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Newsreaders

Started byMichelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org>
First post2013-10-27 09:41 -0700
Last post2015-03-29 13:03 +1300
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  Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-27 09:41 -0700
    Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 11:56 -0500
      Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-16 15:20 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-27 13:01 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 12:36 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 14:41 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 19:58 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 15:05 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 20:42 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-10-28 10:23 +1100
          Thoth (not) breaking long URL (was: Newsreaders) "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-28 09:37 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-27 19:57 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-27 19:16 -0700
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:21 -0500
    Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-28 10:58 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-10-27 19:24 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-27 23:42 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-10-27 20:09 -0400
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 19:16 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-28 00:16 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:11 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-28 13:54 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 09:01 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 09:09 +1300
                  Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 20:44 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 01:26 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 21:04 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 02:11 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 22:01 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 03:40 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-28 17:26 +1300
                    Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:17 -0500
                  Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:16 -0500
                    Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-28 14:20 +0100
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 13:39 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:43 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-11-15 15:29 +0100
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-15 09:26 -0600
    Re: Newsreaders Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-27 20:30 -0500
      Re: Newsreaders AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-28 11:02 -0400
    Re: Newsreaders Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-28 00:48 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 15:16 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 15:16 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 15:21 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-28 08:31 -0700
        Re: Newsreaders Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-28 08:57 -0700
          Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-29 05:25 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 09:22 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 21:22 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 13:29 +1300
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 01:43 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 05:04 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 18:25 +1300
                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 01:33 -0400
                    Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 05:37 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 19:25 +1300
                        Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 07:25 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 04:07 -0400
                            Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 09:00 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 10:24 +1300
                                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 09:26 +1300
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 21:35 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2013-10-29 16:28 -0700
                        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 13:33 +1300
                          Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2013-10-29 23:14 -0700
                            Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 21:43 +1300
                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 12:39 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 09:31 +1300
                            Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-31 08:52 +1300
                        Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 19:36 +1300
                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 12:42 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 09:29 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-10-30 16:44 -0400
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 23:22 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 13:15 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-29 10:10 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-29 08:36 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 10:25 +1300
      Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 20:31 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-08 00:49 +0200
      Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-07 18:42 -0600
        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:05 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-08 16:12 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 15:21 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 20:01 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-08 18:09 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:48 -0600
              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 20:51 -0600
              Re: Newsreaders Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-02-28 12:19 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 01:40 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:50 -0600
        Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 19:26 +0200
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 17:31 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 23:22 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 23:44 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 02:01 +0100
            Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 10:00 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 13:27 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 09:51 -0500
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 18:55 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-11 23:28 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-09 19:40 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-10 04:34 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:04 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-08 03:33 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:50 +0100
        Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 16:19 +0200
      Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:53 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-27 04:07 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-03-27 14:45 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-27 14:18 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:50 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 13:03 +1300
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 00:30 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-27 14:27 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-27 13:10 -0700
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-27 20:14 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-28 01:26 -0700
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 14:30 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 01:41 -0700
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:22 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:43 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 06:29 -0400
              Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-28 14:47 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:36 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:27 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:22 -0400
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 23:47 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:26 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 14:51 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 14:00 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:30 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 17:08 -0400
                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:13 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:10 -0400
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 23:46 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 01:45 -0700
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:23 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-28 17:09 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:18 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:29 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 20:15 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 00:30 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 21:28 -0400
                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:21 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:15 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-29 16:37 -0400
                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 20:44 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-29 17:58 -0400
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 00:07 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:26 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:17 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:25 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 12:53 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:46 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 17:32 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-27 22:33 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 01:33 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-03-27 22:16 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 05:10 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-03-27 21:03 -0700
          Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 05:11 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 06:12 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-03-28 10:32 -0700
              Re: Newsreaders DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2015-03-28 12:53 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:18 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:16 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:27 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 12:56 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:49 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 17:33 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 18:25 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 02:00 -0700
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:30 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:32 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 20:43 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 03:16 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:22 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-29 14:40 -0700
                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 03:23 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 00:02 -0400
                            Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-29 21:38 -0700
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 07:43 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-30 08:30 -0700
                                  Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 11:36 -0400
                                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:18 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 16:34 -0400
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:20 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-01 20:46 +1300
                                          Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 09:37 -0700
                                        Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-01 04:22 -0400
                                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 21:22 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-31 13:53 +1300
                                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 01:02 +0000
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:23 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-30 21:49 -0400
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:24 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 09:39 -0700
                                          Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-04-20 20:46 +0200
                                            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-20 14:52 -0400
                                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 18:53 +0000
                                              Re: Newsreaders dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-21 10:45 +1200
                                                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 02:08 +0000
                                                  Re: Newsreaders dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-21 15:07 +1200
                                                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 04:22 +0000
                                                  Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-21 11:58 -0500
                                                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-21 13:05 -0400
                                                      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-21 23:49 +0000
                                                        Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-21 20:53 -0400
                                                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-22 03:30 +0000
                                                      Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-04-22 12:03 +0200
                                                      Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-22 17:32 -0500
                                                        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 18:08 +1200
                                            Re: Newsreaders Gordon Sande <Gordon.Sande@gmail.com> - 2015-04-20 17:05 -0300
                                            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-21 05:41 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:13 -0500
                                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:32 +0000
                                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:20 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:38 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:08 -0500
                            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 10:01 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:24 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-30 14:54 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:27 +0000
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                              Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-03-30 19:46 -0700
                                Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-31 14:55 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:30 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:43 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:36 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-29 23:36 -0500
                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 07:39 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:35 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:14 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:35 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 22:59 -0500
                                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:18 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-01 04:22 -0400
                                      Re: Newsreaders TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-04-01 08:11 -0500
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 23:59 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-02 02:14 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-01 09:05 -0500
                                      Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-01 16:51 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 17:51 +0000
                                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-02 00:03 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-01 17:06 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 22:56 -0500
                          Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-30 15:17 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 11:22 -0400
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:38 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:27 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:39 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:26 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 21:17 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:04 -0500
                                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:27 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-31 14:28 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 12:41 -0400
                                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:28 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-01 23:47 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:33 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 01:49 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2015-03-28 09:03 -0700
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#1843

