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Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos?

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  Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-01 22:57 -0500
    Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-01 23:59 -0400
      Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-01 21:12 -0700
        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 00:25 -0400
        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-02 17:07 +1200
          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:24 -0700
            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 14:49 +1200
      Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-01 21:41 -0700
        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-02 17:01 +1200
        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 01:12 -0400
          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-01 23:19 -0700
        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-06-09 09:55 -0400
          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-09 17:13 -0400
            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-09 17:23 -0400
              Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-09 17:57 -0700
                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-09 21:06 -0400
                  Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-09 22:15 -0700
                    Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-10 18:33 +1200
                      Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-10 14:08 -0700
                        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-11 09:26 +1200
                          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-10 14:52 -0700
                            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-11 11:49 +1200
                            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-11 03:47 +0000
                        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-10 21:43 +0000
                          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-10 14:53 -0700
                            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-11 12:24 +1200
                              Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-10 17:48 -0700
                                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-11 13:20 +1200
                                  Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-10 18:26 -0700
                                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-11 13:36 +1200
                        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-10 18:12 -0400
                          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-11 12:03 +1200
                          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? rlhamil@smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) - 2018-06-13 19:43 +0000
                    Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-10 08:48 -0400
                      Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-17 17:14 +0000
                        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-17 15:04 -0400
                          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-17 22:22 +0000
                            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-17 18:36 -0400
                              Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-18 00:45 +0000
                                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-17 20:57 -0400
                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-10 13:49 +1200
            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-10 10:35 +1200
      Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-02 01:29 -0500
        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-02 00:02 -0700
          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-03 11:50 +1200
          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-06-05 10:54 +0200
            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 09:23 +1200
            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-05 20:06 -0700
              Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-06-07 02:53 +0200
        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 09:03 -0400
        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-02 11:40 -0500
          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 13:22 -0400
            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-02 18:43 -0500
              Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-06-03 02:11 -0700
                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-03 11:48 -0700
                  Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-06-03 12:58 -0700
                    Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-04 09:01 +1200
                      Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-06-03 14:37 -0700
                        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-04 12:51 +1200
                        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:13 +0000
                          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 18:39 -0700
                            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 21:44 -0400
                            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 15:21 +1200
                              Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-06-07 02:55 +0200
                                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 18:33 +1200
                                  Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-07 16:09 +0000
                                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-17 18:15 +0000
                            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 06:41 +0000
                              Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-06 10:10 -0700
                                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 09:14 +1200
                                  Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 17:20 -0400
                                    Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 14:44 +1200
                                      Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-06-07 04:29 +0000
                                        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-06 21:36 -0700
                                          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-06-07 05:01 +0000
                                            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-06 22:38 -0700
                                        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 18:27 +1200
                                          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-07 12:06 -0700
                                            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-08 09:30 +1200
                                              Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-07 16:44 -0700
                                                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-08 00:50 +0000
                                  Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-07 13:53 +1200
                                  Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-06 19:10 -0700
                                    Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-17 17:08 +0000
              Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:11 +0000
          Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-03 11:48 +1200
            Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-02 19:23 -0500
              Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-03 23:14 -0500
                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-04 17:12 +1200
                  Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-04 19:13 +1200
                  Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-04 02:43 -0500
                  Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-05 03:40 -0500
                Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-04 19:09 +1200
                  Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-04 02:44 -0500
                    Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 08:55 +1200
                      Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-05 02:44 -0500
                        Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 09:25 +1200
      Re: Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app like with photos? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-06-05 10:50 +0200

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#42902

On 2018-06-10 00:57:20 +0000, gtr said:
> On 2018-06-09 21:23:26 +0000, nospam said:
>> In article <CpXSC.137722$RI2.67617@fx26.iad>, JF Mezei
>> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Would it be fair to state that the replacement for Quicktime 7 Pro is
>>> iMovie ?
>> 
>> no
>> 
>> the replacement for quicktime 7 pro is quicktime x.
>> 
>> unfortunately, it's a downgrade.
> 
> But using a car with a tricycle isn't really a "replacement", per se.
> 
> The "replacement" for QT7Pro, at least for me, is folder full of 
> utiltiies which would include iMovie, Screenflow, Handbrake, mp4tools, 
> mp4joiner and the like.

Quicktime Player 7 Pro was never meant to actually be an proper movie 
editor though. It was meant to play movies, hence the name containing 
*Player*. iMovie was Apple's proper 'cheap' editing app.

