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April Moron's Day approaches

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  April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-31 19:30 +1200
    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 08:33 +0100
      Re: April Moron's Day approaches Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-31 04:11 -0400
      Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 13:24 +0000
    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-31 08:49 -0400
      Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 13:25 +0000
    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Joe <joe@nospam.com> - 2015-03-31 11:23 -0500
      Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-01 08:53 +1200
        Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 20:21 +0000
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 16:54 -0400
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 21:49 +0000
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-01 13:19 +1200
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-31 17:29 -0700
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-01 01:21 +0000
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-01 16:14 +1200
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-04-02 15:21 -0700
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-03 13:08 +1200
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-03 00:39 +0000
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-01 03:39 +0000
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-04-01 09:59 -0700
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 10:05 -0700
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-01 23:43 +0000
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-01 08:08 -0700
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 15:52 +0000
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2015-04-01 09:25 -0700
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 17:38 +0000
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-01 09:50 -0700
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 10:04 -0700
                    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 17:57 +0000
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 17:57 +0000
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-04-01 10:01 -0700
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 18:02 +0000
        Re: April Moron's Day approaches Joe <joe@nospam.com> - 2015-04-01 07:50 -0500
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 09:32 -0700
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-01 18:18 -0400
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 15:23 -0700
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-02 08:53 -0400
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-02 07:46 -0700
                    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-02 13:59 -0400
                      Re: April Moron's Day approaches Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-02 11:22 -0700
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-01 22:23 +0000
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-02 00:40 +0000
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-02 09:12 -0400
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-02 13:48 +1200
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Joe <joe@nospam.com> - 2015-04-02 09:28 -0500
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-02 10:51 -0400
                  Re: April Moron's Day approaches Joe <joe@nospam.com> - 2015-04-02 11:42 -0500
                    Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-03 08:26 +1200
                Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-03 09:16 +1200
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-01 18:00 +0000
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2015-04-01 18:14 +0100
          Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-02 08:53 +1200
            Re: April Moron's Day approaches John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-01 15:04 -0700
              Re: April Moron's Day approaches Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-02 13:44 +1200
    Re: April Moron's Day approaches gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-01 10:30 -0700

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#4682

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-04-01 10:05 -0700
Message-ID<010420151005094972%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#4678
In article
<0001HW.1ACC5B69000FB4261169443CF@news.eternal-september.org>, tmo1138
<tmo1138@tmo1138.org> wrote:

> On Mar 31, 2015, Lewis wrote
> (in article<slrnmhmq5p.14on.g.kreme@amelia.local>):
> 
> > In message<slrnmhmi2g.1qoa.tmo1138@DavidJr-MacPro.tmo1138.local>
> > tmo1138<tmo1138@tmo1138.com>wrote:
> > > On 2015-03-31, Jolly Roger<jollyroger@pobox.com>wrote:
> > 
> > > > Speak for yourself. I grind my own beans and brew my own espresso.
> > 
> > > Same here.. if I could get away with it I'd roast my own beans too.. wife
> > > threatened homicide if I started buying roasting equipment.. ;D
> > 
> > Very reasonable of her.
> 
> Insisting I don¹t buy roasting equipment, or kiling me?

Yes.

> --
> "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they 
> are genuine."
> - Abraham Lincoln
> 

By the way, your sigslash is broken; you need a space after the two
hyphens.

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#4695

Fromtmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com>
Date2015-04-01 23:43 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhp0nb.258c.tmo1138@DavidJr-MacPro.tmo1138.local>
In reply to#4682
On 2015-04-01, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article
><0001HW.1ACC5B69000FB4261169443CF@news.eternal-september.org>, tmo1138
><tmo1138@tmo1138.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 31, 2015, Lewis wrote
>> (in article<slrnmhmq5p.14on.g.kreme@amelia.local>):
>> 
>> > In message<slrnmhmi2g.1qoa.tmo1138@DavidJr-MacPro.tmo1138.local>
>> > tmo1138<tmo1138@tmo1138.com>wrote:
>> > > On 2015-03-31, Jolly Roger<jollyroger@pobox.com>wrote:
>> > 
>> > > > Speak for yourself. I grind my own beans and brew my own espresso.
>> > 
>> > > Same here.. if I could get away with it I'd roast my own beans too.. wife
>> > > threatened homicide if I started buying roasting equipment.. ;D
>> > 
>> > Very reasonable of her.
>> 
>> Insisting I don¹t buy roasting equipment, or kiling me?
>
> Yes.
>

Ouch.. :(

>> --
>> "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they 
>> are genuine."
>> - Abraham Lincoln
>> 
>
> By the way, your sigslash is broken; you need a space after the two
> hyphens.

