worse every time Congress meets." - Will Rogers

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#62928

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-08-03 00:05 +0000
Message-ID<lrjucl$n5s$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#62880
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> writes:

> Addicts use similar rationalizations... "I can quit any time I want!"

Riddle me this - who is talking about quitting?

Addicts (I know, I work with more than few) rationalize by saying,
"It makes my life better (than it would be without it)."

Christopher Hitchens and tobacco is the classic example.  He died
from cancer, but he was unwavering in his point of view to the end.

Billy Y..
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#62934

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-08-03 01:14 +0000
Message-ID<c45go9Ft4p0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#62928
On 2014-08-03, billy@MIX.COM <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> writes:
>
>> Addicts use similar rationalizations... "I can quit any time I want!"
>
> Riddle me this - who is talking about quitting?

"Addicts" - I figured that was clear.

> Addicts (I know, I work with more than few) rationalize by saying,
> "It makes my life better (than it would be without it)."

Addicts also rationalize by saying "I can quit any time I want".

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#62783

FromAlan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Date2014-08-01 11:48 -0700
Message-ID<lrgndd$51g$1@news.datemas.de>
In reply to#62752
On 2014-08-01 16:17:55 +0000, FPP said:

>>> 
>>> In article <lrfj4v$jc7$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
>>> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In the mean time, how about admitting that the feature of the classic
>>>> menu upon which you CHOSE to turn your argument for it being essential
>>>> to your use of a Mac also exists in the Dock?
> 
> I implied the dock was fugly, and actually SAID that it took up 
> valuable real estate on my desktop, whereas the Apple menu wasn't, and 
> didn't.
> 
> You've taken offense because I don't like the dock, and you've made a 
> molehill (what I referred to as "a minor annoyance") into a mountain 
> (what you referred to as "your argument for it being essential to your 
> use of a Mac").

Nope. I've taken offense, because I tried to point out to you that the 
thing you claimed you'd have to give up...

("With a single click, I can literally navigate to any folder or file 
in any of the 9 volumes on my system, and related network.  Tell me why 
I should give that up?")

...was still available in the Dock...

...and then rather than examine what I said to you, you decided to be a dick.

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#62825

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-08-02 01:10 +0000
Message-ID<slrnltoek8.1to1.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#62752
Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like: 
 --> 	 Fri, 1 Aug 2014 12:17:55 -0400 <lrgejj$73r$1@dont-email.me>
>>> In article <lrfj4v$jc7$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
>>> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In the mean time, how about admitting that the feature of the classic
>>>> menu upon which you CHOSE to turn your argument for it being essential
>>>> to your use of a Mac also exists in the Dock?

> I implied the dock was fugly, and actually SAID that it took up 
> valuable real estate on my desktop, whereas the Apple menu wasn't, and 
> didn't.

But the dock doesn’t have to take up any space at all on the screen.

> You've taken offense because I don't like the dock,

I think it is more the hanging on to 20+ year old Apple menu

>>> Or by not trying to pretend that OS X is OS 9. That's an option.

> Since when is using an app that's a perfect fit for your personal 
> workflow "pretending" to do anything?

Since it is an app that replicates a long-abandoned feature of the OS.
Ther are many ways, and nearly all of them better, to replicate (and far
exceed) the capabilities of the old Apple Menu.

> Mind you, this is all happening while I'm running a beta release of a 
> new OS that's still months away.

> Hah, that's some clinging to old technology, that is...

Plenty of people can be looking forward and clinging to the past. In
fact, I'd say it happens more often than not.

-- 
Worlds of belief, she [Susan] thought. Just like oysters. A little piece
of shit gets in and then a pearl grows around it. --Hogfather

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#62860

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-08-02 04:22 -0400
Message-ID<lri73p$f8e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#62825
On 2014-08-01 21:10:21 -0400, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:

> Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like:
>  --> 	 Fri, 1 Aug 2014 12:17:55 -0400 <lrgejj$73r$1@dont-email.me>
>>>> In article <lrfj4v$jc7$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
>>>> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> In the mean time, how about admitting that the feature of the classic
>>>>> menu upon which you CHOSE to turn your argument for it being essential
>>>>> to your use of a Mac also exists in the Dock?
> 
>> I implied the dock was fugly, and actually SAID that it took up
>> valuable real estate on my desktop, whereas the Apple menu wasn't, and
>> didn't.
> 
> But the dock doesn’t have to take up any space at all on the screen.

