Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.sys.mac.apps > #28029 > unrolled thread

Naughty Java

Back to article view | Back to comp.sys.mac.apps

Contents

  Naughty Java Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-07 19:41 -0500
    Re: Naughty Java David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-03-07 19:10 -0600
      Re: Naughty Java Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-08 08:19 -0400
        Re: Naughty Java John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-03-11 04:27 +0000
          Re: Naughty Java tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-03-11 08:54 -0700
            Re: Naughty Java John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-03-15 14:01 +0000
              Re: Naughty Java tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-03-16 12:34 -0700
                Re: Naughty Java John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-03-18 00:55 +0000
                  Re: Naughty Java tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-18 04:58 +0000
      Re: Naughty Java Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-08 19:44 +0000
    Re: Naughty Java dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-08 14:53 +1300
      Re: Naughty Java John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-03-11 04:28 +0000
    Re: Naughty Java Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-08 09:21 -0400
      Re: Naughty Java Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-08 09:29 -0400
      Re: Naughty Java JoeyDee <email@nothanks.com> - 2015-03-08 10:18 -0400
        Re: Naughty Java Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-08 10:25 -0400
          Re: Naughty Java JoeyDee <email@nothanks.com> - 2015-03-08 11:02 -0400
            Re: Naughty Java Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-08 11:22 -0400
              Re: Naughty Java dianea798@gmail.com - 2015-05-01 15:38 -0700
        Re: Naughty Java Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-08 14:59 +0000
      Re: Naughty Java David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-03-08 09:59 -0500

Page 1 of 2  [1] 2  Next page →

#28029 — Naughty Java

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/oracle_java_ask_toolbar/

My wife kept getting the Ask toolbar installed somehow. It's the 
nastiest piece of shit in the world.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]

#28030

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On Saturday, 07 March 2015 19:41 -0500, 
 in article <54fb9aa6$0$46550$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>, 
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/oracle_java_ask_toolbar/

> My wife kept getting the Ask toolbar installed somehow. It's the 
> nastiest piece of shit in the world.

It's a bit like Apple, which has pre-checked tick-boxes, for mailing 
lists they maintain, and lists managed by their unnamed 'partners'.

- -- 
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
 Never underestimate the gullibility of the average user.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2

iEYEARECAAYFAlT7oZMACgkQUrwpmRoS3usAiACglH1rN69hs8LSNFpDywKftwUI
IoEAn0DpfmGDaOHq4xL/yBGxKdTlz8CH
=qZQI
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28032

In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1503071905210.73639@mako.ath.cx>,
 David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> It's a bit like Apple, which has pre-checked tick-boxes, for mailing 
> lists they maintain, and lists managed by their unnamed 'partners'.

I don't mind the odd mailing list thing showing up if I miss a checkbox 
(and in the end, it's up to me to read that stuff). They usually honour 
the "unsubscribe" link, and my spam button works very well.

The toolbars that take over the browser, that's nasty.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28128

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 08:19:44 -0400, Warren Oates
<warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1503071905210.73639@mako.ath.cx>,
> David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> It's a bit like Apple, which has pre-checked tick-boxes, for mailing 
>> lists they maintain, and lists managed by their unnamed 'partners'.
>
>I don't mind the odd mailing list thing showing up if I miss a checkbox 
>(and in the end, it's up to me to read that stuff). They usually honour 
>the "unsubscribe" link, and my spam button works very well.
>
>The toolbars that take over the browser, that's nasty.

 My sister loves them. I take enormous pains to install Firefox, make
sure its clean and lovely and she has it stuffed with toolbars and
other "Helpers" in a couple of days. 
 
 "The Internet's broken again ..."
                                       J. 

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28144

On 3/10/15 9:27 PM, John wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 08:19:44 -0400, Warren Oates
> <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1503071905210.73639@mako.ath.cx>,
>> David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's a bit like Apple, which has pre-checked tick-boxes, for mailing
>>> lists they maintain, and lists managed by their unnamed 'partners'.
>>
>> I don't mind the odd mailing list thing showing up if I miss a checkbox
>> (and in the end, it's up to me to read that stuff). They usually honour
>> the "unsubscribe" link, and my spam button works very well.
>>
>> The toolbars that take over the browser, that's nasty.
>
>   My sister loves them. I take enormous pains to install Firefox, make
> sure its clean and lovely and she has it stuffed with toolbars and
> other "Helpers" in a couple of days.
>
>   "The Internet's broken again ..."
>                                         J.
>

My mother-in-law used to do that.. I told her "you broke the internet.. 
you fix it".  And started making her learn to reinstall windows.

That fixed the issue.

