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| Started by | DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> |
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| First post | 2012-03-24 21:17 -0700 |
| Last post | 2012-03-31 08:10 -0700 |
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VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-24 21:17 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-25 00:41 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-24 22:09 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-25 08:42 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-25 13:20 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2012-03-25 17:44 +0000
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-25 11:14 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-25 18:14 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-25 18:29 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-25 11:13 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-25 17:39 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-25 21:11 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-26 00:40 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-26 01:08 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-25 23:16 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2012-03-26 07:19 +0000
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-26 10:55 +0200
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-26 16:10 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-26 22:18 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2012-03-27 07:09 +0000
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-27 04:46 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-03-27 16:39 +0000
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2012-03-27 17:14 +0000
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-03-27 20:00 +0000
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-27 13:45 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-03-27 20:04 +0000
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-27 22:48 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-27 13:23 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-03-27 20:44 +0000
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-27 16:01 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-27 22:52 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-28 07:56 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-28 15:47 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-27 22:54 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-03-28 03:42 +0000
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-28 07:58 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-28 20:59 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-27 22:45 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-03-28 03:43 +0000
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-28 21:05 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-25 18:28 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-25 01:48 -0400
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? David Sankey <David.Sankey@stfc.ac.uk> - 2012-03-26 09:58 +0100
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-26 08:31 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-26 08:43 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2012-03-26 18:09 +0000
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? ~± <info@nospam.net> - 2012-03-27 00:00 +0200
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-27 09:18 -0700
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? ~± <info@nospam.net> - 2012-03-27 22:54 +0200
Re: VPN service that offers NOT "all traffic through VPN"? Maury Markowitz <maury.markowitz@gmail.com> - 2012-03-31 08:10 -0700
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 04:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4f717e74$0$9235$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #769 |
DaveC wrote: > This is the fly in the ointment. I am looking for a way to specify "*.co.uk*" Nop. Must be numeric. However, you can specify subnets instead of individual IPs. so you could specify: 212.58.224.0/19 which would grab any 212.58.224.0 to 212.58.255.255 BBC has an AS number of 2818 Based on one site, I saw the following blocks advertised: 132.185.0.0/16 4777 2516 3356 2818 132.185.128.0/20 4608 1221 4637 2818 212.58.224.0/19 4777 2516 3356 2818 But the site I am using is often incomplete. There may be others. ALso, if BBC uses some CDN services such as AKAMAI or LEVEL3 then all bets are off because the IP address providing the video content may not be BBC. When you get a BBC web page that tries to display some video, you will need to do a "view source" or "page info , view media" and try to find the ip address of the video provider.
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| From | Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 16:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4f71ed33$0$49378$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #769 |
If I'm understanding this thread correctly, in addition to providing VPN service, Witopia also lets you make your computer to be in another country so that it can access sites like BBC iPlayer that can only be viewed in their own countries? I looked at Witopia's website and couldn't find anything that mentioned that capability explicitly, but perhaps that's because they don't want to advertise that they're helping people sneak around copyright laws. So can someone here confirm that Witopia's service allows this, and also, give me an idea of what's required to set it up on Snow Leopard? I was asking a friend about this capability a couple of months ago, and he came back with a warning about using the free open proxy servers (for various reasons) plus a long explanation of how he (a networking engineer) does it himself with a bunch of UNIX programs that I really don't feel like installing... Patty
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| From | "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 17:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnjn3t50.h0h.gsm@cable.mendelson.com> |
| In reply to | #774 |
Patty Winter wrote: > I was asking a friend about this capability a couple of months ago, > and he came back with a warning about using the free open proxy servers > (for various reasons) plus a long explanation of how he (a networking > engineer) does it himself with a bunch of UNIX programs that I really > don't feel like installing... That's why you would pay for it. To get support and instructions. Using a free proxy server is a good idea for watching TV or listening to streaming audio, but you don't want to use it for anything that you send sensitive data to or from. While I'm sure most proxy servers are ok, there could be one that monitors what you do looking for credit card numbers, etc. Free ones more likely than pay ones. There are also other options if they still exist. One was a company that would put a slingbox in their data center and dedicate it to you. You used the regular slingbox viewer on your computer. It was not cheap, around a UKP a day, with discounts if you bought an entire year at one time. Another was a company in Gibralter which was the far end of the spot beam of the UK satellites. They were able to receive FTA (free to the air) the BBC, ITV, etc. They streamed the signals to you and you paid them for the bandwidth. It was legal in Gibralter, it may not be legal where you are, and they may or may not still be in business. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-(
