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| Started by | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| First post | 2013-12-16 15:53 +0000 |
| Last post | 2013-12-22 08:43 +0000 |
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Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-16 15:53 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Ned Mantei <ned.mantei@biol.ethz.ch> - 2013-12-16 17:50 +0100
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2013-12-19 17:55 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-20 07:12 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-19 23:36 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-20 09:24 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs android <here@there.was> - 2013-12-20 10:38 +0100
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-20 09:47 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs android <here@there.was> - 2013-12-20 10:58 +0100
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-20 12:24 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs android <here@there.was> - 2013-12-20 13:49 +0100
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-20 12:58 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-20 10:04 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-20 21:49 -0500
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-21 13:11 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-21 08:45 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-21 09:25 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-22 08:42 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-22 08:40 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-21 13:10 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-12-21 19:58 -0500
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-21 23:13 -0500
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-22 08:44 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-12-22 14:33 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-20 20:23 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-21 14:44 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-22 00:19 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs android <here@there.was> - 2013-12-22 10:07 +0100
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-22 09:12 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs android <here@there.was> - 2013-12-22 10:28 +0100
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-22 12:07 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-22 08:11 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-22 16:50 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-12-22 14:42 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-22 23:18 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 15:38 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs android <here@there.was> - 2013-12-22 16:44 +0100
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 23:28 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs android <here@there.was> - 2013-12-23 16:59 +0100
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-22 16:48 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-22 19:59 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 23:29 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-23 11:04 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 15:07 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-23 17:23 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 18:44 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-23 18:58 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-23 16:11 -0500
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-26 13:19 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-26 22:35 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 20:55 -0500
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 20:59 -0500
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-26 13:27 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-12-22 14:38 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-22 23:17 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-12-22 15:46 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-23 11:03 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-12-23 13:19 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-26 13:26 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-26 12:17 -0800
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-20 09:37 -0700
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-21 13:10 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-20 21:47 -0500
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-21 14:43 +0000
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-21 11:54 -0500
Re: Photos in iPhoto shared between Macs Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-12-22 08:43 +0000
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| From | PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-21 19:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <l95dfl$jvv$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #20060 |
Sandman wrote: > In article <l920rt$fik$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > >>>>>> USB3 should do the job as it's backward compatible and many enclosures >>>>>> can live on the power that the USB port supplies. Let the OP decide. >>>>> >>>>> ...I am the OP.. >>>> >>>> Oki... It's your money... >>> >>> I've yet to find a product that fits my needs, however. >> >> Why in the world would you need the external to be solid state? A >> complete waste of money! > > Why? > I agree while SSD is Hot commodity. It hasn't been on the market to prove it reliable. Unlike a Standard Hard Drive when I SS goes bad there is no warning. One second it working , 1/2 second it's toast. On a Hard Drive, when it is going bad it usually shows symptoms before it goes belly. Of there are things you can do to a Hard drive to allow you to back up. I've resorted to giving a stiff wrap with the handle end of a screwdriver right on shaft bushing area. Or in some case you can stick in in a Freezer in a Freezer bag for 24 Hours and allow the spindle to work long enough to get to information off. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net mailto:pjonescet@comcast.net
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-12-21 23:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <211220132313380189%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #20085 |
In article <l95dfl$jvv$1@news.albasani.net>, PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> wrote: > I agree while SSD is Hot commodity. It hasn't been on the market to > prove it reliable. yes it has, and it's *much* more reliable than a hard drive with moving parts. > Unlike a Standard Hard Drive when I SS goes bad there is no warning. so what? if it fails, simply restore from a backup. chances are it wont'. and drives often fail without warning too. try dropping an ssd and a hard drive. see which one fails first.
