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  More Apple quality problems? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-12-30 21:06 -0700
    Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 13:54 +0000
      Re: More Apple quality problems? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-12-31 14:23 +0000
        Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 14:54 +0000
          Re: More Apple quality problems? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-12-31 21:39 +0000
            Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 21:44 +0000
        Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-12-31 16:55 -0500
          Re: More Apple quality problems? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-12-31 17:11 -0500
            Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 22:13 +0000
            Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-12-31 17:45 -0500
              Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 23:09 +0000
                Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-12-31 18:16 -0500
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 00:06 +0000
                    Re: More Apple quality problems? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-12-31 19:15 -0500
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 00:23 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-01 14:04 +0000
                          Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 16:09 +0000
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-01 09:25 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-01 14:20 +0000
                          Re: More Apple quality problems? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-01 15:49 +0000
                            Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-01 23:35 +0000
                              Re: More Apple quality problems? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-02 09:30 +0000
                                Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-02 06:24 -0500
                                Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-03 03:59 +0000
                    Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-01 01:13 -0500
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 16:05 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-01 18:01 -0500
                          Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 23:31 +0000
                            Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-01 18:51 -0500
                              Re: More Apple quality problems? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-02 13:57 +1300
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-02 09:38 +1300
                Re: More Apple quality problems? billy@MIX.COM - 2015-01-01 03:20 +0000
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 04:26 +0000
                Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-01 14:01 +0000
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-01 16:06 +0000
              Re: More Apple quality problems? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-12-31 18:24 -0500
              Re: More Apple quality problems? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-01-01 15:14 -0700
          Re: More Apple quality problems? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-12-31 14:37 -0800
            Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-12-31 17:48 -0500
              Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-12-31 23:08 +0000
    Re: More Apple quality problems? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-02 17:48 -0800
    Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-17 20:21 -0500
      Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-18 01:27 +0000
        Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-18 10:49 -0500
          Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-18 16:16 +0000
            Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-18 12:16 -0500
              Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-18 17:23 +0000
              Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-18 18:19 +0000
                Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-18 15:33 -0500
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-18 20:50 +0000
                    Re: More Apple quality problems? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-18 23:15 +0000
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-01-18 23:33 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-01-18 19:59 -0800
                          Re: More Apple quality problems? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-19 19:24 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-19 19:23 +0000
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-18 19:03 -0500
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-19 19:21 +0000
                          Re: More Apple quality problems? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-19 14:37 -0500
                            Re: More Apple quality problems? unfrostedpoptart <david@therogoffs.com> - 2015-01-19 12:05 -0800
                              Re: More Apple quality problems? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-19 15:11 -0500
                      Re: More Apple quality problems? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-19 11:04 -0500
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-19 19:19 +0000
                        Re: More Apple quality problems? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-20 09:19 +1300
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-18 23:23 +0000
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-18 20:56 -0700
                    Re: More Apple quality problems? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-19 09:28 -0500
                  Re: More Apple quality problems? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-21 21:20 -0800
                    Re: More Apple quality problems? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-22 00:52 -0500

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#68086

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> was all, like:
> In article <slrnmaalus.2j9c.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>>Okay, so one time? In band camp? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> was
>>all, like:
>>> In article <311220141915203730%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
>>> <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>In article <cgjhbsFrc1nU5@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>>>><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > Yes, you'll argue that Apple's marketing examples all show setups where
>>>>> > there are no such peripherals attached.  But in real life, I suspect
>>>>> > that is not the case, and it would explain Tim Cook stating the MacPro
>>>>> > sales are very low.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where did Tim Cook say that Mac Pro sales are very low? I'll wait for
>>>>> your citation. Or are you lying yet again in another lame troll attempt?
>>>>
>>>>the mac pro has never been a top seller. according to apple, 80% of
>>>>their sales are macbooks and the bulk of the remaining 20% is the imac.
>>
>>> And the Mini?
>>
>>I wouldn't be surprised if the new mini is seeing a sales slump. I mean,
>>I bought one, but I was disappointed with the machine that was
>>available.

> We'll prolly buy another soon, to replace SWMBO's 2009 (IIRC) Core 2
> Duo Mini - although we'll most likely keep it to run the slide scanner.
> I'd expect to get the middle range model with a Fusion drive. That
> makes it similar to my 2011 Mini that I added an SSD to.

I strongly recommend that you just get the SSD. Fusion is a OK stopgap,
but it simply does not compare. Also, the bare SSD on the mini is a PCIe
SSD and super fast. Really really fast.

Black Magic test of over 600MB/s write and over 700MB/s read. Those are
not typos.