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2013-10-30 10:24 +1300
Message-ID<1lbju8q.10oe68e1us23f5N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#1830
Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <slrnl6uonh.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
> > ?rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> Don't know what they are up to, but they might use hex as well: 
> >> MacOS 10.6
> >> MacOS 10.9
> >> MacOS 10.A
> >> MacOS 10.F
> > 
> > nothing like confusing everyone but geeks, and what do you do after
> > 10.f?
> Matbe G?

That wouldn't be hex.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#1873

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
Message-ID<l4r5mt$7m0$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1843
Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> 
>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <slrnl6uonh.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
>>> ?rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Don't know what they are up to, but they might use hex as well: 
>>>> MacOS 10.6
>>>> MacOS 10.9
>>>> MacOS 10.A
>>>> MacOS 10.F
>>> 
>>> nothing like confusing everyone but geeks, and what do you do after
>>> 10.f?
>> Matbe G?
> 
> That wouldn't be hex.

I see I came up with an interesting new word. I wonder what it might be
used for? 8-)

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#1838

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2013-10-30 09:26 +1300
Message-ID<301020130926284065%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#1814
In article <slrnl6uonh.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
‘§rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:25:09 +1300, Your Name wrote:
> >  Sorry, I didn't mean it would sort any better (which is why it's a
> >  separate paragraph), just that there's a superfluous extra "10" in
> >  there all the time - despite it meant ot be pronounced as "Ex".
> 
> Ah, so you may call it MacOSX for the whole family, but should use
> MacOS 10.6, MacOS 10.7, MacOS 10.10,
> but not MacOSX 6, MacOSX 10, ...

The whole family would simply be Mac OS 10, since the different
versions have the suffix numbers (10.1, 10.4, etc.).




> >  Apple is planning NOT to have "Mac OS X 10.10" and instead move to "Mac
> >  OS Y 1.0" or "Mac OS XI 1.0".   ;-)
> 
> Don't know what they are up to, but they might use hex as well: 
> MacOS 10.6
> MacOS 10.9
> MacOS 10.A
> MacOS 10.F

That only gives them a few more years though. Maybe they should just
continue the alphabet up to Mac OS 10.Z to give themselves more time to
come up with Mac OS 11.  ;-)

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#1846

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-10-29 21:35 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl70agp.16qu.g.kreme@jaka.local>
In reply to#1809
In message <291020131825107266%YourName@YourISP.com> 
  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnl6ugfn.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
> ‘§rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:
>> >  In message <291020131329139978%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>> >    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
>> > > easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
>> > > rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
>> > > silly codenames fit.
>> > 
>> >  The codenames are the names most people know. They are much easier for
>> >  people to keep track of than a number.
>> 
>> I can't. Maybe I'm more the numbers guy, remembering that I jumped from
>> 6.0.8 via 7.0.1 til 7.6.1 to 10.3, upgrading until 10.6.8 and now maybe
>> waiting for 10.9.1 to jump in again. 
>> 
>> Tell me, which one was Capone?

> Exactly. Most normal people use numbers to indicate a series, not
> random silly names.

First, if you ask regular people what OS version they have they are FAR
more likely to tell you the name than the number. If you press for the
number, chances are very good they have no idea. Second, this is even
true for some abnormal people.

> Of course, the problem with Apple's 10.Y numbering system is what is
> going to come next? 10.10?

Yes, 10.10 is already in testing internally.

> It would work for humans, but it's going to screw up many computer
> sorting systems.

Not unless those systems were programmed by gibbering morons.

