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Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal

Started byDarrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com>
First post2014-06-02 14:20 +0000
Last post2014-06-13 13:27 +0000
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  Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-02 14:20 +0000
    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-02 10:41 -0400
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-03 02:58 +1200
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-02 17:44 +0200
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-02 21:06 -0500
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-03 08:16 +0200
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-03 22:26 +1200
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-03 13:03 +0200
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-03 07:59 -0700
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 15:15 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-04 03:43 +1200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-06-03 09:47 -0700
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-03 17:58 -0400
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal b@free.fr (Barnabé) - 2014-06-04 09:10 +0100
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-04 10:04 +1000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 11:01 +0200
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-06-02 17:16 +0100
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-02 21:54 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-03 10:06 +1200
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 18:28 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-04 18:10 +1200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-04 22:05 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 00:27 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:33 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 19:16 +0200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 16:37 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-06-02 23:13 +0100
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-03 08:13 +0200
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 18:08 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-04 14:15 +1200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-04 02:59 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-04 19:01 +1200
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-04 03:17 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-04 22:34 +1200
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-04 12:35 -0400
                            Re: Features dropped in OS X versions dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-15 13:04 +1200
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 03:42 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-04 17:49 +0000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-02 15:45 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-02 21:44 +0000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-02 21:43 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 18:31 -0700
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-06-03 09:55 +0200
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 17:59 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-03 18:55 -0700
    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 09:37 -0700
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-02 20:54 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 18:06 -0700
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-04 08:33 +1000
    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-06-02 09:42 -0700
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Salvatore <sal@yojimbo.hack.invalid> - 2014-06-02 19:20 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 19:29 +0000
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-03 08:50 +0200
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 15:16 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 19:33 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 19:40 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 22:01 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-03 18:37 -0400
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-03 19:05 +0200
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 17:18 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-02 21:10 -0500
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 13:10 +0200
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-03 08:10 +1200
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-02 20:54 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-03 08:27 +0200
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 17:19 +0000
    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-02 16:35 -0400
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 21:47 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-02 21:27 -0400
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 03:32 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-03 17:19 -0400
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-04 10:27 -0500
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-05 08:28 +1000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 16:01 +0000
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 17:00 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 19:12 +0000
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-04 18:10 +1200
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:41 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 04:25 +1200
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 17:31 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 05:37 +1200
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-04 19:01 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 07:21 +1200
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:26 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 06:04 +1200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 23:13 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-06 14:26 +1200
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:26 +0200
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-11 09:25 +1200
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-05 08:38 +1000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-04 21:33 -0400
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 03:50 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 18:40 +1200
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 14:13 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 15:32 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:01 -0700
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:31 -0700
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 18:40 +0200
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:06 -0700
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 18:37 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:59 -0700
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:16 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-05 22:56 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 03:20 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-05 23:53 -0500
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-06 08:19 -0700
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:45 -0700
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-06-06 15:10 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 05:44 +1200
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 18:09 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:58 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 19:21 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 08:36 -0700
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 09:00 -0700
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:04 -0700
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:23 -0700
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 17:47 +0100
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:09 -0700
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:16 -0700
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:22 -0700
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 14:30 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:45 -0700
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 21:57 -0400
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 18:43 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:06 -0700
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-05 23:46 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 23:35 -0700
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 09:03 +0200
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 04:55 -0700
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-06 13:07 +0100
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-06 08:23 -0700
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-06 23:31 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 15:40 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 04:45 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:48 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 15:00 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:46 +0200
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:40 -0700
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam@ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2014-06-06 18:04 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 09:20 -0700
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 16:01 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:30 -0700
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:33 -0700
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:52 +0200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam@ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2014-06-07 10:46 +0200
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-07 10:02 -0700
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:15 -0700
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-06 19:30 -0400
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2014-06-05 18:33 +0100
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 19:37 +0200
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2014-06-05 18:50 +0100
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 20:11 +0200
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:17 -0700
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 20:31 +0200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:04 -0700
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 05:55 +1200
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:28 -0400
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 15:58 -0700
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 16:47 -0400
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 16:49 -0700
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:38 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:25 -0400
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:27 -0400
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:13 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 16:47 -0400
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-06 19:02 -0500
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 20:24 -0400
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 01:57 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 00:47 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 07:57 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 14:12 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 11:12 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 15:58 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 12:13 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 12:14 -0400
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 20:29 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 10:48 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 20:27 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 17:55 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 23:45 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 18:04 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 04:49 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 18:36 -0700
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:42 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:50 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:41 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 07:59 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-07 14:53 +0200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 10:34 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-07 16:57 +0200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 11:18 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-07 17:23 +0200
