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Newsreaders

Started byMichelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org>
First post2013-10-27 09:41 -0700
Last post2015-03-29 13:03 +1300
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  Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-27 09:41 -0700
    Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 11:56 -0500
      Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-16 15:20 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-27 13:01 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 12:36 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 14:41 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 19:58 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 15:05 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 20:42 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-10-28 10:23 +1100
          Thoth (not) breaking long URL (was: Newsreaders) "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-28 09:37 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-27 19:57 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-27 19:16 -0700
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:21 -0500
    Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-28 10:58 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-10-27 19:24 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-27 23:42 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-10-27 20:09 -0400
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 19:16 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-28 00:16 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:11 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-28 13:54 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 09:01 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 09:09 +1300
                  Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 20:44 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 01:26 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 21:04 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 02:11 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 22:01 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 03:40 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-28 17:26 +1300
                    Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:17 -0500
                  Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:16 -0500
                    Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-28 14:20 +0100
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 13:39 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:43 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-11-15 15:29 +0100
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-15 09:26 -0600
    Re: Newsreaders Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-27 20:30 -0500
      Re: Newsreaders AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-28 11:02 -0400
    Re: Newsreaders Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-28 00:48 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 15:16 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 15:16 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 15:21 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-28 08:31 -0700
        Re: Newsreaders Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-28 08:57 -0700
          Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-29 05:25 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 09:22 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 21:22 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 13:29 +1300
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 01:43 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 05:04 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 18:25 +1300
                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 01:33 -0400
                    Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 05:37 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 19:25 +1300
                        Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 07:25 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 04:07 -0400
                            Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 09:00 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 10:24 +1300
                                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 09:26 +1300
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 21:35 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2013-10-29 16:28 -0700
                        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 13:33 +1300
                          Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2013-10-29 23:14 -0700
                            Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 21:43 +1300
                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 12:39 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 09:31 +1300
                            Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-31 08:52 +1300
                        Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 19:36 +1300
                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 12:42 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 09:29 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-10-30 16:44 -0400
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 23:22 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 13:15 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-29 10:10 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-29 08:36 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 10:25 +1300
      Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 20:31 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-08 00:49 +0200
      Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-07 18:42 -0600
        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:05 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-08 16:12 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 15:21 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 20:01 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-08 18:09 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:48 -0600
              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 20:51 -0600
              Re: Newsreaders Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-02-28 12:19 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 01:40 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:50 -0600
        Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 19:26 +0200
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 17:31 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 23:22 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 23:44 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 02:01 +0100
            Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 10:00 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 13:27 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 09:51 -0500
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 18:55 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-11 23:28 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-09 19:40 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-10 04:34 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:04 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-08 03:33 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:50 +0100
        Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 16:19 +0200
      Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:53 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-27 04:07 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-03-27 14:45 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-27 14:18 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:50 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 13:03 +1300
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 00:30 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-27 14:27 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-27 13:10 -0700
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-27 20:14 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-28 01:26 -0700
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 14:30 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 01:41 -0700
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:22 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:43 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 06:29 -0400
              Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-28 14:47 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:36 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:27 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:22 -0400
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 23:47 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:26 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 14:51 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 14:00 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:30 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 17:08 -0400
                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:13 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:10 -0400
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 23:46 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 01:45 -0700
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:23 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-28 17:09 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:18 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:29 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 20:15 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 00:30 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 21:28 -0400
                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:21 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:15 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-29 16:37 -0400
                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 20:44 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-29 17:58 -0400
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 00:07 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:26 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:17 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:25 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 12:53 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:46 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 17:32 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-27 22:33 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 01:33 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-03-27 22:16 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 05:10 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-03-27 21:03 -0700
          Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 05:11 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 06:12 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-03-28 10:32 -0700
              Re: Newsreaders DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2015-03-28 12:53 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:18 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:16 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:27 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 12:56 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:49 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 17:33 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 18:25 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 02:00 -0700
                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:30 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:32 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 20:43 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 03:16 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:22 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-29 14:40 -0700
                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 03:23 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 00:02 -0400
                            Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-29 21:38 -0700
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 07:43 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-30 08:30 -0700
                                  Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 11:36 -0400
                                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:18 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 16:34 -0400
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:20 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-01 20:46 +1300
                                          Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 09:37 -0700
                                        Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-01 04:22 -0400
                                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 21:22 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-31 13:53 +1300
                                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 01:02 +0000
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:23 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-30 21:49 -0400
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:24 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 09:39 -0700
                                          Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-04-20 20:46 +0200
                                            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-20 14:52 -0400
                                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 18:53 +0000
                                              Re: Newsreaders dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-21 10:45 +1200
                                                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 02:08 +0000
                                                  Re: Newsreaders dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-21 15:07 +1200
                                                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 04:22 +0000
                                                  Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-21 11:58 -0500
                                                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-21 13:05 -0400
                                                      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-21 23:49 +0000
                                                        Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-21 20:53 -0400
                                                          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-22 03:30 +0000
                                                      Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-04-22 12:03 +0200
                                                      Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-22 17:32 -0500
                                                        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 18:08 +1200
                                            Re: Newsreaders Gordon Sande <Gordon.Sande@gmail.com> - 2015-04-20 17:05 -0300
                                            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-21 05:41 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:13 -0500
                                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:32 +0000
                                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:20 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:38 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:08 -0500
                            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 10:01 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:24 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-30 14:54 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:27 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-30 21:43 -0400
                            Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-30 21:45 -0400
                              Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-03-30 19:46 -0700
                                Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-31 14:55 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:30 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:43 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:36 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-29 23:36 -0500
                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 07:39 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:35 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:14 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:35 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 22:59 -0500
                                  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:18 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-01 04:22 -0400
                                      Re: Newsreaders TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-04-01 08:11 -0500
                                      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 23:59 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-02 02:14 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-01 09:05 -0500
                                      Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-01 16:51 +0000
                                        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 17:51 +0000
                                          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-02 00:03 +0000
                                    Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-01 17:06 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 22:56 -0500
                          Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-30 15:17 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 11:22 -0400
                            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:38 +0000
                            Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:27 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:39 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:26 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 21:17 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:04 -0500
                                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:27 +0000
                              Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-31 14:28 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 12:41 -0400
                                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:28 +0000
                                Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-01 23:47 +0000
                          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:33 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 01:49 -0400
      Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2015-03-28 09:03 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-28 09:17 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:52 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-28 16:00 -0700
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 23:06 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 03:00 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 23:51 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 12:48 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Buster Friendly <lah@de.da.ru.ru> - 2015-03-29 09:01 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2015-03-29 15:33 +0200
                    Re: Newsreaders Buster Friendly <lah@de.da.ru.ru> - 2015-03-29 09:40 -0400
                  Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 17:04 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-30 13:37 +1300
          Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 13:03 +1300
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:28 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-28 15:59 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 13:03 +1300

