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Re: iCloud Drive app.

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David Empson wrote:

>Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>> In article <ufmdnXagmb1m7eTInZ2dnUU7-budnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan
>>Browne  <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> > On 2015-06-10 15:30, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> > > It wasn't mentioned in the keynote, so you may not have heard
>>of it.   > >
>> > >
>><http://www.pcworld.com/article/2933072/new-icloud-drive-app-will-le
>>t-io  > > s-9-users-more-easily-manage-files.html>  > >
>> > > New iCloud Drive app will let iOS 9 users more easily manage
>>files  > >
>> > > Users who store files in Apple1s iCloud Drive will have an
>>easier time  > > managing them when iOS 9 launches later this year.
>> > >
>> > > The next update to Apple1s mobile operating system will
>>include an  > > iCloud Drive app that lets people view and manage
>>all of the files  > > stored in Apple1s cloud from a central
>>location. Previously, iOS users  > > could only access those files
>>from inside an app that accessed iCloud  > > Drive, which was
>>released last year in iOS 8. OS X Yosemite, which was  > > released
>>in 2014, let users manage all of their iCloud Drive files in a  > >
>>special folder, similar to functionality offered by Dropbox and
>>other  > > cloud storage providers.   > 
>> > Keep tearing down the garden walls.
>> 
>> But the apostrophes look like "1" in your quote of his text.
>
>Haven't we already had a variant of this discussion? The previous one
>was about the Apple logo character.
>
>I think that what is going on here is that Thoth (which Michelle is
>using) claims to be posting using ISO 8859-1, but it is including some
>illegal characters (the particular 8-bit character code is reserved in
>the official definition of ISO 8859-1).
>
>It appears that there was an old Mac-specific extension of ISO 8859-1
>which used some of those reserved characters, but the only Usenet
>software which understands it is a few Mac newsreaders which date back
>far enough (including at least Thoth and MacSOUP). Some of us are
>therefore able to read the illegal characters as the intended
>apostrophe.
>
>Other platforms and newsreaders (including Thunderbird on a Mac) don't
>understand the character so it gets substituted as a question mark,
>funny looking "1" or similar.
>
>In the previous discussion, the problem was fixed for one message when
>Michelle told Thoth to post using UTF-8, which allowed it to send a
>valid character. That setting didn't stick, and Thoth reverted back to
>bastardised ISO 8859-1 on the next post.
>
>It appears that the only way to fix this permanently would be to ditch
>Thoth, since it is no longer being updated.
>
>Either that or preprocess the text to avoid the particular variant of
>the apostrophe which gets mapped by Thoth to an illegal ISO 8859-1
>character (as well as avoiding the Apple logo and whichever other
>characters get mapped into the reserved range).
>
>I haven't found any documentation explaining this extension to ISO
>8859-1.


I think the problem is more than how Mac-based newsreaders translate
characters.  I see the same problem in emails sent from people in my
organization that use Mac computers.  There are other symbols that get
screwed up too, but I can't remember what they are right now.

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iCloud Drive app. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-10 12:30 -0700
  Re: iCloud Drive app. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2015-06-11 10:10 +0000
    Re: iCloud Drive app. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-11 07:02 -0700
      Re: iCloud Drive app. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2015-06-11 14:20 +0000
        Re: iCloud Drive app. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-11 08:03 -0700
          Re: iCloud Drive app. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2015-06-11 18:39 +0000
            Re: iCloud Drive app. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-11 14:22 -0700
        Re: iCloud Drive app. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-11 17:28 -0700
          Re: iCloud Drive app. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 12:39 +1000
          Re: iCloud Drive app. Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-11 20:31 -0700
            Re: iCloud Drive app. Mark F <mark53916@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 07:49 -0400
          Re: iCloud Drive app. Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-06-13 08:47 -0400
            Re: iCloud Drive app. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-13 06:26 -0700
              Re: iCloud Drive app. Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-06-13 10:04 -0400
                Re: iCloud Drive app. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-13 07:45 -0700
                Re: iCloud Drive app. Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-06-14 08:48 -0400
    Re: iCloud Drive app. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-06-11 18:16 +0000
      Re: iCloud Drive app. David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-06-11 21:45 -0500
  Re: iCloud Drive app. Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-06-11 07:28 -0400
    Re: iCloud Drive app. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-06-11 07:03 -0700
      Re: iCloud Drive app. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-06-12 13:15 +1200
        Re: iCloud Drive app. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 11:05 +0000
          Re: iCloud Drive app. "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 16:11 +0000
      Re: iCloud Drive app. Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-06-13 08:25 -0400

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