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Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard

From Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard
Date 2014-01-15 17:18 +0000
Organization Miskatonic U
Message-ID <slrnlddgne.2cn2.g.kreme@amelia.local> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <do_ray_me-202EDB.11555024122013@news.albasani.net> <barmar-9E1BD6.20363423122013@news.eternal-september.org> <myob476jra.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU> <do_ray_me-F9E3D1.15124214012014@news.albasani.net> <mcmurtrie-EBBAFE.22213913012014@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>

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In message <mcmurtrie-EBBAFE.22213913012014@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au> 
  Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:
> In article <do_ray_me-F9E3D1.15124214012014@news.albasani.net>,
>  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

>> In article <myob476jra.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>,
>>  Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu 
>>  <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> writes:
>> > 
>> > > In article <do_ray_me-202EDB.11555024122013@news.albasani.net>,
>> > >  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > > In article <231220131054487236%jimsgibson@gmail.com>,
>> > > >  Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > 
>> > > > > In article <52b52314$0$10286$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>, JF
>> > > > > Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > > To do the install, I booted from the original Snow Leopard install 
>> > > > > > DVD.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Magic Mouse does not work.  Had to plug in one of the many
>> > > > > > Mighty Mouse I have in a bag (none of which had the ball
>> > > > > > working, but still work as a basic mouse) to get to the menus
>> > > > > > to choose the disk util.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > So, just a word of warning if you are ever in a situation
>> > > > > > where you need to boot off the SL DVD, you need a wired mouse.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > Over this past weekend I installed Snow Leopard on a Mac Pro (1,1) 
>> > > > > from
>> > > > > the original disk and had no problem using the Magic Mouse.
>> > > > 
>> > > > The only issue that is a little bothersome with this mouse that I have 
>> > > > found is that when I turn it off (rarely), I seem to need to restart 
>> > > > the OS for the cursor to come back, turning it back on does not do it. 
>> > > > There are perhaps other ways to accomplish this from Sys Prefs but 
>> > > > have not explored this.
>> > > 
>> > > I've been using Magic Mouse with Snow Leopard for years, and never had 
>> > > that problem. After turning the mouse off and on (mostly just when 
>> > > changing the batteries) I have to click it a few times and it will 
>> > > reconnect.
>> > 
>> > Yes, that's the trick.  Click the Magic Mouse after changing batteries.
>> > 
>> > (You can also reconnect from System Prefs/Mouse if you have that open,
>> > but clicking the mouse is easier.)
>> > 
>> > Don't know why that's necessary.  One doesn't have to type on an Apple
>> > wireless keyboard to make it reconnect after the batteries are
>> > changed, so does one have to "click" the Magic Trackpad in that
>> > situation for it to reconnect.  Maybe they managed to avoid the
>> > mouse's issue when they created the keyboard and trackpad....
>> > 
>> 
>> ....
>> 
>> As it happens, today the mouse just stopped working, put in new 
>> batteries, (twice, even measured the voltage and they are all new), no 
>> cursor! Now even restart does not bring it back. The trackpad on MB 
>> still operates fine, so does an old tethered USB Apple Pro which I am 
>> forced now to use again.
>> 
>> The little green light on my MM flashes continuuously for a very few 
>> secs when turned on, then intermittently in regular pattern (I think 
>> this is normal). 
>> 
>> I note that Bluetooth: Not Available is greyed out in the BT icon to 
>> the right top on my screen, also that there is no BT options in my Sys 
>> Prefs? Are the options triggered by a properly transmitting BT device? 
>> If so, some thing seems to have happened to my mouse? Never been 
>> dropped or anything and is not all that old. Before contacted Apple 
>> where I bought it, anyone got any suggestions?

> Apple's Bluetooth drivers are garbage.  That it stops working is the 
> best you can hope for when it fails.  A2DP headsets often cause a kernel 
> panic when they're turned on or off.  The driver fails to avoid 
> frequencies that are in use so throughput stutters near WiFi.  Devices 
> can get into a bad state where pairing becomes mismatched until manually 
> un-paired and re-paired.  Device browsing rarely works on desktop MacOS 
> and mobile MacOS doesn't even support file transfer.

I use a lot of BT devices with my Macs and have never seen anything like
this.

> It's quite possible that you have a sophisticated BT device (phone, 
> headset, mouse, remote control) or interference in the area that's 
> crashing your driver.  I recommend turning off BT and using a wired 
> mouse.  I've tried using a Magic trackpad on two different laptops at 
> work on different OSes.  It was nothing but stuttering, hangs, and 
> panics in Apple's BT driver.

Nope, nothing like that.

-- 
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THAT. SO SHOULD YOU.  Death still hadn't turned to face her.  'I don't
see why we shouldn't change things if it makes the world better,' said
Susan.  HAH.  'Are you too scared to change the world?' Death turned.
The very sight of his expression made Susan back away.  He advanced
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TO ME? YOU STAND THERE IN YOUR PRETTY DRESS AND SAY THAT TO ME? YOU? YOU
PRATTLE ON ABOUT CHANGING THE WORLD? COULD YOU FIND THE COURAGE TO
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Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-21 00:11 -0500
  Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-12-21 16:19 +0000
    Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-21 15:16 -0500
      Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-22 10:10 +1300
        Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-22 11:14 +1300
  Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-12-23 10:54 -0800
    Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-24 11:55 +1100
      Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-23 20:36 -0500
        Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2013-12-23 18:54 -0800
          Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-14 15:12 +1100
            Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-14 17:47 +1300
              Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-14 17:09 +1100
                Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-14 18:30 +1100
                Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-14 11:35 -0600
                Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-15 07:31 +1100
            Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-01-13 22:21 -0800
              Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-14 18:27 +1100
              Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-14 11:32 -0600
              Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-15 17:18 +0000
            Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-14 11:31 -0600
        Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-24 14:04 +1100
          Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 00:48 -0500
            Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 19:07 +1300
            Re: Warning: Magic Mouse on Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-24 18:53 +1100

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