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  April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-31 19:30 +1200
    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 08:33 +0100
      Re: April Moron's Day approaches Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-31 04:11 -0400
      Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 13:24 +0000
    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-31 08:49 -0400
      Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 13:25 +0000
    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Joe <joe@nospam.com> - 2015-03-31 11:23 -0500
      Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-01 08:53 +1200
        Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 20:21 +0000
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 16:54 -0400
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 21:49 +0000
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-01 13:19 +1200
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-31 17:29 -0700
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-01 01:21 +0000
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-01 16:14 +1200
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-04-02 15:21 -0700
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-03 13:08 +1200
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-03 00:39 +0000
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-01 03:39 +0000
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-04-01 09:59 -0700
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 10:05 -0700
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-01 23:43 +0000
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-01 08:08 -0700
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 15:52 +0000
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2015-04-01 09:25 -0700
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 17:38 +0000
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-01 09:50 -0700
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 10:04 -0700
                    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 17:57 +0000
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 17:57 +0000
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-04-01 10:01 -0700
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 18:02 +0000
        Re: April Moron's Day approaches Joe <joe@nospam.com> - 2015-04-01 07:50 -0500
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 09:32 -0700
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-01 18:18 -0400
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 15:23 -0700
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-02 08:53 -0400
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-02 07:46 -0700
                    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-02 13:59 -0400
                      Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-02 11:22 -0700
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-01 22:23 +0000
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-02 00:40 +0000
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-02 09:12 -0400
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-02 13:48 +1200
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Joe <joe@nospam.com> - 2015-04-02 09:28 -0500
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-02 10:51 -0400
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Joe <joe@nospam.com> - 2015-04-02 11:42 -0500
                    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-03 08:26 +1200
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-03 09:16 +1200
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-01 18:00 +0000
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2015-04-01 18:14 +0100
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-02 08:53 +1200
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-01 15:04 -0700
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-02 13:44 +1200
    Re: April Moron's Day approaches gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-01 10:30 -0700

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#4694

In message <mfhqrb$4fj$1@news.albasani.net> 
  Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> On 4/1/15 12:32 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
>> <joe@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
>>>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
>>>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage
>>> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all.
>>> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of
>>> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.
>>
>> But the free tea and hot chocolate did benefit me.
>>

> Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.

> It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the 
> boss and his family if the company is privately held--

No, that is not how businesses work.


-- 
Yeah, Nick. Nick's the kinda guy you can trust. Nick's your buddy Nick's
the kinda guy you drink beers with. The kinda guy that doesn't care if
you puke in his car. Nick.

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#4696

On 2015-04-01, Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> On 4/1/15 12:32 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
>> <joe@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
>>>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
>>>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage
>>> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all.
>>> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of
>>> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.
>>
>> But the free tea and hot chocolate did benefit me.
>
> Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.
>
> It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the 
> boss and his family if the company is privately held-- or the stock 
> holders if it's publicly traded. And if it is publicly traded, some of 
> the stock is no doubt owned my mutual funds of which I have several. So 
> I probably paid for it.

Spoken like a true 1%-er. You have hope yet! 

Yes, you pay for ~.0005 cents (your share of the total divided by...
How many outstanding shares are there right now? : D

> Do I even get a "thanks" or an offer to come by and wash my car or mow 
> my lawn? Hell no, that's gratitude for ya'.

Well gee, yes, thanks, for your "contribution", I guess. I mean how much
were you inconvenienced for your own investment? : )

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#4700

On 4/1/15 8:40 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-04-01, Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
>> On 4/1/15 12:32 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>> In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
>>> <joe@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>>>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
>>>>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
>>>>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage
>>>> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all.
>>>> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of
>>>> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.
>>>
>>> But the free tea and hot chocolate did benefit me.
>>
>> Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.
>>
>> It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the
>> boss and his family if the company is privately held-- or the stock
>> holders if it's publicly traded. And if it is publicly traded, some of
>> the stock is no doubt owned my mutual funds of which I have several. So
>> I probably paid for it.
>
> Spoken like a true 1%-er. You have hope yet!
>
> Yes, you pay for ~.0005 cents (your share of the total divided by...
> How many outstanding shares are there right now? : D
>
>> Do I even get a "thanks" or an offer to come by and wash my car or mow
>> my lawn? Hell no, that's gratitude for ya'.
>
> Well gee, yes, thanks, for your "contribution", I guess. I mean how much
> were you inconvenienced for your own investment? : )
>

Had you not used your microscope, you might have understood my point;-)

-- 
When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald 
the end of the republic.
					 - Benjamin Franklin

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#4698

In article <mfhqrb$4fj$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
<apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> On 4/1/15 12:32 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
> > <joe@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
> >>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
> >>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
> >>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
> >>
> >> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage
> >> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all.
> >> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of
> >> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.
> >
> > But the free tea and hot chocolate did benefit me.
> 
> Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.
> 
> It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the 
> boss and his family if the company is privately held-- or the stock 
> holders if it's publicly traded. And if it is publicly traded, some of 
> the stock is no doubt owned my mutual funds of which I have several. So 
> I probably paid for it.
> 
> Do I even get a "thanks" or an offer to come by and wash my car or mow 
> my lawn? Hell no, that's gratitude for ya'.

