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Newsreaders

Started byMichelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org>
First post2013-10-27 09:41 -0700
Last post2015-03-29 13:03 +1300
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  Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-27 09:41 -0700
    Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 11:56 -0500
      Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-16 15:20 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-27 13:01 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 12:36 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 14:41 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 19:58 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 15:05 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 20:42 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-10-28 10:23 +1100
          Thoth (not) breaking long URL (was: Newsreaders) "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-28 09:37 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-27 19:57 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-27 19:16 -0700
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:21 -0500
    Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-28 10:58 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-10-27 19:24 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-27 23:42 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-10-27 20:09 -0400
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 19:16 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-28 00:16 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:11 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-28 13:54 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 09:01 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 09:09 +1300
                  Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 20:44 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 01:26 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 21:04 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 02:11 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 22:01 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 03:40 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-28 17:26 +1300
                    Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:17 -0500
                  Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:16 -0500
                    Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-28 14:20 +0100
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 13:39 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:43 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-11-15 15:29 +0100
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-15 09:26 -0600
    Re: Newsreaders Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-27 20:30 -0500
      Re: Newsreaders AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-28 11:02 -0400
    Re: Newsreaders Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-28 00:48 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 15:16 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 15:16 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 15:21 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-28 08:31 -0700
        Re: Newsreaders Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-28 08:57 -0700
          Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-29 05:25 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 09:22 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 21:22 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 13:29 +1300
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 01:43 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 05:04 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 18:25 +1300
                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 01:33 -0400
                    Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 05:37 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 19:25 +1300
                        Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 07:25 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 04:07 -0400
                            Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 09:00 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 10:24 +1300
                                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 09:26 +1300
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 21:35 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2013-10-29 16:28 -0700
                        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 13:33 +1300
                          Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2013-10-29 23:14 -0700
                            Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 21:43 +1300
                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 12:39 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 09:31 +1300
                            Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-31 08:52 +1300
                        Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 19:36 +1300
                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 12:42 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 09:29 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-10-30 16:44 -0400
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 23:22 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 13:15 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-29 10:10 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-29 08:36 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 10:25 +1300
      Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 20:31 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-08 00:49 +0200
      Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-07 18:42 -0600
        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:05 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-08 16:12 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 15:21 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 20:01 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-08 18:09 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:48 -0600
              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 20:51 -0600
              Re: Newsreaders Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-02-28 12:19 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 01:40 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:50 -0600
        Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 19:26 +0200
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 17:31 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 23:22 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 23:44 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 02:01 +0100
            Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 10:00 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 13:27 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 09:51 -0500
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 18:55 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-11 23:28 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-09 19:40 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-10 04:34 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:04 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-08 03:33 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:50 +0100
        Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 16:19 +0200
      Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:53 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-27 04:07 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-03-27 14:45 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-27 14:18 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:50 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 13:03 +1300
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 00:30 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-27 14:27 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-27 13:10 -0700
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-27 20:14 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-28 01:26 -0700
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 14:30 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 01:41 -0700
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:22 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:43 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 06:29 -0400
              Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-28 14:47 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:36 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:27 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:22 -0400
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 23:47 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:26 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 14:51 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 14:00 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:30 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 17:08 -0400
                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:13 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:10 -0400
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 23:46 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 01:45 -0700
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:23 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-28 17:09 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:18 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:29 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 20:15 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 00:30 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 21:28 -0400
                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:21 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:15 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-29 16:37 -0400
                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 20:44 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-29 17:58 -0400
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 00:07 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:26 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:17 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:25 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 12:53 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:46 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 17:32 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-27 22:33 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 01:33 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-03-27 22:16 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 05:10 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-03-27 21:03 -0700
          Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 05:11 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 06:12 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-03-28 10:32 -0700
              Re: Newsreaders DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2015-03-28 12:53 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:18 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:16 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:27 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 12:56 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:49 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 17:33 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 18:25 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 02:00 -0700
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:30 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:32 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 20:43 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 03:16 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:22 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-29 14:40 -0700
                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 03:23 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 00:02 -0400
                            Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-29 21:38 -0700
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 07:43 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-30 08:30 -0700
                                  Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 11:36 -0400
                                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:18 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 16:34 -0400
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:20 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-01 20:46 +1300
                                          Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 09:37 -0700
                                        Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-01 04:22 -0400
                                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 21:22 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-31 13:53 +1300
                                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 01:02 +0000
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:23 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-30 21:49 -0400
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:24 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 09:39 -0700
                                          Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-04-20 20:46 +0200
                                            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-20 14:52 -0400
                                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 18:53 +0000
                                              Re: Newsreaders dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-21 10:45 +1200
                                                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 02:08 +0000
                                                  Re: Newsreaders dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-21 15:07 +1200
                                                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 04:22 +0000
                                                  Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-21 11:58 -0500
                                                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-21 13:05 -0400
                                                      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-21 23:49 +0000
                                                        Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-21 20:53 -0400
                                                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-22 03:30 +0000
                                                      Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-04-22 12:03 +0200
                                                      Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-22 17:32 -0500
                                                        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 18:08 +1200
                                            Re: Newsreaders Gordon Sande <Gordon.Sande@gmail.com> - 2015-04-20 17:05 -0300
                                            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-21 05:41 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:13 -0500
                                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:32 +0000
                                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:20 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:38 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:08 -0500
                            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 10:01 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:24 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-30 14:54 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:27 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-30 21:43 -0400
                            Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-30 21:45 -0400
                              Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-03-30 19:46 -0700
                                Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-31 14:55 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:30 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:43 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:36 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-29 23:36 -0500
                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 07:39 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:35 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:14 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:35 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 22:59 -0500
                                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:18 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-01 04:22 -0400
                                      Re: Newsreaders TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-04-01 08:11 -0500
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 23:59 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-02 02:14 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-01 09:05 -0500
                                      Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-01 16:51 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 17:51 +0000
                                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-02 00:03 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-01 17:06 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 22:56 -0500
                          Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-30 15:17 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 11:22 -0400
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:38 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:27 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:39 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:26 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 21:17 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:04 -0500
                                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:27 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-31 14:28 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 12:41 -0400
                                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:28 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-01 23:47 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:33 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 01:49 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2015-03-28 09:03 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-28 09:17 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:52 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-28 16:00 -0700
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 23:06 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 03:00 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 23:51 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 12:48 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Buster Friendly <lah@de.da.ru.ru> - 2015-03-29 09:01 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2015-03-29 15:33 +0200
                    Re: Newsreaders Buster Friendly <lah@de.da.ru.ru> - 2015-03-29 09:40 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 17:04 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-30 13:37 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 13:03 +1300
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:28 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-28 15:59 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 13:03 +1300

