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| Started by | ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) |
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| First post | 2019-04-02 13:05 -0500 |
| Last post | 2019-04-06 08:00 -0400 |
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Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-04-02 13:05 -0500
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-04-02 11:12 -0700
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-04-02 13:23 -0500
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2019-04-02 19:29 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-04-02 16:31 -0700
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2019-04-04 21:10 +0200
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-04-04 18:22 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-04-04 18:36 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-04-08 09:57 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-04-05 04:04 +0000
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-04-08 10:10 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2019-04-07 14:47 +0200
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-04-04 22:32 -0500
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 08:29 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-04-05 15:52 +0000
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 12:40 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 17:49 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 12:54 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 17:59 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 13:10 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-04-05 15:08 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 20:29 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 15:35 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 21:59 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 17:04 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 22:31 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-04-05 14:33 -0700
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 22:36 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-04-05 14:55 -0700
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 17:37 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-04-05 14:56 -0700
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 18:01 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> - 2019-04-05 18:07 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-04-05 15:15 -0700
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-04-05 14:08 -0700
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 22:32 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 17:37 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> - 2019-04-05 17:35 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2019-04-05 20:04 +0000
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 16:26 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 22:50 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 18:01 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 15:35 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 20:40 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2019-04-05 20:05 +0000
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-04-05 20:06 +0000
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> - 2019-04-05 16:17 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> - 2019-04-05 16:14 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 22:19 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 17:37 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-05 22:44 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-05 17:50 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 16:55 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-04-06 10:40 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-06 11:29 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-04-06 15:13 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-04-06 19:57 +0000
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-04-06 17:08 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-07 21:05 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-06 15:58 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-04-06 20:04 +0000
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-04-06 17:10 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-04-06 17:13 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-07 21:05 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 11:58 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-08 10:07 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 16:11 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-08 11:19 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-08 20:23 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-04-06 17:29 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-07 21:05 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-04-05 21:55 -0500
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-04-06 09:52 +0100
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-06 08:00 -0400
Re: Unable to boot up a 15" 2008 MacBook Pro. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-04-06 08:00 -0400
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| From | Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 15:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <qYydnZ4WX4YxOjrBnZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #1248 |
On 2019-04-05 08:29, nospam wrote:
> In article <T_Gdnd9wha3SUTvBnZ2dnUU7-QWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
>>
>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. It's very
>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up normally.
>
> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower and
> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power glitch.
Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector?
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| From | David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 20:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <00OpE.1228$g16.883@fx26.fr7> |
| In reply to | #1255 |
On 05/04/2019 20:08, Alan Browne wrote: > On 2019-04-05 08:29, nospam wrote: >> In article <T_Gdnd9wha3SUTvBnZ2dnUU7-QWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant >> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: >> >>> >>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. It's very >>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up normally. >> >> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower and >> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power glitch. > > Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? Exactly why *I* asked nospam. D.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 15:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050420191535549245%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1256 |
In article <00OpE.1228$g16.883@fx26.fr7>, David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: > >>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. It's very > >>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up normally. > >> > >> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower and > >> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power glitch. > > > > Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? > > Exactly why *I* asked nospam. you didn't ask that. what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for this newsgroup.
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| From | David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 21:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <7lPpE.15388$Kb7.7055@fx09.fr7> |
| In reply to | #1258 |
On 05/04/2019 20:35, nospam wrote: > In article <00OpE.1228$g16.883@fx26.fr7>, David in Devon > <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. It's very >>>>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up normally. >>>> >>>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower and >>>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power glitch. >>> >>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >> >> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. > > you didn't ask that. > > what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for > this newsgroup. I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. THREE newsgroups are involved.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 17:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050420191704298197%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1266 |
In article <7lPpE.15388$Kb7.7055@fx09.fr7>, David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. It's very > >>>>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up normally. > >>>> > >>>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower and > >>>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power glitch. > >>> > >>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? > >> > >> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. > > > > you didn't ask that. > > > > what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for > > this newsgroup. > > I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. i didn't fail to answer nor did you ask what you claim to have asked. not only are you again wrong yet again, but you continue to demonstrate just how incredibly stupid you are. > THREE newsgroups are involved. so what?