If you're going to use it, it has to take up some space.

> 
>> You've taken offense because I don't like the dock,
> 
> I think it is more the hanging on to 20+ year old Apple menu
> 
>>>> Or by not trying to pretend that OS X is OS 9. That's an option.
> 
>> Since when is using an app that's a perfect fit for your personal
>> workflow "pretending" to do anything?
> 
> Since it is an app that replicates a long-abandoned feature of the OS.
> Ther are many ways, and nearly all of them better, to replicate (and far
> exceed) the capabilities of the old Apple Menu.

Different, maybe... but better?  What's better than something that does 
EXACTLY what you want it to do?

Better-er, I guess.   Actually, I use one of them every day.  Dragthing.

Dragthing is extremely customizable, and runs rings around the dock.  
It puts a series of pop-up drawers wherever I want them - in my case, 
along the bottom and left side of the screen.

I have no need for the dock.  How many times, and in how many ways can 
I say that one sentence?

And tell me, if you had a product that could make you feel 10 years 
younger, and grow your hair back, you wouldn't use it because it would 
be replicating your long-abandoned features?

Gimme a break...

> 
>> Mind you, this is all happening while I'm running a beta release of a
>> new OS that's still months away.
> 
>> Hah, that's some clinging to old technology, that is...
> 
> Plenty of people can be looking forward and clinging to the past. In
> fact, I'd say it happens more often than not.

Probably... but I should think you would want to know a little 
something about them before passing judgement.

And how many people can't look back, and see something that was better 
in the past?
-- 
"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - 
Will Rogers

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#62873

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-08-02 13:08 +0000
Message-ID<slrnltpon2.1c6s.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#62860
Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like: 
 --> 	 Sat, 2 Aug 2014 04:22:17 -0400 <lri73p$f8e$1@dont-email.me>
> On 2014-08-01 21:10:21 -0400, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:

>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> was all, like:
>>  --> 	 Fri, 1 Aug 2014 12:17:55 -0400 <lrgejj$73r$1@dont-email.me>
>>>>> In article <lrfj4v$jc7$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
>>>>> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the mean time, how about admitting that the feature of the classic
>>>>>> menu upon which you CHOSE to turn your argument for it being essential
>>>>>> to your use of a Mac also exists in the Dock?
>> 
>>> I implied the dock was fugly, and actually SAID that it took up
>>> valuable real estate on my desktop, whereas the Apple menu wasn't, and
>>> didn't.
>> 
>> But the dock doesn’t have to take up any space at all on the screen.

> If you're going to use it, it has to take up some space.

No, it takes up no space at all. It appears, as if by magic, when I want
to use it (rare as that is), but it doesn't take up any space on the
screen.

>>> You've taken offense because I don't like the dock,
>> 
>> I think it is more the hanging on to 20+ year old Apple menu
>> 
>>>>> Or by not trying to pretend that OS X is OS 9. That's an option.
>> 
>>> Since when is using an app that's a perfect fit for your personal
>>> workflow "pretending" to do anything?
>> 
>> Since it is an app that replicates a long-abandoned feature of the OS.
>> Ther are many ways, and nearly all of them better, to replicate (and far
>> exceed) the capabilities of the old Apple Menu.

> Different, maybe... but better?  What's better than something that does 
> EXACTLY what you want it to do?

Navigating a complicated folder structure via a mouse and submenus that
pop-up as you navigate down is *not* efficient, no matter how much you
like it. That's just one example, of course, but it's the most obvious
one.

> Better-er, I guess.   Actually, I use one of them every day.  Dragthing.

I believe we were talking about some apple menu replacement you run. I'd
have to go look up Dragthing to be reminded of exactly how it works, but
that wasn't the subject I was replying to.

> I have no need for the dock.  How many times, and in how many ways can 
> I say that one sentence?

I hardly ever use the dock, but it does provide many things that I do
need and use (the app is rather more than just a row of icons). I am not
singing the praises of the dock, I am saying there are many other
choices that do not rely on replicating System 7.

Launchbar, for example, let's me do just about anything on my computer
without reaching for the mouse.