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#2610

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-03-29 12:53 +0000
Message-ID<cnqauiFj2crU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2599
On 2015-03-29, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>> On 2015-03-28, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? M. John Matlaw <nouser@invalid.com> was all, like:
>>>> I'm just wondering whether someone with very limited, decades old 
>>>> programming experience could dl the source code, a compiler, other tools 
>>>> (version 2 of S-Lang and its "development" files?) and get a usable 
>>>> newsreader.
>>>
>>> You have a compiler available from Apple. IIRC the simplest way to
>>> install the command line tools is open a terminal and type gcc, which
>>> will prompt you to install them.
>
>> ? No.
>
>>> You download two files (slrn-1.0.1 and slang-2) and type ./configure in
>>> the slang directory and then ./configure in the slrn directory. Done.
>
>> No, that will only configure the package. You still need to compile and
>> install it.
>
>> ./configure
>> make
>> sudo make install
>
> Well, you can skip make and just do sudo make install.

No, you can't skip the make. You first have to configure the package for
your build environment. Then you have to compile it. Only after you
configure and compile it can you install it. When you run make with no
arguments, the compile is executed from the start. If you do not do
this, the package is not compiled. When you run make with the "install"
argument, only the "install" target is executed. 

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#2621

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-03-29 16:46 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhgb55.1i53.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#2610
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
> On 2015-03-29, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>>> On 2015-03-28, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? M. John Matlaw <nouser@invalid.com> was all, like:
>>>>> I'm just wondering whether someone with very limited, decades old 
>>>>> programming experience could dl the source code, a compiler, other tools 
>>>>> (version 2 of S-Lang and its "development" files?) and get a usable 
>>>>> newsreader.
>>>>
>>>> You have a compiler available from Apple. IIRC the simplest way to
>>>> install the command line tools is open a terminal and type gcc, which
>>>> will prompt you to install them.
>>
>>> ? No.
>>
>>>> You download two files (slrn-1.0.1 and slang-2) and type ./configure in
>>>> the slang directory and then ./configure in the slrn directory. Done.
>>
>>> No, that will only configure the package. You still need to compile and
>>> install it.
>>
>>> ./configure
>>> make
>>> sudo make install
>>
>> Well, you can skip make and just do sudo make install.