Stupid Hogwasher..  I'll stick to slrn.. 

-- 
Happiness, n.:
	An agreeable sensation arising from contemplating the misery of another.
		-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

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#4673

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2015-04-01 08:08 -0700
Message-ID<mfh1kn$7ld$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4669
On 3/31/15   PDT 6:21 PM, tmo1138 wrote:
> On 2015-03-31, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Speak for yourself. I grind my own beans and brew my own espresso.
>>
>
> Same here.. if I could get away with it I'd roast my own beans too.. wife
> threatened homicide if I started buying roasting equipment.. ;D

May I recommend the Gene roaster set up in your garage? That's where 
mine is and wifey loves the aroma, though not if permeating the whole 
house.

Got a great machine from Chris' Coffee Service in Albany, a Quickmill 
Andreja. Best cappuccino ever.

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#4674

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-04-01 15:52 +0000
Message-ID<co2ihsFmf33U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4673
On 2015-04-01, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 3/31/15   PDT 6:21 PM, tmo1138 wrote:
>> On 2015-03-31, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Speak for yourself. I grind my own beans and brew my own espresso.
>>
>> Same here.. if I could get away with it I'd roast my own beans too.. wife
>> threatened homicide if I started buying roasting equipment.. ;D
>
> May I recommend the Gene roaster set up in your garage? That's where 
> mine is and wifey loves the aroma, though not if permeating the whole 
> house.

Must be nice! Then again, I guess I'm comfortable with my level of
laziness: getting yummy dark roasted beans from a local roaster rather
than investing the time and money into roasting my own. Growing them
here in the Pacific northwest would be silly, if not impossible. : D

> Got a great machine from Chris' Coffee Service in Albany, a Quickmill 
> Andreja. Best cappuccino ever.

Mine's just a lowly $600 Breville Barista Express, but it is reliable
and makes a perfect shot every single time. I make espresso Starbucks
customers can only dream of. : )

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JR

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#4675

Fromisw <isw@witzend.com>
Date2015-04-01 09:25 -0700
Message-ID<isw-FD9ACD.09253601042015@news-roam.garlic.com>
In reply to#4674
In article <co2ihsFmf33U1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-04-01, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On 3/31/15   PDT 6:21 PM, tmo1138 wrote:
> >> On 2015-03-31, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Speak for yourself. I grind my own beans and brew my own espresso.
> >>
> >> Same here.. if I could get away with it I'd roast my own beans too.. wife
> >> threatened homicide if I started buying roasting equipment.. ;D
> >
> > May I recommend the Gene roaster set up in your garage? That's where 
> > mine is and wifey loves the aroma, though not if permeating the whole 
> > house.
> 
> Must be nice! Then again, I guess I'm comfortable with my level of
> laziness: getting yummy dark roasted beans from a local roaster rather
> than investing the time and money into roasting my own. Growing them
> here in the Pacific northwest would be silly, if not impossible. : D

Don't give up. JR; just wait a few more years and it'll be plenty warm 
up your way     8^}

Isaac

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#4685

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-04-01 17:38 +0000
Message-ID<co2ophFp29bU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4675
On 2015-04-01, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
> In article <co2ihsFmf33U1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-04-01, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > On 3/31/15   PDT 6:21 PM, tmo1138 wrote:
>> >> On 2015-03-31, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Speak for yourself. I grind my own beans and brew my own espresso.
>> >>
>> >> Same here.. if I could get away with it I'd roast my own beans too.. wife
>> >> threatened homicide if I started buying roasting equipment.. ;D
>> >
>> > May I recommend the Gene roaster set up in your garage? That's where 
>> > mine is and wifey loves the aroma, though not if permeating the whole 
>> > house.
>> 
>> Must be nice! Then again, I guess I'm comfortable with my level of
>> laziness: getting yummy dark roasted beans from a local roaster rather
>> than investing the time and money into roasting my own. Growing them
>> here in the Pacific northwest would be silly, if not impossible. : D
>
> Don't give up. JR; just wait a few more years and it'll be plenty warm 
> up your way     8^}

Perhaps! But then I'd probably move to someplace cooler anyway. I love
the weather up here. : D