> And tell me, if you had a product that could make you feel 10 years 
> younger, and grow your hair back, you wouldn't use it because it would 
> be replicating your long-abandoned features?

If I had a product that turned me into a previous generation of
proto-human like Homo Habilis would I do it? Nope.

> Probably... but I should think you would want to know a little 
> something about them before passing judgement.

I know about apple menu replacements. I find them weird and a step
backward in UI/UX.

> And how many people can't look back, and see something that was better 
> in the past?

I completely disagree that the System 7 Apple menu or its
replacements/enhancements are in any way better than options available
now.

-- 
"A thousand years ago we thought the world was a bowl. Five hundred
years ago we knew it was a globe. Today we know it is flat and round
carried through space on the back of a turtle. Don't you wonder what
shape it will turn out to be tomorrow?" [Lord Vetinari]

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#62877

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-08-02 06:47 -0700
Message-ID<020820140647575723%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#62860
In article <lri73p$f8e$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> > But the dock doesn¹t have to take up any space at all on the screen.
> 
> If you're going to use it, it has to take up some space.

Only when you're using it; at all other times, it doesn't take up any
space at all.

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#62879

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-08-02 10:38 -0400
Message-ID<lrit5a$jmg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#62877
On 2014-08-02 13:47:57 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:

> In article <lri73p$f8e$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> But the dock doesn¹t have to take up any space at all on the screen.
>> 
>> If you're going to use it, it has to take up some space.
> 
> Only when you're using it; at all other times, it doesn't take up any
> space at all.

This is getting existential.  You seem to think that I'm looking for a 
way to co-exist with the dock.  I appreciate the advice... but, no 
matter where the dock is placed, I'm not going to use it.  The issue 
isn't that it takes up space.  The issue is that it prevents me from 
working like I want to.

If it's at the bottom of my screen, when I go to open a drawer which 
are also located at the bottom of the screen - both the drawer and the 
dock pop-up together.  You can't get to the items in the drawer because 
the dock obscures them.

Left side... same thing.  Right side... sometimes same thing.

Sure, I could also push my dresser in between the couch and the TV - 
and just move the dresser when I wanted to watch a show... but why 
would I want to do that?  It's a nice dresser.  It's useful.  It stores 
my clothes neatly... but it doesn't belong in between me and something 
I want to use.  That's the dock.

I used to have an application that shrunk the dock down to 2 pixels in 
size, and that worked pretty well.  You had to hit those 2 pixels 
exactly in order to trigger the dock.  I've forgotten what it was...

Dragthing makes my life easier.  Classic Menu makes my life easier.  
The dock doesn't.  There's nothing I need it for, and in order to use 
it, I'd have to give up something that does exactly what I want it to 
do, the way I want it to be done.

I wonder if people would like ClassicMenu if it wasn't named that?  If 
it had a shiny new icon, and it's own Facebook page and Twitter 
account.  Maybe a video on YouTube with a 20 something wearing a vest, 
skinny jeans, and a porkpie hat?  Then it might even be be "trending" 
someday.  :-)

-- 
Computers are like Old Testaments Gods. Lots of rules and no mercy.

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#62881

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-08-02 07:57 -0700
Message-ID<020820140757497284%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#62879
In article <lrit5a$jmg$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>> But the dock doesn1t have to take up any space at all on the screen.
> >> 
> >> If you're going to use it, it has to take up some space.
> > 
> > Only when you're using it; at all other times, it doesn't take up any
> > space at all.
> 
> This is getting existential.  You seem to think that I'm looking for a 
> way to co-exist with the dock.

No, I don't care whether you use the Dock or not; I'm merely trying to
counter inaccuracies in what you say about the Dock.

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#62886

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2014-08-02 13:11 -0400
Message-ID<lrj64j$jfe$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#62881
On 2014-08-02 14:57:49 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:

> In article <lrit5a$jmg$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> But the dock doesn1t have to take up any space at all on the screen.
>>>> 
>>>> If you're going to use it, it has to take up some space.
>>> 
>>> Only when you're using it; at all other times, it doesn't take up any
>>> space at all.
>> 
>> This is getting existential.  You seem to think that I'm looking for a
>> way to co-exist with the dock.
> 
> No, I don't care whether you use the Dock or not; I'm merely trying to
> counter inaccuracies in what you say about the Dock.