> No, you can't skip the make.

./configure && make install 

Do it all the time, has always worked. Well, for values of "always" that
are within the last 15 years or so.

>You first have to configure the package for your build environment.
>Then you have to compile it. Only after you configure and compile it
>can you install it. When you run make with no arguments, the compile is
>executed from the start. If you do not do this, the package is not
>compiled. When you run make with the "install" argument, only the
>"install" target is executed. 

Funny, I just built bind and a new version of postfix last night using
"make install" without make and it worked fine. 

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com
Anybody who could duck the Vietnam war can certainly duck a couple of
shoes.

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#2624

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-03-29 17:32 +0000
Message-ID<cnqr9qFkkh4U7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2621
On 2015-03-29, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> ./configure && make install 
>
> Do it all the time, has always worked. Well, for values of "always" that
> are within the last 15 years or so.

Then you've been lucky. I've come across projects where the install
target didn't do things that needed to be done before installation, and
you had to run make (all) first. If the build package is not written to
so a make all from the install target, you'll have to run it first.

> Funny, I just built bind and a new version of postfix last night using
> "make install" without make and it worked fine. 

Not all build packages are created the same.

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#2549

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-03-27 22:33 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhbmo6.13p2.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#2541
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> was all, like:
> Any updates for this thread?  I'm... trying to come back to USENET, but 
> if I can't find a decent newsreader, I'll give up.  I'm using the 
> Unison trial for now, and individual.net, but those will both expire in 
> a few days.  Whether I re-up is up in the air.

Slrn via terminal. You can even use BBEdit (or TextWrangler) as your
editor.

set editor_command "bbedit -w --resume +%d '%s'

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com
Something wonderful, if you took the long view, was about to happen. If
you took the short or medium view, something horrible was about to
happen. It's like the difference between seeing a beautiful new star in
the winter sky and actually being close to the supernova. It's the
difference between the beauty of morning dew on a cobweb and actually
being a fly. --Reaper Man

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#2551

Fromtmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com>
Date2015-03-28 01:33 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhc181.nmd.tmo1138@davidjr-macpro.local>
In reply to#2541
On 2015-03-27, Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:
> Any updates for this thread?  I'm... trying to come back to USENET, but 
> if I can't find a decent newsreader, I'll give up.  I'm using the 
> Unison trial for now, and individual.net, but those will both expire in 
> a few days.  Whether I re-up is up in the air.
>

I see a few options.. 

Unison (if you can get it to work in Yosemite - it won't work for me; screen
refresh problems).
Thunderbird (hey it's better than nothing)
slrn (what I've opted to use because it's the most straightfoward vs the power
it provides)
xpn (if you install the right bottles in homebrew you can get this working from
the source)
MacSOUP

The other ones out there either have stopped working (MT-Newswatcher) the
authors are gone (thoth) or are crap (Hogwasher, Maxnews).

IMHO, YMMV, IANAL, etc

-- 
Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens
to you.
		-- Aldous Huxley

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#2552

FromTaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com>
Date2015-03-27 22:16 -0500
Message-ID<cnmkp8Fl8ofU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2551
On 2015-03-28 01:33:01 +0000, tmo1138 said:

> commenting on newsreader options....

> Unison (if you can get it to work in Yosemite - it won't work for me; screen
> refresh problems).

I'm running Unison (Version 2.2) under Yosemite (Version 10.10.3) and 
am not, at least to my awareness, experiencing any problems.

-- 
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas

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#2554

Fromtmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com>
Date2015-03-28 05:10 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhcdvq.pln.tmo1138@DavidJr-MacPro.tmo1138.local>
In reply to#2552
On 2015-03-28, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
> On 2015-03-28 01:33:01 +0000, tmo1138 said:
>
>> commenting on newsreader options....
>
>> Unison (if you can get it to work in Yosemite - it won't work for me; screen
>> refresh problems).
>
> I'm running Unison (Version 2.2) under Yosemite (Version 10.10.3) and 
> am not, at least to my awareness, experiencing any problems.
>

Yea Panic isn't sure what's happening - only that I'm not the only person who
has told them about this.