To use your analogy, Quicktime Player is the tricycle and iMovie is a 
Korean car ... which I guess makes Quicktime Player X a pair of shoes 
and Adobe Premiere a Ferrari.   ;-)

There's a similar issue with newer versions of Preview (and soon 
QuickLook) gaining editing abilities, but is not really designed to be 
an proper editor.

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#42899

On 2018-06-09 21:13:06 +0000, JF Mezei said:
> On 2018-06-09 09:55, Alan Browne wrote:
>> 
>> Too bad.  It's quite versatile for the modest $ I paid many years ago.
> 
> Would it be fair to state that the replacement for Quicktime 7 Pro is
> iMovie ?

iMovie is a big step up from trying to edit movies in Quicktime Player 
7 Pro. It could be a replacement from a user's point of view, but isn't 
as easy to use (but still easier than the likes of Adobe Premiere or 
Final Cut Pro).

iMovie (released 1999) predates Quicktime Player 7 (released 2005), so 
isn't a replacement in a software sense.

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#42837

In comp.sys.mac.apps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <Q_CdnZqmjKY3iI_GnZ2dnUU7-T2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> > Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos 
> > app like with photos? I see options to do that, but they are not clickable.
> > It 
> > has to be done outside of it like with QuickTime from what I read on the 
> > Internet. The videos were imported from an iPhone 6+.

> the internet is wrong. it can easily be done in quicktime player 7.

> <http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uHQksWKTm2Q/S7EGcT2HElI/AAAAAAAABV8/M4IPIQrn4
> go/s1600/rotate+movie+pref.jpg>

Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.


> however, you will need to 'upgrade' from quicktime x.

Is QT X free?
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#42838

In article <cqudnZWu94aspI_GnZ2dnUU7-TudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.

They don't unless they paid Apple a registration fee and downloaded it.
What do you think the odds are?

> Is QT X free?

It comes with OSX at no extra cost. Define free.

leo

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#42844

On 2018-06-02 07:02:11 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell said:
> In article <cqudnZWu94aspI_GnZ2dnUU7-TudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.
> 
> They don't unless they paid Apple a registration fee and downloaded it.
> What do you think the odds are?
> 
>> Is QT X free?
> 
> It comes with OSX at no extra cost. Define free.

OS X is now free as well.

The only cost involved (other than time) is either buying the Mac in 
the first place or if you're upgrading to an older, paid-for version of 
OS X.

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#42862

On 2018-06-02, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> In article <cqudnZWu94aspI_GnZ2dnUU7-TudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
><ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.
>
> They don't unless they paid Apple a registration fee and downloaded it.
> What do you think the odds are?
>

Correction, it was possible to run QT Player 7 without an authorisation
code, though with lots of menu items greyed out.

Apparently all the AppleScript functions worked with an unauthorised
version, so there's that route too.

-- 
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                                   -- Sylvia Plath

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#42865

On 2018-06-05 08:54:25 +0000, Paul Sture said:
> On 2018-06-02, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> In article <cqudnZWu94aspI_GnZ2dnUU7-TudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
>> <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.
>> 
>> They don't unless they paid Apple a registration fee and downloaded it.
>> What do you think the odds are?
> 
> Correction, it was possible to run QT Player 7 without an authorisation
> code, though with lots of menu items greyed out.

They're greyed out because it's not the registered / paid Pro version.

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#42869

In article <1nvhue-fv4.ln1@news2.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture
<nospam@sture.ch> wrote:

> On 2018-06-02, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> > They don't unless they paid Apple a registration fee and downloaded it.
> > What do you think the odds are?

> Correction, it was possible to run QT Player 7 without an authorisation
> code, though with lots of menu items greyed out.
> 
> Apparently all the AppleScript functions worked with an unauthorised
> version, so there's that route too.

Apologies. I meant QT 7 Pro. Or just maybe QT Pro which is based on QT
7 without the cool stuff greyed out. 

leo

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#42885

On 2018-06-06, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> In article <1nvhue-fv4.ln1@news2.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture
><nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-06-02, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> > They don't unless they paid Apple a registration fee and downloaded it.
>> > What do you think the odds are?
>
>> Correction, it was possible to run QT Player 7 without an authorisation
>> code, though with lots of menu items greyed out.
>> 
>> Apparently all the AppleScript functions worked with an unauthorised
>> version, so there's that route too.
>
> Apologies. I meant QT 7 Pro. Or just maybe QT Pro which is based on QT
> 7 without the cool stuff greyed out. 
>

Fair do's.