Ummm...  I said "If you're going to use it, it has to take up some space."

Then it was stated "Only when you're using it; at all other times, it 
doesn't take up any space at all."

Where is either of those statements inaccurate, or contradictory?  Both 
of those statements are saying the same thing.

I even said "The issue isn't that it takes up space.  The issue is that 
it prevents me from working like I want to."

I said that it takes up real estate, and that it's in my way... and I 
explained why.  But I don't recall ever saying that it took up space 
when it wasn't in use.

Christ, this place is getting weird in it's old age.  You want to talk 
about correcting inaccuracies?  Let me correct a few.

I mentioned that I thought it odd that the OS wouldn't let you delete 
apps like Chess.  My exact words were "Do you know that you can't even 
get rid of useless apps like "Chess"?"  That's all I said.  No 
judgement, outside of my saying chess is useless.  Well, it's a game... 
of course it's useless.  Enjoyable, challenging maybe, but pretty 
useless in that it doesn't do anything.

In an instant, that became:

"No shit. The things that get people's panties twisted amaze me
> sometimes. If I let little stupid things like this get me upset, I'd
> probably get nothing productive done with my computers. Lucky me. : )"

My, God... but where were my panties in a twist?

In the very next post, I got "Oh, no! Approximately 7MB on my 500GB 
drive I can't get back!  How ever will I live?"

Did anybody see me say anything about worrying about 7MB?  No, because 
I never said it... but I got ragged on for it.
I have 6 Terabytes internal storage, and a docking station that lets me 
use 12 old HD's as external storage.  That's another 5 terabytes of 
external storage.  Why would I be complaining about a few megs of 
storage?

Someone else tells me: "Frankly, there are soooo many better options 
that resurrecting the Apple
>> menu that I am really surprised anyone is still putting forth effort on
>> resurrecting a bit of System 7."

Then: "No, I said it to a guy who refuses to let go of the ancient Apple
> menu paradigm when other (some better) options exist. ; ) Nice try,
> though."

But they NEVER tell me what those soooo many better options are, do 
they?  System 7?  What, wasn't the Apple menu just around in OS9?  Talk 
about inaccuracies.

> Since it is an app that replicates a long-abandoned feature of the OS.
> There are many ways, and nearly all of them better, to replicate (and far
> exceed) the capabilities of the old Apple Menu.

So, I keep asking... what the fuck are all these amazing apps that are 
so much better than what I'm using?  Cause people keep telling me that 
they exist, but apparently it's a State Secret as to what they are.  Am 
I the only one not in the club?  Do I need to figure out a secret 
handshake or something?

So, if you want to talk about correcting inaccuracies... I've got 
bushel baskets full of crap that's being attributed to me that simply 
did not happen.  And it KEEPS happening.

I'm "clinging" to old technology.  I'm "living in the past".  I 
kidnapped the Lindbergh baby...  (don't worry,  I'm sure that's 
coming.)  My eyes must be "getting old" because I say the new system 
font is harder to read - even after I posted an assessment of exactly 
WHY it's harder to read by a typography expert, professor and author 
who says "It's definitely harder to read," and "Helvetica Neue doesn't 
have the legibility that Lucida Grande has."

I got: "The key difference is I am not complaining that things have 
changed, while you are. ; )"

I post a color illusion, and I get:  "And in back in real life, that 
particular illustration of that illusion
>>> is WRONG.  A and B are NOT exactly the same colour"

Even AFTER I post the proof from an MIT professor!  M-I-fucking-T isn't 
good enough for some people.  (Not you... but you-know-who.)    But, 
yup, I'm a complainer, all right.

What did I complain about?  I made a few observations, and backed up my 
statements with sources, quotes and detailed explanations supporting 
those assessments... but that just isn't good enough.  In return, I get 
a one or two sentence reply that's unhelpful, unsupported and is in 
reaction to something I never said.

I'm not directing any this vitriol towards you, Michelle.  (Lord knows 
you get enough of that already, without me adding to it.)  But I've 
gotta ask...  Is there anything I've said here that's inaccurate?

If anything, I hate inaccuracies more than you do, mostly because I'm a 
recent victim of them.  I no sooner open my mouth, and I'm at the 
bottom of a pig-pile.