-- 
WHERE CAN THE MATTER BE
	Oh, dear, where can the matter be
	When it's converted to energy?
	There is a slight loss of parity.
	Johnny's so long at the fair.

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#2553

Frombill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca>
Date2015-03-27 21:03 -0700
Message-ID<billvan-E45A84.21034127032015@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>
In reply to#2551
In article <slrnmhc181.nmd.tmo1138@davidjr-macpro.local>,
 tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> wrote:

> On 2015-03-27, Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:
> > Any updates for this thread?  I'm... trying to come back to USENET, but 
> > if I can't find a decent newsreader, I'll give up.  I'm using the 
> > Unison trial for now, and individual.net, but those will both expire in 
> > a few days.  Whether I re-up is up in the air.
> >
> 
> I see a few options.. 
> 
> Unison (if you can get it to work in Yosemite - it won't work for me; screen
> refresh problems).
> Thunderbird (hey it's better than nothing)
> slrn (what I've opted to use because it's the most straightfoward vs the 
> power
> it provides)
> xpn (if you install the right bottles in homebrew you can get this working 
> from
> the source)
> MacSOUP
> 
> The other ones out there either have stopped working (MT-Newswatcher) the
> authors are gone (thoth) or are crap (Hogwasher, Maxnews).
> 
> IMHO, YMMV, IANAL, etc

And some are still happily using MTNW in 10.6.8, because there's no 
compelling reason to upgrade just yet.
-- 
bill

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#2555

Fromtmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com>
Date2015-03-28 05:11 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhce1i.pln.tmo1138@DavidJr-MacPro.tmo1138.local>
In reply to#2553
On 2015-03-28, bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> And some are still happily using MTNW in 10.6.8, because there's no 
> compelling reason to upgrade just yet.

Absolutely!  I should have said "A few options for Yosemite".. but that's also
why I added the disclaimer at the end..

-- 
I just know I'm a better manager when I have Joe DiMaggio in center field.
		-- Casey Stengel

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#2557

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-03-28 06:12 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhchjq.195g.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#2553
Okay, so one time? In band camp? bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> was all, like:

> And some are still happily using MTNW in 10.6.8, because there's no 
> compelling reason to upgrade just yet.

There are *many* compelling reasons to upgrade, in fact. They may not
apply to you, or you may not be aware of them, but they certainly exist.

Continuity and iCloud are each enough reason for me, and that's just off
the top of my head.

Thinking for a few seconds, the massively improved memory management and
energy efficiencies are each a rason to upgrade. I have much better
battery life on my laptop with 10.10 than I did with 10.6-10.8, at least.

Instant Hotspot, which I use often when I take my computer out and
about, and even occasionally at home when I want to test something from
outside my LAN.

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com
"Kill yourself and roll a rogue. We'll wait"

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#2565

Frombill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca>
Date2015-03-28 10:32 -0700
Message-ID<billvan-D7D671.10325128032015@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>
In reply to#2557
In article <slrnmhchjq.195g.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> Okay, so one time? In band camp? bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> was all, 
> like:
> 
> > And some are still happily using MTNW in 10.6.8, because there's no 
> > compelling reason to upgrade just yet.
> 
> There are *many* compelling reasons to upgrade, in fact. They may not
> apply to you, or you may not be aware of them, but they certainly exist.

You're right, they don't apply to me. I accept that there are many 
users, quite possibly most, who need one or more features of the latest 
OS versions. But I'm a low-power user: word-processing, email, general 
browsing and searching, Usenet, Skype, a few aging games. It all works 
well for me now. I don't use any wireless devices that need synching. If 
I upgrade, I break the last version of the news reader I've been using 
since 1994 and a few older games. I gain nothing I feel a need for.

I'll have to upgrade sooner or later when something I need comes along, 
or Apple decides to block the free upgrade path that exists now. But not 
yet.
> 
> Continuity and iCloud are each enough reason for me, and that's just off
> the top of my head.
> 
> Thinking for a few seconds, the massively improved memory management and
> energy efficiencies are each a rason to upgrade. I have much better
> battery life on my laptop with 10.10 than I did with 10.6-10.8, at least.
> 
> Instant Hotspot, which I use often when I take my computer out and
> about, and even occasionally at home when I want to test something from
> outside my LAN.

bill
-- 
bill

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#2567

FromDaveC <not@home.cow>
Date2015-03-28 12:53 -0700
Message-ID<0001HW.1AC73E2600A715E11090593CF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#2565
On 28 Mar 2015, bill van wrote:

> If
> I upgrade, I break the last version of the news reader I've been using
> since 1994 and a few older games. I gain nothing I feel a need for.
> 
> I'll have to upgrade sooner or later when something I need comes along,
> or Apple decides to block the free upgrade path that exists now. But not
> yet.

