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  DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-12 16:06 -0400
    Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-12 22:29 +0000
      Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-13 09:29 -0400
        Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 13:32 +0000
          Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-13 09:43 -0400
            Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 14:32 +0000
              Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-13 12:05 -0400
                Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-03-13 18:19 -0400
            Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 12:20 -0400
              Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Fester Bestertester <fbt@fbt.net> - 2015-03-14 09:49 -0700
            Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-13 12:35 -0400
            Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-13 17:18 +0000
            Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-14 12:53 -0400
              Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 13:01 -0400
                Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-14 13:38 -0400
                  Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 14:05 -0400
                    Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-15 07:22 +1300
                      Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 14:46 -0400
                      Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-14 19:33 +0000
                        Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-15 20:54 +1300
                          Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-15 13:50 +0000
                            Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-16 15:39 +1300
                              Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 14:41 +0000
                                Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2015-03-22 13:20 -0500
              Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-14 19:31 +0000
                Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-15 01:09 +0000
              Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual?--Answer Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-16 11:09 -0400
    Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2015-03-13 18:49 +0000
      Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 18:57 +0000
      Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 14:58 -0400
        Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2015-03-13 21:10 +0000
          Re: DiskWarrior 5 Manual? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 21:14 +0000

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#28172 — DiskWarrior 5 Manual?

Can anyone tell me where I can get the DW5 manual? I have checked the 
Alsoft site and Googled, but AFAICT you can only get it from the 
thumbdrive they send you. I'd like to read through it before ordering. TIA

-- 
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      --Dilbert 2010.1.5

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#28176

On 2015-03-12, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> Can anyone tell me where I can get the DW5 manual? I have checked the 
> Alsoft site and Googled, but AFAICT you can only get it from the 
> thumbdrive they send you. I'd like to read through it before ordering. TIA

Why not just ask their sales department for it?:

Sales.Info@Alsoft.com

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#28186

On 3/12/15 6:29 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-03-12, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me where I can get the DW5 manual? I have checked the
>> Alsoft site and Googled, but AFAICT you can only get it from the
>> thumbdrive they send you. I'd like to read through it before ordering. TIA
>
> Why not just ask their sales department for it?:
>
> Sales.Info@Alsoft.com

Hmm. Well, that's an interesting thought. Though if the company doesn't 
post a link to the manual on the site, I don't know why sales would be 
authorized to give it out; but stranger things have happened.

I'll give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.

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#28187

On 2015-03-13, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> On 3/12/15 6:29 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-03-12, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>> Can anyone tell me where I can get the DW5 manual? I have checked the
>>> Alsoft site and Googled, but AFAICT you can only get it from the
>>> thumbdrive they send you. I'd like to read through it before ordering. TIA
>>
>> Why not just ask their sales department for it?:
>>
>> Sales.Info@Alsoft.com
>
> Hmm. Well, that's an interesting thought. Though if the company doesn't 
> post a link to the manual on the site, I don't know why sales would be 
> authorized to give it out; but stranger things have happened.
>
> I'll give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.

The way you worded it above is how you should ask them, since you seem
to indicate you ant to order, but would like to read the manual first.
If it resulted in a sale, I don't see why they wouldn't at least
consider it.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#28188

On 3/13/15 9:32 a, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-03-13, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>> On 3/12/15 6:29 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2015-03-12, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>>> Can anyone tell me where I can get the DW5 manual? I have checked the
>>>> Alsoft site and Googled, but AFAICT you can only get it from the
>>>> thumbdrive they send you. I'd like to read through it before ordering. TIA
>>>
>>> Why not just ask their sales department for it?:
>>>
>>> Sales.Info@Alsoft.com
>>
>> Hmm. Well, that's an interesting thought. Though if the company doesn't
>> post a link to the manual on the site, I don't know why sales would be
>> authorized to give it out; but stranger things have happened.
>>
>> I'll give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> The way you worded it above is how you should ask them, since you seem
> to indicate you ant to order, but would like to read the manual first.
> If it resulted in a sale, I don't see why they wouldn't at least
> consider it.

(Wow, this has turned into instant messaging!)

Excellent point and I just emailed sales using the language above, so 
we'll see. I still don't understand why they don't have a clear link on 
their site. It's like they want to hide it. I'm sure I'm not the only 
person who has ever wanted to read the manual before purchasing, despite 
being a current user so I'm familiar with the product.

