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  iTunes music library? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-01 17:04 -0700
    Re: iTunes music library? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-02 01:10 +0000
      Re: iTunes music library? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-02 08:57 -0700
      Re: iTunes music library? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-02 10:20 -0700
        Re: iTunes music library? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-02 17:35 +0000
        Re: iTunes music library? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-11-02 14:49 -0400
          Re: iTunes music library? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-02 18:12 -0700
            Re: iTunes music library? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-02 21:31 -0400
              Re: iTunes music library? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-02 19:03 -0700
                Re: iTunes music library? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-02 22:05 -0400
                  Re: iTunes music library? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-02 19:08 -0700
            Re: iTunes music library? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-11-02 22:03 -0400

#6704 — iTunes music library?

i want to start over with my iTunes music library

i have a large collection

180,000 mp3s
940 GBs

it's been accumulating since 1999
and is spread over 13 different disk images
   on 7 different HDs

it's time to redo it

? what's the simplest procedure 

? do i have to delete the old DB and start over

i'd really appreciate any advice on how to proceed

thanks

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#6706

On 2018-11-02, heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> i want to start over with my iTunes music library
>
> i have a large collection
>
> 180,000 mp3s
> 940 GBs
>
> it's been accumulating since 1999
> and is spread over 13 different disk images
>    on 7 different HDs
>
> it's time to redo it
>
> ? what's the simplest procedure 
>
> ? do i have to delete the old DB and start over
>
> i'd really appreciate any advice on how to proceed

select all > delete % drag files back in # done

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#6707

thanks roger

really...
that's so simple, it never entered my mind


> > i want to start over with my iTunes music library
> >
> > i have a large collection
> >
> > 180,000 mp3s
> > 940 GBs
> >
> > it's been accumulating since 1999
> > and is spread over 13 different disk images
> >    on 7 different HDs
> >
> > it's time to redo it
> >
> > ? what's the simplest procedure 
> >
> > ? do i have to delete the old DB and start over
> >
> > i'd really appreciate any advice on how to proceed
> 
> select all > delete % drag files back in # done

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#6708

> select all > delete % drag files back in # done

just to be sure here...

if i select all the files in iTunes music and delete them,
   it won't actually delete the files from my HD

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#6709

On 2018-11-02, heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> select all > delete % drag files back in # done
>
> just to be sure here...
>
> if i select all the files in iTunes music and delete them,
>    it won't actually delete the files from my HD

iTunes never deletes files without asking first

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#6710

On 2018-11-02 13:20, heron stone wrote:

> if i select all the files in iTunes music and delete them,
>    it won't actually delete the files from my HD


Go into iTunes preferences, Advanced, note the location of the current
library.  Exit iTunes. Rename that directory to something else.

Go into iTunes, preferences, advanced, and set a new iTunes Media folder
location. That should give you a blank library.

Make sure you have Keep "iTunes media folder organized" and "copy files
to iTunes Media folder when adding to library" checked.

You can then File -> Add to Library  and add the music files from your
various old locations. This will copy those files to your new single
library and build new index. Once this is done and you are satisfied,
you can delete the various older locations.

Note: playlists are not preserved in this way.


Another way, inspired from:
https://www.kirkville.com/how-to-rebuild-your-itunes-library/

Don't rename the old folder. Just change the preferences to point to new
iTunes library location.

Then import the Library.XML file.  However, not sure if this will cause
the music files to be copied to your new library. But would be a more
comprehensiove way if the copy happens.  (Not renaming old library
ensures the Library.XML file has pointers to valid vile names).

(read the above article carefully as iTunes no longer creates that écml
file by default, but a preference setting causes it to be created)

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#6711

roger's solution seems considerably simpler

? is there some disadvantage to his method



In article <q%0DD.114902$Ol2.52356@fx17.iad>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 2018-11-02 13:20, heron stone wrote:
> 
> > if i select all the files in iTunes music and delete them,
> >    it won't actually delete the files from my HD
> 
> 
> Go into iTunes preferences, Advanced, note the location of the current
> library.  Exit iTunes. Rename that directory to something else.
> 
> Go into iTunes, preferences, advanced, and set a new iTunes Media folder
> location. That should give you a blank library.
> 
> Make sure you have Keep "iTunes media folder organized" and "copy files
> to iTunes Media folder when adding to library" checked.
> 
> You can then File -> Add to Library  and add the music files from your
> various old locations. This will copy those files to your new single
> library and build new index. Once this is done and you are satisfied,
> you can delete the various older locations.
> 
> Note: playlists are not preserved in this way.
> 
> 
> Another way, inspired from:
> https://www.kirkville.com/how-to-rebuild-your-itunes-library/
> 
> Don't rename the old folder. Just change the preferences to point to new
> iTunes library location.
> 
> Then import the Library.XML file.  However, not sure if this will cause
> the music files to be copied to your new library. But would be a more
> comprehensiove way if the copy happens.  (Not renaming old library
> ensures the Library.XML file has pointers to valid vile names).
> 
> (read the above article carefully as iTunes no longer creates that écml
> file by default, but a preference setting causes it to be created)
> 
> 
>

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#6712

In article <021120181812573355%heron@invalid.invalid>, heron stone
<heron@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> roger's solution seems considerably simpler

it also works. 

