Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it?

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it?
Date	2015-04-22 16:52 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<cpq1v5Ft5tjU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References	(7 earlier) <210420152253587119%michelle@michelle.org> <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504220856530.31550@mako.ath.cx> <mh8dqc$fi0$1@news.albasani.net> <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504221037270.31550@mako.ath.cx> <220420150930238316%michelle@michelle.org>

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On 2015-04-22, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504221037270.31550@mako.ath.cx>, David
> Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> > However long "Adam" has been around other news groups, he has been 
>> > around this one under various nyms from "Vinny" to most recently 
>> > "Sunshine" and "Sobriquet," making "inquiries" about how difficult 
>> > it is to use MacOS compared with Linux. He "fails to understand" 
>> > clear instruction about using Mac, claiming that his instructors 
>> > agree with his absurd assertions, and drags out these discussions ad 
>> > nauseam. Those who continue "assisting" him without result are 
>> > partly to blame for the nausea.
>> 
>> This assumes facts not in evidence.  You may believe your assumption, 
>> that everyone who comes from a different OS, expecting OS X to work 
>> exactly the same way things work under Windows or Linux, is the same 
>> individual, but it seems to be a lot to accept on its face.
>
> There is also the matter of writing style; misconstruing suggestions;
> repeating, verbatim; the same text in response to multiple messages;
> picking one person as having understood his problem even though others
> have expressed the same thing as that one person; etc.

I have little doubt "Adam" is our resident Linux dweeb. He can change
his name, but his personality and dimwittedness give him away every
single time. David's defense of him makes me wonder about David...

>> As it happens, I agree with Adam, that the way TextEdit works isn't as 
>> intuitive as having the option of saving a file, in whatever format 
>> one desires, directly from the Save dialog.
>
> It makes more sense to have two modes, one for plain text, and one for
> Rich Text, each of which has its own options for saving.

Indeed - especially when switching between those two modes is as simple
as typing Command-Shift-T or choosing Format > Make Plain/Rich Text from
the menu bar. It also makes more sense from a design point of view. When
you convert from rich to plain text, some aspects such as text styling
(bold/italic/coloring) as well as tab spacing, attached images, and so
on) are adversely affected or completely removed. Doing it in the
document gives the user a chance to actually *see* those effects. Doing
it in the Save dialog offers no such opportunity. The user would have to
re-open the saved document to see the effects. It's a better design that
gives a better user experience.

>> Sure, there be trolls here, but assuming everyone with a basic 
>> question is a troll is counterproductive, no matter how they struggle 
>> with achieving there often unstated or misstated goal.
>
> We do not make that assumption; however, we do arrive at that
> conclusion when the evidence supports it, as it did with "Adam".

Yep.

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