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#42839

In article <cqudnZWu94aspI_GnZ2dnUU7-TudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> 
> > <http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uHQksWKTm2Q/S7EGcT2HElI/AAAAAAAABV8/M4IPIQrn4
> > go/s1600/rotate+movie+pref.jpg>
> 
> Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.
> 
> 
> > however, you will need to 'upgrade' from quicktime x.
> 
> Is QT X free?

quicktime x is built into macos and is what replaced quicktime 7,
however, it has significantly fewer features, thus the 'upgrade' to the
older and more capable version.

you can still install quicktime 7 but i'm not sure if you can buy
quicktime pro anymore or if qt pro is required for the rotate.

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#42840

In comp.sys.mac.system Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.apps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <Q_CdnZqmjKY3iI_GnZ2dnUU7-T2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> > <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> > > Is there no way to rotate recorded videos in Mac OS Sierra v10.12.6's Photos 
> > > app like with photos? I see options to do that, but they are not clickable.
> > > It 
> > > has to be done outside of it like with QuickTime from what I read on the 
> > > Internet. The videos were imported from an iPhone 6+.

> > the internet is wrong. it can easily be done in quicktime player 7.

> > <http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uHQksWKTm2Q/S7EGcT2HElI/AAAAAAAABV8/M4IPIQrn4
> > go/s1600/rotate+movie+pref.jpg>

> Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.


> > however, you will need to 'upgrade' from quicktime x.

> Is QT X free?

I just checked. It is v10.4 from last year. So, how do I launch this app 
directly from Photos app to easily edit/rotate and save back into it? I didn't 
see any QT options. Or does my "illiterate" client have to tedious of manual 
copying back and forth?

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#42841

In article <0MidnSdy7OUdVY_GnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> > Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.
> 
> > > however, you will need to 'upgrade' from quicktime x.
> 
> > Is QT X free?
> 
> I just checked. It is v10.4 from last year. So, how do I launch this app 
> directly from Photos app to easily edit/rotate and save back into it? Ididn't 
> see any QT options. Or does my "illiterate" client have to tedious of manual 
> copying back and forth?

quicktime x won't work. you need to upgrade to quicktime 7.

<https://support.apple.com/kb/dl923?locale=en_US>

once that's done, do one of:

- launch quicktime player 7, choose open... and open the video like any
other file

- contextual click the video, choose open with..., then choose
quicktime 7 player from the flyout menu.

- put quicktime player 7 in the dock and then drag the video to the
dock icon.

then open movie properties (cmd-j), click on the video track, visual
settings tab and rotate as needed. 

you may need quicktime pro to rotate it.
you will need quicktime pro to save the rotated video.

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#42842

In comp.sys.mac.apps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <0MidnSdy7OUdVY_GnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> > > Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.
> > 
> > > > however, you will need to 'upgrade' from quicktime x.
> > 
> > > Is QT X free?
> > 
> > I just checked. It is v10.4 from last year. So, how do I launch this app 
> > directly from Photos app to easily edit/rotate and save back into it? Ididn't 
> > see any QT options. Or does my "illiterate" client have to tedious of manual 
> > copying back and forth?

> quicktime x won't work. you need to upgrade to quicktime 7.

> <https://support.apple.com/kb/dl923?locale=en_US>

> once that's done, do one of:

> - launch quicktime player 7, choose open... and open the video like any
> other file

> - contextual click the video, choose open with..., then choose
> quicktime 7 player from the flyout menu.

> - put quicktime player 7 in the dock and then drag the video to the
> dock icon.

> then open movie properties (cmd-j), click on the video track, visual
> settings tab and rotate as needed. 

> you may need quicktime pro to rotate it.
> you will need quicktime pro to save the rotated video.

So 7 Pro is not free. What's a good free alternative just to do a basic 
orientation rotation?