-- 
Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future.
      --Niels Bohr

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#28189

On 2015-03-13, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> On 3/13/15 9:32 a, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-03-13, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>> On 3/12/15 6:29 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2015-03-12, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>>>> Can anyone tell me where I can get the DW5 manual? I have checked the
>>>>> Alsoft site and Googled, but AFAICT you can only get it from the
>>>>> thumbdrive they send you. I'd like to read through it before ordering. TIA
>>>>
>>>> Why not just ask their sales department for it?:
>>>>
>>>> Sales.Info@Alsoft.com
>>>
>>> Hmm. Well, that's an interesting thought. Though if the company doesn't
>>> post a link to the manual on the site, I don't know why sales would be
>>> authorized to give it out; but stranger things have happened.
>>>
>>> I'll give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
>>
>> The way you worded it above is how you should ask them, since you seem
>> to indicate you ant to order, but would like to read the manual first.
>> If it resulted in a sale, I don't see why they wouldn't at least
>> consider it.
>
> (Wow, this has turned into instant messaging!)
>
> Excellent point and I just emailed sales using the language above, so 
> we'll see. I still don't understand why they don't have a clear link on 
> their site. It's like they want to hide it. I'm sure I'm not the only 
> person who has ever wanted to read the manual before purchasing, despite 
> being a current user so I'm familiar with the product.

Agreed. You might want to make that suggestion to them as well. : )

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#28190

In article <cmgaokFmctlU6@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-03-13, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> > On 3/13/15 9:32 a, Jolly Roger wrote:
> >> On 2015-03-13, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> >>> On 3/12/15 6:29 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
> >>>> On 2015-03-12, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Can anyone tell me where I can get the DW5 manual? I have checked the
> >>>>> Alsoft site and Googled, but AFAICT you can only get it from the
> >>>>> thumbdrive they send you. I'd like to read through it before ordering. 
> >>>>> TIA
> >>>>
> >>>> Why not just ask their sales department for it?:
> >>>>
> >>>> Sales.Info@Alsoft.com
> >>>
> >>> Hmm. Well, that's an interesting thought. Though if the company doesn't
> >>> post a link to the manual on the site, I don't know why sales would be
> >>> authorized to give it out; but stranger things have happened.
> >>>
> >>> I'll give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
> >>
> >> The way you worded it above is how you should ask them, since you seem
> >> to indicate you ant to order, but would like to read the manual first.
> >> If it resulted in a sale, I don't see why they wouldn't at least
> >> consider it.
> >
> > (Wow, this has turned into instant messaging!)
> >
> > Excellent point and I just emailed sales using the language above, so 
> > we'll see. I still don't understand why they don't have a clear link on 
> > their site. It's like they want to hide it. I'm sure I'm not the only 
> > person who has ever wanted to read the manual before purchasing, despite 
> > being a current user so I'm familiar with the product.
> 
> Agreed. You might want to make that suggestion to them as well. : )

How radical a change is there from version 4 to 5? The manual for the 
former is available through a Google.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
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#28203

On 2015-03-13 16:05:50 +0000, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> said:

> In article <cmgaokFmctlU6@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-03-13, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>> > On 3/13/15 9:32 a, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> >> On 2015-03-13, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>> >>> On 3/12/15 6:29 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> >>>> On 2015-03-12, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>> >>>>> Can anyone tell me where I can get the DW5 manual? I have checked the
>> >>>>> Alsoft site and Googled, but AFAICT you can only get it from the
>> >>>>> thumbdrive they send you. I'd like to read through it before 
>> ordering. >>>>> TIA
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Why not just ask their sales department for it?:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sales.Info@Alsoft.com
>> >>>
>> >>> Hmm. Well, that's an interesting thought. Though if the company doesn't
>> >>> post a link to the manual on the site, I don't know why sales would be
>> >>> authorized to give it out; but stranger things have happened.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'll give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
>> >>
>> >> The way you worded it above is how you should ask them, since you seem
>> >> to indicate you ant to order, but would like to read the manual first.
>> >> If it resulted in a sale, I don't see why they wouldn't at least
>> >> consider it.
>> >
>> > (Wow, this has turned into instant messaging!)
>> >
>> > Excellent point and I just emailed sales using the language above, so 
>> > we'll see. I still don't understand why they don't have a clear link 
>> on > their site. It's like they want to hide it. I'm sure I'm not the 
>> only > person who has ever wanted to read the manual before purchasing, 
>> despite > being a current user so I'm familiar with the product.
>> 
>> Agreed. You might want to make that suggestion to them as well. : )
> 
> How radical a change is there from version 4 to 5? The manual for the 
> former is available through a Google.

