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Re: Newsreaders

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From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject Re: Newsreaders
Date 30 Mar 2015 15:27:17 GMT
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On 2015-03-30, Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:
> On 2015-03-29, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> How far back should backwards compatibility go?  Should Apple still be
>> supporting MacTCP, which was replaced by Open Transport in 1995?
>
> They should make sure the API keeps working, yes.  Reroute the calls 
> to the new code, but keep supporting the old stuff.  That might get 
> them the proper attitude: to design it better so they don't have to 
> toss out old interfaces just to provide "spiffy" new ones no one really 
> cares about.

The suggestion that nobody cares about the problems inherent in Open
Transport, or that what has replaced it is so much better is false.

> The thing is simple.  The most important thing is application software,
> not the OS.  People don't buy a computer to run an OS.  They buy it for
> applications it can run.  Once they've got their preferred set of
> applications, they stop changing it.

Perhaps some people do that, but most of the people *I* know buy a
computer to get shit done, and if better more efficient tools and
operating system technologies come along that improve things for them,
they are happy to use them. Such is the case with Open Transport.

> When their computer dies, they 
> want to run the old software on the new computer.  They don't give a
> shit about "spiffy", they care about "practical".

Thankfully, you don't speak for th entire human race. I doubt you even
speak for most people.

> Apple, and Microsoft to a lesser degree, don't care about that.  They
> care about "spiffy" and about keeping up with the Jonses, which is
> mostly each other.

Apple cares about delivering the best customer experience possible for
the majority of Apple customers. They deliver that in spades.

> I would like to run Word 5.0a, from 1991.  With DEC, that wouldn't be TOO
> much of a problem.  With Apple and Microsoft, it's impossible.  I want
> to run MT-NW, which in my view, was the perfect newsreader.  Can't do it.
> I want to run drivers with the hardware they came with.  Nope.
>
> This is why Linux, or something else, will take over from both these
> companies.  Can't happen too soon, IMHO.

Dream on! Don't hold your breath.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-27 09:41 -0700
  Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 11:56 -0500
    Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-16 15:20 +0000
  Re: Newsreaders Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-27 13:01 -0400
    Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 12:36 -0500
      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 14:41 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 19:58 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 15:05 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 20:42 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-10-28 10:23 +1100
        Thoth (not) breaking long URL (was: Newsreaders) "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-28 09:37 +0100
  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-27 19:57 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-27 19:16 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:21 -0500
  Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-28 10:58 +1300
  Re: Newsreaders M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-10-27 19:24 -0400
    Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-27 23:42 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-10-27 20:09 -0400
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 19:16 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-28 00:16 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:11 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-28 13:54 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 09:01 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 09:09 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 20:44 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 01:26 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 21:04 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 02:11 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 22:01 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 03:40 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-28 17:26 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:17 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:16 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-28 14:20 +0100
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 13:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:43 -0500
      Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-11-15 15:29 +0100
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-15 09:26 -0600
  Re: Newsreaders Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-27 20:30 -0500
    Re: Newsreaders AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-28 11:02 -0400
  Re: Newsreaders Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-28 00:48 -0400
    Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 15:16 +0000
  Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 15:16 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 15:21 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-28 08:31 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-28 08:57 -0700
        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-29 05:25 +1300
        Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 09:22 +1300
        Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 21:22 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 13:29 +1300
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 01:43 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 05:04 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 18:25 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 01:33 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 05:37 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 19:25 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 07:25 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 04:07 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 09:00 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 10:24 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 09:26 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 21:35 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2013-10-29 16:28 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 13:33 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2013-10-29 23:14 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 21:43 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 12:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 09:31 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-31 08:52 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 19:36 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 12:42 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 09:29 +1300
        Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-10-30 16:44 -0400
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 23:22 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 13:15 +1300
  Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-29 10:10 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-29 08:36 -0500
      Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 10:25 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 20:31 +0100
  Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-08 00:49 +0200
    Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-07 18:42 -0600
      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:05 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-08 16:12 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 15:21 -0600
          Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 20:01 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-08 18:09 -0700
              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:48 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 20:51 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-02-28 12:19 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 01:40 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:50 -0600
      Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 19:26 +0200
        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 17:31 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 23:22 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 23:44 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 02:01 +0100
          Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 10:00 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 13:27 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 09:51 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 18:55 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-11 23:28 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-09 19:40 -0600
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-10 04:34 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:04 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-08 03:33 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:50 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 16:19 +0200
    Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:53 +0100
  Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-27 04:07 -0700
    Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-03-27 14:45 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-27 14:18 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:50 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 13:03 +1300
            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 00:30 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-27 14:27 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-27 13:10 -0700
        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-27 20:14 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-28 01:26 -0700
            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 14:30 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 01:41 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:22 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:43 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 06:29 -0400
            Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-28 14:47 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:36 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:27 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:22 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 23:47 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:26 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 14:51 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 14:00 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:30 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 17:08 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:13 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:10 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 23:46 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 01:45 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:23 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-28 17:09 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:18 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:29 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 20:15 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 00:30 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-28 21:28 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:21 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:15 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-29 16:37 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 20:44 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2015-03-29 17:58 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 00:07 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:26 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:17 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:25 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 12:53 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:46 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 17:32 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-27 22:33 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 01:33 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-03-27 22:16 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 05:10 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-03-27 21:03 -0700
        Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-28 05:11 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 06:12 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-03-28 10:32 -0700
            Re: Newsreaders DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2015-03-28 12:53 -0700
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:18 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:16 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 01:27 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 12:56 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:49 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 17:33 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 18:25 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-29 02:00 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:30 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:32 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 20:43 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 03:16 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:22 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-29 14:40 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 03:23 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 00:02 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-29 21:38 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 07:43 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-30 08:30 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 11:36 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:18 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 16:34 -0400
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                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-01 20:46 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 09:37 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-01 04:22 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 21:22 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-31 13:53 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-31 01:02 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:23 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-30 21:49 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:24 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-01 09:39 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-04-20 20:46 +0200
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                Re: Newsreaders dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-21 15:07 +1200
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 04:22 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-21 11:58 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-21 13:05 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-21 23:49 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-21 20:53 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-22 03:30 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-04-22 12:03 +0200
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                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 18:08 +1200
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                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-21 05:41 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:13 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:32 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:20 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:38 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:08 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 10:01 +0000
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                Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-30 14:54 +0000
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                Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-03-30 21:45 -0400
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                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 16:43 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <hshubs@foxtrot.local> - 2015-03-29 19:36 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-29 23:36 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 07:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:35 +0000
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                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:35 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 22:59 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:18 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-01 04:22 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-04-01 08:11 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 23:59 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-02 02:14 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-04-01 09:05 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-01 16:51 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-01 17:51 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-02 00:03 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-01 17:06 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 22:56 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-30 15:17 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 11:22 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:38 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-03-30 20:27 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 20:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:26 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-30 21:17 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-03-30 23:04 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:27 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-03-31 14:28 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 12:41 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-01 07:28 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-01 23:47 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-30 15:33 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 01:49 -0400
    Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
  Re: Newsreaders DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2015-03-28 09:03 -0700
    Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 11:44 +1300
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      Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-28 16:00 -0700
        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 23:06 +0000
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            Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 23:51 +1300
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 12:48 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Buster Friendly <lah@de.da.ru.ru> - 2015-03-29 09:01 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2015-03-29 15:33 +0200
                Re: Newsreaders Buster Friendly <lah@de.da.ru.ru> - 2015-03-29 09:40 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 17:04 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-30 13:37 +1300
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    Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-29 13:03 +1300

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