-- 
you cannot code around infinite implementations of OCD -John C Welch

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#1851

Frombill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca>
Date2013-10-29 16:28 -0700
Message-ID<billvan-57FF32.16285329102013@news.shawcable.net>
In reply to#1846
In article <slrnl70agp.16qu.g.kreme@jaka.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <291020131825107266%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnl6ugfn.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
> >rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:
> >> >  In message <291020131329139978%YourName@YourISP.com> 
> >> >    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >> > > 
> >> > > They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
> >> > > easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
> >> > > rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
> >> > > silly codenames fit.
> >> > 
> >> >  The codenames are the names most people know. They are much easier for
> >> >  people to keep track of than a number.
> >> 
> >> I can't. Maybe I'm more the numbers guy, remembering that I jumped from
> >> 6.0.8 via 7.0.1 til 7.6.1 to 10.3, upgrading until 10.6.8 and now maybe
> >> waiting for 10.9.1 to jump in again. 
> >> 
> >> Tell me, which one was Capone?
> 
> > Exactly. Most normal people use numbers to indicate a series, not
> > random silly names.
> 
> First, if you ask regular people what OS version they have they are FAR
> more likely to tell you the name than the number. If you press for the
> number, chances are very good they have no idea. Second, this is even
> true for some abnormal people.

I must be abnormally abnormal. Within a few months of installing each 
big cat OS I've forgotten which cat it was. But 10.6.8, which I've been 
running for a couple of years, is top of mind and tip of tongue for me; 
I don't have to think about it.

My wife, whose iMac runs the same OS, remembered Snow Leopard and 10.6, 
but not the .8 part. 

I have a feeling that it's a very individual thing and that we tend to 
assume that the way we remember it ourselves is the normal way.

bill

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#1852

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2013-10-30 13:33 +1300
Message-ID<1lbk2pn.1qawsvr1aflc0vN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#1851
bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:

> In article <slrnl70agp.16qu.g.kreme@jaka.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > In message <291020131825107266%YourName@YourISP.com> 
> >   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > > In article <slrnl6ugfn.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
> > >rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:
> > >> >  In message <291020131329139978%YourName@YourISP.com> 
> > >> >    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
> > >> > > easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
> > >> > > rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
> > >> > > silly codenames fit.
> > >> > 
> > >> >  The codenames are the names most people know. They are much easier for
> > >> >  people to keep track of than a number.
> > >> 
> > >> I can't. Maybe I'm more the numbers guy, remembering that I jumped from
> > >> 6.0.8 via 7.0.1 til 7.6.1 to 10.3, upgrading until 10.6.8 and now maybe
> > >> waiting for 10.9.1 to jump in again. 
> > >> 
> > >> Tell me, which one was Capone?
> > 
> > > Exactly. Most normal people use numbers to indicate a series, not
> > > random silly names.
> > 
> > First, if you ask regular people what OS version they have they are FAR
> > more likely to tell you the name than the number. If you press for the
> > number, chances are very good they have no idea. Second, this is even
> > true for some abnormal people.
> 
> I must be abnormally abnormal. Within a few months of installing each
> big cat OS I've forgotten which cat it was. But 10.6.8, which I've been
> running for a couple of years, is top of mind and tip of tongue for me;
> I don't have to think about it.
> 
> My wife, whose iMac runs the same OS, remembered Snow Leopard and 10.6,
> but not the .8 part. 
> 
> I have a feeling that it's a very individual thing and that we tend to
> assume that the way we remember it ourselves is the normal way.
> 
> bill

I know I usually think of the version number first, then try to remember
the big cat name if that doesn't register for the person I'm talking to.
Version numbers after all give useful information - the version, where
in the sequence it fell, etc. Big cat names tell you very nothing unless
you already remember all the rest. Big cat names or place names are
cute. But not useful for anything but marketing. Version numbers are
real useful information.

I've been in many a discussion where big cat names are used and there is
confusion as to where in the sequence each lies (most often with
non-geeks). No such trouble with version numbers. Version numbers are
logical, but unattractive marketing-wise.

That's my experience and personal take on the matter.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#1861

Frombill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca>
Date2013-10-29 23:14 -0700
Message-ID<billvan-62648C.23143529102013@news.shawcable.net>
In reply to#1852
In article <1lbk2pn.1qawsvr1aflc0vN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:

> > I must be abnormally abnormal. Within a few months of installing each
> > big cat OS I've forgotten which cat it was. But 10.6.8, which I've been
> > running for a couple of years, is top of mind and tip of tongue for me;
> > I don't have to think about it.
> > 
> > My wife, whose iMac runs the same OS, remembered Snow Leopard and 10.6,
> > but not the .8 part. 
> > 
> > I have a feeling that it's a very individual thing and that we tend to
> > assume that the way we remember it ourselves is the normal way.
> 
> I know I usually think of the version number first, then try to remember
> the big cat name if that doesn't register for the person I'm talking to.
> Version numbers after all give useful information - the version, where
> in the sequence it fell, etc. Big cat names tell you very nothing unless
> you already remember all the rest. Big cat names or place names are
> cute. But not useful for anything but marketing. Version numbers are
> real useful information.
> 
> I've been in many a discussion where big cat names are used and there is
> confusion as to where in the sequence each lies (most often with
> non-geeks). No such trouble with version numbers. Version numbers are
> logical, but unattractive marketing-wise.
> 
> That's my experience and personal take on the matter.

