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| Started by | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| First post | 2013-10-30 08:18 -0700 |
| Last post | 2013-11-02 12:43 -0400 |
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Mail drops PW John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-10-30 08:18 -0700
Re: Mail drops PW Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-30 15:29 +0000
Re: Mail drops PW John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-10-30 09:11 -0700
Re: Mail drops PW Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-30 20:26 +0000
Re: Mail drops PW dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-10-31 09:03 +1100
Re: Mail drops PW John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-11-01 13:16 -0700
Re: Mail drops PW Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-30 20:13 -0700
Re: Mail drops PW John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-11-01 13:17 -0700
Re: Mail drops PW Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-02 12:43 -0400
| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 08:18 -0700 |
| Subject | Mail drops PW |
| Message-ID | <l4r7vj$ln6$1@dont-email.me> |
My main e-mail account starting dropping the Password and reentering it in Preferences does good only for the session— or rather until I quit the app. Yes, leaving the app open will avoid frequent re-entering, but I've been in the habit of closing apps when through with them. (not necessary today, but a long hangover from OSes 6, 7, 8, 9. Short of deleting the account an rebuilding it in Mail, is there a fix to this? -- John McWilliams
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 15:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnl729pu.gr8.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #19035 |
In article <l4r7vj$ln6$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > My main e-mail account starting dropping the Password and reentering it > in Preferences does good only for the session— or rather until I quit > the app. Yes, leaving the app open will avoid frequent re-entering, but > I've been in the habit of closing apps when through with them. (not > necessary today, but a long hangover from OSes 6, 7, 8, 9. > > Short of deleting the account an rebuilding it in Mail, is there a fix > to this? What kind of email account is it? There have been reports of Apple Mail and Yahoo mail having these kind of problems, the solution back then was to go to yahoo.com and login, logout, and then login again. It should then as you if you want to upgrade your account to the new version, which helped some. You can also remove the passwords from the keychain app, which would re-save them to it when entering it in Mail next time, that may help. -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 09:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <l4rb43$aa5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #19036 |
On 10/30/13 PDT, 8:29 AM, Sandman wrote: > > In article <l4r7vj$ln6$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > >> My main e-mail account starting dropping the Password and reentering it >> in Preferences does good only for the session— or rather until I quit >> the app. Yes, leaving the app open will avoid frequent re-entering, but >> I've been in the habit of closing apps when through with them. (not >> necessary today, but a long hangover from OSes 6, 7, 8, 9. >> >> Short of deleting the account an rebuilding it in Mail, is there a fix >> to this? > > What kind of email account is it? There have been reports of Apple Mail and > Yahoo mail having these kind of problems, the solution back then was to go > to yahoo.com and login, logout, and then login again. It should then as you > if you want to upgrade your account to the new version, which helped some. > > You can also remove the passwords from the keychain app, which would > re-save them to it when entering it in Mail next time, that may help. It was (is) my mac.com e-mail, and after combing through Keychain and deleting lots of stuff, that seems to have done the trick. Also cleaned house and deleted carryovers from long gone computers and comcast.net mail accounts. Thank you.
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 20:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnl72r7i.hgb.mr@irc.sandman.net> |
| In reply to | #19040 |
In article <l4rb43$aa5$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > > What kind of email account is it? There have been reports of Apple Mail and > > Yahoo mail having these kind of problems, the solution back then was to go > > to yahoo.com and login, logout, and then login again. It should then as you > > if you want to upgrade your account to the new version, which helped some. > > > > You can also remove the passwords from the keychain app, which would > > re-save them to it when entering it in Mail next time, that may help. > > It was (is) my mac.com e-mail, and after combing through Keychain and > deleting lots of stuff, that seems to have done the trick. Also cleaned > house and deleted carryovers from long gone computers and comcast.net > mail accounts. > > Thank you. No problem. Hope it stays fixed. -- Sandman[.net]
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| From | dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2013-10-31 09:03 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dorayme-A7B539.09034231102013@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #19040 |
In article <l4rb43$aa5$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > On 10/30/13 PDT, 8:29 AM, Sandman wrote: > > > > In article <l4r7vj$ln6$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams > > <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> My main e-mail account starting dropping the Password and reentering it > >> in Preferences does good only for the session— or rather until I quit > >> the app. Yes, leaving the app open will avoid frequent re-entering, but > >> I've been in the habit of closing apps when through with them. (not > >> necessary today, but a long hangover from OSes 6, 7, 8, 9. > >> > >> Short of deleting the account an rebuilding it in Mail, is there a fix > >> to this? > > > > What kind of email account is it? There have been reports of Apple Mail and > > Yahoo mail having these kind of problems, the solution back then was to go > > to yahoo.com and login, logout, and then login again. It should then as you > > if you want to upgrade your account to the new version, which helped some. > > > > You can also remove the passwords from the keychain app, which would > > re-save them to it when entering it in Mail next time, that may help. > > It was (is) my mac.com e-mail, and after combing through Keychain and > deleting lots of stuff, that seems to have done the trick. Also cleaned > house and deleted carryovers from long gone computers and comcast.net > mail accounts. > > Thank you. Don't be too hopeful, though of course, I hope this has done the trick for you for good. I think Mail.app is buggy. Been doing this sort of thing for years in my Mail.app. In my Mail.app, the password as represented by the bullets, now and then disappear for no known reason at all, even when prefs are locked. -- dorayme