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 08:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlbd9nu.1ah.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #20085 |
In article <l95dfl$jvv$1@news.albasani.net>, PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Why in the world would you need the external to be solid state? A > >> complete waste of money! > > > > Why? > > > I agree while SSD is Hot commodity. It hasn't been on the market to > prove it reliable. > Unlike a Standard Hard Drive when I SS goes bad there is no warning. One > second it working , 1/2 second it's toast. On a Hard Drive, when it is > going bad it usually shows symptoms before it goes belly. Of there are > things you can do to a Hard drive to allow you to back up. I've resorted > to giving a stiff wrap with the handle end of a screwdriver right on > shaft bushing area. Or in some case you can stick in in a Freezer in a > Freezer bag for 24 Hours and allow the spindle to work long enough to > get to information off. Right, I make backups to deal with such problems, and I've had far more mechanical drives fail on me than SSD drives because, well, no SSD drive have failed for me, ever. -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 14:33 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <l97pbi$chb$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #20017 |
On 2013-12-20 18:04:44 +0000, John McWilliams said: > On 12/20/13 PDT, 4:58 AM, Sandman wrote: >> In article <bhismaFoc05U1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> wrote: >> >>>>>> The requirements are: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. SSD >>>>>> 2. bus-powered >>>>>> 3. at least 1TB >>>>>> 4. Thunderbolt + USB2 >>>>>> >>>>> USB3 should do the job as it's backward compatible and many enclosures >>>>> can live on the power that the USB port supplies. Let the OP decide. >>>> >>>> ...I am the OP.. >>> >>> Oki... It's your money... >> >> I've yet to find a product that fits my needs, however. > > Why in the world would you need the external to be solid state? A > complete waste of money! Not the OP, but clearly if you're talking about when using USB, the speed of the SSD is entirely wasted. However, when using Thunderbolt (requirement #4) it would not be. If it is going to be used on multiple computers and one of them *does* have TB, it's not a waste at all. Secondly, just on purely physical durability, the SSD has some advantage, too. But in my experience, 2.5" HDs nowadays are astonishingly solid, even when moved around and such - one is much more likely to cause a problem with the cable connection when moving it around than to cause a HD crash. (And when it's not plugged in, the fact that it's an HD is pretty much a total non issue, as the drive heads should be automatically parked anyway). Here's one example which meets all the OP's requirements other than capacity. It's very much NOT CHEAP: <http://9to5mac.com/2013/11/26/mini-review-elgato-thunderbolt-drive-512gb-external-ssd/> There's also this, but it looks like it comes maxed out at 256GB now: <http://www.amazon.com/LaCie-Rugged-Thunderbolt-Series-9000352/dp/B00A4BEG8M/ref=pd_cp_pc_1> It may be possible to get one of those or, perhaps, one of these: <http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Buffalo/HDPA1.0TU3/> and replace the stock drive with a bigger SSD. Note that a naked 1TB SSD is going to be over $1000 by itself, so the marginal cost of the enclosure here, even when talking about something like that Buffalo one at $200 (including the stock 1TB HD) is relatively the smaller bit of expense.
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| From | Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-20 20:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vilain-B7CBD0.20235820122013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #20008 |
In article <slrnlb8fqt.o9q.mr@irc.sandman.net>, Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > In article <bhismaFoc05U1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> wrote: > > > > > > The requirements are: > > > > > > > > > > 1. SSD > > > > > 2. bus-powered > > > > > 3. at least 1TB > > > > > 4. Thunderbolt + USB2 > > > > > > > > > USB3 should do the job as it's backward compatible and many enclosures > > > > can live on the power that the USB port supplies. Let the OP decide. > > > > > > ...I am the OP.. > > > > Oki... It's your money... > > I've yet to find a product that fits my needs, however. > > -- > Sandman[.net] You probably won't see a 1TB SSD USB drive for consumers. At least not until 6TB internal drives go under $100. #2, #3, and #4 (USB2) you can have now. If you want this, you'll have to build it from parts. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-21 14:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlbbaen.tcn.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #20052 |
In article <vilain-B7CBD0.20235820122013@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > > > > > > The requirements are: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. SSD > > > > > > 2. bus-powered > > > > > > 3. at least 1TB > > > > > > 4. Thunderbolt + USB2 > > > > > > > > > > > USB3 should do the job as it's backward compatible and many enclosures > > > > > can live on the power that the USB port supplies. Let the OP decide. > > > > > > > > ...I am the OP.. > > > > > > Oki... It's your money... > > > > I've yet to find a product that fits my needs, however. > > You probably won't see a 1TB SSD USB drive for consumers. At least not > until 6TB internal drives go under $100. #2, #3, and #4 (USB2) you can > have now. > > If you want this, you'll have to build it from parts. How so? SSD drives are small, slap four 256GB ones toegther in an extern al enclosure powered over USB/TB and a raid controller. SHould work... I'd settle with 500GB as well :) But yeah, it seems that these kind of drives are scarse... -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 00:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vilain-20876B.00190422122013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #20066 |
