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Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning
Date	2013-11-07 18:24 +1300
Organization	Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID	<071120131824104345%YourName@YourISP.com> (permalink)
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In article <l5f30a$85i$1@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 11-06-2013, 22:40, nospam wrote:
> > <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >
> >>> The front most application should not be covered by background
> >>> application windows opening up.  X-(
> >>
> >> This has been a pet peeve of mine--on every operating system I've
> >> used--developers who code as if their program is the ONLY one running on
> >> a multi-tasking operating system.
> >
> > it does not occur on very many operating systems and in the case of os
> > x, it's an os x bug, not the app.
> 
> One could argue it that it's on OS X bug to allow the other app to steal 
> focus.  And one could argue it's a bug in the other app to do so.
> 
> I argue that it's negligence on Apple's part and stupidity on the app's 
> part.
> 
> And I have seen it on Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows 7, 
> Solaris, and OS X.

Technically it's a feature of OS X - it's due to the OS being
window-focused with the ability to have windows from different
already-running applications visible at the same time (for example, to
drag dcument from a Finder window into a Mail message as an
attachment).

The windows of a newly-opened application open in the foreground since
the OS believes that you want to use that application now ... which of
course often you do, but sometimes you don't. The OS can't really know
if you're actually wanting to still use the window of the previous
application, except of course if you're actively typing / clicking in
it. If you're just reading an email, then the OS isn't going to know
that (yet).

Under Mac OS 9 of course it was (usually) application-focused, so
clicking on a window brought the entire application for the foreground,
and the newly-opened application simply carried on open behind it.

As always, there are pluses and minuses to both approaches ... it's
just highly irritating when it does what you don't want it to.

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Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-06 17:29 -0500
  Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-07 13:14 +1300
    Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-06 19:44 -0500
      Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-07 01:36 +0000
        Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-06 22:40 -0500
      Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-07 15:54 +1300
        Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-06 22:40 -0500
      Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-06 22:40 -0500
        Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-06 22:55 -0500
          Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-07 18:24 +1300
    Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-06 20:36 -0500
      Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-07 15:56 +1300
        Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-06 22:40 -0500
        Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-07 16:57 -0500
    Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-06 22:40 -0500
  Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2013-11-11 11:04 +0100
    Re: Mavericks irritants - menu bar; programs oepning dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-11 23:23 +1300

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