That seems sensible to me. The number, e.g. 10.6.8, puts the OS version 
in the context of preceding and succeeding versions. There is no such 
logic or connection with the names. 

Mavericks as an OS version name is kind of a shrug for me. It means 
something to California and to surfing communities, I guess, but it has 
no context for anyone else. It looks a bit dead-endish from here. I'll 
stick with the numbers.

bill

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#1865

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2013-10-30 21:43 +1300
Message-ID<1lbkpjs.pwu1z71e3evbrN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#1861
bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:

> In article <1lbk2pn.1qawsvr1aflc0vN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> 
> > bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> > > I must be abnormally abnormal. Within a few months of installing each
> > > big cat OS I've forgotten which cat it was. But 10.6.8, which I've been
> > > running for a couple of years, is top of mind and tip of tongue for me;
> > > I don't have to think about it.
> > > 
> > > My wife, whose iMac runs the same OS, remembered Snow Leopard and 10.6,
> > > but not the .8 part. 
> > > 
> > > I have a feeling that it's a very individual thing and that we tend to
> > > assume that the way we remember it ourselves is the normal way.
> > 
> > I know I usually think of the version number first, then try to remember
> > the big cat name if that doesn't register for the person I'm talking to.
> > Version numbers after all give useful information - the version, where
> > in the sequence it fell, etc. Big cat names tell you very nothing unless
> > you already remember all the rest. Big cat names or place names are
> > cute. But not useful for anything but marketing. Version numbers are
> > real useful information.
> > 
> > I've been in many a discussion where big cat names are used and there is
> > confusion as to where in the sequence each lies (most often with
> > non-geeks). No such trouble with version numbers. Version numbers are
> > logical, but unattractive marketing-wise.
> > 
> > That's my experience and personal take on the matter.
> 
> That seems sensible to me. The number, e.g. 10.6.8, puts the OS version
> in the context of preceding and succeeding versions. There is no such
> logic or connection with the names. 
> 
> Mavericks as an OS version name is kind of a shrug for me. It means 
> something to California and to surfing communities, I guess, but it has
> no context for anyone else. It looks a bit dead-endish from here. I'll
> stick with the numbers.
> 
> bill

I guess Leopard and Snow Leopard gave a clue, but other than that - nup.
Even I sometimes forgot and still forget 10.4 is Tiger and 10.3 was
Panther. Don't even bother quizzing me on the big cat names before the
code names because official marketing names, heh :-)
-- 
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#1866

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-10-30 12:39 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl71vgt.18sg.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#1852
In message <1lbk2pn.1qawsvr1aflc0vN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> 
  Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:

>> In article <slrnl70agp.16qu.g.kreme@jaka.local>,
>>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>> > In message <291020131825107266%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>> >   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> > > In article <slrnl6ugfn.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
>> > >rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>> > >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:
>> > >> >  In message <291020131329139978%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>> > >> >    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> > >> > > 
>> > >> > > They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
>> > >> > > easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
>> > >> > > rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
>> > >> > > silly codenames fit.
>> > >> > 
>> > >> >  The codenames are the names most people know. They are much easier for
>> > >> >  people to keep track of than a number.
>> > >> 
>> > >> I can't. Maybe I'm more the numbers guy, remembering that I jumped from
>> > >> 6.0.8 via 7.0.1 til 7.6.1 to 10.3, upgrading until 10.6.8 and now maybe
>> > >> waiting for 10.9.1 to jump in again. 
>> > >> 
>> > >> Tell me, which one was Capone?
>> > 
>> > > Exactly. Most normal people use numbers to indicate a series, not
>> > > random silly names.
>> > 
>> > First, if you ask regular people what OS version they have they are FAR
>> > more likely to tell you the name than the number. If you press for the
>> > number, chances are very good they have no idea. Second, this is even
>> > true for some abnormal people.
>> 
>> I must be abnormally abnormal. Within a few months of installing each
>> big cat OS I've forgotten which cat it was. But 10.6.8, which I've been
>> running for a couple of years, is top of mind and tip of tongue for me;
>> I don't have to think about it.
>> 
>> My wife, whose iMac runs the same OS, remembered Snow Leopard and 10.6,
>> but not the .8 part. 
>> 
>> I have a feeling that it's a very individual thing and that we tend to
>> assume that the way we remember it ourselves is the normal way.
>> 
>> bill

> I know I usually think of the version number first, then try to remember
> the big cat name if that doesn't register for the person I'm talking to.
> Version numbers after all give useful information - the version, where
> in the sequence it fell, etc. Big cat names tell you very nothing unless
> you already remember all the rest. Big cat names or place names are
> cute. But not useful for anything but marketing. Version numbers are
> real useful information.