> ? is there some disadvantage to his method

no


> In article <q%0DD.114902$Ol2.52356@fx17.iad>, JF Mezei
> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> 
> > On 2018-11-02 13:20, heron stone wrote:
> > 
> > > if i select all the files in iTunes music and delete them,
> > >    it won't actually delete the files from my HD
> > 
> > 
> > Go into iTunes preferences, Advanced, note the location of the current
> > library.  Exit iTunes. Rename that directory to something else.
> > 
> > Go into iTunes, preferences, advanced, and set a new iTunes Media folder
> > location. That should give you a blank library.
> > 
> > Make sure you have Keep "iTunes media folder organized" and "copy files
> > to iTunes Media folder when adding to library" checked.
> > 
> > You can then File -> Add to Library  and add the music files from your
> > various old locations. This will copy those files to your new single
> > library and build new index. Once this is done and you are satisfied,
> > you can delete the various older locations.
> > 
> > Note: playlists are not preserved in this way.
> > 
> > 
> > Another way, inspired from:
> > https://www.kirkville.com/how-to-rebuild-your-itunes-library/
> > 
> > Don't rename the old folder. Just change the preferences to point to new
> > iTunes library location.
> > 
> > Then import the Library.XML file.  However, not sure if this will cause
> > the music files to be copied to your new library. But would be a more
> > comprehensiove way if the copy happens.  (Not renaming old library
> > ensures the Library.XML file has pointers to valid vile names).
> > 
> > (read the above article carefully as iTunes no longer creates that écml
> > file by default, but a preference setting causes it to be created)
> > 
> > 
> >

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#6713

thanks

so...

given my simple new setup,
   240,000 audio files
   1.1 TB
all in one folder (with subfolders)

it seems to me the easiest method would be 
   to select all files in iTunes and delete them
then drag the audio folder into iTunes
and wait a long time

? can it really be that simple



In article <021120182131260741%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <021120181812573355%heron@invalid.invalid>, heron stone
> <heron@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > roger's solution seems considerably simpler
> 
> it also works. 
> 
> > ? is there some disadvantage to his method
> 
> no
> 
> 
> > In article <q%0DD.114902$Ol2.52356@fx17.iad>, JF Mezei
> > <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2018-11-02 13:20, heron stone wrote:
> > > 
> > > > if i select all the files in iTunes music and delete them,
> > > >    it won't actually delete the files from my HD
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Go into iTunes preferences, Advanced, note the location of the current
> > > library.  Exit iTunes. Rename that directory to something else.
> > > 
> > > Go into iTunes, preferences, advanced, and set a new iTunes Media folder
> > > location. That should give you a blank library.
> > > 
> > > Make sure you have Keep "iTunes media folder organized" and "copy files
> > > to iTunes Media folder when adding to library" checked.
> > > 
> > > You can then File -> Add to Library  and add the music files from your
> > > various old locations. This will copy those files to your new single
> > > library and build new index. Once this is done and you are satisfied,
> > > you can delete the various older locations.
> > > 
> > > Note: playlists are not preserved in this way.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Another way, inspired from:
> > > https://www.kirkville.com/how-to-rebuild-your-itunes-library/
> > > 
> > > Don't rename the old folder. Just change the preferences to point to new
> > > iTunes library location.
> > > 
> > > Then import the Library.XML file.  However, not sure if this will cause
> > > the music files to be copied to your new library. But would be a more
> > > comprehensiove way if the copy happens.  (Not renaming old library
> > > ensures the Library.XML file has pointers to valid vile names).
> > > 
> > > (read the above article carefully as iTunes no longer creates that écml
> > > file by default, but a preference setting causes it to be created)
> > > 
> > > 
> > >

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#6715

In article <021120181903022648%heron@invalid.invalid>, heron stone
<heron@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> 
> ? can it really be that simple

yes

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#6716

In article <021120182205464382%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <021120181903022648%heron@invalid.invalid>, heron stone
> <heron@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > ? can it really be that simple
> 
> yes

AWESOME

thanks

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#6714

On 2018-11-02 21:12, heron stone wrote:
> 
> roger's solution seems considerably simpler
> 
> ? is there some disadvantage to his method


You mentioned your current library is across different drives etc.
Re-importing the music with your current settings will leave it where it
was.  My instructions did not involve deleting anything and made things
reversible, as well as ensuring your settings resulted in new copies of
music created in the central location instead of across many drives.

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