-- 
Disorder is merely the order you were not looking for." Henri Bergson

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#68098

In article <slrnmabmfd.2psb.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>Okay, so one time? In band camp? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> was
>all, like:

>> We'll prolly buy another soon, to replace SWMBO's 2009 (IIRC) Core 2
>> Duo Mini - although we'll most likely keep it to run the slide scanner.
>> I'd expect to get the middle range model with a Fusion drive. That
>> makes it similar to my 2011 Mini that I added an SSD to.
>
>I strongly recommend that you just get the SSD. Fusion is a OK stopgap,
>but it simply does not compare. Also, the bare SSD on the mini is a PCIe
>SSD and super fast. Really really fast.

Humph. I thought the Fusion drive used the SSD part preferentially.

And am I right thinking that the most recent Mini can't have two
internal drives? When I got my 2011 Mini, I got the low-end model (fats
enough CPU), and had the empty drive slot filled with an SSD. Is this
no longer possible?

-- 
"People don't buy Microsoft for quality, they buy it for compatibility
with what Bob in accounting bought last year. Trace it back - they buy
Microsoft because the IBM Selectric didn't suck much" - P Seebach, afc

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#68101

On 15-01-02 04:30, Tim Streater wrote:

> Humph. I thought the Fusion drive used the SSD part preferentially.

I'm sure other will correct me, but I believe that "Fusion" is limited
to SATA speeds for both the SSD and the spinning rusted platter. When
you get newer macs with SSD only, they have newer, much faster direct
interface to the system.

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#68112

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> was all, like:
> In article <slrnmabmfd.2psb.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>>Okay, so one time? In band camp? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> was
>>all, like:

>>> We'll prolly buy another soon, to replace SWMBO's 2009 (IIRC) Core 2
>>> Duo Mini - although we'll most likely keep it to run the slide scanner.
>>> I'd expect to get the middle range model with a Fusion drive. That
>>> makes it similar to my 2011 Mini that I added an SSD to.
>>
>>I strongly recommend that you just get the SSD. Fusion is a OK stopgap,
>>but it simply does not compare. Also, the bare SSD on the mini is a PCIe
>>SSD and super fast. Really really fast.

> Humph. I thought the Fusion drive used the SSD part preferentially.

Sort of. My fusion drive is nowhere near as fast as a bare SSD.

> And am I right thinking that the most recent Mini can't have two
> internal drives?

Doesn't seem to.

-- 
There is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God,
never was.

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#68065

On 14-12-31 19:06, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Where did Tim Cook say that Mac Pro sales are very low? I'll wait for
> your citation. Or are you lying yet again in another lame troll attempt?

Look back at some of the links to interviews with Tim Cook I have posted
over the last few months. He clearly stated it was a very low volume
product but Apple was keeping it because it filled an important niche.

Long delivery times don't mean much on their own because Apple may have
set production capacity to be very low.

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#68073

On 2015-01-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-12-31 19:06, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Where did Tim Cook say that Mac Pro sales are very low? I'll wait for
>> your citation. Or are you lying yet again in another lame troll attempt?
>
> Look back at some of the links to interviews with Tim Cook I have posted
> over the last few months. He clearly stated it was a very low volume
> product but Apple was keeping it because it filled an important niche.

As far as I know the Mac Pro has never been a high volume product for
Apple. Did you have a point?

> Long delivery times don't mean much on their own because Apple may have
> set production capacity to be very low.

You've said that for years about various products as I recall, and you
were wrong then too.

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#68084

On 15-01-01 11:05, Jolly Roger wrote:

> As far as I know the Mac Pro has never been a high volume product for
> Apple. Did you have a point?

The tone in which Tom Cook explained it, it made it seem like the volume
was REALLY low, but Apple needed to kee the product because the users
were important to Apple.

>> Long delivery times don't mean much on their own because Apple may have
>> set production capacity to be very low.
> 
> You've said that for years about various products as I recall, and you
> were wrong then too.

This is different than a product launch with disposable chinese workers
that you can ramp up to high numbers during first few months and then
reduce, and do this again the next year.

The Mac Pro facility is likely designed to be low volume and Apple sees
no need to increase its capacity to meet temporary demand spikes
(especially since in USA, reducing headcount when demand goes back to
normal is harder than in China).

So if you have one large commercial order for MacPros, it will likely
result in delivery delays for normal customers while Apple fulfills the
orders.

There is nothing sinister about it. It is a small niche market that is
not growing, so Apple sees no reason to grow the capacity of the
assembly facility.

The deisgn of the Pro with lack of expansion has however reduced the
niche even further.

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#68085

On 2015-01-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 15-01-01 11:05, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> As far as I know the Mac Pro has never been a high volume product for
>> Apple. Did you have a point?
>
> The tone in which Tom Cook explained it, it made it seem like the volume
> was REALLY low, but Apple needed to kee the product because the users
> were important to Apple.

So far you haven't shown that anything is any different than it has been
historically for the Mac Pro. You're trolling.