> I've been in many a discussion where big cat names are used and there is
> confusion as to where in the sequence each lies (most often with
> non-geeks).

Right. Just like I said, normal people remember the NAME, not the
number.


-- 
The fact is that camels are far more intelligent than dolphins.
Footnote: Never trust a species that grins all the time. It's up to
something. --Pyramids

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#1871

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
Message-ID<l4r5mr$7m0$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1866
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <1lbk2pn.1qawsvr1aflc0vN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> 
>   Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
>> bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>>> In article <slrnl70agp.16qu.g.kreme@jaka.local>,
>>>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In message <291020131825107266%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>>>>   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <slrnl6ugfn.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
>>>>> rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:
>>>>>>>  In message <291020131329139978%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>>>>>>>    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
>>>>>>>> easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
>>>>>>>> rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
>>>>>>>> silly codenames fit.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  The codenames are the names most people know. They are much easier for
>>>>>>>  people to keep track of than a number.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can't. Maybe I'm more the numbers guy, remembering that I jumped from
>>>>>> 6.0.8 via 7.0.1 til 7.6.1 to 10.3, upgrading until 10.6.8 and now maybe
>>>>>> waiting for 10.9.1 to jump in again. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tell me, which one was Capone?
>>>> 
>>>>> Exactly. Most normal people use numbers to indicate a series, not
>>>>> random silly names.
>>>> 
>>>> First, if you ask regular people what OS version they have they are FAR
>>>> more likely to tell you the name than the number. If you press for the
>>>> number, chances are very good they have no idea. Second, this is even
>>>> true for some abnormal people.
>>> 
>>> I must be abnormally abnormal. Within a few months of installing each
>>> big cat OS I've forgotten which cat it was. But 10.6.8, which I've been
>>> running for a couple of years, is top of mind and tip of tongue for me;
>>> I don't have to think about it.
>>> 
>>> My wife, whose iMac runs the same OS, remembered Snow Leopard and 10.6,
>>> but not the .8 part. 
>>> 
>>> I have a feeling that it's a very individual thing and that we tend to
>>> assume that the way we remember it ourselves is the normal way.
>>> 
>>> bill
> 
>> I know I usually think of the version number first, then try to remember
>> the big cat name if that doesn't register for the person I'm talking to.
>> Version numbers after all give useful information - the version, where
>> in the sequence it fell, etc. Big cat names tell you very nothing unless
>> you already remember all the rest. Big cat names or place names are
>> cute. But not useful for anything but marketing. Version numbers are
>> real useful information.
> 
>> I've been in many a discussion where big cat names are used and there is
>> confusion as to where in the sequence each lies (most often with
>> non-geeks).
> 
> Right. Just like I said, normal people remember the NAME, not the
> number.
> 

Oh, goody!  More proof I'm not normal!  It's so boring.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#1890

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2013-10-31 09:31 +1300
Message-ID<311020130931056318%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#1871
In article <l4r5mr$7m0$3@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > In message <1lbk2pn.1qawsvr1aflc0vN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> 
> >   Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> >> bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
> > 
> >>> In article <slrnl70agp.16qu.g.kreme@jaka.local>,
> >>>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> In message <291020131825107266%YourName@YourISP.com> 
> >>>>   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >>>>> In article <slrnl6ugfn.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
> >>>>> rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:
> >>>>>>>  In message <291020131329139978%YourName@YourISP.com> 
> >>>>>>>    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
> >>>>>>>> easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
> >>>>>>>> rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
> >>>>>>>> silly codenames fit.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>  The codenames are the names most people know. They are much easier
> >>>>>>>  for
> >>>>>>>  people to keep track of than a number.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I can't. Maybe I'm more the numbers guy, remembering that I jumped from
> >>>>>> 6.0.8 via 7.0.1 til 7.6.1 to 10.3, upgrading until 10.6.8 and now maybe
> >>>>>> waiting for 10.9.1 to jump in again. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Tell me, which one was Capone?
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Exactly. Most normal people use numbers to indicate a series, not
> >>>>> random silly names.
> >>>> 
> >>>> First, if you ask regular people what OS version they have they are FAR
> >>>> more likely to tell you the name than the number. If you press for the
> >>>> number, chances are very good they have no idea. Second, this is even
> >>>> true for some abnormal people.
> >>> 
> >>> I must be abnormally abnormal. Within a few months of installing each
> >>> big cat OS I've forgotten which cat it was. But 10.6.8, which I've been
> >>> running for a couple of years, is top of mind and tip of tongue for me;
> >>> I don't have to think about it.
> >>> 
> >>> My wife, whose iMac runs the same OS, remembered Snow Leopard and 10.6,
> >>> but not the .8 part. 
> >>> 
> >>> I have a feeling that it's a very individual thing and that we tend to
> >>> assume that the way we remember it ourselves is the normal way.
> >>> 
> >>> bill
> > 
> >> I know I usually think of the version number first, then try to remember
> >> the big cat name if that doesn't register for the person I'm talking to.
> >> Version numbers after all give useful information - the version, where
> >> in the sequence it fell, etc. Big cat names tell you very nothing unless
> >> you already remember all the rest. Big cat names or place names are
> >> cute. But not useful for anything but marketing. Version numbers are
> >> real useful information.
> > 
> >> I've been in many a discussion where big cat names are used and there is
> >> confusion as to where in the sequence each lies (most often with
> >> non-geeks).
> > 
> > Right. Just like I said, normal people remember the NAME, not the
> > number.
> > 
> 
> Oh, goody!  More proof I'm not normal!  It's so boring.