In article <slrnlbbaen.tcn.mr@irc.sandman.net>, Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > In article <vilain-B7CBD0.20235820122013@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain > <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > The requirements are: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. SSD > > > > > > > 2. bus-powered > > > > > > > 3. at least 1TB > > > > > > > 4. Thunderbolt + USB2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > USB3 should do the job as it's backward compatible and many > > > > > > enclosures > > > > > > can live on the power that the USB port supplies. Let the OP > > > > > > decide. > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the OP.. > > > > > > > > Oki... It's your money... > > > > > > I've yet to find a product that fits my needs, however. > > > > You probably won't see a 1TB SSD USB drive for consumers. At least not > > until 6TB internal drives go under $100. #2, #3, and #4 (USB2) you can > > have now. > > > > If you want this, you'll have to build it from parts. > > How so? SSD drives are small, slap four 256GB ones toegther in an extern al > enclosure powered over USB/TB and a raid controller. SHould work... I'd > settle with 500GB as well :) > > But yeah, it seems that these kind of drives are scarse... As I said, you'll have to build it. You may get 4 256GB SSDs (I'd use 5 to create a RAID5 so you have something more robust) into a single enclosure but I doubt it would be powered solely by a single USB cable. And there's the issue of SW RAID (unless you're also going to build a HW RAID controller into this thing). It's your money really. No vendor has these 4 things right now. And my supply of Melange is gone, so I can't see when it might exist. I suspect you'll see a 1TB consumer grade drive. There's not much call for RAID-ing SSD unless you're in the server space. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 10:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bhnofeFp39dU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #20094 |
In article <vilain-20876B.00190422122013@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > In article <slrnlbbaen.tcn.mr@irc.sandman.net>, > Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > > > In article <vilain-B7CBD0.20235820122013@news.individual.net>, Michael > > Vilain > > <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The requirements are: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. SSD > > > > > > > > 2. bus-powered > > > > > > > > 3. at least 1TB > > > > > > > > 4. Thunderbolt + USB2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > USB3 should do the job as it's backward compatible and many > > > > > > > enclosures > > > > > > > can live on the power that the USB port supplies. Let the OP > > > > > > > decide. > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the OP.. > > > > > > > > > > Oki... It's your money... > > > > > > > > I've yet to find a product that fits my needs, however. > > > > > > You probably won't see a 1TB SSD USB drive for consumers. At least not > > > until 6TB internal drives go under $100. #2, #3, and #4 (USB2) you can > > > have now. > > > > > > If you want this, you'll have to build it from parts. > > > > How so? SSD drives are small, slap four 256GB ones toegther in an extern al > > enclosure powered over USB/TB and a raid controller. SHould work... I'd > > settle with 500GB as well :) > > > > But yeah, it seems that these kind of drives are scarse... > > As I said, you'll have to build it. You may get 4 256GB SSDs (I'd use 5 > to create a RAID5 so you have something more robust) into a single > enclosure but I doubt it would be powered solely by a single USB cable. > And there's the issue of SW RAID (unless you're also going to build a HW > RAID controller into this thing). > > It's your money really. No vendor has these 4 things right now. And my > supply of Melange is gone, so I can't see when it might exist. I > suspect you'll see a 1TB consumer grade drive. There's not much call for > RAID-ing SSD unless you're in the server space. This one gives you three out of four, Jonas: http://tinyurl.com/cyeybm8 A handyman might be able to put a 1TB in it for ya... Maybe. Samsung makes a 2.5" SSD. USB3 gives you USB2. ;-) -- teleportation kills
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 09:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlbdbcc.1ah.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #20099 |
In article <bhnofeFp39dU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> wrote: > > It's your money really. No vendor has these 4 things right now. And my > > supply of Melange is gone, so I can't see when it might exist. I > > suspect you'll see a 1TB consumer grade drive. There's not much call for > > RAID-ing SSD unless you're in the server space. > > This one gives you three out of four, Jonas: http://tinyurl.com/cyeybm8 > A handyman might be able to put a 1TB in it for ya... Maybe. Samsung > makes a 2.5" SSD. USB3 gives you USB2. ;-) It's a good contender, but alas, it's capacity is too small. -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 10:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bhnpljFp39dU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #20100 |