>>> Long delivery times don't mean much on their own because Apple may have
>>> set production capacity to be very low.
>> 
>> You've said that for years about various products as I recall, and you
>> were wrong then too.
>
> This is different

You've no doubt said that each time you made this silly remark about
Apple purposely setting production capacity low. "But this time is
different!" More doom and gloom from the JF troll.

> than a product launch with disposable chinese workers
> that you can ramp up to high numbers during first few months and then
> reduce, and do this again the next year.

If you have evidence that Apple has done what you suggest, then you
should provide it. If not, you should stop saying this lie as if it's a
fact, trollboi.

> The Mac Pro facility is likely designed to be low volume and Apple sees
> no need to increase its capacity to meet temporary demand spikes
> (especially since in USA, reducing headcount when demand goes back to
> normal is harder than in China).

You have absolutely no idea about the design or capacity of the factory.

> So if you have one large commercial order for MacPros, it will likely
> result in delivery delays for normal customers while Apple fulfills the
> orders.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You're just
blowing hot air around.

> There is nothing sinister about it. It is a small niche market that is
> not growing, so Apple sees no reason to grow the capacity of the
> assembly facility.

You don't know the size of the market. You don't know the capacity of
the factory. You don't know Apple's plans. You're full of shit.

> The deisgn of the Pro with lack of expansion has however reduced the
> niche even further.

More bullshit from the bullshitter. You have no idea whether the Mac Pro
market has grown or shrank.

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#68089

On 15-01-01 18:31, Jolly Roger wrote:

> So far you haven't shown that anything is any different than it has been
> historically for the Mac Pro. You're trolling.

Apple has generally not admitted the MacPro was very low volume. Tim
Cook said so explicitely in that interview (and it was about the current
one, not the one before or the time between the two where people held
off buying).

> You've no doubt said that each time you made this silly remark about
> Apple purposely setting production capacity low. "But this time is
> different!" More doom and gloom from the JF troll.

You are taking things out of context just to try very hard to make me
look stupid.  Hopefully people are smart enough to differentiate between
production shortfall during product launch frienzy and setting long term
production capacity on the MacPro to match average demand, which means
that any temporary spike in demand means delivery delays.

> You have absolutely no idea about the design or capacity of the factory.

Built-to-order. That says a lot.  Parts are stoked based on average
order levels in a "just in time" philosphy to keep inventory as low as
possible. But this means that a spike in orders causes delays. This is
basic stuff that you know, but because you are out to insult me, you
conveniently forget.

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#68090

In article <54a5dd84$0$58676$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 15-01-01 18:31, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
> > So far you haven't shown that anything is any different than it has been
> > historically for the Mac Pro. You're trolling.
> 
> Apple has generally not admitted the MacPro was very low volume. Tim
> Cook said so explicitely in that interview (and it was about the current
> one, not the one before or the time between the two where people held
> off buying).

Nonsense ... why would he say "keep" for a brand new product. It's not
like they were going to design it, build it, sell, it and then decide
two weeks later that they may as well "not keep" it.  :-\

He meant the sales of the Mac Pro have always been low volume compared
to say the iMac, or even more so the iOS devices, and that they built a
new model because they wanted to *keep* that product line going.

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#68080

In article <54a4e56e$0$1547$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-12-31 19:06, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > 
> > Where did Tim Cook say that Mac Pro sales are very low? I'll wait for
> > your citation. Or are you lying yet again in another lame troll attempt?
> 
> Look back at some of the links to interviews with Tim Cook I have posted
> over the last few months. He clearly stated it was a very low volume
> product but Apple was keeping it because it filled an important niche.
> 
> Long delivery times don't mean much on their own because Apple may have
> set production capacity to be very low.

He was talking about the previous model, which PARTLY had "low sales"
at that time because buyers were waiting for the new model to be
announced.

The Mac Pro will always be a low seller due to the cost of it and the
fact that most people simply don't need it.

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#68061

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> writes about the Mac Pro:

> They don't slide off desks easily. You're being foolish - as usual.

They weigh 5kg - they're not going anywhere.

Billy Y..
-- 
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	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#68062

On 2015-01-01, billy@MIX.COM <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> writes about the Mac Pro:
>
>> They don't slide off desks easily. You're being foolish - as usual.
>
> They weigh 5kg - they're not going anywhere.

Clearly. The first thing I did when Apple released them was go into my
local Apple store and hold it in my hands. It's sturdy, heavy, and has a
bottom surface that doesn't slide across a desk easily. Anyone who has
seen one in person knows this. JF is being his normal jackass self.

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#68067

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
> On 2014-12-31, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> On 14-12-31 17:11, Alan Browne wrote:
>>
>>> The new Pro is small enough that there is no need to put it on the 
>>> floor.  A desk corner or shelf would be fine and allow more convenient 
>>> access to the USB/TB ports 
>>
>> DO you really know people with enough fee space on desktop to put a
>> MacPro AND NOT BE AFFRAID TO PUSH IT OFF THE DESK as they shuffle stuff
>> around ?

