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Re: New old behavior in mail.app

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From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject Re: New old behavior in mail.app
Date 26 Mar 2015 12:41:36 GMT
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2015-03-25, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnmh6e3g.9nl.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>, Lewis
><g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>> >> I've become
>> >> accustomed to Mail, but that doesn't mean I think it's ideal, by any means
>> 
>> > it's slow, buggy and downright awful.

I'd say it's decent, but has some quirks and problems, like any
software. Apple does update it from time to time. I wouldn't call it
awful. It does work well most of the time, and has some nice features I
expect from a mail client. 
 
>> Mail.app handles my 750,000 emails very well, actually. And it is much
>> faster with Eudora which required me to be very careful about large
>> mailboxes because it used a single mbox file to store things.
>
> it takes as much as 10 seconds to sync my mailboxes. filters do not
> work for shit. 

That's not my experience at all. I have 140,000+ emails in my Mail
database, and seven accounts with different providers including my own
email server, iCloud, GMail, and Hotmail. Checking for new mail takes 3
to 6 seconds, iCloud usually taking the longest. I have 19 rules, and
all of them work just fine.

>> I still have one mbox file that Eudora totally fucked up. I keep it
>> because it has some emails in it from the mid 90s to early 2000s from
>> old friends and I can just open the thing in a text editor and find most
>> the bits and pieces I care about, but it would take way too much effort
>> to try and fix that mbox file into separate emails.
>
> did you try one of the eudora utilities? 

Not the point. The point is that Eudora had its own share of problems;
and he's right about that.

>> And Eudora always was piss-poor at IMAP. In fact, I'd go so far as to
>> say that for IMAP, it never actually worked.
>
> imap was not eudora's strength, but that's because eudora goes back to
> before there was imap.

Considering Eudora was in development until 2006, and IMAP was around
back in 1986, that's really not much of an excuse. I wonder if
Thunderbird handles IMAP any better, or just the same.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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New old behavior in mail.app Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-24 20:51 -0700
  Re: New old behavior in mail.app Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-25 06:19 +0000
  Re: New old behavior in mail.app spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-03-25 12:14 +0100
    Re: New old behavior in mail.app Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-25 12:10 +0000
      Re: New old behavior in mail.app Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-03-25 16:22 +0000
      Re: New old behavior in mail.app Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-25 17:20 +0000
        Re: New old behavior in mail.app Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-03-25 21:41 +0000
          Re: New old behavior in mail.app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 17:53 -0400
            Re: New old behavior in mail.app Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-25 22:35 +0000
              Re: New old behavior in mail.app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 18:41 -0400
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-26 03:50 +0000
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 23:59 -0400
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-26 12:44 +0000
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-26 21:55 +0000
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-27 04:08 -0400
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-03-27 13:46 +0000
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-27 22:35 +0000
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-26 12:41 +0000
            Re: New old behavior in mail.app jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-26 12:24 +1300
              Re: New old behavior in mail.app spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-03-26 08:52 +0100
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-26 23:07 +1300
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-27 02:50 +1300
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-03-26 18:35 +0100
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-27 07:36 +1300
                Re: New old behavior in mail.app dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-27 11:42 +1300
            Re: New old behavior in mail.app Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-03-26 19:16 +0000
          Re: New old behavior in mail.app jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-26 12:24 +1300
        Re: New old behavior in mail.app Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-25 21:56 +0000
    Re: New old behavior in mail.app Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-25 08:42 -0700
    Re: New old behavior in mail.app Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-03-25 16:22 +0000
      Re: New old behavior in mail.app Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-25 22:10 +0000

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