Re: Linus rant on HFS+

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Subject	Re: Linus rant on HFS+
Date	2015-03-26 19:53 +1200
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In article <mf05v3$oep$2@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 04:00:00 +0000 (UTC)
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > 
> > True, though I think it is 1000 charges OR 5 years. That is, even
> > with a low charge cycle count, the battery will lose as much as 20%
> > efficacy after 5 years.
> 
> lots of hand waving and blah blah blah
> 
> 1000 charges
> what about discharges
> and what's the definition of a charge
> or a discharge

These days it's usually defined as complete charge-discharges cycles. 

If you let your battery run down to half charged, then plug it into the
wall to recharge it, you can do that twice before it counts as "1
charge cycle".

If you let your battery run down by 10% and then recharge it, then you
can do that 10 times to count as "1 charge cycle".

BUT leaving your portable device plugged into the wall constantly is
not a good idea either (even ignoring the fact that it was pointless
buying a portable device in the first place).

> and why would aapple ever replace a battery free of charge (pun)
> are some defective and overly free of charge to a fault
> are aapple so kind/generous that they just feel need to give back
> does the batt supplier suck up the loss
> 
> it's all rather odd 
> i smell a cover up
> 
> perhaps the charge/discharge technology in the laptops was defective
> but since it was firmware/software fixable they said "well we'll replace
> some of them if it's normal wear/tear" (whatever that means)
> 
> deflect blame
> move along

Batteries are an old and crap technology - they were hopeless long
before laptops were created and still are (one reason why electric cars
simply are not a solution to anything). 

The fact that all batteries do become useless is used by people jumping
onto the portable device fad  ... it gives them a "good" excuse for
throwing away otherwise perfectly good equipment and buying a new one.

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Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-20 11:53 -0800
  Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-20 22:37 +0000
    Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-21 09:41 -0800
      Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-21 23:18 +0000
        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-22 09:23 +0000
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2015-02-22 11:23 +0100
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-22 16:34 +0000
  Re: Linus rant on HFS+ android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-22 05:39 +0100
    Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-22 10:05 +0000
      Re: Linus rant on HFS+ android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-22 15:05 +0100
        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-22 18:38 +0000
      Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-02-22 11:11 -0500
        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-22 13:30 -0500
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-02-22 13:32 -0500
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-25 19:01 -0500
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-22 18:40 +0000
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-22 20:55 +0000
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Matt Simpson <usenet@news.jmatt.net> - 2015-02-25 14:59 +0000
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-25 12:33 -0500
        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-03-25 08:01 -0400
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:11 -0700
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 17:16 -0400
              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2015-03-25 17:31 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 17:40 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-25 18:31 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-25 22:39 +0000
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-25 19:23 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-26 04:00 +0000
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 22:37 -0700
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-26 19:53 +1200
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2015-03-26 09:37 +0100
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-26 23:07 +1300
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-27 20:39 -0700
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-27 23:42 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2015-03-30 10:10 +0200
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 09:27 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 03:08 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-27 00:14 +0000
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-27 20:29 -0700
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 06:18 +0000
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:05 +0000
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 18:41 -0400
              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:32 -0700
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 17:40 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:45 -0700
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-25 17:34 -0400
              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 14:41 -0700
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-25 21:56 +0000
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-25 18:33 -0400
                Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-25 19:44 -0700
      Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-22 16:22 +0000
      Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-25 18:54 -0500
        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-26 07:56 +0000
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 07:57 -0500
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-26 07:58 -0500
            Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-26 17:24 +0000
              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:25 -0500
              Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 10:07 -0500
        Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-02-26 07:28 -0800
          Re: Linus rant on HFS+ Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 10:08 -0500

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