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  Forgetting passwords Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-02 09:41 -0400
    Re: Forgetting passwords Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 13:50 +0000
      Re: Forgetting passwords Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 10:00 -0400
        Re: Forgetting passwords Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-02 07:48 -0700
        Re: Forgetting passwords dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-03 06:51 +1100
        Re: Forgetting passwords J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-05 21:39 -0400
          Re: Forgetting passwords dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-06 15:17 +1000
          Re: Forgetting passwords Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-06 09:17 -0400
            Re: Forgetting passwords Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-06 06:58 -0700
              Re: Forgetting passwords Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-06 12:46 -0400
            Re: Forgetting passwords Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-07 08:59 +1200
            Re: Forgetting passwords Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-07 02:43 +0000
              Re: Forgetting passwords Ymir <agisaak.spamblock@gmail.com> - 2015-04-06 20:57 -0600
      Re: Forgetting passwords Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-02 07:48 -0700
        Re: Forgetting passwords Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-02 14:54 +0000
          Re: Forgetting passwords dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2015-04-03 19:01 +0100
            Re: Forgetting passwords Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-03 11:54 -0700
            Re: Forgetting passwords Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-04 09:43 +1200
              Re: Forgetting passwords Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-03 13:49 -0700
              Re: Forgetting passwords tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-05 22:12 +0000
      Re: Forgetting passwords Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-04-02 11:54 -0400
      Re: Forgetting passwords tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-05 22:10 +0000
    Re: Forgetting passwords Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-02 14:05 +0000
    Re: Forgetting passwords Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-02 10:47 -0400
    Re: Forgetting passwords Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-02 14:51 +0000
      Re: Forgetting passwords tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-05 22:16 +0000
        Re: Forgetting passwords Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-06 11:55 +1200
    Re: Forgetting passwords Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-03 08:28 +1200
      Re: Forgetting passwords Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 21:36 +0000
    Re: Forgetting passwords awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-04-07 08:03 -0700
    Re: Forgetting passwords Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-09 23:37 -0700

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#72551 — Forgetting passwords

It's not Alzheimers (yet), but I'm rapidly approaching a crisis with 
forgetting passwords.  I have four "computers" which I currently use 
for logging on to web sites: Apple desktop (MacPro), Apple laptop 
(Macbook Pro), iPhone (6+), iPad (2).  My desktop seems to be doing a 
good job remembering my logins, so I don't have to enter them.  But it 
is not communicating with the other 3 devices, so when I set up a new 
password on my desktop, I would like the other 3 to immedialy have them 
(encrypted, of course).

Does anyone know of a program, or settings, or a process that can give 
me that?  Then I can continue to turn stupid without too much 
punishment.

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#72552

On 2015-04-02, Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> It's not Alzheimers (yet), but I'm rapidly approaching a crisis with
> forgetting passwords.  I have four "computers" which I currently use
> for logging on to web sites: Apple desktop (MacPro), Apple laptop
> (Macbook Pro), iPhone (6+), iPad (2).  My desktop seems to be doing a
> good job remembering my logins, so I don't have to enter them.  But it
> is not communicating with the other 3 devices, so when I set up a new
> password on my desktop, I would like the other 3 to immedialy have them
> (encrypted, of course).
>
> Does anyone know of a program, or settings, or a process that can give
> me that?  Then I can continue to turn stupid without too much
> punishment.
>
1Password.

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#72553

In article <co4vp2FbnvuU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2015-04-02, Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > It's not Alzheimers (yet), but I'm rapidly approaching a crisis with
> > forgetting passwords.  I have four "computers" which I currently use
> > for logging on to web sites: Apple desktop (MacPro), Apple laptop
> > (Macbook Pro), iPhone (6+), iPad (2).  My desktop seems to be doing a
> > good job remembering my logins, so I don't have to enter them.  But it
> > is not communicating with the other 3 devices, so when I set up a new
> > password on my desktop, I would like the other 3 to immedialy have them
> > (encrypted, of course).
> >
> > Does anyone know of a program, or settings, or a process that can give
> > me that?  Then I can continue to turn stupid without too much
> > punishment.
> >
> 1Password.