Bigtime change in the interface...  I mean, it essentially works the 
same way, so using it isn't an issue - but it's a radically different 
app.
-- 
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Liberals are disappointed with President Obama because he's not liberal enough.
Moderates are disappointed with President Obama, but they can't exactly 
put their finger on why.

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#28191

In article <mdupg6$hgd$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
wrote:

> Excellent point and I just emailed sales using the language above, so 
> we'll see. I still don't understand why they don't have a clear link on 
> their site. It's like they want to hide it. I'm sure I'm not the only 
> person who has ever wanted to read the manual before purchasing, despite 
> being a current user so I'm familiar with the product.

what information in the manual do you want? 

it's not as if disk warrior is hard to use.

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#28205

> what information in the manual do you want? 

So, you have a copy? Send it to him.

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#28192

On 2015-03-13 09:43, Fred Moore wrote:
> On 3/13/15 9:32 a, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-03-13, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>> On 3/12/15 6:29 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2015-03-12, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>>>> Can anyone tell me where I can get the DW5 manual? I have checked the
>>>>> Alsoft site and Googled, but AFAICT you can only get it from the
>>>>> thumbdrive they send you. I'd like to read through it before
>>>>> ordering. TIA
>>>>
>>>> Why not just ask their sales department for it?:
>>>>
>>>> Sales.Info@Alsoft.com
>>>
>>> Hmm. Well, that's an interesting thought. Though if the company doesn't
>>> post a link to the manual on the site, I don't know why sales would be
>>> authorized to give it out; but stranger things have happened.
>>>
>>> I'll give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
>>
>> The way you worded it above is how you should ask them, since you seem
>> to indicate you ant to order, but would like to read the manual first.
>> If it resulted in a sale, I don't see why they wouldn't at least
>> consider it.
>
> (Wow, this has turned into instant messaging!)
>
> Excellent point and I just emailed sales using the language above, so
> we'll see. I still don't understand why they don't have a clear link on
> their site. It's like they want to hide it. I'm sure I'm not the only
> person who has ever wanted to read the manual before purchasing, despite
> being a current user so I'm familiar with the product.

Could it be simply that DW is intuitive and informative enough that a 
separate manual is not needed?

On a side note I established a software company in the 80's.

It was called:  Alsoft.

(Registered co. in Quebec and Canada).

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#28193

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> was all, like:
> On 3/13/15 9:32 a, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-03-13, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>> On 3/12/15 6:29 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2015-03-12, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>>>> Can anyone tell me where I can get the DW5 manual? I have checked the
>>>>> Alsoft site and Googled, but AFAICT you can only get it from the
>>>>> thumbdrive they send you. I'd like to read through it before ordering. TIA
>>>>
>>>> Why not just ask their sales department for it?:
>>>>
>>>> Sales.Info@Alsoft.com
>>>
>>> Hmm. Well, that's an interesting thought. Though if the company doesn't
>>> post a link to the manual on the site, I don't know why sales would be
>>> authorized to give it out; but stranger things have happened.
>>>
>>> I'll give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
>>
>> The way you worded it above is how you should ask them, since you seem
>> to indicate you ant to order, but would like to read the manual first.
>> If it resulted in a sale, I don't see why they wouldn't at least
>> consider it.

> (Wow, this has turned into instant messaging!)

> Excellent point and I just emailed sales using the language above, so 
> we'll see. I still don't understand why they don't have a clear link on 
> their site. It's like they want to hide it. I'm sure I'm not the only 
> person who has ever wanted to read the manual before purchasing, despite 
> being a current user so I'm familiar with the product.

Heck, most people won't read the manual AFTER purchase.

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#28206

On 3/13/15 9:43 a, Fred Moore wrote:
> On 3/13/15 9:32 a, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-03-13, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>> On 3/12/15 6:29 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2015-03-12, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
>>>>> Can anyone tell me where I can get the DW5 manual? I have checked the
>>>>> Alsoft site and Googled, but AFAICT you can only get it from the
>>>>> thumbdrive they send you. I'd like to read through it before
>>>>> ordering. TIA
>>>>
>>>> Why not just ask their sales department for it?:
>>>>
>>>> Sales.Info@Alsoft.com
>>>
>>> Hmm. Well, that's an interesting thought. Though if the company doesn't
>>> post a link to the manual on the site, I don't know why sales would be
>>> authorized to give it out; but stranger things have happened.
>>>
>>> I'll give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
>>
>> The way you worded it above is how you should ask them, since you seem
>> to indicate you ant to order, but would like to read the manual first.
>> If it resulted in a sale, I don't see why they wouldn't at least
>> consider it.
>
> (Wow, this has turned into instant messaging!)
>
> Excellent point and I just emailed sales using the language above, so
> we'll see. I still don't understand why they don't have a clear link on
> their site. It's like they want to hide it. I'm sure I'm not the only
> person who has ever wanted to read the manual before purchasing, despite
> being a current user so I'm familiar with the product.