-- 
"Anything's a dildo if you're brave enough".
   - Abraham Lincoln

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28220

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 08:54:32 -0700, tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org>
wrote:

>On 3/10/15 9:27 PM, John wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 08:19:44 -0400, Warren Oates
>> <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1503071905210.73639@mako.ath.cx>,
>>> David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a bit like Apple, which has pre-checked tick-boxes, for mailing
>>>> lists they maintain, and lists managed by their unnamed 'partners'.
>>>
>>> I don't mind the odd mailing list thing showing up if I miss a checkbox
>>> (and in the end, it's up to me to read that stuff). They usually honour
>>> the "unsubscribe" link, and my spam button works very well.
>>>
>>> The toolbars that take over the browser, that's nasty.
>>
>>   My sister loves them. I take enormous pains to install Firefox, make
>> sure its clean and lovely and she has it stuffed with toolbars and
>> other "Helpers" in a couple of days.
>>
>>   "The Internet's broken again ..."
>>                                         J.
>>
>
>My mother-in-law used to do that.. I told her "you broke the internet.. 
>you fix it".  And started making her learn to reinstall windows.
>
>That fixed the issue.

 I tried that. She just suffers. Not silently.
 Then she buys in "expert help" who are not as good as me.
                                                          J. 
                                                            

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28230

On 3/15/15 7:01 AM, John wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 08:54:32 -0700, tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/10/15 9:27 PM, John wrote:
>>> On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 08:19:44 -0400, Warren Oates
>>> <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1503071905210.73639@mako.ath.cx>,
>>>> David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's a bit like Apple, which has pre-checked tick-boxes, for mailing
>>>>> lists they maintain, and lists managed by their unnamed 'partners'.
>>>>
>>>> I don't mind the odd mailing list thing showing up if I miss a checkbox
>>>> (and in the end, it's up to me to read that stuff). They usually honour
>>>> the "unsubscribe" link, and my spam button works very well.
>>>>
>>>> The toolbars that take over the browser, that's nasty.
>>>
>>>    My sister loves them. I take enormous pains to install Firefox, make
>>> sure its clean and lovely and she has it stuffed with toolbars and
>>> other "Helpers" in a couple of days.
>>>
>>>    "The Internet's broken again ..."
>>>                                          J.
>>>
>>
>> My mother-in-law used to do that.. I told her "you broke the internet..
>> you fix it".  And started making her learn to reinstall windows.
>>
>> That fixed the issue.
>
>   I tried that. She just suffers. Not silently.
>   Then she buys in "expert help" who are not as good as me.
>                                                            J.
>
>
Install LinuxMint on it.  Maybe that would slow her down a bit.. :)



-- 
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if 
they are genuine."
   - Abraham Lincoln

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28233

On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:34:40 -0700, tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org>
wrote:


 <<snipped>>                                                       J.
>>
>>
>Install LinuxMint on it.  Maybe that would slow her down a bit.. :)

 I've thought of this. *Often*. But I've never been entirely sure she
could "find the Internet" if I buggered her about too much. Even were
I to install FF and label it *THE INTERNET* she may get lost.
 Or perhaps I grossly underestimate her.
 That is possible isn't it? 
                               J. 

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28234

On 2015-03-18, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:34:40 -0700, tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> <<snipped>>                                                       J.
>>>
>>>
>>Install LinuxMint on it.  Maybe that would slow her down a bit.. :)
>
>  I've thought of this. *Often*. But I've never been entirely sure she
> could "find the Internet" if I buggered her about too much. Even were
> I to install FF and label it *THE INTERNET* she may get lost.
>  Or perhaps I grossly underestimate her.
>  That is possible isn't it? 
>                                J. 

Well we ARE talking about someone who ends up "breaking the internet" and
without Kim Kardashian's help either.. 

-- 
There is nothing so easy but that it becomes difficult when you do it
reluctantly.
		-- Publius Terentius Afer (Terence)

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28041

Okay, so one time? In band camp? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> was all, like:

> On Saturday, 07 March 2015 19:41 -0500, 
>  in article <54fb9aa6$0$46550$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>, 
>  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/oracle_java_ask_toolbar/

>> My wife kept getting the Ask toolbar installed somehow. It's the 
>> nastiest piece of shit in the world.

> It's a bit like Apple, which has pre-checked tick-boxes, for mailing 
> lists they maintain, and lists managed by their unnamed 'partners'.

No, it is nothing like that. At all.

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com
"If you can't do something smart, do something right."

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28031

Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/oracle_java_ask_toolbar/
> 
> My wife kept getting the Ask toolbar installed somehow. It's the 
> nastiest piece of shit in the world.

I have installed the latest Java 8 update 40 and it didn't offer me
anything. I suspect the difference is that I installed the JDK, not the
JRE.