Yeah, and I keep a printed list of passwords in my desk. Hackers can't 
get into my drawers ...
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#72559

In article <551d4b82$0$1931$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <co4vp2FbnvuU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2015-04-02, Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > It's not Alzheimers (yet), but I'm rapidly approaching a crisis with
> > > forgetting passwords.  I have four "computers" which I currently use
> > > for logging on to web sites: Apple desktop (MacPro), Apple laptop
> > > (Macbook Pro), iPhone (6+), iPad (2).  My desktop seems to be doing a
> > > good job remembering my logins, so I don't have to enter them.  But it
> > > is not communicating with the other 3 devices, so when I set up a new
> > > password on my desktop, I would like the other 3 to immedialy have them
> > > (encrypted, of course).
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a program, or settings, or a process that can give
> > > me that?  Then I can continue to turn stupid without too much
> > > punishment.
> > >
> > 1Password.
> 
> Yeah, and I keep a printed list of passwords in my desk. Hackers can't 
> get into my drawers ...

But your lover(s) can.

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#72571

In article <551d4b82$0$1931$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com>,
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Does anyone know of a program, or settings, or a process that can give
> > > me that?  Then I can continue to turn stupid without too much
> > > punishment.
> > >
> > 1Password.
> 
> Yeah, and I keep a printed list of passwords in my desk. Hackers can't 
> get into my drawers ...

I keep a list in a dmg - offline - that requires a password, so I only 
need remember one. But I guess you are right, not as secure in some 
ways as on paper in a drawer!

I have tried over the years to just have one password for everything 
but it has not worked out quite like that! Mostly one does not need 
really strong ones and quick keyboard entry is the main requirement. 
But you tend to think it worth it to have long and tricky ones to 
access money matters.

-- 
dorayme

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#72705

On 4/2/15, 10:00 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <co4vp2FbnvuU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-04-02, Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > It's not Alzheimers (yet), but I'm rapidly approaching a crisis with
>> > forgetting passwords.  I have four "computers" which I currently use
>> > for logging on to web sites: Apple desktop (MacPro), Apple laptop
>> > (Macbook Pro), iPhone (6+), iPad (2).  My desktop seems to be doing a
>> > good job remembering my logins, so I don't have to enter them.  But it
>> > is not communicating with the other 3 devices, so when I set up a new
>> > password on my desktop, I would like the other 3 to immedialy have them
>> > (encrypted, of course).
>> >
>> > Does anyone know of a program, or settings, or a process that can give
>> > me that?  Then I can continue to turn stupid without too much
>> > punishment.
>> >
>> 1Password.
>
> Yeah, and I keep a printed list of passwords in my desk. Hackers can't
> get into my drawers ...

I keep things simple by using the same password for all my accounts.  I 
keep it on a paper in my drawer under my snapit alert.  It used to peep 
when I opened the drawer.

That's three levels of protection: having a password, keeping it out of 
sight, and covering it with an alarm that would peep if the 9-volt 
battery connector weren't broken.

Call me Mr. Security, but I have two more levels of protection. I wrote 
it backwards.  How many hackers go around with a mirror when they look 
in people's drawers?

If he had a mirror, he'd still be out of luck.  Before committing it to 
paper, I translated mentally it into an extinct language.  It says 
"asswordpay." No modern hacking academy has a Pig Latin Studies Program.

I hope I don't lose that paper. When I'm asked for my password, 
sometimes I have to refresh my memory.

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#72712

In article <mfso2o$a88$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> 
wrote:

> I keep things simple by using the same password for all my accounts.  I 
> keep it on a paper in my drawer under my snapit alert.  It used to peep 
> when I opened the drawer.
> 
> That's three levels of protection: having a password, keeping it out of 
> sight, and covering it with an alarm that would peep if the 9-volt 
> battery connector weren't broken.
> 
> Call me Mr. Security, but I have two more levels of protection. I wrote 
> it backwards.  How many hackers go around with a mirror when they look 
> in people's drawers?
> 
> If he had a mirror, he'd still be out of luck.  Before committing it to 
> paper, I translated mentally it into an extinct language.  It says 
> "asswordpay." No modern hacking academy has a Pig Latin Studies Program.
> 
> I hope I don't lose that paper. When I'm asked for my password, 
> sometimes I have to refresh my memory.

What was your address again?

-- 
dorayme

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#72720

In article <mfso2o$a88$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> 
wrote:

> Call me Mr. Security, but I have two more levels of protection. I wrote 
> it backwards.  How many hackers go around with a mirror when they look 
> in people's drawers?