Okay, here's the direct quote of the response from the Alsoft NoSales 
department:

"I do not believe that we have a published copy of the manual. If you have
questions, please contact our technical support department. They can be
reached at tech.support@alsoft.com

"They may be able to provide the documentation. If not, they can address
your questions regarding the software."

They have indeed published a copy of the manual because it's on the USB 
flash drive as mentioned at least once on Macintouch! But suppose it 
wasn't, they'd release a product without any manual?!? Oh joy.

The bozo from NoSales could have contacted tech support and gotten the 
link or forwarded my email to them to answer. But NO, let the 
prospective customer dig elsewhere for the information. Their sales 
director should now qualify for a great deal of unpaid leave.

Against my better judgement, I'll now send my question to tech support 
and report back.

-- 
Nothing says poor craftsmanship more than wrinkled duct tape.

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#28207

In article <me1p02$m35$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
wrote:

> Okay, here's the direct quote of the response from the Alsoft NoSales 
> department:
> 
> "I do not believe that we have a published copy of the manual. If you have
> questions, please contact our technical support department. They can be
> reached at tech.support@alsoft.com
> 
> "They may be able to provide the documentation. If not, they can address
> your questions regarding the software."
> 
> They have indeed published a copy of the manual because it's on the USB 
> flash drive as mentioned at least once on Macintouch! But suppose it 
> wasn't, they'd release a product without any manual?!? Oh joy.
> 
> The bozo from NoSales could have contacted tech support and gotten the 
> link or forwarded my email to them to answer. But NO, let the 
> prospective customer dig elsewhere for the information. Their sales 
> director should now qualify for a great deal of unpaid leave.
> 
> Against my better judgement, I'll now send my question to tech support 
> and report back.

why do you need the manual? do you have a specific question?

the app is not hard to use. in fact it is so easy to use that it
doesn't really need a manual at all.

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#28208

On 3/14/15 1:01 p, nospam wrote:
> In article <me1p02$m35$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Okay, here's the direct quote of the response from the Alsoft NoSales
>> department:
>>
>> "I do not believe that we have a published copy of the manual. If you have
>> questions, please contact our technical support department. They can be
>> reached at tech.support@alsoft.com
>>
>> "They may be able to provide the documentation. If not, they can address
>> your questions regarding the software."
>>
>> They have indeed published a copy of the manual because it's on the USB
>> flash drive as mentioned at least once on Macintouch! But suppose it
>> wasn't, they'd release a product without any manual?!? Oh joy.
>>
>> The bozo from NoSales could have contacted tech support and gotten the
>> link or forwarded my email to them to answer. But NO, let the
>> prospective customer dig elsewhere for the information. Their sales
>> director should now qualify for a great deal of unpaid leave.
>>
>> Against my better judgement, I'll now send my question to tech support
>> and report back.
>
> why do you need the manual? do you have a specific question?
>
> the app is not hard to use. in fact it is so easy to use that it
> doesn't really need a manual at all.

I'd like to see what they have to say  about their product. I want to 
know exactly what they claim it can do and how it goes about it. Not 
that the manual will necessarily address these, or address them 
thoroughly, but I'd like to see what they have to say.

Also, I'd like to get the specifics about installation and making the 
recovery drive. Yes, I could wait for all this till I have the product, 
but why can't I read about it beforehand? I don't think this is 
unreasonable, but Alsoft doesn't seem to want to be forthcoming.

-- 
Q: You're intentionally making my life more difficult?
A: What do you think management IS?
      --Dilbert 2010.6.9

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#28209

In article <me1rll$12k$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
wrote:

> > why do you need the manual? do you have a specific question?
> >
> > the app is not hard to use. in fact it is so easy to use that it
> > doesn't really need a manual at all.
> 
> I'd like to see what they have to say  about their product. I want to 
> know exactly what they claim it can do and how it goes about it. Not 
> that the manual will necessarily address these, or address them 
> thoroughly, but I'd like to see what they have to say.

that's what the web site is for.

> Also, I'd like to get the specifics about installation and making the 
> recovery drive. Yes, I could wait for all this till I have the product, 
> but why can't I read about it beforehand? I don't think this is 
> unreasonable, but Alsoft doesn't seem to want to be forthcoming.

probably because it doesn't really matter. 

the product works exceptionally well, is not hard to use and is now
even better than it used to be.