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| From | David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 22:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <VOPpE.64949$C44.37070@fx16.fr7> |
| In reply to | #1267 |
On 05/04/2019 22:04, nospam wrote: > In article <7lPpE.15388$Kb7.7055@fx09.fr7>, David in Devon > <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >>>>>>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. It's very >>>>>>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up normally. >>>>>> >>>>>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower and >>>>>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power glitch. >>>>> >>>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >>>> >>>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. >>> >>> you didn't ask that. >>> >>> what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for >>> this newsgroup. >> >> I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. > > i didn't fail to answer nor did you ask what you claim to have asked. > > not only are you again wrong yet again, but you continue to demonstrate > just how incredibly stupid you are. It's probably an age thing. :-) >> THREE newsgroups are involved. > > so what? You said "which is irrelevant for *THIS* newsgroup." You should pay more attention to detail, dopey. :-P
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 14:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <q88hjb$mfq$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1270 |
On 2019-04-05 2:31 p.m., David in Devon wrote: > On 05/04/2019 22:04, nospam wrote: >> In article <7lPpE.15388$Kb7.7055@fx09.fr7>, David in Devon >> <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >>>>>>>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. >>>>>>>> It's very >>>>>>>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up >>>>>>>> normally. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly >>>>>>> slower and >>>>>>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power >>>>>>> glitch. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >>>>> >>>>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. >>>> >>>> you didn't ask that. >>>> >>>> what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for >>>> this newsgroup. >>> >>> I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. >> >> i didn't fail to answer nor did you ask what you claim to have asked. >> >> not only are you again wrong yet again, but you continue to demonstrate >> just how incredibly stupid you are. > > It's probably an age thing. :-) > >>> THREE newsgroups are involved. >> >> so what? > > You said "which is irrelevant for > *THIS* newsgroup." > > You should pay more attention to detail, dopey. :-P > It's irrelevant to all the other groups included as well, twit.
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| From | David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 22:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <kTPpE.64951$C44.14944@fx16.fr7> |
| In reply to | #1272 |
On 05/04/2019 22:33, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2019-04-05 2:31 p.m., David in Devon wrote: >> On 05/04/2019 22:04, nospam wrote: >>> In article <7lPpE.15388$Kb7.7055@fx09.fr7>, David in Devon >>> <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. >>>>>>>>> It's very >>>>>>>>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up >>>>>>>>> normally. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly >>>>>>>> slower and >>>>>>>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power >>>>>>>> glitch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >>>>>> >>>>>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. >>>>> >>>>> you didn't ask that. >>>>> >>>>> what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for >>>>> this newsgroup. >>>> >>>> I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. >>> >>> i didn't fail to answer nor did you ask what you claim to have asked. >>> >>> not only are you again wrong yet again, but you continue to demonstrate >>> just how incredibly stupid you are. >> >> It's probably an age thing. :-) >> >>>> THREE newsgroups are involved. >>> >>> so what? >> >> You said "which is irrelevant for >> *THIS* newsgroup." >> >> You should pay more attention to detail, dopey. :-P >> > > It's irrelevant to all the other groups included as well, twit. Are you deliberately obtuse, Alan? D.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 14:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <q88ip8$rkk$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1274 |
On 2019-04-05 2:36 p.m., David in Devon wrote: > On 05/04/2019 22:33, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2019-04-05 2:31 p.m., David in Devon wrote: >>> On 05/04/2019 22:04, nospam wrote: >>>> In article <7lPpE.15388$Kb7.7055@fx09.fr7>, David in Devon >>>> <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. >>>>>>>>>> It's very >>>>>>>>>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up >>>>>>>>>> normally. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly >>>>>>>>> slower and >>>>>>>>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power >>>>>>>>> glitch. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. >>>>>> >>>>>> you didn't ask that. >>>>>> >>>>>> what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for >>>>>> this newsgroup. >>>>> >>>>> I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. >>>> >>>> i didn't fail to answer nor did you ask what you claim to have asked. >>>> >>>> not only are you again wrong yet again, but you continue to demonstrate >>>> just how incredibly stupid you are. >>> >>> It's probably an age thing. :-) >>> >>>>> THREE newsgroups are involved. >>>> >>>> so what? >>> >>> You said "which is irrelevant for >>> *THIS* newsgroup." >>> >>> You should pay more attention to detail, dopey. :-P >>> >> >> It's irrelevant to all the other groups included as well, twit. > > Are you deliberately obtuse, Alan? Nope. You tried to rebut his comment about the irrelevance of non-Apple hardware to this particular Mac group with the fact that "THREE newsgroups ARE involved"... ...but they are ALL Mac newsgroups, you twit.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 17:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050420191737528403%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1270 |