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#2688

FromHoward S Shubs <howard@shubs.net>
Date2015-04-01 07:26 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhn7cd.l7n.howard@foxtrot.local>
In reply to#2667
On 2015-03-30, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> slrn's scoring is quite sufficient.

It certainly hasn't had me digging for a filtering facility yet.

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#2668

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-03-30 21:17 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhjfde.eqo.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#2663
In message <slrnmhjccr.kg7.howard@foxtrot.local> 
  Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:
> On 2015-03-30, Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> wrote:
>> That’s one of the reasons Usenet itself has stagnated; it can no longer
>> take advantage of the economies of scale.  And I suspect that’s the same
>> minuscule market that exists for Open Transport itself.  MT-NW is the
>> only thing I recall losing when it went away.  Are people who won’t pay
>> $5 or $50 for a newsreader going to pay $5000 to keep the ancient
>> underpinnings working on a modern OS?

> There's no equivalent to MT-NW for any money we might want to pay,
> unless someone develops a replacement.  SLRN and Unison don't seem to be
> "it", at least to me so far.  I haven't learned more than the basics of
> slrn so far, so I could be missing a wonderful filtering facility. 

slrn has the *best* filtering of any news reader I've ever used. You can filter on anything you want.

<http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/score.txt>

Nothing else cames close.

-- 
http://b.kreme.com/

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#2678

FromTim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
Date2015-03-30 23:04 -0500
Message-ID<slrnmhk768.feb.timmcn@sugaree-2.local>
In reply to#2663
On 30 Mar 2015 20:27:06 GMT, Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:
> On 2015-03-30, Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> wrote:
>> That’s one of the reasons Usenet itself has stagnated; it can no 
>> longer take advantage of the economies of scale.  And I suspect 
>> that’s the same minuscule market that exists for Open Transport 
>> itself.  MT-NW is the only thing I recall losing when it went away.  
>> Are people who won’t pay $5 or $50 for a newsreader going to pay 
>> $5000 to keep the ancient underpinnings working on a modern OS?
>
> There's no equivalent to MT-NW for any money we might want to pay, 
> unless someone develops a replacement.  SLRN and Unison don't seem to 
> be "it", at least to me so far.  I haven't learned more than the 
> basics of slrn so far, so I could be missing a wonderful filtering 
> facility. Hopefully, I'll have time to notice it soon.

