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  MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-16 08:34 +0200
    Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2021-09-16 06:53 +0000
      Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-16 09:02 +0200
        Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2021-09-16 07:22 +0000
          Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-16 09:41 +0200
        Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 bob prohaska <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2021-09-17 01:47 +0000
          Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-17 10:22 +0200
            Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 bob prohaska <bp@www.zefox.net> - 2021-09-17 16:19 +0000
              Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-17 18:33 +0200
        Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com> - 2021-09-17 22:02 +0000
          Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-18 09:15 +0200
            Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com> - 2021-09-18 22:35 +0000
              Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-19 13:09 +0200
                Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com> - 2021-09-21 05:10 +0000
                  Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-21 08:46 +0200
                    Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-09-21 13:54 +0000
                      Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-21 18:35 +0200
                        Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-09-21 22:05 +0000
                          Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-22 07:15 +0200
                            Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-09-22 12:10 +0000
                    Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com> - 2021-09-25 23:56 +0000
                      Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-26 15:11 +0200
                        Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com> - 2021-09-27 16:28 +0000
                          Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-27 19:20 +0200
                            Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com> - 2021-10-01 15:49 +0000
                    Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-09-27 18:40 +0000
                      Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2021-09-28 08:53 +0200
                        Re: MacDraw for MacOS 10.10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-09-28 14:56 +0000

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#442 — MacDraw for MacOS 10.10

30 years ago I was using MacDraw -  great and simple and (almost)
perfect.

What bothers me: there is no such simple thing for later MacOS?

What I need is an option to enter size and position by hand.
Libreoffice draw does offer that.

But it lacks a choice to cut and intersect lines. It does not even
support circle segments. (it offers "intersect" and "break", but give it
a try and segment a circle to several segments)

On MacOS 10.15 I do use Inkscape - which is far too powerful. But I have
another MBP which I can't upgrade. That's still on MacOS 10.10.

Are you aware of any free, simple, efficient, reasonably powerful
drawing app, such as MacDraw was? I don't want to unpack my Classic for
such a simple (?) task.

SVG support would be a nice bonus

* I don't want an ugly X11 tool

* EasyDraw does not work precisely, no grid and manual edit

* Intaglio is not supported any more, but still expensive.
  It does not intersect circles and lines.

* Cadintosh etc. still cost money and are not worth that
  price for me. So Adobe Illustrator is not in my league.

So maybe I just don't know the proper tool yet - but you do!?

Thanks,
Martin

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#443

On 16. Sep 2021 at 08:34:34 CEST, "Martin Τrautmann" <t-usenet@gmx.net>
wrote:

> * Cadintosh etc. still cost money and are not worth that
>  price for me. So Adobe Illustrator is not in my league.
> 
> So maybe I just don't know the proper tool yet - but you do!?

Well, if you want it for free, I guess you have to write it yourself.
The next one looking for such a tool will be happy if you have written
something useful.

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#444

On 16 Sep 2021 06:53:07 GMT, Bernd Froehlich wrote:
> On 16. Sep 2021 at 08:34:34 CEST, "Martin Τrautmann" <t-usenet@gmx.net>
> wrote:
>
>> * Cadintosh etc. still cost money and are not worth that
>>  price for me. So Adobe Illustrator is not in my league.
>> 
>> So maybe I just don't know the proper tool yet - but you do!?
>
> Well, if you want it for free, I guess you have to write it yourself.
> The next one looking for such a tool will be happy if you have written
> something useful.

Yeah, it sucks to ask for something free - but there are great free
tools. There are companies which proof with free software that they are
capable to offer more advanced software which are worth to pay for. Or
they do offer outdated software for former platforms for free.

And I'd expect a free demo mode to see whether a tool actually can do
what I need it for. 

There are some great tools which are good enough for many people. 
I named Libreoffice before. Sketchup is (or was for some time) free,
it's great to use and it offers in 3D, what MacDraw was in 2D to me.

I could use sketchup for 2D as well - but it sucks for circles.

And it's the intersection of circles and lines what I need right now. 

The level I need is as you would expect for simple pie charts. So
nothing fancy. It's surprising how difficult this task is for many apps.