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#42846

On 02-Jun-2018, Ant wrote
(in article<WvednZ3HfK0Yto7GnZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>):

> In comp.sys.mac.apps nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
> > In article<0MidnSdy7OUdVY_GnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> > <ANTant@zimage.com>  wrote:
>
> > > > Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.
> > >
> > > > > however, you will need to 'upgrade' from quicktime x.
> > >
> > > > Is QT X free?
> > >
> > > I just checked. It is v10.4 from last year. So, how do I launch this app
> > > directly from Photos app to easily edit/rotate and save back into it?
> > > Ididn't
> > > see any QT options. Or does my "illiterate" client have to tedious of
> > > manual
> > > copying back and forth?
>
> > quicktime x won't work. you need to upgrade to quicktime 7.
>
> > <https://support.apple.com/kb/dl923?locale=en_US>
>
> > once that's done, do one of:
>
> > - launch quicktime player 7, choose open... and open the video like any
> > other file
>
> > - contextual click the video, choose open with..., then choose
> > quicktime 7 player from the flyout menu.
>
> > - put quicktime player 7 in the dock and then drag the video to the
> > dock icon.
>
> > then open movie properties (cmd-j), click on the video track, visual
> > settings tab and rotate as needed.
>
> > you may need quicktime pro to rotate it.
> > you will need quicktime pro to save the rotated video.
>
> So 7 Pro is not free. What's a good free alternative just to do a basic
> orientation rotation?

Nothing free, AFAIK. There were video conversion and editing programs, but 
they cost money. If VLC won't do the rotation, you'll have to live with it as 
is.

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#42847

On 2018-06-03 09:11:54 +0000, Percival John Hackworth said:

> On 02-Jun-2018, Ant wrote
> (in article<WvednZ3HfK0Yto7GnZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>):
> 
>> In comp.sys.mac.apps nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
>>> In article<0MidnSdy7OUdVY_GnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
>>> <ANTant@zimage.com>  wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.
>>>> 
>>>>>> however, you will need to 'upgrade' from quicktime x.
>>>> 
>>>>> Is QT X free?
>>>> 
>>>> I just checked. It is v10.4 from last year. So, how do I launch this app
>>>> directly from Photos app to easily edit/rotate and save back into it?
>>>> Ididn't
>>>> see any QT options. Or does my "illiterate" client have to tedious of
>>>> manual
>>>> copying back and forth?
>> 
>>> quicktime x won't work. you need to upgrade to quicktime 7.
>> 
>>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/dl923?locale=en_US>
>> 
>>> once that's done, do one of:
>> 
>>> - launch quicktime player 7, choose open... and open the video like any
>>> other file
>> 
>>> - contextual click the video, choose open with..., then choose
>>> quicktime 7 player from the flyout menu.
>> 
>>> - put quicktime player 7 in the dock and then drag the video to the
>>> dock icon.
>> 
>>> then open movie properties (cmd-j), click on the video track, visual
>>> settings tab and rotate as needed.
>> 
>>> you may need quicktime pro to rotate it.
>>> you will need quicktime pro to save the rotated video.
>> 
>> So 7 Pro is not free. What's a good free alternative just to do a basic
>> orientation rotation?
> 
> Nothing free, AFAIK. There were video conversion and editing programs, but
> they cost money. If VLC won't do the rotation, you'll have to live with it as
> is.

Isn't handbrake free?

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#42848

On 03-Jun-2018, gtr wrote
(in article <pf1d5a$ic9$1@news.albasani.net>):

> On 2018-06-03 09:11:54 +0000, Percival John Hackworth said:
>
> > On 02-Jun-2018, Ant wrote
> > (in article<WvednZ3HfK0Yto7GnZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>):
> >
> > > In comp.sys.mac.apps nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
> > > > In article<0MidnSdy7OUdVY_GnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> > > > <ANTant@zimage.com>  wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > however, you will need to 'upgrade' from quicktime x.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is QT X free?
> > > > >
> > > > > I just checked. It is v10.4 from last year. So, how do I launch this app
> > > > > directly from Photos app to easily edit/rotate and save back into it?
> > > > > Ididn't
> > > > > see any QT options. Or does my "illiterate" client have to tedious of
> > > > > manual
> > > > > copying back and forth?
> > >
> > > > quicktime x won't work. you need to upgrade to quicktime 7.
> > >
> > > > <https://support.apple.com/kb/dl923?locale=en_US>
> > >
> > > > once that's done, do one of:
> > >
> > > > - launch quicktime player 7, choose open... and open the video like any
> > > > other file
> > >
> > > > - contextual click the video, choose open with..., then choose
> > > > quicktime 7 player from the flyout menu.
> > >
> > > > - put quicktime player 7 in the dock and then drag the video to the
> > > > dock icon.
> > >
> > > > then open movie properties (cmd-j), click on the video track, visual
> > > > settings tab and rotate as needed.
> > >
> > > > you may need quicktime pro to rotate it.
> > > > you will need quicktime pro to save the rotated video.
> > >
> > > So 7 Pro is not free. What's a good free alternative just to do a basic
> > > orientation rotation?
> >
> > Nothing free, AFAIK. There were video conversion and editing programs, but
> > they cost money. If VLC won't do the rotation, you'll have to live with it
> > as
> > is.
>
> Isn't handbrake free?