I switched to slrn; it does have excellent scoring features that control 
the spam and vermin quite well with a compact set of rules.  I still 
miss MT-NW as it was my favorite newsreader ever, but alas, I am an old 
duffer perilously close to going on and on about how it was in my day.  
Uphill both ways, in the snow, barefoot, yadda yadda yadda.  I may not 
be a fogey yet at 55 but I can see it from here (or maybe I am already- 
I don't have kids to automagically let me know).

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#2689

FromHoward S Shubs <howard@shubs.net>
Date2015-04-01 07:27 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhn7ff.l7n.howard@foxtrot.local>
In reply to#2678
On 2015-03-31, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> I switched to slrn; it does have excellent scoring features that control 
> the spam and vermin quite well with a compact set of rules.  I still 
> miss MT-NW as it was my favorite newsreader ever, but alas, I am an old 
> duffer perilously close to going on and on about how it was in my day.  
> Uphill both ways, in the snow, barefoot, yadda yadda yadda.  I may not 
> be a fogey yet at 55 but I can see it from here (or maybe I am already- 
> I don't have kids to automagically let me know).

I know what you mean, to some degree.  I'm only 50 now, meself.

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#2681

FromDoc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com>
Date2015-03-31 14:28 +0000
Message-ID<mfeau8$ji6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2663
For your reference, records indicate that 
Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:

> There's no equivalent to MT-NW for any money we might want to pay,

Rubbish.  Back a truck with $5M or so up to Simon’s house and you’d
likely find he’d be willing to find a way to get it working again.  The
onus is on you to actually pony up a significant amount of dough before
you make the age-old claim that money is not a factor.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#2683

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-03-31 12:41 -0400
Message-ID<551ace42$0$44418$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#2681
In article <mfeau8$ji6$1@dont-email.me>,
 Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> wrote:

> Rubbish.  Back a truck with $5M or so up to Simon’s house and you’d
> likely find he’d be willing to find a way to get it working again.  The
> onus is on you to actually pony up a significant amount of dough before
> you make the age-old claim that money is not a factor.

You've already discovered that not enough people care about Usenet any 
more to fund or even buy a client for it. There's a lot of good clients 
available -- that's what's available, that's what y'all are gonna have 
to use unless you want to find a way of getting Open Transport into the 
newer OS Xen.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#2690

FromHoward S Shubs <howard@shubs.net>
Date2015-04-01 07:28 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhn7h6.l7n.howard@foxtrot.local>
In reply to#2681
On 2015-03-31, Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> wrote:
> Rubbish.  Back a truck with $5M or so up to Simon’s house and you’d
> likely find he’d be willing to find a way to get it working again.  The
> onus is on you to actually pony up a significant amount of dough before
> you make the age-old claim that money is not a factor.

Okay, I can't argue that.  If I had that kind of money, I might develop
one myself. :->

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#2703

Fromtmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com>
Date2015-04-01 23:47 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmhp0uk.258c.tmo1138@DavidJr-MacPro.tmo1138.local>
In reply to#2681
On 2015-03-31, Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:
>
>> There's no equivalent to MT-NW for any money we might want to pay,
>
> Rubbish.  Back a truck with $5M or so up to Simon’s house and you’d
> likely find he’d be willing to find a way to get it working again.  The
> onus is on you to actually pony up a significant amount of dough before
> you make the age-old claim that money is not a factor.
>

Exactly

-- 
"Yeah, but you're taking the universe out of context."

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#2654

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-03-30 15:33 +0000
Message-ID<cnt8mqFbj9lU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2640
On 2015-03-30, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
> You seem to be confusing Apple and third party developers.  It was not 
> up to Apple to keep MT-NW going, it was up to Simon.  He opted not to, 
> probably for very good reasons (e.g., the code probably needs a complete 
> rewrite to bring it into this century.  You'd probably be better 
> starting from scratch).

