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| Date | 2012-04-09 13:15 -0500 |
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| Subject | Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! |
| From | George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Message-ID | <CBA8918B.850F2%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> (permalink) |
| References | <fmoore-5F3FED.13385208042012@news.eternal-september.org> <-7mdnYRDH8HKUhzSnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com> <timmcn-B54394.17042908042012@news.iphouse.com> <OuKdnY2iko7-sx_SnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
On 4/8/12 7:33 PM, in article OuKdnY2iko7-sx_SnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote: > In article <timmcn-B54394.17042908042012@news.iphouse.com>, > Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote: > >> In article <-7mdnYRDH8HKUhzSnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> >>> On 2012-04-08 13:38 , Fred Moore wrote: >>>> Top 50 Exec Pay (Cook's #1) >>>> >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/08/business/executive-compens >>>> ation-2012.html> >>> >>> Read that this am. No wonder the US Gini index is so tilted. >> >> Michael Moore was just about accurate. > > The thing that MM and all the others (especially the NYT ignore is that > current exec compensation is almost entirely due to a change in tax > policy in the mid-80s that was supposed to address problems in executive > pay. > It changed tax laws to effectively cap executive salaries at $1 > million by making that the highest amount the Corp could deduct (and if > you look at K-1, most actual salaries still tend to be around $1 million > to this day). > Then, in an attempt to align the interests of management with the > interests of shareholder, they tax-favored stock options and > peformance-based bonuses. So, instead of being paid largely a salary (to > run the company) they were paid largely in options and bonuses (to run > the stock price). It wasn't two years later before the first > book-cooking scandal erupted. > Two other major outcomes. (1). Executive's total compensation went > to areas that even the most captive Board wouldn't have had the balls to > pay them. The second thing was the most interesting as the vaunted > executive pay to average worker pay ratio went through the roof. During > the 60s, 70s and early 80s, it had meandered around in range of 20-30 > times. In the mid-80s (within a couple of years of enactment) it had > risen to more than 150 times and topped out in the late 90s around 300 > times, still better than 250 the last time I looked. > Tax policy that was supposed to reign in executive pay did exactly > the opposite, yet the COngress skates responsibility. Moore is an overfed, presumptuous hypocrite fool.
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Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-08 13:38 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-08 13:48 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-04-08 17:04 -0500
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-08 18:26 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-09 12:52 +1200
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-09 13:13 -0500
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-09 19:39 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-10 10:57 -0500
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-10 09:24 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-08 20:33 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-08 21:11 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-08 18:18 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-09 06:58 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-09 08:26 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-09 13:35 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-09 13:23 -0500
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-09 13:24 -0500
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2012-04-14 03:48 +0000
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-09 13:21 -0500
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-09 19:33 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-09 13:15 -0500
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-04-09 21:22 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-04-10 18:08 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-10 18:35 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-10 19:09 -0500
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-10 17:32 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-10 19:55 -0500
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-10 20:03 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-10 21:25 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-10 22:42 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-11 08:10 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-11 12:03 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-11 18:27 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-12 12:08 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2012-04-13 17:54 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-14 11:49 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-12 20:14 +0200
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-11 12:55 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-04-11 15:21 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-11 10:59 +0200
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-11 13:04 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2012-04-11 10:23 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-04-10 23:21 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-04-20 16:09 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2012-04-11 12:43 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2012-04-08 21:21 +0000
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-09 11:59 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2012-04-09 09:11 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-10 11:34 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2012-04-10 11:15 -0700
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-04-10 17:16 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-11 11:08 -0400
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-11 11:13 +0200
Re: Bet You're Getting Paid Less Than Tim Cook! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-09 13:33 -0400
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