There is also a setting right at the bottom of the Java Control Panel's
Advanced tab: "Suppress sponsor offers when installing or updating
Java", which may be new as of Java 8 update 40. I've enabled that
option, in case Oracle decides to poison the JDK installer in future.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28129

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 14:53:10 +1300, dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David
Empson) wrote:

>Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/oracle_java_ask_toolbar/
>> 
>> My wife kept getting the Ask toolbar installed somehow. It's the 
>> nastiest piece of shit in the world.
>
>I have installed the latest Java 8 update 40 and it didn't offer me
>anything. I suspect the difference is that I installed the JDK, not the
>JRE.
>
>There is also a setting right at the bottom of the Java Control Panel's
>Advanced tab: "Suppress sponsor offers when installing or updating
>Java", which may be new as of Java 8 update 40. I've enabled that
>option, in case Oracle decides to poison the JDK installer in future.

 Can't Oracle just over-write it in an update any time they fancy
enabling "partner" software?
                               J. 

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28033

On 2015.03.07 19:41 , Warren Oates wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/oracle_java_ask_toolbar/
>
> My wife kept getting the Ask toolbar installed somehow. It's the
> nastiest piece of shit in the world.

I just installed it - was not asked for the ask toolbar and it wasn't 
installed.  Maybe Adobe fixed that in the past day.

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28034

On 2015.03.08 09:21 , Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2015.03.07 19:41 , Warren Oates wrote:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/oracle_java_ask_toolbar/
>>
>> My wife kept getting the Ask toolbar installed somehow. It's the
>> nastiest piece of shit in the world.
>
> I just installed it - was not asked for the ask toolbar and it wasn't
> installed.  Maybe Adobe fixed that in the past day.

And removed it again.  No need for it.

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28035

On 2015-03-08 13:21:46 +0000, Alan Browne said:

> On 2015.03.07 19:41 , Warren Oates wrote:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/oracle_java_ask_toolbar/
>> 
>> My wife kept getting the Ask toolbar installed somehow. It's the
>> nastiest piece of shit in the world.
> 
> I just installed it - was not asked for the ask toolbar and it wasn't 
> installed.  Maybe Adobe fixed that in the past day.

I just installed it and was very clearly asked if I wanted the ASK 
toolbar and homepage, both boxes that I unticked before proceeding.

And now in the Java control panel Advanced tab it does ask if I want to 
suppress future crapware, whereas it didn't before this update.

-- 
Remember: It is To Laugh

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28036

On 2015.03.08 10:18 , JoeyDee wrote:
> I just installed it and was very clearly asked if I wanted the ASK
> toolbar and homepage, both boxes that I unticked before proceeding.

When did you DL it?

Was it from "jre-8u40-macosx-x64.dmg"?
MD5: 5d9d3fb624d8da35769e470ae07f2468

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28039

On 2015-03-08 14:25:38 +0000, Alan Browne said:

> On 2015.03.08 10:18 , JoeyDee wrote:
>> I just installed it and was very clearly asked if I wanted the ASK
>> toolbar and homepage, both boxes that I unticked before proceeding.
> 
> When did you DL it?
> 
> Was it from "jre-8u40-macosx-x64.dmg"?
> MD5: 5d9d3fb624d8da35769e470ae07f2468

Right after I read your post, and yes, that was the version.

-- 
Remember: It is To Laugh

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28040

On 2015.03.08 11:02 , JoeyDee wrote:
> On 2015-03-08 14:25:38 +0000, Alan Browne said:
>
>> On 2015.03.08 10:18 , JoeyDee wrote:
>>> I just installed it and was very clearly asked if I wanted the ASK
>>> toolbar and homepage, both boxes that I unticked before proceeding.
>>
>> When did you DL it?
>>
>> Was it from "jre-8u40-macosx-x64.dmg"?
>> MD5: 5d9d3fb624d8da35769e470ae07f2468
>
> Right after I read your post, and yes, that was the version.

Mysterious.


-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#29746

Xxx

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#28038

On 2015-03-08, JoeyDee <email@nothanks.com> wrote:
> On 2015-03-08 13:21:46 +0000, Alan Browne said:
>
>> On 2015.03.07 19:41 , Warren Oates wrote:
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/oracle_java_ask_toolbar/
>>> 
>>> My wife kept getting the Ask toolbar installed somehow. It's the
>>> nastiest piece of shit in the world.
>> 
>> I just installed it - was not asked for the ask toolbar and it wasn't 
>> installed.  Maybe Adobe fixed that in the past day.
>
> I just installed it and was very clearly asked if I wanted the ASK 
> toolbar and homepage, both boxes that I unticked before proceeding.
>
> And now in the Java control panel Advanced tab it does ask if I want to 
> suppress future crapware, whereas it didn't before this update.

I just installed Java (so I can run jdiskreport (gratuitous plug - it's
a great piece of s/ware, and no, I didn't write it)) and no toolbar, no
request, no nothing. Just the Java JRE.

-- 
Today is Boomtime, the 67th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem.  If you have a problem with my attitude,
                    that's your problem.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

Page 1 of 2  [1] 2  Next page →

Back to top | Article view | comp.sys.mac.apps

csiph-web