Yes. And he stated as much, IIRC.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#2556

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2015-03-28 01:49 -0400
Message-ID<mf5fbm$vcj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2551
On 2015-03-28 01:33:01 +0000, tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> said:

> On 2015-03-27, Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:
>> Any updates for this thread?  I'm... trying to come back to USENET, but
>> if I can't find a decent newsreader, I'll give up.  I'm using the
>> Unison trial for now, and individual.net, but those will both expire in
>> a few days.  Whether I re-up is up in the air.
>> 
> 
> I see a few options..
> 
> Unison (if you can get it to work in Yosemite - it won't work for me; screen
> refresh problems).
> Thunderbird (hey it's better than nothing)
> slrn (what I've opted to use because it's the most straightfoward vs the power
> it provides)
> xpn (if you install the right bottles in homebrew you can get this working from
> the source)
> MacSOUP
> 
> The other ones out there either have stopped working (MT-Newswatcher) the
> authors are gone (thoth) or are crap (Hogwasher, Maxnews).
> 
> IMHO, YMMV, IANAL, etc

I'm stuck with Unison, as well... but I prefer the older 1.8.1 version, 
as I can vary the font size of the message listing.

They took that feature out of the 2.whatever that is the latest version.
-- 
Q: How do you know when <NoBody@nowhere.com> is lying?  A: Ubiquitous 
<weberm@polaris.net> fingers are moving.
<NoBody@nowhere.com> reveals himself to be a sockpuppet of sickpuppy 
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3Cm3jcte%24pq1%241%40dont-email.me%3E

http://fc00.deviantart.net/images3/i/2004/181/4/a/The_Lurking_Sock_Puppet.jpg 

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#2582

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
Message-ID<1m21mq1.42p8so1rt71hjN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#2541
Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:

> Any updates for this thread?  I'm... trying to come back to USENET, but
> if I can't find a decent newsreader, I'll give up.  I'm using the 
> Unison trial for now, and individual.net, but those will both expire in
> a few days.  Whether I re-up is up in the air.

Still very happy with MacSOUP, here.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#2563

FromDaveC <not@home.cow>
Date2015-03-28 09:03 -0700
Message-ID<0001HW.1AC70861009A7B841090593CF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#1723
> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on Mavericks?
> Thoth, Unison, Hogwasher, something else?
> 
> I'm trying Unison, and I'm not all that happy with it, but I guess that
> I could learn to live with it. I've downloaded Thoth, but haven't
> tried it yet; is it worth giving it a try?
> 
> -- Michelle

Asar’s Hogwasher 5.0 is in beta test.

Dave

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#2584

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
Message-ID<1m21n37.53lxko19izgdqN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#2563
DaveC <not@home.cow> wrote:

> > So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on Mavericks?
> > Thoth, Unison, Hogwasher, something else?
> > 
> > I'm trying Unison, and I'm not all that happy with it, but I guess that
> > I could learn to live with it. I've downloaded Thoth, but haven't
> > tried it yet; is it worth giving it a try?
> > 
> > -- Michelle
> 
> Asar's Hogwasher 5.0 is in beta test.
> 
> Dave

Hogwasher - ha! I tried it back in 1999 and it was buggy under MacOS
8.5, with promises of updates to come. Has that ever NOT been the case
in the past decade and a half?

-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#2564

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2015-03-28 09:17 -0700
Message-ID<2015032809170568959-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#1723
On 2013-10-27 16:41:25 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:

> I'm trying Unison, and I'm not all that happy with it, but I guess that 
> I could learn to live with it...

There you go: Learning to live with an available newsgroup reader is 
the definition of the quest.

>   I've downloaded Thoth, but haven't tried it yet; is it worth giving it a try?

No, because you can't buy a serial/key for it.  It has a fair amount of 
value, but somebody out there doesn't want you to have it so sooner or 
later you'll be screwed.

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#2570

Fromsctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
Date2015-03-28 20:52 +0000
Message-ID<mf749l$4eg$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2564
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 09:17:05 -0700, gtr wrote:

> On 2013-10-27 16:41:25 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:
> 
>> I'm trying Unison, and I'm not all that happy with it, but I guess that
>> I could learn to live with it...
> 
> There you go: Learning to live with an available newsgroup reader is the
> definition of the quest.
> 
>>   I've downloaded Thoth, but haven't tried it yet; is it worth giving
>>   it a try?
> 
> No, because you can't buy a serial/key for it.  It has a fair amount of
> value, but somebody out there doesn't want you to have it so sooner or
> later you'll be screwed.

I got a copy of Thoth, I think 1.8, and the author sent me the key since 
I bought it.  I have heard of other updates, but is the author off the 
grid or something?

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#2587

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-03-28 16:00 -0700
Message-ID<280320151600033196%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#2570
In article <mf749l$4eg$9@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
<sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> I got a copy of Thoth, I think 1.8, and the author sent me the key since 
> I bought it.  I have heard of other updates, but is the author off the 
> grid or something?