In article <slrnlbdbcc.1ah.mr@irc.sandman.net>, Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > In article <bhnofeFp39dU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> wrote: > > > > It's your money really. No vendor has these 4 things right now. And my > > > supply of Melange is gone, so I can't see when it might exist. I > > > suspect you'll see a 1TB consumer grade drive. There's not much call for > > > RAID-ing SSD unless you're in the server space. > > > > This one gives you three out of four, Jonas: http://tinyurl.com/cyeybm8 > > A handyman might be able to put a 1TB in it for ya... Maybe. Samsung > > makes a 2.5" SSD. USB3 gives you USB2. ;-) > > It's a good contender, but alas, it's capacity is too small. i understand that. AS SAID: A handyman might be able to put on a 1TB SSD into it... Whatever. If you really need a portable 1TB SSD today your beast shot, IMNSHO, would be to buy the drive separately, put it in a USB3 enclosure awaiting one with Thunderbolt too. I can't find the latter either. -- teleportation kills
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 12:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlbdlkn.1rv.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #20101 |
In article <bhnpljFp39dU2@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> wrote: > In article <slrnlbdbcc.1ah.mr@irc.sandman.net>, > Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > > > In article <bhnofeFp39dU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> wrote: > > > > > > It's your money really. No vendor has these 4 things right now. And my > > > > supply of Melange is gone, so I can't see when it might exist. I > > > > suspect you'll see a 1TB consumer grade drive. There's not much call for > > > > RAID-ing SSD unless you're in the server space. > > > > > > This one gives you three out of four, Jonas: http://tinyurl.com/cyeybm8 > > > A handyman might be able to put a 1TB in it for ya... Maybe. Samsung > > > makes a 2.5" SSD. USB3 gives you USB2. ;-) > > > > It's a good contender, but alas, it's capacity is too small. > > i understand that. AS SAID: A handyman might be able to put on a 1TB SSD > into it... Whatever. If you really need a portable 1TB SSD today your > beast shot, IMNSHO, would be to buy the drive separately, put it in a > USB3 enclosure awaiting one with Thunderbolt too. I can't find the > latter either. Indeed. If such an enclosure existed, I would probably do just that. But it has to have both USB3 *and* Thunderbolt. It's thunderbolt I want, and USB is for my iMac at home, that would only do USB2 speeds, which won't cut it unless it's an emergency. Or, I'll get a new Mac Pro for work and move my work iMac home. :) -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 08:11 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vilain-85AAFD.08114622122013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #20102 |
In article <slrnlbdlkn.1rv.mr@irc.sandman.net>, Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > In article <bhnpljFp39dU2@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> > wrote: > > > In article <slrnlbdbcc.1ah.mr@irc.sandman.net>, > > Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > > > > > In article <bhnofeFp39dU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It's your money really. No vendor has these 4 things right now. And > > > > > my > > > > > supply of Melange is gone, so I can't see when it might exist. I > > > > > suspect you'll see a 1TB consumer grade drive. There's not much call > > > > > for > > > > > RAID-ing SSD unless you're in the server space. > > > > > > > > This one gives you three out of four, Jonas: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/cyeybm8 > > > > A handyman might be able to put a 1TB in it for ya... Maybe. Samsung > > > > makes a 2.5" SSD. USB3 gives you USB2. ;-) > > > > > > It's a good contender, but alas, it's capacity is too small. > > > > i understand that. AS SAID: A handyman might be able to put on a 1TB SSD > > into it... Whatever. If you really need a portable 1TB SSD today your > > beast shot, IMNSHO, would be to buy the drive separately, put it in a > > USB3 enclosure awaiting one with Thunderbolt too. I can't find the > > latter either. > > Indeed. If such an enclosure existed, I would probably do just that. But it > has to have both USB3 *and* Thunderbolt. It's thunderbolt I want, and USB > is for my iMac at home, that would only do USB2 speeds, which won't cut it > unless it's an emergency. > > Or, I'll get a new Mac Pro for work and move my work iMac home. :) Well, maybe next year. Such and enclosure most likely doesn't exist. So Santa is leaving you a Windows Surface RT tablet instead. He get them really cheap and heard they make great gifts. Good luck with your quest for mythical hardware. It's good to reach for that which doesn't exist yet. You'll have to literally build said enclosure yourself. Maybe there's money is such a creature but the margins would be killer and you're have to have almost nonexistant manufacturing costs to make anything at all on it. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 16:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlbe67b.2ut.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #20108 |