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2013-11-01 13:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <l5126f$gj2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #19076 |
On 10/30/13 PDT, 3:03 PM, dorayme wrote: > In article <l4rb43$aa5$1@dont-email.me>, > John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > >> On 10/30/13 PDT, 8:29 AM, Sandman wrote: >>> >>> In article <l4r7vj$ln6$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams >>> <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> My main e-mail account starting dropping the Password and reentering it >>>> in Preferences does good only for the session— or rather until I quit >>>> the app. Yes, leaving the app open will avoid frequent re-entering, but >>>> I've been in the habit of closing apps when through with them. (not >>>> necessary today, but a long hangover from OSes 6, 7, 8, 9. >>>> >>>> Short of deleting the account an rebuilding it in Mail, is there a fix >>>> to this? >>> >>> What kind of email account is it? There have been reports of Apple Mail and >>> Yahoo mail having these kind of problems, the solution back then was to go >>> to yahoo.com and login, logout, and then login again. It should then as you >>> if you want to upgrade your account to the new version, which helped some. >>> >>> You can also remove the passwords from the keychain app, which would >>> re-save them to it when entering it in Mail next time, that may help. >> >> It was (is) my mac.com e-mail, and after combing through Keychain and >> deleting lots of stuff, that seems to have done the trick. Also cleaned >> house and deleted carryovers from long gone computers and comcast.net >> mail accounts. >> >> Thank you. > > Don't be too hopeful, though of course, I hope this has done the trick > for you for good. I think Mail.app is buggy. > > Been doing this sort of thing for years in my Mail.app. In my > Mail.app, the password as represented by the bullets, now and then > disappear for no known reason at all, even when prefs are locked. I am neither hopeful nor despairing over the matter..... this is the first real glitch in Mail for several years that wasn't cured by relaunching the app.
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| From | Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-30 20:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vilain-A9174E.20133830102013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #19035 |
In article <l4r7vj$ln6$1@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > My main e-mail account starting dropping the Password and reentering it > in Preferences does good only for the session‹ or rather until I quit > the app. Yes, leaving the app open will avoid frequent re-entering, but > I've been in the habit of closing apps when through with them. (not > necessary today, but a long hangover from OSes 6, 7, 8, 9. > > Short of deleting the account an rebuilding it in Mail, is there a fix > to this? I've seen this from time to time with CrapCast and AT&T's mail. It's usually their authentication server going off-line (separate from email). I usually ignore it until they fix it or in those two services, don't use their email system at all. I use Gmail or my web hosting company's servers instead. AT&T has gotten better and I haven't had a "failed to connect" in a while. Didn't do any good to call support. Those people just go to an internal web site for status and can't fix anything. Does your problem happen on ALL the accounts or just one in particular? Does the problem happen with another user on your system or just this user? -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2013-11-01 13:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <l5128s$gj2$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #19104 |
On 10/30/13 PDT, 8:13 PM, Michael Vilain wrote: > In article <l4r7vj$ln6$1@dont-email.me>, > John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > >> My main e-mail account starting dropping the Password and reentering it >> in Preferences does good only for the session‹ or rather until I quit >> the app. Yes, leaving the app open will avoid frequent re-entering, but >> I've been in the habit of closing apps when through with them. (not >> necessary today, but a long hangover from OSes 6, 7, 8, 9. >> >> Short of deleting the account an rebuilding it in Mail, is there a fix >> to this? > > I've seen this from time to time with CrapCast and AT&T's mail. It's > usually their authentication server going off-line (separate from > email). I usually ignore it until they fix it or in those two services, > don't use their email system at all. I use Gmail or my web hosting > company's servers instead. > > AT&T has gotten better and I haven't had a "failed to connect" in a > while. Didn't do any good to call support. Those people just go to an > internal web site for status and can't fix anything. > > Does your problem happen on ALL the accounts or just one in particular? > > Does the problem happen with another user on your system or just this > user? It was a mac.com account, and it's been cured. Thank you.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2013-11-02 12:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <kJOdnXoRRKsotujPnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #19035 |
On 2013.10.30, 11:18 , John McWilliams wrote:
> My main e-mail account starting dropping the Password and reentering it
> in Preferences does good only for the session— or rather until I quit
> the app. Yes, leaving the app open will avoid frequent re-entering, but
> I've been in the habit of closing apps when through with them. (not
> necessary today, but a long hangover from OSes 6, 7, 8, 9.
>
> Short of deleting the account an rebuilding it in Mail, is there a fix
> to this?
I was going to suggest some keychain cleaning - but appears you've done
that...
I get this occasionally with Gmail accounts and less often with my ISP
mail. It doesn't persist as it seems to do in your case - that is
re-entering the PW fixes it and I can quit mail and come back in and all
is well.
As to habits, from my Windows days stretching back to Win 3.1, I don't
close utility apps like mail. I start them and they remain running
until the machine needs a shutdown or reboot [or occasionally the app
might need a restart]. In the case of this iMac (or at least the prior
one) that could be stretches of up to 2 months before I was forced by
some Apple DL to restart the computer - so mail and others would be
running for that period as well.
--
"Quotation, n: The act of repeating erroneously the words of another."
-Ambrose Bierce
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