Don’t forget peripherals. Drivers (printer, scanner, etc.) notoriously quit 
working when one upgrades OS. And frequently this means buying a new 
peripheral(s) as the manufacturer didn’t release an updated driver for your 
model. Doubly likely if you’re skipping several OS versions in your 
upgrade.

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#2576

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-03-28 21:18 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhe6mk.1dg3.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#2567
Okay, so one time? In band camp? DaveC <not@home.cow> was all, like:
> On 28 Mar 2015, bill van wrote:

>> If
>> I upgrade, I break the last version of the news reader I've been using
>> since 1994 and a few older games. I gain nothing I feel a need for.
>> 
>> I'll have to upgrade sooner or later when something I need comes along,
>> or Apple decides to block the free upgrade path that exists now. But not
>> yet.

> Don’t forget peripherals. Drivers (printer, scanner, etc.) notoriously quit 
> working when one upgrades OS. And frequently this means buying a new 
> peripheral(s) as the manufacturer didn’t release an updated driver for your 
> model. Doubly likely if you’re skipping several OS versions in your 
> upgrade.

It's been a long time since an OS update broke a peripheral for me. Of
course, I stopped buying HP printers a long time ago.

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com
Varium et mutabile semper Femina.

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#2580

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-03-28 22:16 +0000
Message-ID<cnonh3F76eeU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2567
On 2015-03-28, DaveC <not@home.cow> wrote:
> On 28 Mar 2015, bill van wrote:
>
>> If I upgrade, I break the last version of the news reader I've been
>> using since 1994 and a few older games. I gain nothing I feel a need
>> for.
>> 
>> I'll have to upgrade sooner or later when something I need comes
>> along, or Apple decides to block the free upgrade path that exists
>> now. But not yet.
>
> Don’t forget peripherals. Drivers (printer, scanner, etc.) notoriously quit 
> working when one upgrades OS.

Huh? I've upgraded OS X from 10.3 all the way to 10.10 without a single
peripheral malfunctioning. You must be thinking of *other* operating
systems.

> And frequently this means buying a new 
> peripheral(s) as the manufacturer didn’t release an updated driver for your 
> model.

That's definitely *not* the case with OS X.

> Doubly likely if you’re skipping several OS versions in your 
> upgrade.

Again, you must be referring to some *other* OS.

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#2601

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-03-29 01:27 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhela8.1fhr.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#2580
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
> On 2015-03-28, DaveC <not@home.cow> wrote:
>> On 28 Mar 2015, bill van wrote:
>>
>>> If I upgrade, I break the last version of the news reader I've been
>>> using since 1994 and a few older games. I gain nothing I feel a need
>>> for.
>>> 
>>> I'll have to upgrade sooner or later when something I need comes
>>> along, or Apple decides to block the free upgrade path that exists
>>> now. But not yet.
>>
>> Don’t forget peripherals. Drivers (printer, scanner, etc.) notoriously quit 
>> working when one upgrades OS.

> Huh? I've upgraded OS X from 10.3 all the way to 10.10 without a single
> peripheral malfunctioning. You must be thinking of *other* operating
> systems.

I did have an HP printer that stopped working some time around 10.5 or
maybe 10.4.

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#2611

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-03-29 12:56 +0000
Message-ID<cnqb3sFj2crU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2601
On 2015-03-29, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>> On 2015-03-28, DaveC <not@home.cow> wrote:
>>> On 28 Mar 2015, bill van wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I upgrade, I break the last version of the news reader I've been
>>>> using since 1994 and a few older games. I gain nothing I feel a need
>>>> for.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll have to upgrade sooner or later when something I need comes
>>>> along, or Apple decides to block the free upgrade path that exists
>>>> now. But not yet.
>>>
>>> Don’t forget peripherals. Drivers (printer, scanner, etc.) notoriously quit 
>>> working when one upgrades OS.
>
>> Huh? I've upgraded OS X from 10.3 all the way to 10.10 without a single
>> peripheral malfunctioning. You must be thinking of *other* operating
>> systems.
>
> I did have an HP printer that stopped working some time around 10.5 or
> maybe 10.4.