In article <vilain-85AAFD.08114622122013@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > > > i understand that. AS SAID: A handyman might be able to put on a 1TB SSD > > > into it... Whatever. If you really need a portable 1TB SSD today your > > > beast shot, IMNSHO, would be to buy the drive separately, put it in a > > > USB3 enclosure awaiting one with Thunderbolt too. I can't find the > > > latter either. > > > > Indeed. If such an enclosure existed, I would probably do just that. But it > > has to have both USB3 *and* Thunderbolt. It's thunderbolt I want, and USB > > is for my iMac at home, that would only do USB2 speeds, which won't cut it > > unless it's an emergency. > > > > Or, I'll get a new Mac Pro for work and move my work iMac home. :) > > Well, maybe next year. Such and enclosure most likely doesn't exist. > So Santa is leaving you a Windows Surface RT tablet instead. He get them > really cheap and heard they make great gifts. > > Good luck with your quest for mythical hardware. It's good to reach for > that which doesn't exist yet. The drobo 4-bay enclosure seems to be the best bet right now -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 14:42 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <l97pst$cub$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #20113 |
On 2013-12-22 16:50:50 +0000, Sandman said: > In article <vilain-85AAFD.08114622122013@news.individual.net>, Michael > Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > >>>> i understand that. AS SAID: A handyman might be able to put on a 1TB SSD >>>> into it... Whatever. If you really need a portable 1TB SSD today your >>>> beast shot, IMNSHO, would be to buy the drive separately, put it in a >>>> USB3 enclosure awaiting one with Thunderbolt too. I can't find the >>>> latter either. >>> >>> Indeed. If such an enclosure existed, I would probably do just that. But it >>> has to have both USB3 *and* Thunderbolt. It's thunderbolt I want, and USB >>> is for my iMac at home, that would only do USB2 speeds, which won't cut it >>> unless it's an emergency. >>> >>> Or, I'll get a new Mac Pro for work and move my work iMac home. :) >> >> Well, maybe next year. Such and enclosure most likely doesn't exist. >> So Santa is leaving you a Windows Surface RT tablet instead. He get them >> really cheap and heard they make great gifts. >> >> Good luck with your quest for mythical hardware. It's good to reach for >> that which doesn't exist yet. > > The drobo 4-bay enclosure seems to be the best bet right now I have one. I love it. I don't keep my primary iPhoto repository on it. It's slow. I keep my iPhoto repository on a separate FW800 external HD, and Time Machine backs it up to the Drobo. (And CrashPlan backs it up across town to an external HD attached to another computer completely). Drobos are great. But they aren't fast, at least in my experience.
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 23:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlbesv2.45q.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #20118 |
In article <l97pst$cub$1@reader1.panix.com>, Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> wrote: > > The drobo 4-bay enclosure seems to be the best bet right now > > I have one. I love it. I don't keep my primary iPhoto repository on > it. It's slow. > > I keep my iPhoto repository on a separate FW800 external HD, and Time > Machine backs it up to the Drobo. (And CrashPlan backs it up across > town to an external HD attached to another computer completely). > > Drobos are great. But they aren't fast, at least in my experience. That's my experience as well, but this one can take four SSD drives in it, so amping up with four 480GB SSD drives in it would give me somewhere around 1TB of SSD storage. Question is whether it's still too slow. -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 15:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlbe1r0.1g3m.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #20094 |
In message <vilain-20876B.00190422122013@news.individual.net> Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > In article <slrnlbbaen.tcn.mr@irc.sandman.net>, > Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: >> In article <vilain-B7CBD0.20235820122013@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain >> <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > The requirements are: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. SSD >> > > > > > > 2. bus-powered >> > > > > > > 3. at least 1TB >> > > > > > > 4. Thunderbolt + USB2 >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > USB3 should do the job as it's backward compatible and many >> > > > > > enclosures >> > > > > > can live on the power that the USB port supplies. Let the OP >> > > > > > decide. >> > > > > >> > > > > ...I am the OP.. >> > > > >> > > > Oki... It's your money... >> > > >> > > I've yet to find a product that fits my needs, however. >> > >> > You probably won't see a 1TB SSD USB drive for consumers. At least not >> > until 6TB internal drives go under $100. #2, #3, and #4 (USB2) you can >> > have now. >> > >> > If you want this, you'll have to build it from parts. >> >> How so? SSD drives are small, slap four 256GB ones toegther in an extern al >> enclosure powered over USB/TB and a raid controller. SHould work... I'd >> settle with 500GB as well :) >> >> But yeah, it seems that these kind of drives are scarse... > As I said, you'll have to build it. You may get 4 256GB SSDs (I'd use 5 > to create a RAID5 so you have something more robust) into a single > enclosure but I doubt it would be powered solely by a single USB cable. > And there's the issue of SW RAID (unless you're also going to build a HW > RAID controller into this thing). > It's your money really. No vendor has these 4 things right now. In point of fact, Drobo has a case for 4 or 5 2.5" drives. One second... <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=876458&is=REG&Q=&A=details> Thunderbolt and USB3. Tada! -- "Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence." - H. L. Mencken