I use Handbrake regularly. It won't rotate video frames, AFAIK.

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#42849

On 2018-06-03 19:58:32 +0000, Percival John Hackworth said:
> On 03-Jun-2018, gtr wrote
> (in article <pf1d5a$ic9$1@news.albasani.net>):
>> On 2018-06-03 09:11:54 +0000, Percival John Hackworth said:
>>> On 02-Jun-2018, Ant wrote
>>> (in article<WvednZ3HfK0Yto7GnZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>):
>>>> In comp.sys.mac.apps nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>> In article<0MidnSdy7OUdVY_GnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
>>>>> <ANTant@zimage.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player v7.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> however, you will need to 'upgrade' from quicktime x.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is QT X free?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just checked. It is v10.4 from last year. So, how do I launch this app
>>>>>> directly from Photos app to easily edit/rotate and save back into it?
>>>>>> I didn't see any QT options. Or does my "illiterate" client have to 
>>>>>> tedious of manual copying back and forth?
>>>>> 
>>>>> quicktime x won't work. you need to upgrade to quicktime 7.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/dl923?locale=en_US>
>>>>> 
>>>>> once that's done, do one of:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - launch quicktime player 7, choose open... and open the video like any
>>>>> other file
>>>>> 
>>>>> - contextual click the video, choose open with..., then choose
>>>>> quicktime 7 player from the flyout menu.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - put quicktime player 7 in the dock and then drag the video to the
>>>>> dock icon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> then open movie properties (cmd-j), click on the video track, visual
>>>>> settings tab and rotate as needed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> you may need quicktime pro to rotate it.
>>>>> you will need quicktime pro to save the rotated video.
>>>> 
>>>> So 7 Pro is not free. What's a good free alternative just to do a basic
>>>> orientation rotation?
>>> 
>>> Nothing free, AFAIK. There were video conversion and editing programs, but
>>> they cost money. If VLC won't do the rotation, you'll have to live with it
>>> as is.
>> 
>> Isn't handbrake free?
> 
> I use Handbrake regularly. It won't rotate video frames, AFAIK.

The original question was to rotate videos, not individual frames / 
sets of frames within a video.

Handbrake will rotate the whole video, but it's not needed since 
'Quicktime X' can easily do it anyway and already comes free with the 
macOS.

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#42850

On 03-Jun-2018, Your Name wrote
(in article <pf1kvo$dpp$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

> On 2018-06-03 19:58:32 +0000, Percival John Hackworth said:
> > On 03-Jun-2018, gtr wrote
> > (in article <pf1d5a$ic9$1@news.albasani.net>):
> > > On 2018-06-03 09:11:54 +0000, Percival John Hackworth said:
> > > > On 02-Jun-2018, Ant wrote
> > > > (in article<WvednZ3HfK0Yto7GnZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>):
> > > > > In comp.sys.mac.apps nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
> > > > > > In article<0MidnSdy7OUdVY_GnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> > > > > > <ANTant@zimage.com>  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hmm, I will have to see if my client's Mac OS v10.12.6 has QT Player
> > > > > > > > v7.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > however, you will need to 'upgrade' from quicktime x.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is QT X free?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just checked. It is v10.4 from last year. So, how do I launch this
> > > > > > > app
> > > > > > > directly from Photos app to easily edit/rotate and save back into it?
> > > > > > > I didn't see any QT options. Or does my "illiterate" client have to
> > > > > > > tedious of manual copying back and forth?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > quicktime x won't work. you need to upgrade to quicktime 7.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <https://support.apple.com/kb/dl923?locale=en_US>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > once that's done, do one of:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - launch quicktime player 7, choose open... and open the video like any
> > > > > > other file
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - contextual click the video, choose open with..., then choose
> > > > > > quicktime 7 player from the flyout menu.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - put quicktime player 7 in the dock and then drag the video to the
> > > > > > dock icon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > then open movie properties (cmd-j), click on the video track, visual
> > > > > > settings tab and rotate as needed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you may need quicktime pro to rotate it.
> > > > > > you will need quicktime pro to save the rotated video.
> > > > >
> > > > > So 7 Pro is not free. What's a good free alternative just to do a basic
> > > > > orientation rotation?
> > > >
> > > > Nothing free, AFAIK. There were video conversion and editing programs, but
> > > > they cost money. If VLC won't do the rotation, you'll have to live with it
> > > > as is.
> > >
> > > Isn't handbrake free?
> >
> > I use Handbrake regularly. It won't rotate video frames, AFAIK.
>
> The original question was to rotate videos, not individual frames /
> sets of frames within a video.
>
> Handbrake will rotate the whole video, but it's not needed since
> 'Quicktime X' can easily do it anyway and already comes free with the
> macOS.