-- 
"Listen, I'm a politician... which means that I'm a cheat and a liar, 
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops." -Hunt 
for Red October

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#62894

FromAlan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Date2014-08-02 10:39 -0700
Message-ID<lrj7o8$h9n$3@news.datemas.de>
In reply to#62886
On 2014-08-02 17:11:48 +0000, FPP said:

> On 2014-08-02 14:57:49 +0000, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:
> 
>> In article <lrit5a$jmg$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> But the dock doesn1t have to take up any space at all on the screen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you're going to use it, it has to take up some space.
>>>> 
>>>> Only when you're using it; at all other times, it doesn't take up any
>>>> space at all.
>>> 
>>> This is getting existential.  You seem to think that I'm looking for a
>>> way to co-exist with the dock.
>> 
>> No, I don't care whether you use the Dock or not; I'm merely trying to
>> counter inaccuracies in what you say about the Dock.
> 
> Ummm...  I said "If you're going to use it, it has to take up some space."
> 
> Then it was stated "Only when you're using it; at all other times, it 
> doesn't take up any space at all."
> 
> Where is either of those statements inaccurate, or contradictory?  Both 
> of those statements are saying the same thing.
> 
> I even said "The issue isn't that it takes up space.  The issue is that 
> it prevents me from working like I want to."
> 
> I said that it takes up real estate, and that it's in my way... and I 
> explained why.  But I don't recall ever saying that it took up space 
> when it wasn't in use.
> 
> Christ, this place is getting weird in it's old age.  You want to talk 
> about correcting inaccuracies?  Let me correct a few.
> 
> I mentioned that I thought it odd that the OS wouldn't let you delete 
> apps like Chess.  My exact words were "Do you know that you can't even 
> get rid of useless apps like "Chess"?"  That's all I said.  No 
> judgement, outside of my saying chess is useless.  Well, it's a game... 
> of course it's useless.  Enjoyable, challenging maybe, but pretty 
> useless in that it doesn't do anything.
> 
> In an instant, that became:
> 
> "No shit. The things that get people's panties twisted amaze me
>> sometimes. If I let little stupid things like this get me upset, I'd
>> probably get nothing productive done with my computers. Lucky me. : )"
> 
> My, God... but where were my panties in a twist?
> 
> In the very next post, I got "Oh, no! Approximately 7MB on my 500GB 
> drive I can't get back!  How ever will I live?"
> 
> Did anybody see me say anything about worrying about 7MB?  No, because 
> I never said it... but I got ragged on for it.
> I have 6 Terabytes internal storage, and a docking station that lets me 
> use 12 old HD's as external storage.  That's another 5 terabytes of 
> external storage.  Why would I be complaining about a few megs of 
> storage?
> 
> Someone else tells me: "Frankly, there are soooo many better options 
> that resurrecting the Apple
>>> menu that I am really surprised anyone is still putting forth effort on
>>> resurrecting a bit of System 7."
> 
> Then: "No, I said it to a guy who refuses to let go of the ancient Apple
>> menu paradigm when other (some better) options exist. ; ) Nice try,
>> though."
> 
> But they NEVER tell me what those soooo many better options are, do 
> they?  System 7?  What, wasn't the Apple menu just around in OS9?  Talk 
> about inaccuracies.
> 
>> Since it is an app that replicates a long-abandoned feature of the OS.
>> There are many ways, and nearly all of them better, to replicate (and far
>> exceed) the capabilities of the old Apple Menu.
> 
> So, I keep asking... what the fuck are all these amazing apps that are 
> so much better than what I'm using?  Cause people keep telling me that 
> they exist, but apparently it's a State Secret as to what they are.  Am 
> I the only one not in the club?  Do I need to figure out a secret 
> handshake or something?
> 
> So, if you want to talk about correcting inaccuracies... I've got 
> bushel baskets full of crap that's being attributed to me that simply 
> did not happen.  And it KEEPS happening.
> 
> I'm "clinging" to old technology.  I'm "living in the past".  I 
> kidnapped the Lindbergh baby...  (don't worry,  I'm sure that's 
> coming.)  My eyes must be "getting old" because I say the new system 
> font is harder to read - even after I posted an assessment of exactly 
> WHY it's harder to read by a typography expert, professor and author 
> who says "It's definitely harder to read," and "Helvetica Neue doesn't 
> have the legibility that Lucida Grande has."
> 
> I got: "The key difference is I am not complaining that things have 
> changed, while you are. ; )"
> 
> I post a color illusion, and I get:  "And in back in real life, that 
> particular illustration of that illusion
>>>> is WRONG.  A and B are NOT exactly the same colour"
> 
> Even AFTER I post the proof from an MIT professor!  M-I-fucking-T isn't 
> good enough for some people.  (Not you... but you-know-who.)    But, 
> yup, I'm a complainer, all right.
> 
> What did I complain about?  I made a few observations, and backed up my 
> statements with sources, quotes and detailed explanations supporting 
> those assessments... but that just isn't good enough.  In return, I get 
> a one or two sentence reply that's unhelpful, unsupported and is in 
> reaction to something I never said.
> 
> I'm not directing any this vitriol towards you, Michelle.  (Lord knows 
> you get enough of that already, without me adding to it.)  But I've 
> gotta ask...  Is there anything I've said here that's inaccurate?
> 
> If anything, I hate inaccuracies more than you do, mostly because I'm a 
> recent victim of them.  I no sooner open my mouth, and I'm at the 
> bottom of a pig-pile.

