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Re: firmware password

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:03:59 -0400, Michelle Steiner wrote
(in article <michelle-15D0F2.21035810082012@news.eternal-september.org>):

> In article <slrnk2blqq.144n.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> The firmware password is also easy to defeat, by adding or 
>>>>>> removing a RAM module and then resetting PRAM. So it's rather 
>>>>>> useless protectionif the intruder has physical access to the 
>>>>>> machine.
>>>> 
>>>>> And not necessary if the intruder doesn't have physical access.
>>>> 
>>>> There are degrees of physical access. You might have access to the 
>>>> machine to plug in a drive or put in a DVD, but not be able to open 
>>>> the machine to remove RAM, for example.
>> 
>>> Got an example of how that would happen?
>> 
>> High school computer lab with macbooks that are bolted to a metal plate. 
>> MacPros that have a cable lock through the side panel release, just to 
>> mention two I've seen.
> 
> Someone who would want to hack a computer by removing RAM is not going to 
> be stopped by something like that if he's determined enough.
> 
> 

It would, however, be obvious that he hacked it. And he'd need tools (a bolt 
cutter, for example) and could not possibly say that he'd done this by 
accident. That's also actual physical damage to company/school/whatever 
equipment, and _that_ can and usually will lead to not merely 
termination/expulsion but to criminal prosecution.

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firmware password dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2012-08-10 19:01 +0100
  Re: firmware password me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2012-08-10 18:14 +0000
    Re: firmware password Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-10 11:26 -0700
      Re: firmware password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-10 20:20 +0000
        Re: firmware password Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-10 13:27 -0700
          Re: firmware password nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-10 16:37 -0400
          Re: firmware password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-11 03:54 +0000
            Re: firmware password Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-10 21:03 -0700
              Re: firmware password J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to@but.see.sig> - 2012-08-11 06:23 -0400
                Re: firmware password Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-11 07:39 -0700
                Re: firmware password J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to@but.see.sig> - 2012-08-11 15:24 -0400
                Re: firmware password Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-11 13:41 -0400
                Re: firmware password JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-08-11 14:12 -0400
                Re: firmware password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-11 18:38 +0000
              Re: firmware password nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-11 10:57 -0400
    Re: firmware password Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-10 14:37 -0400
      Re: firmware password me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2012-08-10 23:46 +0000
        Re: firmware password Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2012-08-11 13:21 -0700
      Re: firmware password J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to@but.see.sig> - 2012-08-11 06:23 -0400
    Re: firmware password nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-10 15:11 -0400
  Re: firmware password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-10 20:15 +0000
    Re: firmware password dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2012-08-11 12:18 +0100
  Re: firmware password Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2012-08-11 14:12 -0700
    Re: firmware password Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-11 18:39 -0400
    Re: firmware password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-12 02:22 +0000
    Re: firmware password billy@MIX.COM - 2012-08-12 03:55 +0000
      Re: firmware password dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2012-08-12 14:27 +0100
        Re: firmware password billy@MIX.COM - 2012-08-14 03:06 +0000
          Re: firmware password dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2012-08-14 15:49 +0100

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