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#445

On 16. Sep 2021 at 09:02:43 CEST, "Martin Τrautmann" <t-usenet@gmx.net>
wrote:

> Yeah, it sucks to ask for something free - but there are great free
> tools. There are companies which proof with free software that they are
> capable to offer more advanced software which are worth to pay for. Or
> they do offer outdated software for former platforms for free.
> 
> And I'd expect a free demo mode to see whether a tool actually can do
> what I need it for.
> 
> There are some great tools which are good enough for many people.
> I named Libreoffice before. Sketchup is (or was for some time) free,
> it's great to use and it offers in 3D, what MacDraw was in 2D to me.
> 
> I could use sketchup for 2D as well - but it sucks for circles.
> 
> And it's the intersection of circles and lines what I need right now.
> 
> The level I need is as you would expect for simple pie charts. So
> nothing fancy. It's surprising how difficult this task is for many apps.


You could try the demo of GraphicConverter, or Gimp.
(Haven´t tested if they can do what you need, but both are free to try.)

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#446

On 16 Sep 2021 07:22:28 GMT, Bernd Froehlich wrote:
> You could try the demo of GraphicConverter, or Gimp.
> (Haven´t tested if they can do what you need, but both are free to try.)

GC does not support drawing of objects, such as circles.

Gimp was not a native MacOS app, the last time I used it. 
I just tried GIMP-2.10. That looks much more mac-like now.
As GC it's not a real drawing program, but an
"IMage maniPulation" tool. 

So both are not suitable for my purposes.

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#447

Martin ?rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> And it's the intersection of circles and lines what I need right now. 
> 
> The level I need is as you would expect for simple pie charts. So
> nothing fancy. It's surprising how difficult this task is for many apps.

It's vast overkill, and not free, but there's a  demo version
of Ashlar Graphite that might be worth a look. The demo won't
save or print, but I'd imagine you could do some sort of screen
capture once the drawing looks right.  

www.ashlar.com

hth,

bob prohaska
 

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#448

On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:47:51 -0000 (UTC), bob prohaska wrote:
> Martin ?rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>> 
>> And it's the intersection of circles and lines what I need right now. 
>> 
>> The level I need is as you would expect for simple pie charts. So
>> nothing fancy. It's surprising how difficult this task is for many apps.
>
> It's vast overkill, and not free, but there's a  demo version
> of Ashlar Graphite that might be worth a look. The demo won't
> save or print, but I'd imagine you could do some sort of screen
> capture once the drawing looks right.  

Thanks. I just give it a try - and it feels so wrong and clumsy.

When I define a square with a size of 16x16 mm and I give it a line
width of 2 mm, 	it always shows the same line width on the screen,
regardless of the zoom level. I'd expect to keep the line the size it is
- but maybe that's a feature. Maybe it can be turned off?

But I defined an line width of my own at 4 mm. Ok, is shown as double
width. But when I select an object, it then shows the 4 mm when I show
the item with the 4 mm width style. But from the top menu, it is
indicated as 0.5mm width.

When I draw a square, it does draw those as four separate lines instead.
When I group those items (weirdly, the shortcut is cmd-y), I can not
resize this group from the coordinate entry.

The menus are weired, showing the same topic below multiple menus.
Preferences are complicated.

Snap to grid does not work properly - the positions probably show some
rounding errors when I use millimeters as units. The major lines of the
grid shifted position while zooming and moving around.

I do not find any intersect, but just some weired trim tool, which is
hard to control, what to trim. It does not trim with grouped objects?

The demo does not even permit copy/paste. So it's nice to learn about a
new app, but I don't like this one here - Autocad was easier to learn.

So you are right, it's probably too powerful for me. As an experienced
user it may be a good tool. $200 for a 1 year licence, no thanks.

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#449

Martin ?rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I just give it a try - and it feels so wrong and clumsy.
> 
> When I define a square with a size of 16x16 mm and I give it a line
> width of 2 mm,  it always shows the same line width on the screen,
> regardless of the zoom level. I'd expect to keep the line the size it is
> - but maybe that's a feature. Maybe it can be turned off?
> 
> But I defined an line width of my own at 4 mm. Ok, is shown as double
> width. But when I select an object, it then shows the 4 mm when I show
> the item with the 4 mm width style. But from the top menu, it is
> indicated as 0.5mm width.
> 
> When I draw a square, it does draw those as four separate lines instead.
> When I group those items (weirdly, the shortcut is cmd-y), I can not
> resize this group from the coordinate entry.
> 
> The menus are weired, showing the same topic below multiple menus.
> Preferences are complicated.
> 
> Snap to grid does not work properly - the positions probably show some
> rounding errors when I use millimeters as units. The major lines of the
> grid shifted position while zooming and moving around.
> 
> I do not find any intersect, but just some weired trim tool, which is
> hard to control, what to trim. It does not trim with grouped objects?
> 
> The demo does not even permit copy/paste. So it's nice to learn about a
> new app, but I don't like this one here - Autocad was easier to learn.
> 
> So you are right, it's probably too powerful for me. As an experienced
> user it may be a good tool. $200 for a 1 year licence, no thanks.