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 11:36 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-08 05:45 +1200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 10:36 +1000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 03:55 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 14:25 +1000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 04:38 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 13:38 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 22:58 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:32 +1200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 06:44 -0700
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-07 19:05 +0200
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-08 05:45 +1200
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 18:27 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 10:30 +1000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-07 20:59 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-08 12:45 +0200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 13:51 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 04:10 +1200
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 19:54 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:32 +1200
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-09 03:31 +0000
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 18:17 +1200
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-09 18:35 +0000
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-10 07:57 +1200
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-09 21:08 +0000
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-10 09:42 +1200
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-10 01:42 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-10 15:37 +1200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 14:16 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 10:30 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 16:12 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 12:27 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 20:53 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 08:13 -0700
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 18:20 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 04:52 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 18:59 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:30 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-07 12:47 -0500
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 17:49 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:19 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-08 22:44 +0200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:03 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 09:18 +0200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 16:39 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 18:56 +0200
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 21:16 +0200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:44 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 18:25 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 22:12 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:46 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-09 09:08 +1000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-09 00:15 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-09 10:42 +1000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 05:36 +0200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-09 04:17 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:19 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:35 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:39 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:44 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 12:30 -0500
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:32 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-10 11:04 +1000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:06 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 00:43 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:00 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 06:36 -0700
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 23:40 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 22:02 -0700
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-08 17:38 +1200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-08 18:03 +1200
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 08:12 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 14:50 +0200
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 09:03 -0400
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 15:24 +0200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-09 13:47 +1200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 08:05 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:54 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 00:44 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:05 -0400
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 21:33 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:01 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:18 -0700
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:44 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:57 -0700
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:42 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 10:01 -0700
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 16:47 -0500
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-09 03:25 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:20 -0500
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-08 20:46 -0400
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:17 -0400
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-11 09:32 -0700
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-12 20:24 -0400
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-12 18:33 -0700
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-16 17:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 17:56 -0400
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-16 16:31 -0700
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-17 19:00 -0400
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-18 06:57 -0700
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:41 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-09 08:48 +1200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 19:58 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:27 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 02:38 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:14 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-07-14 07:25 +0200
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-07-14 21:11 -0500
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-05 08:20 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 19:39 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 19:35 -0700
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:40 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:11 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 18:17 +1200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:43 -0500
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:01 -0400
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:41 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 14:53 +1000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:58 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 19:20 +1000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 17:18 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 18:52 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:30 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 13:41 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-08 11:20 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 22:00 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:36 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 15:31 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 16:32 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:02 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 19:17 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-11 02:01 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-11 16:10 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-11 22:35 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-12 01:10 -0400
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-12 07:15 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-12 17:41 -0400
                                      Unmasking A Complete, Total Dickwad (was: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 04:17 +0000
                                        Re: Unmasking A Complete, Total Dickwad (was: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-16 14:42 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 04:28 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:43 -0400
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 14:00 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:35 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:50 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:22 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 22:44 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:37 +1200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:58 -0400
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:16 -0700
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:40 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:54 -0700
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:40 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:28 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:24 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-09 10:10 -0700
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 08:19 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:55 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 18:01 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:08 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 16:31 +0000
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-12 05:52 +0000
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 16:45 +0000
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 13:35 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-13 18:00 +0000
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 21:57 +0000
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 08:51 +1000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 11:51 +0000
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 00:00 +1000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 14:10 +0000
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 09:49 +1000
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 00:28 +0000
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:38 +0000
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-15 14:51 +0000
                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:34 +0000
                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 04:23 -0400
                                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 17:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 23:36 -0400
                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 07:42 -0400
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:30 +0000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 14:57 -0500
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 22:11 +0000
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 17:40 -0500
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 18:41 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 21:34 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 21:52 +0000
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 19:03 +0000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 19:15 +0000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:40 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 23:18 +0100
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-13 21:06 -0400
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 17:50 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 19:06 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-14 17:39 -0400
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 18:36 +0000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 18:57 +0000
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-16 15:08 +1200
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 16:48 +0000
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-16 16:55 +0000
                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-16 17:14 +0000
                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-17 07:53 +1200
                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:10 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-15 12:25 +1200
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:11 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:33 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:36 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:10 -0400
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 02:33 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 17:15 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:27 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:49 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:21 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:25 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:33 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 21:51 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:16 -0400