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#28211

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <me1rll$12k$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > > why do you need the manual? do you have a specific question?
> > >
> > > the app is not hard to use. in fact it is so easy to use that it
> > > doesn't really need a manual at all.
> > 
> > I'd like to see what they have to say  about their product. I want to
> > know exactly what they claim it can do and how it goes about it. Not
> > that the manual will necessarily address these, or address them 
> > thoroughly, but I'd like to see what they have to say.
> 
> that's what the web site is for.
> 
> > Also, I'd like to get the specifics about installation and making the
> > recovery drive. Yes, I could wait for all this till I have the product,
> > but why can't I read about it beforehand? I don't think this is 
> > unreasonable, but Alsoft doesn't seem to want to be forthcoming.
> 
> probably because it doesn't really matter. 
> 
> the product works exceptionally well, is not hard to use and is now
> even better than it used to be.

Is it just me, or is this a non-issue? I mean I miss the days when
software came with hefty printed manuals, and some were actually well
written and useful. Especially game manuals - the last decent one I got
was with Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. But is there any real mystery in
DW? I don't believe I've ever read the manual on any of the versions
I've used from classic days through to OS X. I'm not sure I noticed the
existence of a manual for any of the OS X versions I've owned, heh. A
PDF somewhere on the disc, maybe.

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#28212

In article <1m1bdi2.mu549rd5flfwN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:

> > > > why do you need the manual? do you have a specific question?
> > > >
> > > > the app is not hard to use. in fact it is so easy to use that it
> > > > doesn't really need a manual at all.
> > > 
> > > I'd like to see what they have to say  about their product. I want to
> > > know exactly what they claim it can do and how it goes about it. Not
> > > that the manual will necessarily address these, or address them 
> > > thoroughly, but I'd like to see what they have to say.
> > 
> > that's what the web site is for.
> > 
> > > Also, I'd like to get the specifics about installation and making the
> > > recovery drive. Yes, I could wait for all this till I have the product,
> > > but why can't I read about it beforehand? I don't think this is 
> > > unreasonable, but Alsoft doesn't seem to want to be forthcoming.
> > 
> > probably because it doesn't really matter. 
> > 
> > the product works exceptionally well, is not hard to use and is now
> > even better than it used to be.
> 
> Is it just me, or is this a non-issue? I mean I miss the days when
> software came with hefty printed manuals, and some were actually well
> written and useful. Especially game manuals - the last decent one I got
> was with Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. But is there any real mystery in
> DW? I don't believe I've ever read the manual on any of the versions
> I've used from classic days through to OS X. I'm not sure I noticed the
> existence of a manual for any of the OS X versions I've owned, heh. A
> PDF somewhere on the disc, maybe.

it's not just you.

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#28214

On 2015-03-14, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
>
> Is it just me, or is this a non-issue? I mean I miss the days when
> software came with hefty printed manuals, and some were actually well
> written and useful. Especially game manuals - the last decent one I got
> was with Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. But is there any real mystery in
> DW? I don't believe I've ever read the manual on any of the versions
> I've used from classic days through to OS X. I'm not sure I noticed the
> existence of a manual for any of the OS X versions I've owned, heh. A
> PDF somewhere on the disc, maybe.

I suppose if you had *never* used it, you might be a little more
interested in learning more about it before plopping down cash for it. I
can see where he's coming from. And he's really not asking for a lot. If
there is a manual, it really shouldn't take much effort to send him a
copy to secure the sale.

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#28218

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-03-14, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> >
> > Is it just me, or is this a non-issue? I mean I miss the days when
> > software came with hefty printed manuals, and some were actually well
> > written and useful. Especially game manuals - the last decent one I got
> > was with Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. But is there any real mystery in
> > DW? I don't believe I've ever read the manual on any of the versions
> > I've used from classic days through to OS X. I'm not sure I noticed the
> > existence of a manual for any of the OS X versions I've owned, heh. A
> > PDF somewhere on the disc, maybe.
> 
> I suppose if you had *never* used it, you might be a little more
> interested in learning more about it before plopping down cash for it. I
> can see where he's coming from. And he's really not asking for a lot. If
> there is a manual, it really shouldn't take much effort to send him a
> copy to secure the sale.

Yep. My newest copy of DW is a bit behind, but not much has changed.
Here is it's manual
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1442584/DiskWarrior%20Manual.pdf>
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