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Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil

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On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:35:01 -0700, Richard Maine wrote:

> Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> 
>> For brevity, I didn't quote the Dropbox TOS from the CNET article in my
>> original post. Here it is:
>> 
>> "Your Stuff & Your Privacy: By using our Services you provide us with
>> information, files, and folders that you submit to Dropbox (together,
>> "your stuff"). You retain full ownership to your stuff. We don't claim
>> any ownership to any of it. These Terms do not grant us any rights to
>> your stuff or intellectual property except for the limited rights that
>> are needed to run the Services, as explained below."
>> 
>> 'Damn it, Jim, I'm an engineer, not a lawyer!', but I like the tone of
>> that. Unless they completely contradict it somewhere else in their TOS,
>> why isn't that good, binding insurance?
> 
> In particular, I note that the dropbox terms specifically limit their
> use to things "needed to run the Services." That's the kind of stuff I
> *want* them to be able to do - else I wouldn't be using the services.
> 
> On the other hand, the Google Drive terms include allowing Google to use
> your stuff to promote their services. That's a whole different ball game
> and could cover darn near anything.
> 

Google alternatives in the news:

<http://bit.ly/JNEEgy>

"Private: some search engines make money by not tracking users
DuckDuckGo and Ixquick take a tiny bite out of Google."

-- 
Paul Sture

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Google Drive--Even More Evil Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-25 12:18 -0400
  Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-25 13:09 -0400
  Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-25 13:44 -0400
    Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-04-25 13:59 -0700
    Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-25 23:03 +0200
  Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-26 11:29 +0200
    Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-04-26 07:41 -0700
      Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-04-26 19:21 -0400
        Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-04-27 13:27 -0600
    Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-26 12:15 -0400
      Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2012-04-26 09:35 -0700
        Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-26 14:45 -0400
          Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 17:43 -0400
        Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-05-17 16:40 +0200
  Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2012-04-26 08:25 -0500
    Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 10:03 -0400
      Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-04-26 19:25 -0400
        Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-26 22:31 -0400
    Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-26 11:56 -0400
      Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 12:14 -0400
    Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-27 14:40 +0200
      Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-04-27 10:46 -0400
        Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-27 11:25 -0400
        Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-27 17:51 +0200
          Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-04-27 15:59 -0700
            Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2012-04-27 18:58 -0700
              Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-28 10:03 -0400
                Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-28 12:06 -0400
                Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-04-28 13:33 -0400
                Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-30 10:47 -0400
              Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-28 12:32 -0400
                Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-28 22:46 +0200
                Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-30 10:35 -0400
                Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-05-01 09:37 +0200
            Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-28 12:53 +0200
      Re: Google Drive--Even More Evil "Wayne C. Morris" <wayne.morris@this.is.invalid> - 2012-04-27 10:14 -0500

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