Nope, you're "normal" ... or at least as "normal" as the vast majority
of people living in the real world.   :-) 

Lewis is simply a moron living in fantasy geekworld - just ignore him.

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#1889

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2013-10-31 08:52 +1300
Message-ID<1lblkkq.1oz5z2l12omdbfN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#1866
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <1lbk2pn.1qawsvr1aflc0vN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> 
>   Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> > bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> >> In article <slrnl70agp.16qu.g.kreme@jaka.local>,
> >>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > In message <291020131825107266%YourName@YourISP.com> 
> >> >   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >> > > In article <slrnl6ugfn.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
> >> > >rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> >> > >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:
> >> > >> >  In message <291020131329139978%YourName@YourISP.com> 
> >> > >> >    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > > 
> >> > >> > > They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's
> >> > >> > > much easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS
> >> > >> > > X 10.6", rather than trying to figure out where in the
> >> > >> > > timeline the different silly codenames fit.
> >> > >> > 
> >> > >> >  The codenames are the names most people know. They are much
> >> > >> >  easier for people to keep track of than a number.
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> I can't. Maybe I'm more the numbers guy, remembering that I jumped
> >> > >> from 6.0.8 via 7.0.1 til 7.6.1 to 10.3, upgrading until 10.6.8 and
> >> > >> now maybe waiting for 10.9.1 to jump in again.
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> Tell me, which one was Capone?
> >> > 
> >> > > Exactly. Most normal people use numbers to indicate a series, not
> >> > > random silly names.
> >> > 
> >> > First, if you ask regular people what OS version they have they are FAR
> >> > more likely to tell you the name than the number. If you press for the
> >> > number, chances are very good they have no idea. Second, this is even
> >> > true for some abnormal people.
> >> 
> >> I must be abnormally abnormal. Within a few months of installing each
> >> big cat OS I've forgotten which cat it was. But 10.6.8, which I've been
> >> running for a couple of years, is top of mind and tip of tongue for me;
> >> I don't have to think about it.
> >> 
> >> My wife, whose iMac runs the same OS, remembered Snow Leopard and 10.6,
> >> but not the .8 part. 
> >> 
> >> I have a feeling that it's a very individual thing and that we tend to
> >> assume that the way we remember it ourselves is the normal way.
> >> 
> >> bill
> 
> > I know I usually think of the version number first, then try to remember
> > the big cat name if that doesn't register for the person I'm talking to.
> > Version numbers after all give useful information - the version, where
> > in the sequence it fell, etc. Big cat names tell you very nothing unless
> > you already remember all the rest. Big cat names or place names are
> > cute. But not useful for anything but marketing. Version numbers are
> > real useful information.
> 
> > I've been in many a discussion where big cat names are used and there is
> > confusion as to where in the sequence each lies (most often with
> > non-geeks).
> 
> Right. Just like I said, normal people remember the NAME, not the
> number.

And suffer confusion as a result :-)
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#1862

