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Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos
Date 2014-07-05 02:49 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <c1p7eiF1g06U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2014-07-05, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:
> Microsoft saved Apple's butt to avoid some complicated anti-trust 
> regulations.

That myth was wrong decades ago, and it's still just as wrong today:

<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/stop-the-lies-the-day-that-microsoft-saved-apple/7036>

>  Jobs returning was good enough news that some Mac software 
> development eventually returned.

No, what turned developers around was the clear roadmap that came after
the NeXT acquisition. Before that, Apple's roadmap was flopping around
like a fish out of water for years, which is what drove developers away
to begin with. Jobs just happened to be instrumental in that NeXT
acquisition.

> So now back in the year 2014:
>
> - Apple delivers the "Trash Can" Mac Pro, which is like a very fast 
> sport bike for professionals who asked for a truck.

That's your opinion, and is not reflective of *all* professionals. Some
of us professionals actually like the new Mac Pro - yes, even
developers.

> - More iCloud integration, but iCloud storage is 10 years out of date 
> and not compatible with non-Apple devices.

It's not mandatory by any means. Hardly a problem.

> - Controlling software sales and locking out the free market.

Now you're starting to sound like a Free Software zealot. The rest of us
don't mind Apple's control over this terrific platform. And clearly the
market shows customers don't mind so much either.

> - Both Google and Microsoft are competition.

There has always been competition.

> - "Sandboxing" complicates, cripples, and makes some use patterns 
> confusing.

Yet somehow developers still love it. That could have something to do
with the fact that it enhances security significantly, and protects
customer privacy, among other things.

> - Not adding support for modern open standards.  Not even Bluetooth File 
> Transfer on iPhones.

iOS users don't access the file system directly, so that's not needed,
and there are easier and better ways to transfer things in iOS anyway.

> - Not documenting graphics systems again.

Which would those be?

> - Last few OS releases are just screwing with the GUI while the core 
> becomes unusably obsolete.

That's a flat-out lie. Any developer who has paid attention knows Apple
has been making *significant* changes under the hood in iOS on a regular
basis.

> - Apple announces yet another development environment that doesn't work 
> with anything else.

You're upset because Apple doesn't target your preferred platforms?
Your Free Software slip is showing again.

> I'm still a software developer in Silicon Valley.  Everyone that I know 
> is preparing to to jump to another platform if/when the Apple market 
> collapses.

I think that says something about your social circle of professional
friends. ; )

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 20:06 -0700
  Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-01 20:54 -0700
    Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 04:19 +0000
      Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-07-02 08:59 +0200
        Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 13:23 +0000
  Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-07-02 08:56 +0200
    Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-02 09:54 +0100
      Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-02 10:25 -0700
        Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-02 19:10 +0100
          Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-02 11:30 -0700
        Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-04 08:25 +0200
          Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-04 15:52 -0400
            Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-04 14:49 -0700
              Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 18:05 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-07-05 09:35 +0200
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-05 12:27 -0400
              Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-04 18:51 -0700
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 19:01 -0700
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-04 19:54 -0700
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 23:07 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-05 03:09 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 23:15 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 03:20 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-05 02:04 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 22:14 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-04 22:34 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 02:59 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-05 02:57 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-05 07:53 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-05 20:19 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 07:18 -0700
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 23:07 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-05 03:13 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 02:49 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-04 20:02 -0700
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-05 03:04 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-05 02:08 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-05 18:37 +1200
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-05 03:41 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-05 15:07 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-05 14:15 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-06 14:59 +1200
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-06 02:42 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-05 23:51 -0700
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-06 23:59 +1200
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-05 07:16 -0700
  Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-02 09:01 +0000
    Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-02 15:55 +0000
      Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-02 09:05 -0700
      Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-02 18:06 +0000
        Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-02 15:11 -0400
          Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-02 19:56 +0000
            Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-02 17:37 -0700
              Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-03 05:31 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 16:06 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-05 09:11 +0000
      Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-02 22:39 +0000
    Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-02 09:04 -0700
      Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-02 12:44 -0400
        Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-02 09:53 -0700
          Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-02 15:16 -0400
            Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-02 12:32 -0700
              Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-02 17:24 -0700
              Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-02 22:49 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-02 21:01 -0700
      Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-02 18:11 +0000
        Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-02 15:11 -0400
          Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-02 19:57 +0000
            Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-02 22:39 +0000
              Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-03 05:30 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-03 10:20 -0700
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-04 09:23 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 16:06 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-05 09:12 +0000
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-06 21:56 -0400
                Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-07 22:53 +0000
    Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-02 15:10 -0400
      Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-02 19:54 +0000
    Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-02 22:36 +0000
      Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-07-03 05:22 +0000
  Re: Apple promises 'professional-grade' features in OS X Photos Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-02 22:34 +0000

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