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| From | Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 20:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4f721c71$0$49359$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #775 |
In article <slrnjn3t50.h0h.gsm@cable.mendelson.com>, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote: >Patty Winter wrote: > >> I was asking a friend about this capability a couple of months ago, >> and he came back with a warning about using the free open proxy servers >> (for various reasons) plus a long explanation of how he (a networking >> engineer) does it himself with a bunch of UNIX programs that I really >> don't feel like installing... > >That's why you would pay for it. To get support and instructions. Huh? I don't think my friend was using commercial programs. Even if he was, they weren't anything I wanted to set up. He's helping some folks who live in countries where Internet access is restricted. I just need end-user software, not any kind of proxy server. Patty
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 13:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4f71fca0$0$59058$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #774 |
In article <4f71ed33$0$49378$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: > I looked at Witopia's website and couldn't find anything that mentioned > that capability explicitly, but perhaps that's because they don't want > to advertise that they're helping people sneak around copyright laws. > So can someone here confirm that Witopia's service allows this, and > also, give me an idea of what's required to set it up on Snow Leopard? Yes it works. I use it frequently. Mostly, at our level, it's used for that and by people from outside the US looking to get Hulu and so on; I use it for Pandora and the iPlayer (and the ITV player). It's also heavily used by people in China etc. to get around serious censorship. As for Snow Leopard: just follow the instructions. Their support pages are pretty good, and they offer one-on-one customer service (I've never tried it, so I can't comment on its quality). They don't have a free trial per se, but they do offer a money-back 30-day "guarantee." If you have a US address, they'll ship you a VPN'd router (they call it "Cloakbox") that will sit in front of all the computers on your LAN. The normal license only allows installation on 2 computers. -- ... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child
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| From | Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 20:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4f721d38$0$49359$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #776 |
In article <4f71fca0$0$59058$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: >In article <4f71ed33$0$49378$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, > Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: > >> I looked at Witopia's website and couldn't find anything that mentioned >> that capability explicitly, but perhaps that's because they don't want >> to advertise that they're helping people sneak around copyright laws. >> So can someone here confirm that Witopia's service allows this, and >> also, give me an idea of what's required to set it up on Snow Leopard? > >Yes it works. I use it frequently. Thanks, Warren! >As for Snow Leopard: just follow the instructions. Their support pages >are pretty good, and they offer one-on-one customer service (I've never >tried it, so I can't comment on its quality). As mentioned, I didn't see any information about using overseas media servers. Are you saying to just follow the instructions for their VPN capability, and those will include information on how to tell your computer to go through a proxy server? >They don't have a free >trial per se, but they do offer a money-back 30-day "guarantee." I saw that, yes. >If you have a US address, they'll ship you a VPN'd router (they call it >"Cloakbox") that will sit in front of all the computers on your LAN. The >normal license only allows installation on 2 computers. Oh, okay, Witopia might be overkill for my needs, then. I don't need VPN for anything so am not interested in paying for and installing any hardware. I just want to be able to view occasional videos on the BBC and CBC websites... Patty
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| From | Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 22:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jktu6i$tms$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #778 |
On 03-27-2012 17:05, Wilbur Eleven wrote:
> product they offer. Most people just pay for the service; you already
> have some of the software, and Viscosity is free.
Not a great marketing name for a networking tool.
"And Viscosity won't slow you down!"
--
Wes Groleau
Ostracism: A practice of sticking your head in the sand.
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| From | DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 13:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.CB976FD8017A6D2EB04179BF@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #774 |
> If I'm understanding this thread correctly, in addition to providing > VPN service, Witopia also lets you make your computer to be in another > country so that it can access sites like BBC iPlayer that can only be > viewed in their own countries? > ... > Patty -=-=-=- Patty, A VPN service is commonly referred to as analogous to a tunnel: you use software (and pay an entrance fee) to enter the tunnel and when you come out the other end you are somewhere else (ie, the U.K.) and your IP address (as it looks to everyone else) is of that new location. As someone else said, free VPN services are fine if you're not worried about sensitive information (personal info, credit cards, etc.), but they're OK if you just want to watch TV or such in the other country (ie, U.K.). But free frequently means "slow", so once again TNSTAAFL* applies. Good VPN services have many servers located in many countries and you can choose which one to "be" in those countries. Some lock you to one server/country, and others allow you to switch as your heart desires. (Ask before signing up what the service's policy is regarding this.) Paid VPN services abound. I'm trying out one that I've found to be the fastest so far and quite affordable: <http://www.vpn4all.com> They have a free trial (REALLY 30-day free trial: the first month is free and you don't even give them a credit card # until the 2nd month.) (The following I've not confirmed but I've read that it can be an issue, so it bears checking out...) Regarding credit card use and VPNs, your credit card account sometimes (and PayPal, for sure) watches what IP address (and thereby the country) from which the card is used. This may cause a panic at your bank or PayPal if it's not consistent with your data on-file (this is how fraud is detected). So ask a potential VPN service if they offer a means to let you use your card from a server near your home while still using the VPN. Dave (originator of this thread) (* There's No Such Thing As A Free Lunch)