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 16:44 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bhofn4Fu4ifU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #20106 |
In article <slrnlbe1r0.1g3m.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <vilain-20876B.00190422122013@news.individual.net> > Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > > In article <slrnlbbaen.tcn.mr@irc.sandman.net>, > > Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > > >> In article <vilain-B7CBD0.20235820122013@news.individual.net>, Michael > >> Vilain > >> <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > >> > >> > > > > > > The requirements are: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. SSD > >> > > > > > > 2. bus-powered > >> > > > > > > 3. at least 1TB > >> > > > > > > 4. Thunderbolt + USB2 > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > USB3 should do the job as it's backward compatible and many > >> > > > > > enclosures > >> > > > > > can live on the power that the USB port supplies. Let the OP > >> > > > > > decide. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > ...I am the OP.. > >> > > > > >> > > > Oki... It's your money... > >> > > > >> > > I've yet to find a product that fits my needs, however. > >> > > >> > You probably won't see a 1TB SSD USB drive for consumers. At least not > >> > until 6TB internal drives go under $100. #2, #3, and #4 (USB2) you can > >> > have now. > >> > > >> > If you want this, you'll have to build it from parts. > >> > >> How so? SSD drives are small, slap four 256GB ones toegther in an extern > >> al > >> enclosure powered over USB/TB and a raid controller. SHould work... I'd > >> settle with 500GB as well :) > >> > >> But yeah, it seems that these kind of drives are scarse... > > > As I said, you'll have to build it. You may get 4 256GB SSDs (I'd use 5 > > to create a RAID5 so you have something more robust) into a single > > enclosure but I doubt it would be powered solely by a single USB cable. > > And there's the issue of SW RAID (unless you're also going to build a HW > > RAID controller into this thing). > > > It's your money really. No vendor has these 4 things right now. > > In point of fact, Drobo has a case for 4 or 5 2.5" drives. > > One second... > > <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=876458&is=REG&Q=&A=det > ails> > > Thunderbolt and USB3. Tada! It ain't buspowered... ;-P -- teleportation kills
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 23:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlbetd1.1t45.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #20107 |
In message <bhofn4Fu4ifU1@mid.individual.net> android <here@there.was> wrote: > In article <slrnlbe1r0.1g3m.g.kreme@amelia.local>, > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> In message <vilain-20876B.00190422122013@news.individual.net> >> Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: >> > In article <slrnlbbaen.tcn.mr@irc.sandman.net>, >> > Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: >> >> >> In article <vilain-B7CBD0.20235820122013@news.individual.net>, Michael >> >> Vilain >> >> <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > > > > > The requirements are: >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > 1. SSD >> >> > > > > > > 2. bus-powered >> >> > > > > > > 3. at least 1TB >> >> > > > > > > 4. Thunderbolt + USB2 >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > USB3 should do the job as it's backward compatible and many >> >> > > > > > enclosures >> >> > > > > > can live on the power that the USB port supplies. Let the OP >> >> > > > > > decide. >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > ...I am the OP.. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Oki... It's your money... >> >> > > >> >> > > I've yet to find a product that fits my needs, however. >> >> > >> >> > You probably won't see a 1TB SSD USB drive for consumers. At least not >> >> > until 6TB internal drives go under $100. #2, #3, and #4 (USB2) you can >> >> > have now. >> >> > >> >> > If you want this, you'll have to build it from parts. >> >> >> >> How so? SSD drives are small, slap four 256GB ones toegther in an extern >> >> al >> >> enclosure powered over USB/TB and a raid controller. SHould work... I'd >> >> settle with 500GB as well :) >> >> >> >> But yeah, it seems that these kind of drives are scarse... >> >> > As I said, you'll have to build it. You may get 4 256GB SSDs (I'd use 5 >> > to create a RAID5 so you have something more robust) into a single >> > enclosure but I doubt it would be powered solely by a single USB cable. >> > And there's the issue of SW RAID (unless you're also going to build a HW >> > RAID controller into this thing). >> >> > It's your money really. No vendor has these 4 things right now. >> >> In point of fact, Drobo has a case for 4 or 5 2.5" drives. >> >> One second... >> >> <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=876458&is=REG&Q=&A=det >> ails> >> >> Thunderbolt and USB3. Tada! > It ain't buspowered... ;-P Does Thunderbolt support Bus Powered? -- Spontaneity has its time and place.