Surprised it was such a total flop. I've used it since the '90s for
admitttedly casual drafting and liked the fact that after months of 
not thinking about it I could always whip out a 2d shop drawing on
short notice. The snap-to-object ("Drafting Assistant (TM)" was a 
great convenience. Never could get my head around AutoCAD.  

Good luck in your search, please post if you find something useful.

 bob prohaska
 

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#450

On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:19:36 -0000 (UTC), bob prohaska wrote:
> Good luck in your search, please post if you find something useful.

Thanks, I'll do

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#451

For your reference, records indicate that 
Martin =?UTF-8?Q?=CE=A4rautmann?= <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:

> The level I need is as you would expect for simple pie charts. So
> nothing fancy. It's surprising how difficult this task is for many apps.

There are many web tools that offer that kind of graphing.  No Mac-specific app necessary.

And, personally, I’d code the SVG by hand if it were a custom one-off, or write a little code if it were the kind of graphic I’d need to generate dynamically.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#452

On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 22:02:48 -0000 (UTC), Doc O'Leary wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> Martin =?UTF-8?Q?=CE=A4rautmann?= <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> The level I need is as you would expect for simple pie charts. So
>> nothing fancy. It's surprising how difficult this task is for many apps.
>
> There are many web tools that offer that kind of graphing.  No Mac-specific app necessary.

Such as? I doubt that this does actually work very well. But there are
some could tools which actually even do support the usual mac shortcuts.

> And, personally, I’d code the SVG by hand if it were a custom one-off, or write a little code if it were the kind of graphic I’d need to generate dynamically.

I'm not good enough for that. I use wysiwyg instead of TeX.

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#453

For your reference, records indicate that 
Martin =?UTF-8?Q?=CE=A4rautmann?= <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 22:02:48 -0000 (UTC), Doc O'Leary wrote:
> > For your reference, records indicate that 
> > Martin =?UTF-8?Q?=CE=A4rautmann?= <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> >
> >> The level I need is as you would expect for simple pie charts. So
> >> nothing fancy. It's surprising how difficult this task is for many apps.
> >
> > There are many web tools that offer that kind of graphing.  No Mac-specific app necessary.
> 
> Such as?

You can’t do a search for a simple pie chart tool?  Here is one that Google 
offers:

<https://developers.google.com/chart/interactive/docs/gallery/piechart>

> I doubt that this does actually work very well. But there are
> some could tools which actually even do support the usual mac shortcuts.

I’m not sure why that matters so much.  You have a set of numbers you want 
to turn into a pie chart graphic.  That’s just not something that screams 
for a GUI much more advanced than drag and drop.

> > And, personally, I’d code the SVG by hand if it were a custom one-off, or write a little code if it were the kind of graphic I’d need to generate dynamically.
> 
> I'm not good enough for that. I use wysiwyg instead of TeX.

For some things I agree that makes a lot of sense.  But if it is truly 
“nothing fancy” as you say, I don’t understand what is so difficult about 
grabbing a template file from a free SVG site and just editing the text to 
give the specific results you want.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#454

On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 22:35:18 -0000 (UTC), Doc O'Leary wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> Martin =?UTF-8?Q?=CE=A4rautmann?= <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 22:02:48 -0000 (UTC), Doc O'Leary wrote:
>> > For your reference, records indicate that 
>> > Martin =?UTF-8?Q?=CE=A4rautmann?= <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The level I need is as you would expect for simple pie charts. So
>> >> nothing fancy. It's surprising how difficult this task is for many apps.
>> >
>> > There are many web tools that offer that kind of graphing.  No Mac-specific app necessary.
>> 
>> Such as?
>
> You can’t do a search for a simple pie chart tool?  Here is one that Google 
> offers:
>
> <https://developers.google.com/chart/interactive/docs/gallery/piechart>
>

Thanks, I could google that. But pie charts are just an example of the
complexity and operations I need: Intersect circles with lines,
duplicate, move and group.

The example you name here is good to learn how to programme it for SVG.
But it's not a app (offline or online) to draw and manipulate it.