It's paid for via the over-bloated prices the customers pay for the
products / services the company sells ... just like the money paying
the management's / owner's over-bloated pay packet and the greedy
shareholders over-bloated returns.

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#4701

On 4/1/2015 5:18 PM, Aldo Raine wrote:
> Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.
>
> It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the
> boss and his family if the company is privately held-- or the stock
> holders if it's publicly traded. And if it is publicly traded, some of
> the stock is no doubt owned my mutual funds of which I have several. So
> I probably paid for it.
>
> Do I even get a "thanks" or an offer to come by and wash my car or mow
> my lawn? Hell no, that's gratitude for ya'.
>

The company I work at is publicly traded.

Ultimately the "free" goodies come out of the pockets of the employees 
in the form of reduced paychecks.

Similarly, the "free" heat and hot water in my apartment building is 
paid for by the tenants in the form of increased rent.

But FREE really looks good to prospective employees and tenants!


- Joe

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#4703

On 2015-04-02 10:28, Joe wrote:
> On 4/1/2015 5:18 PM, Aldo Raine wrote:
>> Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.
>>
>> It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the
>> boss and his family if the company is privately held-- or the stock
>> holders if it's publicly traded. And if it is publicly traded, some of
>> the stock is no doubt owned my mutual funds of which I have several. So
>> I probably paid for it.
>>
>> Do I even get a "thanks" or an offer to come by and wash my car or mow
>> my lawn? Hell no, that's gratitude for ya'.
>>
>
> The company I work at is publicly traded.
>
> Ultimately the "free" goodies come out of the pockets of the employees
> in the form of reduced paychecks.
>
> Similarly, the "free" heat and hot water in my apartment building is
> paid for by the tenants in the form of increased rent.
>
> But FREE really looks good to prospective employees and tenants!

I worked for a publicly traded co.  When we moved from one building 
where we brewed our coffee in the lab, to a new building, having lab 
coffee brew setups was forbidden.

A company was selected to bring in the new coffee machines.  Not bad, 
but nowhere as good as our old lab coffee ... and we had to pay for the 
coffee.

But not the machine in the corporate area.  That machine was "free" to 
corporate personnel.  The employees were subsidizing coffee for the 
Pres, some VP's, some senior directors and their staff.

So I stopped paying for the coffee at the machine and did without.

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#4704

On 4/2/2015 9:51 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> I worked for a publicly traded co.  When we moved from one building
> where we brewed our coffee in the lab, to a new building, having lab
> coffee brew setups was forbidden.
>
> A company was selected to bring in the new coffee machines.  Not bad,
> but nowhere as good as our old lab coffee ... and we had to pay for the
> coffee.
>
> But not the machine in the corporate area.  That machine was "free" to
> corporate personnel.  The employees were subsidizing coffee for the
> Pres, some VP's, some senior directors and their staff.
>
> So I stopped paying for the coffee at the machine and did without.
>

The reason we have free coffee and soda (and live plants scattered 
throughout the building) is that our Director of Operations toured 
Facebook corporate headquarters and also looked into how Google treats 
its employees.  Out of this he picked and chose those things he felt 
would make the company a local "employer of choice" without breaking the 
bank.

What he failed to realize is that Facebook and Google don't attract as 
many people as they do based solely on free coffee, free soda, and live 
plants.


- Joe

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#4708

In article <551d7178$0$56895$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
<joe@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 4/2/2015 9:51 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> >
> > I worked for a publicly traded co.  When we moved from one building
> > where we brewed our coffee in the lab, to a new building, having lab
> > coffee brew setups was forbidden.
> >
> > A company was selected to bring in the new coffee machines.  Not bad,
> > but nowhere as good as our old lab coffee ... and we had to pay for the
> > coffee.
> >
> > But not the machine in the corporate area.  That machine was "free" to
> > corporate personnel.  The employees were subsidizing coffee for the
> > Pres, some VP's, some senior directors and their staff.
> >
> > So I stopped paying for the coffee at the machine and did without.
> 
> The reason we have free coffee and soda (and live plants scattered 
> throughout the building) is that our Director of Operations toured 
> Facebook corporate headquarters and also looked into how Google treats 
> its employees.  Out of this he picked and chose those things he felt 
> would make the company a local "employer of choice" without breaking the 
> bank.
> 
> What he failed to realize is that Facebook and Google don't attract as 
> many people as they do based solely on free coffee, free soda, and live 
> plants.