> They don't slide off desks easily. You're being foolish - as usual.

I have all sorts of tings on my desk.

A 27" iMac. a 27" Dell ultrasharp monitor. a 24" Dell monitor. A Drobo
5D. A mediasonic Raidbox. A powerstrip. A low-end celery PC with FreeBSD
on it (not plugged in currently). 8 are drives. um... oh, one of those
40 port USB2/3 hubs, and a keyboard, Trackman, and Apple trackpad.
Probably a few screwdrivers and an extra keyboard.

Know haw many things I've pushed off my desk? Ever?

None.


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#68074

On 2015-01-01, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>> On 2014-12-31, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>> On 14-12-31 17:11, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>
>>>> The new Pro is small enough that there is no need to put it on the 
>>>> floor.  A desk corner or shelf would be fine and allow more convenient 
>>>> access to the USB/TB ports 
>>>
>>> DO you really know people with enough fee space on desktop to put a
>>> MacPro AND NOT BE AFFRAID TO PUSH IT OFF THE DESK as they shuffle stuff
>>> around ?
>
>> They don't slide off desks easily. You're being foolish - as usual.
>
> I have all sorts of tings on my desk.
>
> A 27" iMac. a 27" Dell ultrasharp monitor. a 24" Dell monitor. A Drobo
> 5D. A mediasonic Raidbox. A powerstrip. A low-end celery PC with FreeBSD
> on it (not plugged in currently). 8 are drives. um... oh, one of those
> 40 port USB2/3 hubs, and a keyboard, Trackman, and Apple trackpad.
> Probably a few screwdrivers and an extra keyboard.
>
> Know haw many things I've pushed off my desk? Ever?
>
> None.

JF is trolling as usual. He hates the new Mac Pro and wants to shed it
in as bad a light possible.

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#68056

On 2014.12.31 17:45 , JF Mezei wrote:
> On 14-12-31 17:11, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> The new Pro is small enough that there is no need to put it on the
>> floor.  A desk corner or shelf would be fine and allow more convenient
>> access to the USB/TB ports
>
> DO you really know people with enough fee space on desktop to put a
> MacPro AND NOT BE AFFRAID TO PUSH IT OFF THE DESK as they shuffle stuff
> around ?

It could sit in the pretty empty area behind my monitors and be 
completely free of risk of being accidentally nudged off off.  The new 
Mac Pro is heavy enough that it would take a pretty good shove.   No 
more risk than my iMac being pushed off.

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
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#68082

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> DO you really know people with enough fee space on desktop to put a
> MacPro AND NOT BE AFFRAID TO PUSH IT OFF THE DESK as they shuffle stuff
> around ?

And with that, Mezei becomes the clown car of the comp.sys.mac
newsgroups. 

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#68049

On 12/31/14   PDT 1:55 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> On 14-12-31 09:23, billy@MIX.COM wrote:
>
>> I'd call it a cooling problem, as I'm not seeing this in
>> an air conditioned room with the computers on the floor,
>> where the ambient temperature is lowest (not that we did
>> that for this reason, though).
>
> The new MacPro has a huge design problem in this area, drawing dust from
> the floor and throwing it up. Airflow should be from top to bottom if
> you insist on having a vent at the bottom.

Get a better cleaning plan and execute it.

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#68052

On 14-12-31 17:37, John McWilliams wrote:

>> The new MacPro has a huge design problem in this area, drawing dust from
>> the floor and throwing it up. Airflow should be from top to bottom if
>> you insist on having a vent at the bottom.
> 
> Get a better cleaning plan and execute it.

If someone doesn't realise that the design of the unit draws dust in
more so than it di for previous MacPro, then one doesn't change cleaning
frequency.

Does the average user even know how to open the new MacPro so you can
use some high pressure air to clean the dust out ?

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#68053

On 2014-12-31, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-12-31 17:37, John McWilliams wrote:
>
>>> The new MacPro has a huge design problem in this area, drawing dust from
>>> the floor and throwing it up. Airflow should be from top to bottom if
>>> you insist on having a vent at the bottom.
>> 
>> Get a better cleaning plan and execute it.
>
> If someone doesn't realise that the design of the unit draws dust in
> more so than it di for previous MacPro, then one doesn't change cleaning
> frequency.

And if someone doesn't realize that the new design fits neatly on a
desk, which gives easier access to the ports on the computer, then they
aren't very observant.

> Does the average user even know how to open the new MacPro so you can
> use some high pressure air to clean the dust out ?

The average Mac Pro user knows how to open their Mac Pro. Duh.

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