>> I doubt that this does actually work very well. But there are
>> some could tools which actually even do support the usual mac shortcuts.
>
> I’m not sure why that matters so much.  You have a set of numbers you want 
> to turn into a pie chart graphic.  That’s just not something that screams 
> for a GUI much more advanced than drag and drop.

I want to combine it with jpg symbols and text in special fonts.

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#455

For your reference, records indicate that 
Martin =?UTF-8?Q?=CE=A4rautmann?= <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:

> But pie charts are just an example of the
> complexity and operations I need: Intersect circles with lines,
> duplicate, move and group.

I get that, but when you don’t detail exactly *what* output you’re looking 
for, it makes it really hard for people to recommend *any* software, Mac 
or otherwise, that will accomplish what you need.  I mean, it isn’t even 
100% clear that what you really want can (easily) be done with a vector 
format like SVG.

> The example you name here is good to learn how to programme it for SVG.
> But it's not a app (offline or online) to draw and manipulate it.

Fundamentally, there is no difference, so long as you can get the output 
graphic you want.  Manually click-clicking around a GUI has its place, but 
if your source format is some data or an algorithm, you’re much better off 
using a tool that lets the computer do what computers are good at, and 
automate the process of generating the image.

> I want to combine it with jpg symbols and text in special fonts.

I’m not sure anyone knows what that truly means except you.  Maybe the 
approach to take is to pick an app like Inkscape, or any other app, and 
get started.  Have a file that shows what you’ve done and helps 
demonstrate what you’re shooting for.  Then come back and ask question 
about *specific* things you’re having trouble with.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#456

On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 05:10:58 -0000 (UTC), Doc O'Leary wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> Martin =?UTF-8?Q?=CE=A4rautmann?= <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> But pie charts are just an example of the
>> complexity and operations I need: Intersect circles with lines,
>> duplicate, move and group.
>
> I get that, but when you don’t detail exactly *what* output you’re looking 
> for, it makes it really hard for people to recommend *any* software, Mac 
> or otherwise, that will accomplish what you need.  I mean, it isn’t even 
> 100% clear that what you really want can (easily) be done with a vector 
> format like SVG.

I want to draw a square.

I want to draw a circle, crossing the sqare.

I want to draw some lines, cutting the circle.

I want to cut the circle into pieces where I have crossings. I want to
move or delete those pieces.

I want to fill areas with colors or patterns.

I want to adjust line width and colors

I want to save this as jpg, gif, png or pdf

I want to paste images from png files.

>> The example you name here is good to learn how to programme it for SVG.
>> But it's not a app (offline or online) to draw and manipulate it.
>
> Fundamentally, there is no difference, so long as you can get the output 
> graphic you want.  Manually click-clicking around a GUI has its place, but 
> if your source format is some data or an algorithm, you’re much better off 
> using a tool that lets the computer do what computers are good at, and 
> automate the process of generating the image.

If I'd want to convert data to graphics automatically, I'd propably use
something like gnuplot.

But the data I got is e.g. a pie chart with 18%, 20%, 45 %. I'd convert
this to degrees, draw a line, duplicate and rotate that line by the
proper degree, from the center of a circle. Then I'd cut the circle to
pizza segments. 

I'll group and push a certain pizza segment I need outwards. I'd
duplicate the pizza segment downwards, Add two lines and make it to a 3d
pie segment. Then I'd add some text where it does look best.

Those are really simple gui operations which are done within a few
minuts, when you have a proper tool. It's really nothing fancy - put cut
and split is not that easy in the tools I've checked by now.
 
>> I want to combine it with jpg symbols and text in special fonts.
>
> I’m not sure anyone knows what that truly means except you.  Maybe the 
> approach to take is to pick an app like Inkscape, or any other app, and 
> get started.  Have a file that shows what you’ve done and helps 
> demonstrate what you’re shooting for.  Then come back and ask question 
> about *specific* things you’re having trouble with.

Inkscape was ok, more or less. But Inkscape 1.1 does not run on MacOS
10.10. 1.02 requires 10.11. 0.9.2 is not an actual MacOS version, but
X11. Usable, but ugly.

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#457

On 2021-09-21, Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> I want to draw a square.
>
> I want to draw a circle, crossing the sqare.
>
> I want to draw some lines, cutting the circle.
>
> I want to cut the circle into pieces where I have crossings. I want to
> move or delete those pieces.
>
> I want to fill areas with colors or patterns.
>
> I want to adjust line width and colors
>
> I want to save this as jpg, gif, png or pdf
>
> I want to paste images from png files.