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2013-10-30 19:36 +1300
Message-ID<301020131936128878%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#1851
In article <billvan-57FF32.16285329102013@news.shawcable.net>, bill van
<billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
> In article <slrnl70agp.16qu.g.kreme@jaka.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > In message <291020131825107266%YourName@YourISP.com> 
> >   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > > In article <slrnl6ugfn.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
> > >rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:
> > >> >  In message <291020131329139978%YourName@YourISP.com> 
> > >> >    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
> > >> > > easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
> > >> > > rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
> > >> > > silly codenames fit.
> > >> > 
> > >> >  The codenames are the names most people know. They are much easier for
> > >> >  people to keep track of than a number.
> > >> 
> > >> I can't. Maybe I'm more the numbers guy, remembering that I jumped from
> > >> 6.0.8 via 7.0.1 til 7.6.1 to 10.3, upgrading until 10.6.8 and now maybe
> > >> waiting for 10.9.1 to jump in again. 
> > >> 
> > >> Tell me, which one was Capone?
> > 
> > > Exactly. Most normal people use numbers to indicate a series, not
> > > random silly names.
> > 
> > First, if you ask regular people what OS version they have they are FAR
> > more likely to tell you the name than the number. If you press for the
> > number, chances are very good they have no idea. Second, this is even
> > true for some abnormal people.
> 
> I must be abnormally abnormal. Within a few months of installing each 
> big cat OS I've forgotten which cat it was. But 10.6.8, which I've been 
> running for a couple of years, is top of mind and tip of tongue for me; 
> I don't have to think about it.
> 
> My wife, whose iMac runs the same OS, remembered Snow Leopard and 10.6, 
> but not the .8 part. 
> 
> I have a feeling that it's a very individual thing and that we tend to 
> assume that the way we remember it ourselves is the normal way.

Don't worry. Lewis is a dimbulb geek who thinks absolutely everyone
else does what he and his five geeky friends do (which is why the
numbnut is in my killfile). :-\

The fact is that in the real world very few people know what the
codename of the Mac OS is, and most people don't even know (nor care)
what OS they're using at all ... some Mac users even think they're
using Windows.

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#1867

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-10-30 12:42 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl71vlk.18sg.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#1862
In message <301020131936128878%YourName@YourISP.com> 
  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <billvan-57FF32.16285329102013@news.shawcable.net>, bill van
> <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
>> In article <slrnl70agp.16qu.g.kreme@jaka.local>,
>>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> > In message <291020131825107266%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>> >   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> > > In article <slrnl6ugfn.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
>> > >rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>> > >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:
>> > >> >  In message <291020131329139978%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>> > >> >    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> > >> > > 
>> > >> > > They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
>> > >> > > easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
>> > >> > > rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
>> > >> > > silly codenames fit.
>> > >> > 
>> > >> >  The codenames are the names most people know. They are much easier for
>> > >> >  people to keep track of than a number.
>> > >> 
>> > >> I can't. Maybe I'm more the numbers guy, remembering that I jumped from
>> > >> 6.0.8 via 7.0.1 til 7.6.1 to 10.3, upgrading until 10.6.8 and now maybe
>> > >> waiting for 10.9.1 to jump in again. 
>> > >> 
>> > >> Tell me, which one was Capone?
>> > 
>> > > Exactly. Most normal people use numbers to indicate a series, not
>> > > random silly names.
>> > 
>> > First, if you ask regular people what OS version they have they are FAR
>> > more likely to tell you the name than the number. If you press for the
>> > number, chances are very good they have no idea. Second, this is even
>> > true for some abnormal people.
>> 
>> I must be abnormally abnormal. Within a few months of installing each 
>> big cat OS I've forgotten which cat it was. But 10.6.8, which I've been 
>> running for a couple of years, is top of mind and tip of tongue for me; 
>> I don't have to think about it.
>> 
>> My wife, whose iMac runs the same OS, remembered Snow Leopard and 10.6, 
>> but not the .8 part. 
>> 
>> I have a feeling that it's a very individual thing and that we tend to 
>> assume that the way we remember it ourselves is the normal way.

> Don't worry. Lewis is a dimbulb geek who thinks absolutely everyone
> else does what he and his five geeky friends do (which is why the
> numbnut is in my killfile). :-\

Yay!

But no, I was not describing what I do, or any geeks do. I was
describing what normal everyday non-geeks do. The sort of people who
call me up and say "when I try to send mail it doesn't work" and don't
mention their computer isn't even turned on.

Geeks, obviously, use version numbers.

-- 
I WILL NOT BARF UNLESS I'M SICK Bart chalkboard Ep. 8F15

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#1872

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
Message-ID<l4r5ms$7m0$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1851
bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
> In article <slrnl70agp.16qu.g.kreme@jaka.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
>> In message <291020131825107266%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>>   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> In article <slrnl6ugfn.37j.t-usenet@ID-685.user.individual.de>, Martin
>>> rautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:
>>>>>  In message <291020131329139978%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>>>>>    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
>>>>>> easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
>>>>>> rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
>>>>>> silly codenames fit.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  The codenames are the names most people know. They are much easier for
>>>>>  people to keep track of than a number.
>>>> 
>>>> I can't. Maybe I'm more the numbers guy, remembering that I jumped from
>>>> 6.0.8 via 7.0.1 til 7.6.1 to 10.3, upgrading until 10.6.8 and now maybe
>>>> waiting for 10.9.1 to jump in again. 
>>>> 
>>>> Tell me, which one was Capone?
>> 
>>> Exactly. Most normal people use numbers to indicate a series, not
>>> random silly names.
>> 
>> First, if you ask regular people what OS version they have they are FAR
>> more likely to tell you the name than the number. If you press for the
>> number, chances are very good they have no idea. Second, this is even
>> true for some abnormal people.
> 
> I must be abnormally abnormal. Within a few months of installing each 
> big cat OS I've forgotten which cat it was. But 10.6.8, which I've been 
> running for a couple of years, is top of mind and tip of tongue for me; 
> I don't have to think about it.
> 
> My wife, whose iMac runs the same OS, remembered Snow Leopard and 10.6, 
> but not the .8 part. 
> 
> I have a feeling that it's a very individual thing and that we tend to 
> assume that the way we remember it ourselves is the normal way.
> 
I think you're right.  I've never been sure which cat name I'm actually
using.