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#4677

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2015-04-01 09:50 -0700
Message-ID<mfh7i5$b9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4674
On 4/1/15   PDT 8:52 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-04-01, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 3/31/15   PDT 6:21 PM, tmo1138 wrote:
>>> On 2015-03-31, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Speak for yourself. I grind my own beans and brew my own espresso.
>>>
>>> Same here.. if I could get away with it I'd roast my own beans too.. wife
>>> threatened homicide if I started buying roasting equipment.. ;D
>>
>> May I recommend the Gene roaster set up in your garage? That's where
>> mine is and wifey loves the aroma, though not if permeating the whole
>> house.
>
> Must be nice! Then again, I guess I'm comfortable with my level of
> laziness: getting yummy dark roasted beans from a local roaster rather
> than investing the time and money into roasting my own. Growing them
> here in the Pacific northwest would be silly, if not impossible. : D

Well, you could always build a 25,000 sq. foot greenhouse with a lot of 
heating and extra lighting to grow your own. I'm sure there are folks 
around who grow another crop similarly but not quite in the open who 
could advise you!
>
>> Got a great machine from Chris' Coffee Service in Albany, a Quickmill
>> Andreja. Best cappuccino ever.
>
> Mine's just a lowly $600 Breville Barista Express, but it is reliable
> and makes a perfect shot every single time. I make espresso Starbucks
> customers can only dream of. : )
>
Beating Starbuck's is like saying it's better than MJB out of a six 
month old can!

:)

I have a Breville- started with it, then went to a La Pavoni lever 
machine, and now, cannot blame the equipment! I never seem to get rid of 
any expensive equipment - so I have a G3, 4 and 5 in the garage, some 
early MacBooks in a box. Would have a Mac Plus and SE 30 but they were 
stolen. Oh, as was an iMac with a large screen.



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#4681

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-04-01 10:04 -0700
Message-ID<010420151004151754%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#4677
In article <mfh7i5$b9$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams
<jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:

> > Must be nice! Then again, I guess I'm comfortable with my level of
> > laziness: getting yummy dark roasted beans from a local roaster rather
> > than investing the time and money into roasting my own. Growing them
> > here in the Pacific northwest would be silly, if not impossible. : D
> 
> Well, you could always build a 25,000 sq. foot greenhouse with a lot of 
> heating and extra lighting to grow your own. 

If he did that, his place would soon be swarming with DEA agents. 
There's another crop that needs that kind of environment.

-- Michelle

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#4687

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-04-01 17:57 +0000
Message-ID<co2pt7Fp29bU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4681
On 2015-04-01, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <mfh7i5$b9$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams
><jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> > Must be nice! Then again, I guess I'm comfortable with my level of
>> > laziness: getting yummy dark roasted beans from a local roaster rather
>> > than investing the time and money into roasting my own. Growing them
>> > here in the Pacific northwest would be silly, if not impossible. : D
>> 
>> Well, you could always build a 25,000 sq. foot greenhouse with a lot of 
>> heating and extra lighting to grow your own. 
>
> If he did that, his place would soon be swarming with DEA agents. 
> There's another crop that needs that kind of environment.

Luckily that's legal here. : )

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#4686

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-04-01 17:57 +0000
Message-ID<co2ps5Fp29bU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4677
On 2015-04-01, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 4/1/15   PDT 8:52 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>> Must be nice! Then again, I guess I'm comfortable with my level of
>> laziness: getting yummy dark roasted beans from a local roaster rather
>> than investing the time and money into roasting my own. Growing them
>> here in the Pacific northwest would be silly, if not impossible. : D
>
> Well, you could always build a 25,000 sq. foot greenhouse with a lot of 
> heating and extra lighting to grow your own. I'm sure there are folks 
> around who grow another crop similarly but not quite in the open who 
> could advise you!

Yeah, sure, I just don't see the ROI, since it would mostly be for
little, old me. : )

>>> Got a great machine from Chris' Coffee Service in Albany, a Quickmill
>>> Andreja. Best cappuccino ever.
>>
>> Mine's just a lowly $600 Breville Barista Express, but it is reliable
>> and makes a perfect shot every single time. I make espresso Starbucks
>> customers can only dream of. : )
>>
> Beating Starbuck's is like saying it's better than MJB out of a six 
> month old can!
>
>:)

True, that.

> I have a Breville- started with it, then went to a La Pavoni lever 
> machine, and now, cannot blame the equipment!

Looks like a *very* nice piece of equipment, I'll give you that.

> I never seem to get rid of any expensive equipment - so I have a G3, 4
> and 5 in the garage, some early MacBooks in a box. Would have a Mac
> Plus and SE 30 but they were stolen. Oh, as was an iMac with a large
> screen.