In article <VOPpE.64949$C44.37070@fx16.fr7>, David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? > >>>> > >>>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. > >>> > >>> you didn't ask that. > >>> > >>> what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for > >>> this newsgroup. > >> > >> I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. > > > > i didn't fail to answer nor did you ask what you claim to have asked. > > > > not only are you again wrong yet again, but you continue to demonstrate > > just how incredibly stupid you are. > > It's probably an age thing. :-) no, it's definitely not. it's a mental deficiency thing.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 14:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <q88ir8$rkk$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1277 |
On 2019-04-05 2:37 p.m., nospam wrote: > In article <VOPpE.64949$C44.37070@fx16.fr7>, David in Devon > <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >>>>>> >>>>>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. >>>>> >>>>> you didn't ask that. >>>>> >>>>> what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for >>>>> this newsgroup. >>>> >>>> I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. >>> >>> i didn't fail to answer nor did you ask what you claim to have asked. >>> >>> not only are you again wrong yet again, but you continue to demonstrate >>> just how incredibly stupid you are. >> >> It's probably an age thing. :-) > > no, it's definitely not. > > it's a mental deficiency thing. > It's a character deficiency thing.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 18:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050420191801293444%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1282 |
In article <q88ir8$rkk$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> wrote: > >>> not only are you again wrong yet again, but you continue to demonstrate > >>> just how incredibly stupid you are. > >> > >> It's probably an age thing. :-) > > > > no, it's definitely not. > > > > it's a mental deficiency thing. > > > > It's a character deficiency thing. both.
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| From | Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 18:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <q88jin$sd7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1282 |
On 2019-04-05 17:56, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2019-04-05 2:37 p.m., nospam wrote: >> In article <VOPpE.64949$C44.37070@fx16.fr7>, David in Devon >> <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. >>>>>> >>>>>> you didn't ask that. >>>>>> >>>>>> what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for >>>>>> this newsgroup. >>>>> >>>>> I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. >>>> >>>> i didn't fail to answer nor did you ask what you claim to have asked. >>>> >>>> not only are you again wrong yet again, but you continue to demonstrate >>>> just how incredibly stupid you are. >>> >>> It's probably an age thing. :-) >> >> no, it's definitely not. >> >> it's a mental deficiency thing. >> > > It's a character deficiency thing. He has no character.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 15:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <q88k16$114v$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1285 |
On 2019-04-05 3:07 p.m., Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote: > On 2019-04-05 17:56, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2019-04-05 2:37 p.m., nospam wrote: >>> In article <VOPpE.64949$C44.37070@fx16.fr7>, David in Devon >>> <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you didn't ask that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for >>>>>>> this newsgroup. >>>>>> >>>>>> I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the >>>>>> answer. >>>>> >>>>> i didn't fail to answer nor did you ask what you claim to have asked. >>>>> >>>>> not only are you again wrong yet again, but you continue to >>>>> demonstrate >>>>> just how incredibly stupid you are. >>>> >>>> It's probably an age thing. :-) >>> >>> no, it's definitely not. >>> >>> it's a mental deficiency thing. >>> >> >> It's a character deficiency thing. > > He has no character. That would be the deficiency, yes. :-)
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 14:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <q88g58$g7r$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1266 |
On 2019-04-05 1:59 p.m., David in Devon wrote: > On 05/04/2019 20:35, nospam wrote: >> In article <00OpE.1228$g16.883@fx26.fr7>, David in Devon >> <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. It's >>>>>> very >>>>>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up >>>>>> normally. >>>>> >>>>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower and >>>>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power glitch. >>>> >>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >>> >>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. >> >> you didn't ask that. You didn't ask whether it would run slower without a battery or why it would do so. >> >> what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for >> this newsgroup. > > > I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. > > THREE newsgroups are involved.