-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#1831

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
Message-ID<l4opl6$ltb$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1804
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <291020131329139978%YourName@YourISP.com> 
>   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
>> easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
>> rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
>> silly codenames fit.
> 
> The codenames are the names most people know. They are much easier for
> people to keep track of than a number.

I question "most".  I think it's just a marketing ploy.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#1832

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
Message-ID<l4opl8$ltb$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1803
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnl6tlnt.b0i.mr@irc.sandman.net>, Sandman
> <mr@sandman.net> wrote:
>> In article <2013102808574249220-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck
>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is Mavericks a new OS?
>>>> 
>>>> Yes.  It's OS X 10.9
>>>> 
>>>>> Did they run out of cats?
>>>> 
>>>> Apparently so, according to what they said at the WWDC in June.
>>> 
>>>  I guess they missed "Civet". ;-)
>> 
>> And Lynx or Ocelot :)
> 
> One of the big(ish) rumours at the beginning of the year was that Mac
> OS X 10.9 would be called Lynx.  :-)
> 
> Apple simply ran out of big cat names. Coming down from Lion (or
> Mountain Lion) to Lynx might have been considered to be sending the
> wrong "message" about it being less powerful or some such marketing /
> pshco-babble nonsense.
> 
> They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
> easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
> rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
> silly codenames fit.

That would be much more logical.  It took me a while to figure out why
people were talking about stray cattle here.
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#1839

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2013-10-30 09:29 +1300
Message-ID<301020130929546417%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#1832
In article <l4opl8$ltb$5@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnl6tlnt.b0i.mr@irc.sandman.net>, Sandman
> > <mr@sandman.net> wrote:
> >> In article <2013102808574249220-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck
> >> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Is Mavericks a new OS?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Yes.  It's OS X 10.9
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Did they run out of cats?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Apparently so, according to what they said at the WWDC in June.
> >>> 
> >>>  I guess they missed "Civet". ;-)
> >> 
> >> And Lynx or Ocelot :)
> > 
> > One of the big(ish) rumours at the beginning of the year was that Mac
> > OS X 10.9 would be called Lynx.  :-)
> > 
> > Apple simply ran out of big cat names. Coming down from Lion (or
> > Mountain Lion) to Lynx might have been considered to be sending the
> > wrong "message" about it being less powerful or some such marketing /
> > pshco-babble nonsense.
> > 
> > They should just get rid of the silly names completely. It's much
> > easier to know that "Mac OS X 10.9" is newer than "Mac OS X 10.6",
> > rather than trying to figure out where in the timeline the different
> > silly codenames fit.
> 
> That would be much more logical.  It took me a while to figure out why
> people were talking about stray cattle here.

At least we can be thankful that Apple is (so far) fairly consistent.
Unlike Windows where they can't decide whether to use numbers (3.1, 8),
years (95, 2000), or names (XP, Vista).  :-)

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#1891

From"D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com>
Date2013-10-30 16:44 -0400
Message-ID<dfmanno-89641F.16444530102013@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#1786
In article <2013102808574249220-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> said:
> > On 2013-10-28 15:16:28 +0000, Erilar said:
> > 
> >> Is Mavericks a new OS?
> > 
> > Yes.  It's OS X 10.9
> > 
> >> Did they run out of cats?
> > 
> > Apparently so, according to what they said at the WWDC in June.
> 
> I guess they missed "Civet". ;-)

Or "Cougar." Or "Ocelot."

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#1894

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-10-30 23:22 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl7354u.1oju.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#1891
In message <dfmanno-89641F.16444530102013@news.albasani.net> 
  D.F. Manno <dfmanno@mail.com> wrote:
> In article <2013102808574249220-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

>> Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> said:
>> > On 2013-10-28 15:16:28 +0000, Erilar said:
>> > 
>> >> Is Mavericks a new OS?
>> > 
>> > Yes.  It's OS X 10.9
>> > 
>> >> Did they run out of cats?
>> > 
>> > Apparently so, according to what they said at the WWDC in June.
>> 
>> I guess they missed "Civet". ;-)

> Or "Cougar."

0% chance they would ever use that one.

> Or "Ocelot."

Ocelot was always the name of the next unreleased version :)

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