Shame about the plus and SE! : ( I still have my dad's SE and a few
others sitting here. I do tend to resell my main workstations whenever I
upgrade to newer ones these days, to offset the cost.

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#4680

Fromtmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org>
Date2015-04-01 10:01 -0700
Message-ID<0001HW.1ACC5BE5000FD13F1169443CF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#4674
On Apr 1, 2015, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article<co2ihsFmf33U1@mid.individual.net>):

> Mine's just a lowly $600 Breville Barista Express, but it is reliable
> and makes a perfect shot every single time. I make espresso Starbucks
> customers can only dream of. : )

Nothing lowly about Breville’s.. I have a Saeco superautomatic at home.. 
but there’s a Breville at the office.. nice machine.Makes a great shot..

--
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they 
are genuine."
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#4688

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-04-01 18:02 +0000
Message-ID<co2q5mFp29bU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4680
On 2015-04-01, tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 2015, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article<co2ihsFmf33U1@mid.individual.net>):
>
>> Mine's just a lowly $600 Breville Barista Express, but it is reliable
>> and makes a perfect shot every single time. I make espresso Starbucks
>> customers can only dream of. : )
>
> Nothing lowly about Breville’s.. I have a Saeco superautomatic at home.. 
> but there’s a Breville at the office.. nice machine.Makes a great shot..

I was skeptical at first due to the low price, but have to say I have
been extremely pleased with it. I got it at a $120 discount back in
2011 - paid $519 for it. It's extremely reliable and makes a consistent
shot every time.  Great machine for the money, IMO.

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#4672

FromJoe <joe@nospam.com>
Date2015-04-01 07:50 -0500
Message-ID<551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#4663
On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
>

The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage 
of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all. 
There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of 
the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.

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#4676

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-04-01 09:32 -0700
Message-ID<010420150932086127%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#4672
In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
<joe@nospam.com> wrote:

> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
> > Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
> > to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
> > plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
> >
> 
> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage 
> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all. 
> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of 
> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.

But the free tea and hot chocolate did benefit me.

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#4692

FromAldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net>
Date2015-04-01 18:18 -0400
Message-ID<mfhqrb$4fj$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#4676
On 4/1/15 12:32 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
> <joe@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
>>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
>>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
>>>
>>
>> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage
>> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all.
>> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of
>> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.
>
> But the free tea and hot chocolate did benefit me.
>

Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.

It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the 
boss and his family if the company is privately held-- or the stock 
holders if it's publicly traded. And if it is publicly traded, some of 
the stock is no doubt owned my mutual funds of which I have several. So 
I probably paid for it.

Do I even get a "thanks" or an offer to come by and wash my car or mow 
my lawn? Hell no, that's gratitude for ya'.


-- 
The Government has no money of its own. All that it has it takes in 
taxes or borrows at interest.
				 - Margaret Thatcher

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#4693

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-04-01 15:23 -0700
Message-ID<010420151523411799%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#4692
In article <mfhqrb$4fj$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
<apache@scalpem.net> wrote:

> On 4/1/15 12:32 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
> > <joe@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
> >>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
> >>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
> >>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage
> >> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all.
> >> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of
> >> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.
> >
> > But the free tea and hot chocolate did benefit me.
> >
> 
> Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.
> 
> It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the 
> boss and his family if the company is privately held-- or the stock 
> holders if it's publicly traded. And if it is publicly traded, some of 
> the stock is no doubt owned my mutual funds of which I have several. So 
> I probably paid for it.
> 
> Do I even get a "thanks" or an offer to come by and wash my car or mow 
> my lawn? Hell no, that's gratitude for ya'.

I didn't thank you for my medical care or paid time off either.  And
I'm not going to.

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#4699

FromAldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net>
Date2015-04-02 08:53 -0400
Message-ID<mfje3n$30i$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#4693
On 4/1/15 6:23 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <mfhqrb$4fj$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
> <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/1/15 12:32 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>> In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
>>> <joe@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>>>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
>>>>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
>>>>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage
>>>> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all.
>>>> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of
>>>> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.
>>>
>>> But the free tea and hot chocolate did benefit me.
>>>
>>
>> Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.
>>
>> It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the
>> boss and his family if the company is privately held-- or the stock
>> holders if it's publicly traded. And if it is publicly traded, some of
>> the stock is no doubt owned my mutual funds of which I have several. So
>> I probably paid for it.
>>
>> Do I even get a "thanks" or an offer to come by and wash my car or mow
>> my lawn? Hell no, that's gratitude for ya'.
>
> I didn't thank you for my medical care or paid time off either.  And
> I'm not going to.
>

Too bad yo' momma didn't teach you no manners. Polite people say thanks 
thanks when someone gives them something...