Yep, they attract people by having playground slides in the office
(hence why they're mostly 12 year olds) and letting their individual
workers do virtually no work all day long.

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#4707

In article <551d522b$0$43012$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
<joe@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 4/1/2015 5:18 PM, Aldo Raine wrote:
> > 
> > Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.
> >
> > It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the
> > boss and his family if the company is privately held-- or the stock
> > holders if it's publicly traded. And if it is publicly traded, some of
> > the stock is no doubt owned my mutual funds of which I have several. So
> > I probably paid for it.
> >
> > Do I even get a "thanks" or an offer to come by and wash my car or mow
> > my lawn? Hell no, that's gratitude for ya'.
> 
> The company I work at is publicly traded.
> 
> Ultimately the "free" goodies come out of the pockets of the employees 
> in the form of reduced paychecks.
> 
> Similarly, the "free" heat and hot water in my apartment building is 
> paid for by the tenants in the form of increased rent.
> 
> But FREE really looks good to prospective employees and tenants!

The only thing that is truly free is a drink of water (if you satnd in
the rain with your mouth open) and the air you breathe (unless you live
/ work underwater, high in the mountains, or in space) ... EVERYTHING
else is paid for by someone. Usually in the end that someone is the
general public through over-bloated prices for products / service and
taxes.

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#4679

In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
<joe@nospam.com> wrote:

>On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
>>
>
>The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage 
>of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all. 
>There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of 
>the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.

Not a whisky drinker then, eh?

-- 
"I love the way that Microsoft follows standards. 
 In much the same manner as fish follow migrating caribou."
                                               - Paul Tomblin, ASR

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#4683

On 2015-04-01 12:50:58 +0000, Joe said:

> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
>> 
> 
> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage 
> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all. 
> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas 
> of the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.

We have all of that. We also brew our own beer and make our own wine in 
the office. HR drew the line at setting up a distillery :-(
-- 
Chris

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#4690

In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
<joe@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
> > Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
> > to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
> > plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
> 
> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage 
> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all. 
> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of 
> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.

Most people take full advantage alright, even having their breakfast
cereal at work using office milk!

"Nobody" was hyperbole, BUT many people are actually snobs. They can't
be seen drinking instant or office coffee. They must go out (to waste
more time) and buy it from coffee shop made by an "expert barrista in a
cup proudly displaying the logo of Starbucks / The Coffee Club / etc.

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#4691

On 4/1/15   PDT 1:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
> In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
> <joe@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
>>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
>>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
>>
>> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage
>> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all.
>> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of
>> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.
>
> Most people take full advantage alright, even having their breakfast
> cereal at work using office milk!
>
> "Nobody" was hyperbole, BUT many people are actually snobs. They can't
> be seen drinking instant or office coffee. They must go out (to waste
> more time) and buy it from coffee shop made by an "expert barrista in a
> cup proudly displaying the logo of Starbucks / The Coffee Club / etc.
>
There are no- ok, maybe a few- expert barristas at Starbucks.

Support your local espresso house!

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#4697

In article <mfhpvk$lsf$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams
<jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 4/1/15   PDT 1:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
> > In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
> > <joe@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
> >>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
> >>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
> >>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
> >>
> >> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage
> >> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all.
> >> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of
> >> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.
> >
> > Most people take full advantage alright, even having their breakfast
> > cereal at work using office milk!
> >
> > "Nobody" was hyperbole, BUT many people are actually snobs. They can't
> > be seen drinking instant or office coffee. They must go out (to waste
> > more time) and buy it from coffee shop made by an "expert barrista in a
> > cup proudly displaying the logo of Starbucks / The Coffee Club / etc.
> 
> There are no- ok, maybe a few- expert barristas at Starbucks.

I did put it in quotes (although the closing one went missing thanks to
a typo). I really only used Starbucks because it's a brand Americans
would know.



> Support your local espresso house!

They don't need support ... their over-pricing gives them plenty of
support.

There's actually one small privately owned coffee shop in the central
city that sells coffee at about half the price of the big brand shops.

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#4684

On 2015-03-31 07:30:04 +0000, Your Name said:

> Only a few more hours and then April Moron's Day starts ... two days
> (for those of us one day ahead) of stupid senseless posts by idiots who
> think they're being funny.  :-\

Valentine's Day, Mother's Day and Christmas also totally suck.

It's a good rule of thumb towake up with a scowl.

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