Yes, he went away in a huff; I think it's the third time he's done that.

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#2588

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-03-28 23:06 +0000
Message-ID<cnoqf5F7st2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2587
On 2015-03-28, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <mf749l$4eg$9@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
><sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> I got a copy of Thoth, I think 1.8, and the author sent me the key since 
>> I bought it.  I have heard of other updates, but is the author off the 
>> grid or something?
>
> Yes, he went away in a huff; I think it's the third time he's done that.

The guy is a jerk.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#2604

Fromsctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
Date2015-03-29 03:00 +0000
Message-ID<mf7prr$up5$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2588
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 23:06:13 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

> On 2015-03-28, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> In article <mf749l$4eg$9@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
>><sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I got a copy of Thoth, I think 1.8, and the author sent me the key
>>> since I bought it.  I have heard of other updates, but is the author
>>> off the grid or something?
>>
>> Yes, he went away in a huff; I think it's the third time he's done
>> that.
> 
> The guy is a jerk.

What happened to Brian Clarke, is it?  When I bought the app, I think it 
was $25, I sent him the money with a nice note, I didn't know at the time 
he had a "reputation".  Since then, I heard that he only would sell you 
the upgrades/keys if he felt good at the time!
Coming from the world of OS/2, which I was also using at the time, I did 
not understand pique by software writers(since most OS/2 software was 
written by IBM employees!).

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#2608

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2015-03-29 23:51 +1300
Message-ID<1m22k56.b566tvqjxamN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#2604
sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 23:06:13 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
> > On 2015-03-28, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> >> In article <mf749l$4eg$9@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
> >><sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I got a copy of Thoth, I think 1.8, and the author sent me the key
> >>> since I bought it.  I have heard of other updates, but is the author
> >>> off the grid or something?
> >>
> >> Yes, he went away in a huff; I think it's the third time he's done
> >> that.
> > 
> > The guy is a jerk.
> 
> What happened to Brian Clarke, is it?  When I bought the app, I think it
> was $25, I sent him the money with a nice note, I didn't know at the time
> he had a "reputation".  Since then, I heard that he only would sell you
> the upgrades/keys if he felt good at the time!
> Coming from the world of OS/2, which I was also using at the time, I did
> not understand pique by software writers(since most OS/2 software was
> written by IBM employees!).

Basically he had public tantrums over Thoth not selling well enough,
being pirated, and accusations he stole open source code from
NewsWatcher (used with permission in his free Yet Another NewsWatcher
<http://www.macorchard.com/classic/usenet/YetAnotherNewsWatcher.php>
client - Thoth's predecessor) to use in Thoth.

Rather than take a sensible approach to Thoth not selling well, such as
simply not continuing development, or scaling back his support (as
MacSOUP's author did), in order to meet the reality of the now tiny Mac
Usenet client market; Brian threw several wobblies and on multiple
occasions has revoked sales and thus codes to enable Thoth to run past
it's trial period.

If his fantasy of whatever number of sales would be required to feed his
ego doesn't materialise, then dammit - he won't sell Thoth to _anyone_
LOL.

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#2609

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-03-29 12:48 +0000
Message-ID<cnqalnFj2crU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2608
On 2015-03-29, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> What happened to Brian Clarke, is it?  When I bought the app, I think it
>> was $25, I sent him the money with a nice note, I didn't know at the time
>> he had a "reputation".  Since then, I heard that he only would sell you
>> the upgrades/keys if he felt good at the time!
>> Coming from the world of OS/2, which I was also using at the time, I did
>> not understand pique by software writers(since most OS/2 software was
>> written by IBM employees!).
>
> Basically he had public tantrums over Thoth not selling well enough,
> being pirated, and accusations he stole open source code from
> NewsWatcher (used with permission in his free Yet Another NewsWatcher
><http://www.macorchard.com/classic/usenet/YetAnotherNewsWatcher.php>
> client - Thoth's predecessor) to use in Thoth.
>
> Rather than take a sensible approach to Thoth not selling well, such as
> simply not continuing development, or scaling back his support (as
> MacSOUP's author did), in order to meet the reality of the now tiny Mac
> Usenet client market; Brian threw several wobblies and on multiple
> occasions has revoked sales and thus codes to enable Thoth to run past
> it's trial period.
>
> If his fantasy of whatever number of sales would be required to feed his
> ego doesn't materialise, then dammit - he won't sell Thoth to _anyone_
> LOL.

That pretty much sums it up.

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