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On 2015-02-27, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 15-02-26 23:03, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Interesting that you immediately jump to the conclusion that a system
>> update must be the cause.
>
> Because the laptop changed behaviour (improved) without any other
> changes or reboot to router, reboot to laptop, messing with the system
> preferences etc.

As I already mentioned and you conveniently trimmed because it doesn't
support your "Apple is out to get me" theory, there are plenty of other
potential reasons. I'm not listing them all for you. If you choose to
believe Apple is fucking with your head, so be it.

>> And now it's a "covert" system update from the ever nefarious Apple!
>> Yes, that must be it!
>
> I did not say nefarious.

"Covert" was sufficient. 

*covert*
adjective |ˈkōvərt, kōˈvərt, ˈkəvərt|
1 not openly acknowledged or displayed: covert operations against the
dictatorship.

Either you don't know what that word means, or you are disingenuously
claiming that Apple did not acknowledge or display that the update was
applied, both of which are untrue. 

Systems that were updated displayed a notification stating that the
update was applied, as shown here:

<http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/12/apple-automatically-patches-macs-to-fix-severe-ntp-security-flaw/>

Apple published information about the update on their web site as well:

<http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT6601>

The update was not automatically installed on any Macs running 10.8,
10.9, or 10.10 where the owner did not enable the "Install system data
files and security updates" option in System Preferences > Software
Update / App Store preferences, and the update was not automatically
installed at all on any Macs running 10.7 or earlier. 

Mac users are in full control, and nothing about this is "not openly
acknowledged or displayed" as you claim. This is just more of your
typical Apple trolling on display.

> But you should be aware, and it was revealed that Apple is able and
> has pushed security updates transparently to users, it is one of the
> capabilities that recent versions of OS-X have.

It was revealed? Anyone who has visited System Preferences > Software
Update (10.7) or System Preferences > App Store (10.8, 10.9, or 10.10)
since the year 2011 has seen the option to automatically install
security updates. Apparently you have been living under a rock the past
4 years.

>> App Store > Updates. 
>
> Do those show the updates that are done under the hood without going
> through the App store ?

Of course. The NTP security update was displayed there, along with all
of the rest of them. Apple isn't hiding anything from you.

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JR

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Stealth upgrade ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-26 20:01 -0500
  Re: Stealth upgrade ? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 20:06 -0500
    Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-27 04:03 +0000
    Re: Stealth upgrade ? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-02-26 23:39 -0500
      Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-27 13:37 +0000
        Re: Stealth upgrade ? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-02-27 10:33 -0500
          Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-27 15:44 +0000
          Re: Stealth upgrade ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-27 16:50 +0000
          Re: Stealth upgrade ? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-27 09:14 -0800
            Re: Stealth upgrade ? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-27 16:09 -0500
              Re: Stealth upgrade ? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-27 14:16 -0800
      Re: Stealth upgrade ? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-27 08:47 -0500
        Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-27 14:01 +0000
          Re: Stealth upgrade ? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-27 09:12 -0500
            Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-27 14:15 +0000
        Re: Stealth upgrade ? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-02-27 10:53 -0500
        Re: Stealth upgrade ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-27 11:30 -0500
  Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-27 04:03 +0000
    Re: Stealth upgrade ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-26 23:37 -0500
      Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-27 13:35 +0000
        Re: Stealth upgrade ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-27 16:30 -0500
          Re: Stealth upgrade ? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-27 22:36 +0000
            Re: Stealth upgrade ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-27 18:40 -0500
          Re: Stealth upgrade ? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-02-28 12:51 +1300
            Re: Stealth upgrade ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-27 19:03 -0500
              Re: Stealth upgrade ? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-02-28 13:38 +1300
                Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-28 02:36 +0000
                Re: Stealth upgrade ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-27 22:23 -0500
                Re: Stealth upgrade ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-28 15:04 +0000
                Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-28 15:23 +0000
                Re: Stealth upgrade ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-28 16:52 +0000
                Re: Stealth upgrade ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-01 14:48 -0500
                Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-01 19:59 +0000
              Re: Stealth upgrade ? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-28 08:13 -0500
            Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-28 02:34 +0000
          Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-28 02:28 +0000
  Re: Stealth upgrade ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-27 11:38 -0500
    Re: Stealth upgrade ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-27 16:46 +0000

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