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| From | Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 20:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4f72269c$0$49366$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #779 |
In article <0001HW.CB976FD8017A6D2EB04179BF@news.eternal-september.org>, DaveC <newsgroups> wrote: > >A VPN service is commonly referred to as analogous to a tunnel: you use >software (and pay an entrance fee) to enter the tunnel and when you come out >the other end you are somewhere else (ie, the U.K.) and your IP address (as >it looks to everyone else) is of that new location. Dave, you're saying "i.e." because I mentioned BBC iPlayer, right? Surely the UK is just an example, not the only possible destination? >Good VPN services have many servers located in many countries and you can >choose which one to "be" in those countries. Some lock you to one >server/country, and others allow you to switch as your heart desires. (Ask >before signing up what the service's policy is regarding this.) Oh, interesting. So you say, "I want VPN service to Canada" and that's the only country you can go to with those companies? >Paid VPN services abound. I'm trying out one that I've found to be the >fastest so far and quite affordable: > ><http://www.vpn4all.com> > >They have a free trial (REALLY 30-day free trial: the first month is free and >you don't even give them a credit card # until the 2nd month.) Thanks for the info! >(The following I've not confirmed but I've read that it can be an issue, so >it bears checking out...) >Regarding credit card use and VPNs, your credit card account sometimes (and >PayPal, for sure) watches what IP address (and thereby the country) from >which the card is used. This may cause a panic at your bank or PayPal if it's >not consistent with your data on-file (this is how fraud is detected). So ask >a potential VPN service if they offer a means to let you use your card from a >server near your home while still using the VPN. So if I subscribe to a VPN company that's based in the U.S. (such as Witopia), but I'm using them to access servers in other countries, if I enter a credit-card number on their website, it will be forwarded to the credit-card company as though I were in another country?? In other words, even my use of Witopia's website will go through their VPN to another country? Patty
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| From | DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 16:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.CB9794D901831950B02919BF@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #780 |
> Dave, you're saying "i.e." because I mentioned BBC iPlayer, right? Surely > the UK is just an example, not the only possible destination? A proxy service is actually what we're talking about: a server you pay to have access "through" to the internet. This server is (usually) in another country (the U.K. is one example). Some services have you choose one country in which you want access to a proxy server, and that's the only country you can have proxy access to for that subscription. Some provide you with a menu from you can choose one of several (one at a time) servers and you can switch as desired, anytime. A VPN (virtual private network) is a "tunnel" and includes (usually) a proxy service as described above. The VPN service gives you the protection of encryption: the traffic between you and the remote proxy server is not visible to anyone short of a government (those with enough $$ to be able to decrypt your traffic). The proxy server gives you some anonymity (you are seen as being located in that country), but if the communication (your web browsing and e-mail traffic) between you and the remote proxy server is readily visible to all and sundry, the anonymity of the proxy service is kind of moot. Hence the power of VPN over simple proxy service. > Oh, interesting. So you say, "I want VPN service to Canada" and that's > the only country you can go to with those companies? Some, yes, some no. (See above.) > So if I subscribe to a VPN company that's based in the U.S. (such as > Witopia), but I'm using them to access servers in other countries, > if I enter a credit-card number on their website, it will be forwarded > to the credit-card company as though I were in another country?? In > other words, even my use of Witopia's website will go through their > VPN to another country? > > Patty That's my understanding. I've not yet tried it but it is important to ask such questions of a potential VPN or proxy service provider before signing up. Good luck! Dave
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 22:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4f727cf6$0$64864$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #783 |
Proxy service won't work because the flash plugin gets its own TCP connections to the internet and doesn't necessarily use the browser,s proxy settings. iPlayer uses Flash.
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-28 07:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4f72fc73$0$441$c3e8da3$4db35a27@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #786 |
In article <4f727cf6$0$64864$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > Proxy service won't work because the flash plugin gets its own TCP > connections to the internet and doesn't necessarily use the browser,s > proxy settings. > > iPlayer uses Flash. Well, it works for me. Flash and all. All connections to the Internet from my machine go through the VPN. Flash doesn't have its own little Internet connection. -- ... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-28 15:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4f736acf$0$59011$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #790 |
Warren Oates wrote: > Well, it works for me. Flash and all. All connections to the Internet > from my machine go through the VPN. Flash doesn't have its own little > Internet connection. VPN != proxy HTTP. Proxy HTTP is done by the browser for its own HTTP connections. The HTTP request is different because it is sent to the proxy server and contains additional headers that allow the proxy server to connect to the desired location. This does not "capture" the connections that Flash makes by itself. a VPN is done at the IP stack level and creates a new IP interface with routes to it. So any application will use that interface/route if the destination IP fits the route.