Actually, Quicktime X requires a license, which I purchased a while ago. It 
will run w/o a license but the full editing features are disabled until you 
buy the "pro" license. I never tried to rotate a video on the free version. 
Does it work?

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#42851

Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote:

> On 03-Jun-2018, Your Name wrote
> (in article <pf1kvo$dpp$1@gioia.aioe.org>):
> 
> > On 2018-06-03 19:58:32 +0000, Percival John Hackworth said:
> > > On 03-Jun-2018, gtr wrote
> > > (in article <pf1d5a$ic9$1@news.albasani.net>):
> > > > On 2018-06-03 09:11:54 +0000, Percival John Hackworth said:
> > > > > On 02-Jun-2018, Ant wrote
> > > > > (in article<WvednZ3HfK0Yto7GnZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>):
> > > > >
> > > > > > So 7 Pro is not free. What's a good free alternative just to do
> > > > > > a basic orientation rotation?
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing free, AFAIK. There were video conversion and editing
> > > > > programs, but they cost money. If VLC won't do the rotation,
> > > > > you'll have to live with it as is.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't handbrake free?
> > >
> > > I use Handbrake regularly. It won't rotate video frames, AFAIK.
> >
> > The original question was to rotate videos, not individual frames /
> > sets of frames within a video.
> >
> > Handbrake will rotate the whole video, but it's not needed since
> > 'Quicktime X' can easily do it anyway and already comes free with the
> > macOS.
> 
> Actually, Quicktime X requires a license, which I purchased a while ago.
> It will run w/o a license but the full editing features are disabled until
> you buy the "pro" license.

There is no purchased licence for QuickTime X. You probably have a
licence for QuickTime 7 Pro, which works with the QuickTime Player 7
application. Apple stopped selling QuickTime Pro many years ago but I
haven't spotted exactly when: Wikipedia says mid 2016, and I found other
references from late 2016 saying it was no longer available.

https://support.apple.com/HT201691

See in particular the last section, which mentions QuickTime X and its
lack of registration keys.

QuickTime Player X was introduced in Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard in
August 2009. At that point, QuickTime Player 7 was pushed into the
Utilities folder. Since then, QuickTime Player 7 has been left to
stagnate, apart from minor updates during the Snow Leopard era (version
7.6.6 still works on High Sierra and can still be downloaded, but is
limited in features if you don't already have a QuickTime 7 Pro licence
key).

I got my QuickTime 7 Pro licence key shortly after QuickTime 7 was
introduced (April 2005, with Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger).

> I never tried to rotate a video on the free version. Does it work?

The free version of QuickTime Player 7 does not have any editing
features.

I just tried rotating an MP4 video with QuickTime Player X 10.4 in macOS
10.13.5 and it worked. Resaving it took a while as it rotated each video
frame.

QuickTime Player X wasn't able to rotate an older MP4 video I tried
(rotate left didn't change it at all apart from marking the document as
edited), so whether it works may depend on the specific details of the
video format.

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#42864

In message <0001HW.20C49721039A625A152D002CF@news.individual.net> Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote:
> Actually, Quicktime X requires a license, which I purchased a while ago. It 
> will run w/o a license but the full editing features are disabled until you 
> buy the "pro" license. I never tried to rotate a video on the free version. 
> Does it work?

Nothing above is accurate. There is no license for Quicktime X, never
has been, and you did not buy one and there are no features in QuickTime
X that are disabled nor any such thing as a Pro license.

You are confusing the deprecated (and soon obsolete) QuickTime 7.



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