-- 
If you’re offended by the things I say, imagine what I’m holding back…

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#4702

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-04-02 07:46 -0700
Message-ID<020420150746239667%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#4699
In article <mfje3n$30i$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
<apache@scalpem.net> wrote:

> On 4/1/15 6:23 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > In article <mfhqrb$4fj$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
> > <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/1/15 12:32 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> >>> In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
> >>> <joe@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
> >>>>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
> >>>>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
> >>>>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage
> >>>> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all.
> >>>> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of
> >>>> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.
> >>>
> >>> But the free tea and hot chocolate did benefit me.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.
> >>
> >> It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the
> >> boss and his family if the company is privately held-- or the stock
> >> holders if it's publicly traded. And if it is publicly traded, some of
> >> the stock is no doubt owned my mutual funds of which I have several. So
> >> I probably paid for it.
> >>
> >> Do I even get a "thanks" or an offer to come by and wash my car or mow
> >> my lawn? Hell no, that's gratitude for ya'.
> >
> > I didn't thank you for my medical care or paid time off either.  And
> > I'm not going to.
> >
> 
> Too bad yo' momma didn't teach you no manners. Polite people say thanks 
> thanks when someone gives them something...

The point is that he didn't give me any of those, you dumbshit.

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#4705

FromAldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net>
Date2015-04-02 13:59 -0400
Message-ID<mfk02c$4qh$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#4702
On 4/2/15 10:46 AM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <mfje3n$30i$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
> <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/1/15 6:23 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>> In article <mfhqrb$4fj$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
>>> <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/1/15 12:32 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>>>> In article <551be9b3$0$58006$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>, Joe
>>>>> <joe@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/31/2015 3:53 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>> Nobody uses a coffee machine these days ... they all go down the road
>>>>>>> to the coffee shop and pay five times the price for a coffee in a
>>>>>>> plastic / polsytrene / eco-degradable cup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The coffee is free at work, so most coffee drinkers take full advantage
>>>>>> of it.  Not being a coffee drinker, this doesn't benefit me at all.
>>>>>> There's also free soda (two fountain dispensers in two separate areas of
>>>>>> the building).  The free soda mostly doesn't benefit me.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the free tea and hot chocolate did benefit me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ya' see, that's the thing-- calling it free. It ain't free.
>>>>
>>>> It comes out of the pocket of the owners of the company-- likely the
>>>> boss and his family if the company is privately held-- or the stock
>>>> holders if it's publicly traded. And if it is publicly traded, some of
>>>> the stock is no doubt owned my mutual funds of which I have several. So
>>>> I probably paid for it.
>>>>
>>>> Do I even get a "thanks" or an offer to come by and wash my car or mow
>>>> my lawn? Hell no, that's gratitude for ya'.
>>>
>>> I didn't thank you for my medical care or paid time off either.  And
>>> I'm not going to.
>>>
>>
>> Too bad yo' momma didn't teach you no manners. Polite people say thanks
>> thanks when someone gives them something...
>
> The point is that he didn't give me any of those, you dumbshit.
>

Look sweet cheeks, unless you're self-employed, (and I doubt a 
potty-mouth like you could be, at least for long), your boss gave it to 
you.

All compensation, benefits, perks, vacation, sick leave, work 
environment & fixtures, etc., come from your employer. That also 
includes the water fountain, the latrine, and the spatula you use to 
flip the burgers...

-- 
Life is tough.....it's even tougher if you're stupid.
                                     -- John Wayne

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#4706

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-04-02 11:22 -0700
Message-ID<020420151122508908%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#4705
In article <mfk02c$4qh$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
<apache@scalpem.net> wrote:

> > The point is that he didn't give me any of those, you dumbshit.
> >
> 
> Look sweet cheeks, unless you're self-employed, (and I doubt a 
> potty-mouth like you could be, at least for long), your boss gave it to 
> you.

Judicious use of "potty mouth" language is indicative of high
intelligence and a superior vocabulary.

> All compensation, benefits, perks, vacation, sick leave, work 
> environment & fixtures, etc., come from your employer. That also 
> includes the water fountain, the latrine, and the spatula you use to 
> flip the burgers...

Right, but you are not that employer, and a nut case like you would
never be an employer.

As has been pointed out, these benefits come at the expense of a
slightly lower salary; ultimately, though, as with employer-provided
health insurance, both parties benefit.  It is not a zero-sum thing.

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