How old was it at the time?

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#2622

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-03-29 16:49 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhgba1.1i53.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#2611
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
> On 2015-03-29, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>>> On 2015-03-28, DaveC <not@home.cow> wrote:
>>>> On 28 Mar 2015, bill van wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If I upgrade, I break the last version of the news reader I've been
>>>>> using since 1994 and a few older games. I gain nothing I feel a need
>>>>> for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll have to upgrade sooner or later when something I need comes
>>>>> along, or Apple decides to block the free upgrade path that exists
>>>>> now. But not yet.
>>>>
>>>> Don’t forget peripherals. Drivers (printer, scanner, etc.) notoriously quit 
>>>> working when one upgrades OS.
>>
>>> Huh? I've upgraded OS X from 10.3 all the way to 10.10 without a single
>>> peripheral malfunctioning. You must be thinking of *other* operating
>>> systems.
>>
>> I did have an HP printer that stopped working some time around 10.5 or
>> maybe 10.4.

> How old was it at the time?

I don't remember which printer it was anymore. As I recall, they came
out with new drivers for it for Vista but not for 10.*mumble*.

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#2625

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-03-29 17:33 +0000
Message-ID<cnqrb4Fkkh4U8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2622
On 2015-03-29, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>> On 2015-03-29, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>>>> On 2015-03-28, DaveC <not@home.cow> wrote:
>>>>> On 28 Mar 2015, bill van wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I upgrade, I break the last version of the news reader I've been
>>>>>> using since 1994 and a few older games. I gain nothing I feel a need
>>>>>> for.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll have to upgrade sooner or later when something I need comes
>>>>>> along, or Apple decides to block the free upgrade path that exists
>>>>>> now. But not yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don’t forget peripherals. Drivers (printer, scanner, etc.) notoriously quit 
>>>>> working when one upgrades OS.
>>>
>>>> Huh? I've upgraded OS X from 10.3 all the way to 10.10 without a single
>>>> peripheral malfunctioning. You must be thinking of *other* operating
>>>> systems.
>>>
>>> I did have an HP printer that stopped working some time around 10.5 or
>>> maybe 10.4.
>
>> How old was it at the time?
>
> I don't remember which printer it was anymore. As I recall, they came
> out with new drivers for it for Vista but not for 10.*mumble*.

"They" being HP.

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#2626

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-03-29 18:25 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhggto.ui.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#2625
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
> On 2015-03-29, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>>> On 2015-03-29, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
>>>>> On 2015-03-28, DaveC <not@home.cow> wrote:
>>>>>> On 28 Mar 2015, bill van wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I upgrade, I break the last version of the news reader I've been
>>>>>>> using since 1994 and a few older games. I gain nothing I feel a need
>>>>>>> for.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'll have to upgrade sooner or later when something I need comes
>>>>>>> along, or Apple decides to block the free upgrade path that exists
>>>>>>> now. But not yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don’t forget peripherals. Drivers (printer, scanner, etc.) notoriously quit 
>>>>>> working when one upgrades OS.
>>>>
>>>>> Huh? I've upgraded OS X from 10.3 all the way to 10.10 without a single
>>>>> peripheral malfunctioning. You must be thinking of *other* operating
>>>>> systems.
>>>>
>>>> I did have an HP printer that stopped working some time around 10.5 or
>>>> maybe 10.4.
>>
>>> How old was it at the time?
>>
>> I don't remember which printer it was anymore. As I recall, they came
>> out with new drivers for it for Vista but not for 10.*mumble*.

> "They" being HP.

Yes.


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#2607

FromHoward S Shubs <howard@shubs.net>
Date2015-03-29 02:00 -0700
Message-ID<cnpt9pFfkq6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2580
On 2015-03-28 22:16:03 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> Again, you must be referring to some *other* OS.

Not a bit.  Apple isn't big on backwards compatability.  Scanner 
software for my CanoScan 9950F failed.  MT-NW failed.  These were huge 
for me.  Thank god for VueScan, at least!

Or was that sarcasm?  I'm a bit tired.

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