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:25 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-08 20:31 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:50 -0400
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 07:29 +0200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:52 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:21 -0400
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 17:44 +0100
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:48 -0700
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 18:55 +0100
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:43 +0200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:14 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:14 +0200
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:11 +0000
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 19:50 +0200
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:02 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 16:52 +0000
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-03 12:56 -0400
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 19:35 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-04 16:15 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-05 08:36 +1000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 19:25 -0700
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 15:05 +1200
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 03:47 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:45 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 20:06 +0200
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 20:09 +0200
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:25 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-07 10:58 +1000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-07 08:38 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 09:41 +1000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 15:55 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-07 23:10 +0200
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-06 08:28 +1000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:14 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:34 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 17:38 -0400
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 16:03 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:25 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 16:32 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-08 16:05 +1200
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:00 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-09 13:49 +1200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 21:27 -0500
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-09 15:46 +1200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-09 00:56 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-09 18:39 +1200
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-09 06:17 -0700
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:58 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-09 11:02 -0700
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-10 09:49 +1200
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-09 18:47 -0400
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-10 14:07 +1200
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 02:17 +0000
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-10 02:03 -0400
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-10 07:23 -0700
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-10 22:28 -0500
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:21 -0400
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-10 18:09 -0400
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 17:17 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-11 15:00 -0400
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:30 -0400
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 22:22 +0000
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:33 -0400
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-12 10:23 +1000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:39 -0500
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-10 07:21 -0700
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-11 08:51 +1000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:37 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:34 -0500
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:20 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:53 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 17:48 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 08:48 +0200
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:17 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 17:17 +0200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 19:58 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 22:29 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 12:09 -0500
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-08 19:34 +0200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 19:59 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 20:03 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:47 +1200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:00 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:30 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 02:39 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:14 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-09 13:59 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 16:35 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 18:53 +0200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 15:58 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 18:15 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-09 14:52 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-10 11:11 +1000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:06 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-10 18:43 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:55 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:14 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:05 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:16 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:05 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 18:32 +0200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:18 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-10 18:40 +0200
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 15:46 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 17:02 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:26 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-10 10:09 -0700
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 15:55 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-10 18:25 +0100
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 19:56 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-10 21:53 +0100
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-11 09:27 -0700
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 19:29 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-11 16:10 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 12:08 -0500
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 19:28 +0200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 16:53 -0500
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:04 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 19:26 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:02 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 22:29 +0200
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:50 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 22:55 +0200
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 16:54 -0500
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:47 +1200
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:33 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:35 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 19:57 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 22:29 +0200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 18:11 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 20:31 +0200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:16 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 18:48 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:25 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 19:39 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-09 15:49 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 22:06 +0200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:53 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-10 19:59 +0200
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 22:40 +0200
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-10 07:20 -0700
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:41 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:39 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:53 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:38 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-11 19:35 +0200
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 17:39 +0000
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-11 13:42 -0400
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 18:09 +0000
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-12 20:24 -0400
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-11 20:02 +0200
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-11 09:33 +1000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 02:43 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 03:05 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 03:47 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 16:55 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-11 17:23 +0000
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 19:30 +0000
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 00:22 +0000
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-12 00:46 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 19:26 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:28 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:24 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:32 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:29 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-06-11 16:35 -0500
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-11 22:40 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-12 03:42 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-12 19:47 +1200
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 18:28 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-12 22:11 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:37 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-11 23:11 +0100
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-11 22:44 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-11 17:18 -0700
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-12 14:36 +1200
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 02:44 +0000
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-12 19:44 +1200
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 16:04 +0000
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-13 09:40 +1200
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-13 09:10 +1000
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-13 17:26 +0000
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 12:51 +1200
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 11:13 +1000
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 15:24 +1200
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 14:13 +1000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 19:47 +1200
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 18:24 +1000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 20:55 +1200
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 19:25 +1000
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 23:03 +1200
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 23:43 +1000
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:09 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 17:02 +0000
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:52 +0000
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 19:04 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 21:45 +0000
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 23:00 +0000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 00:03 +0000
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 23:01 -0500
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 04:24 +0000
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-15 00:38 -0400
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 16:18 +1000
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-15 18:28 +1200