* Adobe Illustrator can do all of that.
* Affinity Designer can do all of that.

Both are much more complex than MacDraw, but both will do what you
describe.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#458

On 21 Sep 2021 13:54:37 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2021-09-21, Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>>
>> I want to draw a square.
>>
>> I want to draw a circle, crossing the sqare.
>>
>> I want to draw some lines, cutting the circle.
>>
>> I want to cut the circle into pieces where I have crossings. I want to
>> move or delete those pieces.
>>
>> I want to fill areas with colors or patterns.
>>
>> I want to adjust line width and colors
>>
>> I want to save this as jpg, gif, png or pdf
>>
>> I want to paste images from png files.
>
> * Adobe Illustrator can do all of that.

    23,79 €/month

They offer a free test version, but first they want my CC number. No
thanks.

> * Affinity Designer can do all of that.

    54,99 €

> Both are much more complex than MacDraw, but both will do what you
> describe.

I just gave it a try. Editing of size and position could be done easily
- Inkscape 0.9 can't do that.

But I did not manage yet how to intersect objects. The behavior of
Geometry > Intersect or divide is actually not what I would expect. So
the cutting to pieces does not work that easy as I would have thought.
Probably I will have to find out how to get it done.

I can remove points on the objects, but I can't remove the lines in
between yet. You know how to do this?

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#459

On 2021-09-21, Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 21 Sep 2021 13:54:37 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2021-09-21, Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to draw a square.
>>>
>>> I want to draw a circle, crossing the sqare.
>>>
>>> I want to draw some lines, cutting the circle.
>>>
>>> I want to cut the circle into pieces where I have crossings. I want to
>>> move or delete those pieces.
>>>
>>> I want to fill areas with colors or patterns.
>>>
>>> I want to adjust line width and colors
>>>
>>> I want to save this as jpg, gif, png or pdf
>>>
>>> I want to paste images from png files.
>>
>> * Adobe Illustrator can do all of that.
>
>     23,79 €/month
>
> They offer a free test version, but first they want my CC number. No
> thanks.
>
>> * Affinity Designer can do all of that.
>
>     54,99 €
>
>> Both are much more complex than MacDraw, but both will do what you
>> describe.
>
> I just gave it a try. Editing of size and position could be done
> easily - Inkscape 0.9 can't do that.
>
> But I did not manage yet how to intersect objects. The behavior of
> Geometry > Intersect or divide is actually not what I would expect. So
> the cutting to pieces does not work that easy as I would have thought.
> Probably I will have to find out how to get it done.
>
> I can remove points on the objects, but I can't remove the lines in
> between yet. You know how to do this?

With Affinity Designer, you'll probably have to use a combination of
other features like Geometry > Subtract and Node > Break Curve & Close
Curve to do what you want. It's almost certainly not going to work
exactly like it does in Illustrator. 

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On 21 Sep 2021 22:05:25 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> But I did not manage yet how to intersect objects. The behavior of
>> Geometry > Intersect or divide is actually not what I would expect. So
>> the cutting to pieces does not work that easy as I would have thought.
>> Probably I will have to find out how to get it done.
>>
>> I can remove points on the objects, but I can't remove the lines in
>> between yet. You know how to do this?
>
> With Affinity Designer, you'll probably have to use a combination of
> other features like Geometry > Subtract and Node > Break Curve & Close
> Curve to do what you want. It's almost certainly not going to work
> exactly like it does in Illustrator. 

I'll give it try. But it seems to be much less intuitive than in other
applications.

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#461

On 2021-09-22, Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 21 Sep 2021 22:05:25 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> But I did not manage yet how to intersect objects. The behavior of
>>> Geometry > Intersect or divide is actually not what I would expect.
>>> So the cutting to pieces does not work that easy as I would have
>>> thought.  Probably I will have to find out how to get it done.
>>>
>>> I can remove points on the objects, but I can't remove the lines in
>>> between yet. You know how to do this?
>>
>> With Affinity Designer, you'll probably have to use a combination of
>> other features like Geometry > Subtract and Node > Break Curve &
>> Close Curve to do what you want. It's almost certainly not going to
>> work exactly like it does in Illustrator. 
>
> I'll give it try. But it seems to be much less intuitive than in other
> applications.

As I said, Illustrator and Designer are much more complex than MacDraw,
but they will definitely do what you want. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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