That's not so secure. I encrypt the info with a method called Rot-13 
that very few people have heard of.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#72723

In article <55228779$0$20146$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <mfso2o$a88$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Call me Mr. Security, but I have two more levels of protection. I wrote 
> > it backwards.  How many hackers go around with a mirror when they look 
> > in people's drawers?
> 
> That's not so secure. I encrypt the info with a method called Rot-13 
> that very few people have heard of.

But do you do it twice for double the security?

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#72729

In article <060420150658401799%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <55228779$0$20146$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>,
> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <mfso2o$a88$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Call me Mr. Security, but I have two more levels of protection. I wrote 
> > > it backwards.  How many hackers go around with a mirror when they look 
> > > in people's drawers?
> > 
> > That's not so secure. I encrypt the info with a method called Rot-13 
> > that very few people have heard of.
> 
> But do you do it twice for double the security?

Of course! Bet you can't read this.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#72736

In article <55228779$0$20146$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <mfso2o$a88$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Call me Mr. Security, but I have two more levels of protection. I wrote 
> > it backwards.  How many hackers go around with a mirror when they look 
> > in people's drawers?
> 
> That's not so secure. I encrypt the info with a method called Rot-13 
> that very few people have heard of.

Rot-97 is more secure.  ;-)

Even more secure is Rot-Word where you replace each word with the one
that comes after it in the dictionary ... of course you then need to
carry that same dictionary around with you to be able to decode it.

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#72758

In message <55228779$0$20146$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <mfso2o$a88$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> 
> wrote:

>> Call me Mr. Security, but I have two more levels of protection. I wrote 
>> it backwards.  How many hackers go around with a mirror when they look 
>> in people's drawers?

> That's not so secure. I encrypt the info with a method called Rot-13 
> that very few people have heard of.

ROT-13 is no good. It has the same basic flaw as the Enigma engine in
that a character can never encode as itself. This gives people like Alan
Turing the wedge they need to break the encryption.

-- 
Han : You said you wanted to be around when I made a mistake, well, this
could be it, sweetheart. Leia: I take it back.

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#72760

In article <slrnmi6h42.28r5.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <55228779$0$20146$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com> 
>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <mfso2o$a88$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> 
> > wrote:
> 
> >> Call me Mr. Security, but I have two more levels of protection. I wrote 
> >> it backwards.  How many hackers go around with a mirror when they look 
> >> in people's drawers?
> 
> > That's not so secure. I encrypt the info with a method called Rot-13 
> > that very few people have heard of.
> 
> ROT-13 is no good. It has the same basic flaw as the Enigma engine in
> that a character can never encode as itself. This gives people like Alan
> Turing the wedge they need to break the encryption.

That's why I always use the much more powerful ROT-26.

Andre

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#72558

In article <co4vp2FbnvuU1@mid.individual.net>, Tom Stiller
<clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2015-04-02, Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > It's not Alzheimers (yet), but I'm rapidly approaching a crisis with
> > forgetting passwords.  I have four "computers" which I currently use
> > for logging on to web sites: Apple desktop (MacPro), Apple laptop
> > (Macbook Pro), iPhone (6+), iPad (2).  My desktop seems to be doing a
> > good job remembering my logins, so I don't have to enter them.  But it
> > is not communicating with the other 3 devices, so when I set up a new
> > password on my desktop, I would like the other 3 to immedialy have them
> > (encrypted, of course).
> >
> > Does anyone know of a program, or settings, or a process that can give
> > me that?  Then I can continue to turn stupid without too much
> > punishment.
> >
> 1Password.

Or Apple's Keychain.

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#72562

On 2015-04-02, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <co4vp2FbnvuU1@mid.individual.net>, Tom Stiller
><clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-04-02, Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > It's not Alzheimers (yet), but I'm rapidly approaching a crisis with
>> > forgetting passwords.  I have four "computers" which I currently use
>> > for logging on to web sites: Apple desktop (MacPro), Apple laptop
>> > (Macbook Pro), iPhone (6+), iPad (2).  My desktop seems to be doing a
>> > good job remembering my logins, so I don't have to enter them.  But it
>> > is not communicating with the other 3 devices, so when I set up a new
>> > password on my desktop, I would like the other 3 to immedialy have them
>> > (encrypted, of course).
>> >
>> > Does anyone know of a program, or settings, or a process that can give
>> > me that?  Then I can continue to turn stupid without too much
>> > punishment.
>> >
>> 1Password.
>
> Or Apple's Keychain.