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| From | David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 22:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <aQPpE.64950$C44.57758@fx16.fr7> |
| In reply to | #1268 |
On 05/04/2019 22:08, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2019-04-05 1:59 p.m., David in Devon wrote: >> On 05/04/2019 20:35, nospam wrote: >>> In article <00OpE.1228$g16.883@fx26.fr7>, David in Devon >>> <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. It's >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up >>>>>>> normally. >>>>>> >>>>>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower >>>>>> and >>>>>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power >>>>>> glitch. >>>>> >>>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >>>> >>>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. >>> >>> you didn't ask that. > > You didn't ask whether it would run slower without a battery or why it > would do so. You are correct. I shall endeavour to be more precise. >>> what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for >>> this newsgroup. >> >> >> I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. >> >> THREE newsgroups are involved.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 17:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050420191737518358%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1271 |
In article <aQPpE.64950$C44.57758@fx16.fr7>, David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? > >>>> > >>>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. > >>> > >>> you didn't ask that. > > > > You didn't ask whether it would run slower without a battery or why it > > would do so. > > You are correct. I shall endeavour to be more precise. some things are simply not possible.
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| From | Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 17:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <q88hmu$h53$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1266 |
On 2019-04-05 16:59, David in Devon wrote: > On 05/04/2019 20:35, nospam wrote: >> In article <00OpE.1228$g16.883@fx26.fr7>, David in Devon >> <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. It's >>>>>> very >>>>>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up >>>>>> normally. >>>>> >>>>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower and >>>>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power glitch. >>>> >>>> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >>> >>> Exactly why *I* asked nospam. >> >> you didn't ask that. >> >> what you asked about was non-apple hardware, which is irrelevant for >> this newsgroup. > > > I suspect that you failed to answer because you don't KNOW the answer. You asked no such question. The exact exchange was: On 05/04/2019 17:40, nospam wrote: > In article <ggpbtoFeehvU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger > <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>>> My client didn't want a new battery since he rarely uses it. It's very >>>> old and slow. We kept its battery slot empty so it can boot up normally. >>> >>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower and >>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power glitch. >> >> ...which can result in volume corruption and data loss. > > true, but i've not seen that happen. > > the big issue is that it's much slower, roughly half-speed. Is that the same on non-Apple hardware? -- D. > > THREE newsgroups are involved. irrelevant.
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| From | danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 20:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q88ccb$rv$1@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1256 |
[snippeth] >>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower and >>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power glitch. >> >> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? >Exactly why *I* asked nospam. this is, indeed, a real issue. Sometimes... The power draw as the drive starts spinning up might easily be more than the transformer can provide. For argument's sake, let's just say the wall wart can provide 50 watts. The basic draw of the unit might be 35. Call it 45 when charging the battery. However, when the drives start up (and other items with initial surges, too), they might be trying to get 100 watts. Yeah, only for a couple of seconds, or maybe just a fraction of one, but that's more than the power cord will have at hand. The battery provides those extra electrons... -- _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-04-05 16:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050420191626230970%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1260 |
In article <q88ccb$rv$1@reader2.panix.com>, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote: > >>> don't do that. without a battery, it will run significantly slower and > >>> there is also the risk of a sudden shutdown if there's a power glitch. > >> > >> Why would it run slower if it's on its main power connector? > > >Exactly why *I* asked nospam. > > this is, indeed, a real issue. Sometimes... > > The power draw as the drive starts spinning up might easily > be more than the transformer can provide. > > For argument's sake, let's just say the wall wart can > provide 50 watts. The basic draw of the unit might > be 35. Call it 45 when charging the battery. > > However, when the drives start up (and other items > with initial surges, too), they might be trying to > get 100 watts. Yeah, only for a couple of seconds, > or maybe just a fraction of one, but that's more > than the power cord will have at hand. > > The battery provides those extra electrons... yep. the original mac portable (and probably the powerbook 100 which was a shrunken down version) would not run *at* *all* without a battery.
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