Maybe if you stopped saying stupid things whenever you open your mouth...

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#62917

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-08-02 23:09 +0100
Message-ID<020820142309076378%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#62894
In article <lrj7o8$h9n$3@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
<alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

[unnecessary stuff snipped]

> Maybe if you stopped saying stupid things whenever you open your mouth...

Maybe if you learnt to snip we'd all be better off ...

-- 
"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#62920

FromAlan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Date2014-08-02 15:15 -0700
Message-ID<lrjnu9$n4$1@news.datemas.de>
In reply to#62917
On 2014-08-02 22:09:07 +0000, Tim Streater said:

> In article <lrj7o8$h9n$3@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> 
> [unnecessary stuff snipped]
> 
>> Maybe if you stopped saying stupid things whenever you open your mouth...
> 
> Maybe if you learnt to snip we'd all be better off ...

Sorry... ...my bad.

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#62901

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-08-02 13:58 -0400
Message-ID<020820141358500278%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#62886
In article <lrj64j$jfe$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>>>> But the dock doesn1t have to take up any space at all on the screen.
> >>>> 
> >>>> If you're going to use it, it has to take up some space.
> >>> 
> >>> Only when you're using it; at all other times, it doesn't take up any
> >>> space at all.
> >> 
> >> This is getting existential.  You seem to think that I'm looking for a
> >> way to co-exist with the dock.
> > 
> > No, I don't care whether you use the Dock or not; I'm merely trying to
> > counter inaccuracies in what you say about the Dock.
> 
> Ummm...  I said "If you're going to use it, it has to take up some space."
> 
> Then it was stated "Only when you're using it; at all other times, it 
> doesn't take up any space at all."
> 
> Where is either of those statements inaccurate, or contradictory?  Both 
> of those statements are saying the same thing.

they're playing word games.

you can't click a dock item you can't see, so obviously the dock *must*
take up space to be used.

it can be set to auto-hide but that is a separate feature.

> I even said "The issue isn't that it takes up space.  The issue is that 
> it prevents me from working like I want to."
> 
> I said that it takes up real estate, and that it's in my way... and I 
> explained why.  But I don't recall ever saying that it took up space 
> when it wasn't in use.
> 
> Christ, this place is getting weird in it's old age.  You want to talk 
> about correcting inaccuracies?  Let me correct a few.
> 
> I mentioned that I thought it odd that the OS wouldn't let you delete 
> apps like Chess.  My exact words were "Do you know that you can't even 
> get rid of useless apps like "Chess"?"  That's all I said.  No 
> judgement, outside of my saying chess is useless.  Well, it's a game... 
> of course it's useless.  Enjoyable, challenging maybe, but pretty 
> useless in that it doesn't do anything.

chess is certainly not *required* by os x. 

in fact, none of the apps in the apps folder are actually required,
except maybe the app store app, but even that is not required since
users can easily obtain apps from elsewhere. 

it's convenient that some apps are included and some of them are
reasonably good, but most of them aren't, nor are they used much, if at
all.

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