I prefer iCloud Keychain personally. Apple's iCloud Keychain is free and
built into the OS. Solutions like 1Password aren't free and aren't built
in. There are free third-party solutions, like LastPass
(http://lastpass.com) that allow you to use them with non-Apple devices,
but Gary didn't mention any non-Apple devices.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#72612

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-04-02, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > In article <co4vp2FbnvuU1@mid.individual.net>, Tom Stiller
> ><clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-04-02, Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > It's not Alzheimers (yet), but I'm rapidly approaching a crisis with
> >> > forgetting passwords.  I have four "computers" which I currently use
> >> > for logging on to web sites: Apple desktop (MacPro), Apple laptop
> >> > (Macbook Pro), iPhone (6+), iPad (2).  My desktop seems to be doing a
> >> > good job remembering my logins, so I don't have to enter them.  But it
> >> > is not communicating with the other 3 devices, so when I set up a new
> >> > password on my desktop, I would like the other 3 to immedialy have them
> >> > (encrypted, of course).
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone know of a program, or settings, or a process that can give
> >> > me that?  Then I can continue to turn stupid without too much
> >> > punishment.
> >> >
> >> 1Password.
> >
> > Or Apple's Keychain.
> 
> I prefer iCloud Keychain personally. Apple's iCloud Keychain is free and
> built into the OS. Solutions like 1Password aren't free and aren't built
> in. There are free third-party solutions, like LastPass
> (http://lastpass.com) that allow you to use them with non-Apple devices,
> but Gary didn't mention any non-Apple devices.

Apple's keychain would not work in this situation, as it does not
keepthe devices in sync. iCloud Keychain would, of course, work.
-- 
<http://www.decohen.com>
The Labyrinth of the Heart: Changed Myths for Changing Lives 
book and e-book <http://www.decohen.com/labyrinth.htm>
Send e-mail to the Reply-To address, not the From address.

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#72615

In article <1m2auo1.orkd1p12ze4gN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net>, Daniel
Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote:

> Apple's keychain would not work in this situation, as it does not
> keepthe devices in sync. iCloud Keychain would, of course, work.

iCloud Keychain is part of Apple's keychain.

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#72620

In article <1m2auo1.orkd1p12ze4gN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net>, Daniel
Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On 2015-04-02, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > > In article <co4vp2FbnvuU1@mid.individual.net>, Tom Stiller
> > ><clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 2015-04-02, Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > It's not Alzheimers (yet), but I'm rapidly approaching a crisis with
> > >> > forgetting passwords.  I have four "computers" which I currently use
> > >> > for logging on to web sites: Apple desktop (MacPro), Apple laptop
> > >> > (Macbook Pro), iPhone (6+), iPad (2).  My desktop seems to be doing a
> > >> > good job remembering my logins, so I don't have to enter them.  But it
> > >> > is not communicating with the other 3 devices, so when I set up a new
> > >> > password on my desktop, I would like the other 3 to immedialy have them
> > >> > (encrypted, of course).
> > >> >
> > >> > Does anyone know of a program, or settings, or a process that can give
> > >> > me that?  Then I can continue to turn stupid without too much
> > >> > punishment.
> > >> >
> > >> 1Password.
> > >
> > > Or Apple's Keychain.
> > 
> > I prefer iCloud Keychain personally. Apple's iCloud Keychain is free and
> > built into the OS. Solutions like 1Password aren't free and aren't built
> > in. There are free third-party solutions, like LastPass
> > (http://lastpass.com) that allow you to use them with non-Apple devices,
> > but Gary didn't mention any non-Apple devices.
> 
> Apple's keychain would not work in this situation, as it does not
> keepthe devices in sync. iCloud Keychain would, of course, work.

The easiest option is to just use "1234" as your password for
everything ... websites, bank cards, etc.   ;-)

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#72621

In article <040420150943485216%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> The easiest option is to just use "1234" as your password for
> everything ... websites, bank cards, etc.   ;-)

That's too easy for a hacker to guess; try 13579.

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#72695

On 2015-04-03, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
> The easiest option is to just use "1234" as your password for
> everything ... websites, bank cards, etc.   ;-)

DO'H

*runs off to change all of his passwords*

-- 
History repeats itself.  That's one thing wrong with history.

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