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| From | Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 22:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jktugk$20s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #783 |
On 03-27-2012 19:01, DaveC wrote:
> The proxy server gives you some anonymity (you are seen as being located in
> that country), but if the communication (your web browsing and e-mail
> traffic) between you and the remote proxy server is readily visible to all
> and sundry, the anonymity of the proxy service is kind of moot. Hence the
> power of VPN over simple proxy service.
But for just web browsing, what makes WiTopia better than SSL ?
A = you
B, C = WiTopia servers
D = destination
A -> B -> C -> D
A to B is encrypted; B to C probably; C to D, no
proxy with SSL: A -> D, fully encrypted all the way
--
Wes Groleau
“Isn't embarrassing to quote something you didn't read
and then attack what it didn't say?”
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| From | Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-28 03:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4f7288ad$0$49324$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #787 |
In article <jktugk$20s$1@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau <none.of@your.biz> wrote: > >But for just web browsing, what makes WiTopia better than SSL ? > >A = you > >B, C = WiTopia servers > >D = destination > >A -> B -> C -> D > >A to B is encrypted; B to C probably; C to D, no > >proxy with SSL: A -> D, fully encrypted all the way Wes, do you know of any free or low-cost proxies that are safe to use? Patty
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-28 07:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4f72fce8$0$441$c3e8da3$4db35a27@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #788 |
In article <4f7288ad$0$49324$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: > In article <jktugk$20s$1@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau <none.of@your.biz> > wrote: > > > >But for just web browsing, what makes WiTopia better than SSL ? > > > >A = you > > > >B, C = WiTopia servers > > > >D = destination > > > >A -> B -> C -> D > > > >A to B is encrypted; B to C probably; C to D, no > > > >proxy with SSL: A -> D, fully encrypted all the way > > Wes, do you know of any free or low-cost proxies that are safe to use? > > > Patty You can Google for a list of proxies, and try them out with iPlayer. The BBC either know about most of them, or know what the signature is, and block them. -- ... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child
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| From | Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2012-03-28 20:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jl0c4m$4dh$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #788 |
On 03-27-2012 23:42, Patty Winter wrote:
> Wes, do you know of any free or low-cost proxies that are safe to use?
The only thing that I _know_ is safe is the one I run myself.
Otherwise, I am taking their word for it.
--
Wes Groleau
Ostracism: A practice of sticking your head in the sand.
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| From | Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2012-03-27 22:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jktu16$tms$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #774 |
On 03-27-2012 12:39, Patty Winter wrote:
> I looked at Witopia's website and couldn't find anything that mentioned
> that capability explicitly, but perhaps that's because they don't want
> to advertise that they're helping people sneak around copyright laws.
> So can someone here confirm that Witopia's service allows this, and
> also, give me an idea of what's required to set it up on Snow Leopard?
Yes. For a better answer, read their FAQ.
--
Wes Groleau
I've noticed lately that the paranoid fear of computers becoming
intelligent and taking over the world has almost entirely disappeared
from the common culture. Near as I can tell, this coincides with
the release of MS-DOS.
— Larry DeLuca
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| From | Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-28 03:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4f7288e5$0$49324$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #784 |
In article <jktu16$tms$2@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau <none.of@your.biz> wrote: >On 03-27-2012 12:39, Patty Winter wrote: >> I looked at Witopia's website and couldn't find anything that mentioned >> that capability explicitly, but perhaps that's because they don't want >> to advertise that they're helping people sneak around copyright laws. >> So can someone here confirm that Witopia's service allows this, and >> also, give me an idea of what's required to set it up on Snow Leopard? > >Yes. For a better answer, read their FAQ. I did read the FAQ. As I noted, they don't say anything about pretending to be in another country. Patty
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| From | Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2012-03-28 21:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jl0ch8$7h6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #789 |
On 03-27-2012 23:43, Patty Winter wrote:
> I did read the FAQ. As I noted, they don't say anything about pretending
> to be in another country.
In the FAQ:
https://www.witopia.net/support/faq/#doyouissueus
Behind the "Why do I need" button on the main page:
"You want to use a service or application that is geographically
restricted by IP address.
A nice side benefit of using WiTopia VPN service is that you can enjoy
the use of an IP address in so many different countries and switch at
will. In fact, the WiTopia VPN network dwarfs the others. Hundreds of
servers spread all over the globe (see chart) with more being added all
the time. Have a request? Let us know."
--
Wes Groleau
Ostracism: A practice of sticking your head in the sand.
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