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| From | android <here@there.was> |
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| Date | 2013-12-23 16:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bhr4u6FginiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #20122 |
In article <slrnlbetd1.1t45.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <bhofn4Fu4ifU1@mid.individual.net> > android <here@there.was> wrote: > > In article <slrnlbe1r0.1g3m.g.kreme@amelia.local>, > > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > > >> In message <vilain-20876B.00190422122013@news.individual.net> > >> Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > >> > In article <slrnlbbaen.tcn.mr@irc.sandman.net>, > >> > Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: > >> > >> >> In article <vilain-B7CBD0.20235820122013@news.individual.net>, Michael > >> >> Vilain > >> >> <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > The requirements are: > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > 1. SSD > >> >> > > > > > > 2. bus-powered > >> >> > > > > > > 3. at least 1TB > >> >> > > > > > > 4. Thunderbolt + USB2 > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > USB3 should do the job as it's backward compatible and many > >> >> > > > > > enclosures > >> >> > > > > > can live on the power that the USB port supplies. Let the OP > >> >> > > > > > decide. > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > ...I am the OP.. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Oki... It's your money... > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I've yet to find a product that fits my needs, however. > >> >> > > >> >> > You probably won't see a 1TB SSD USB drive for consumers. At least > >> >> > not > >> >> > until 6TB internal drives go under $100. #2, #3, and #4 (USB2) you > >> >> > can > >> >> > have now. > >> >> > > >> >> > If you want this, you'll have to build it from parts. > >> >> > >> >> How so? SSD drives are small, slap four 256GB ones toegther in an > >> >> extern > >> >> al > >> >> enclosure powered over USB/TB and a raid controller. SHould work... I'd > >> >> settle with 500GB as well :) > >> >> > >> >> But yeah, it seems that these kind of drives are scarse... > >> > >> > As I said, you'll have to build it. You may get 4 256GB SSDs (I'd use 5 > >> > to create a RAID5 so you have something more robust) into a single > >> > enclosure but I doubt it would be powered solely by a single USB cable. > >> > And there's the issue of SW RAID (unless you're also going to build a HW > >> > RAID controller into this thing). > >> > >> > It's your money really. No vendor has these 4 things right now. > >> > >> In point of fact, Drobo has a case for 4 or 5 2.5" drives. > >> > >> One second... > >> > >> <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=876458&is=REG&Q=&A= > >> det > >> ails> > >> > >> Thunderbolt and USB3. Tada! > > > It ain't buspowered... ;-P > > Does Thunderbolt support Bus Powered? I think so... The laCie drive appears to be that. http://tinyurl.com/cyeybm8 -- teleportation kills
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2013-12-22 16:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlbe62o.2ut.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #20106 |
In article <slrnlbe1r0.1g3m.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > > It's your money really. No vendor has these 4 things right now. > > In point of fact, Drobo has a case for 4 or 5 2.5" drives. > > One second... > > <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=876458&is=REG&Q=&A=details> > > Thunderbolt and USB3. Tada! Hmmm, four 2.5" bays, can I put SSD's in them? And for obvious reasons it's not bus-powered. I've had a Drobo once, it was *dog slow*. Perhaps they're faster these days? A great benefit with them is that they're hotswappable and you can mix drive make/sizes as you please. But they also require special software to manage... It's the best suggestions thus far, thanks Lewis. -- Sandman[.net]
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