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Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility

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From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
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Subject Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility
Date 2 Mar 2014 16:24:45 GMT
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On 2014-03-02, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 19:23:26 -0500, JF Mezei 
><jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>
>> I am neutral on Cook. he seems to be a good manager for the company. 
>> But he doesn't have the vision and leadership of Jobs.
>
> Jobs didn't always have the vision of Jobs.  Jobs was very good at 
> harnessing the vision of others, even of unifying disparate visions of 
> others.
>
> And I am not sure that "leadership" is quite the right description for 
> him for how he ran Apple.  He had strong sociopathic tendencies in his 
> relationships with others.  In his first tenure with Apple he made a 
> number of bad decisions and blunders as CEO; in his second tenure he 
> appeared to have earned a lot and the company was much more successful 
> under him.  While he was effective, I am not sure that "leader" is quite 
> the right word.  "Bully" was sometimes the right word.  "Manipulator" 
> was sometimes the right word.  "Brilliant" was sometimes the right word.  
> "Visionary" was sometimes the right word.  "Selfish bastard" was also 
> sometimes the right word(s).  Jobs was complex and his style of running 
> the company reflected that.  

Spot on. I miss him dearly.

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Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-01 09:15 -0700
  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-01 11:56 -0500
  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-01 17:10 +0000
    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-01 10:27 -0700
      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-01 19:23 -0500
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 01:47 +0000
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-01 21:41 -0500
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 03:07 +0000
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 01:50 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 08:08 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 16:21 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 10:23 -0600
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 10:36 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 12:48 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 18:09 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:14 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 18:09 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social responsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:17 -0700
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-02 17:06 +1300
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 16:25 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 10:32 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 12:47 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:10 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 13:12 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 13:18 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:54 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 13:57 -0600
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 20:21 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 17:25 -0800
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 21:47 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 17:56 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-03 01:17 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 21:30 -0500
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 18:07 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 21:48 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-02 18:19 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 20:25 -0500
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-03-07 20:38 -0500
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-01 21:37 -0700
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 10:13 -0600
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 16:23 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 12:02 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 10:30 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 12:46 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:09 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 14:03 -0600
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 21:45 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 20:15 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-03 01:18 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 19:57 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-03 07:51 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-03 15:05 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 21:44 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 17:55 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 13:56 -0600
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 15:49 -0500
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 17:44 -0700
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 10:29 -0700
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 05:19 +0000
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-01 21:37 -0700
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-03-01 23:55 -0600
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 16:24 +0000
  Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-01 21:37 -0800
    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-02 10:28 -0500
      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 11:04 -0500
      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 16:25 +0000
      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 18:02 +0000
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 11:10 -0700
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 11:26 -0800
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 22:19 +0000
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 17:57 -0700
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 17:04 -0800
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-03-07 20:25 -0500
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-07 18:52 -0700
              Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-08 06:50 +0000
                Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-08 09:23 -0600
      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 11:20 -0800
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 20:19 -0500
    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 10:14 -0600
    Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-03 09:00 +1300
      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-02 14:25 -0600
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-03 13:40 +1300
      Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 13:04 -0800
        Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-03 13:44 +1300
          Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-02 17:02 -0800
            Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-03 16:21 +1300

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