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 18:02 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 17:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-15 12:25 +1200
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-11 20:33 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 02:34 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 00:47 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-11 09:34 -0700
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-12 20:24 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-12 18:51 -0700
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-13 00:14 -0500
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-13 02:44 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-13 18:04 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-13 14:16 -0400
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-13 13:49 -0500
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-13 19:21 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 12:51 +1200
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 02:18 +0000
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 15:24 +1200
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 04:44 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 19:47 +1200
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 15:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 19:53 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-15 12:25 +1200
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 19:41 +0000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-16 15:19 +1200
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 17:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-16 18:11 +0100
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-16 17:19 +0000
                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-16 17:28 +0000
                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 17:46 -0400
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 17:29 +0000
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-17 09:12 +1200
                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-16 17:39 -0400
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-17 09:12 +1200
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-14 07:49 -0400
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 22:01 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 09:12 +1000
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 11:54 +0000
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 15:04 +0100
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 14:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 15:35 +0100
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 15:31 +0000
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 17:42 +0100
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 16:54 +0000
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 18:06 +0100
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 18:01 +0000
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 10:33 +1000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:57 +0000
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:39 +0000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 10:40 +1000
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 00:57 +0000
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 12:56 +1000
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 04:37 +0000
                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 16:15 +1000
                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:48 +0000
                                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 19:30 +1000
                                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 10:05 +0000
                                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2014-06-15 12:00 +0100
                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 18:39 +0000
                                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 10:30 +1000
                                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-16 15:51 +0000
                                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-17 08:11 +1000
                                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-17 13:53 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 09:10 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-18 00:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 10:27 +1000
                                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-18 01:02 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 17:15 +1000
                                                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-18 08:00 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 19:29 +1000
                                                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-18 13:11 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 23:34 +1000
                                                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-19 10:51 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-19 21:31 +1000
                                                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-19 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-20 12:02 +1000
                                                                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-21 15:00 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-22 08:53 +1000
                                                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-18 12:12 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-18 23:09 +1000
                                                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-18 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-19 08:37 +1000
                                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 10:35 +1000
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:55 +0000
                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 22:07 +1000
                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 13:46 +0000
                                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 10:12 +1000
                                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:34 +0000
                                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 17:51 +1000
                                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 15:10 +0000
                                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-16 15:18 +0000
                                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 07:33 -0400
                                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 23:03 +1000
                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 17:34 +0000
                                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 10:21 +1000
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 10:16 +1000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:44 +0000
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-15 09:31 +0100
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 09:51 +0000
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-15 13:17 +0100
                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 13:49 +0000
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 19:19 +1000
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 09:59 +0000
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 08:09 +1000
                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 23:17 +0000
                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 10:47 +1000
                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 10:10 +0000
                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-16 20:36 +1000
                                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 15:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-16 12:22 +0100
                                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 15:46 +0000
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 19:43 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 21:53 +0000
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 10:00 +1000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:42 +0000
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 18:27 +1000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 09:43 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 19:59 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 19:29 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-13 18:17 -0500
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 02:14 +0000
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-14 15:24 +1200
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 11:55 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 19:13 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-14 07:47 -0400
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 19:22 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-16 17:09 -0400
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 18:49 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-14 19:01 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-15 07:27 -0400
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 19:28 +0000
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-16 17:08 -0400
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-14 02:36 -0400
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:32 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 16:27 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:51 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:15 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:32 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 15:44 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 18:30 +0200
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:53 -0400
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-09 16:13 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-10 08:03 +1200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 07:56 +0000
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 16:58 +0000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 19:43 -0700
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:55 -0400
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 03:47 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-03 17:55 -0400
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 16:41 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-04 18:10 +1200
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-04 16:00 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-05 08:30 +1000
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-04 16:07 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 16:09 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 03:53 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-04 17:11 +0100
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 16:22 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-04 19:08 +0100
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 20:09 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-05 08:43 +1000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 11:14 +0200
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 21:56 +1200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 12:15 +0200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-05 21:05 +1000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 01:03 +1200
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-12 20:12 +0200
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 05:34 +1200
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-04 19:55 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 05:34 +1200
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:13 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 06:14 +1200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-06 14:26 +1200
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 16:58 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-06 18:12 +0100
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-06 16:47 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-06 19:05 -0500
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-07 14:23 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-07 21:29 +0100
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-07 20:27 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:22 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-08 23:30 +0100
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-09 10:03 +1000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:47 +1200
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-09 10:11 +0100
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-10 08:36 +1000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 18:00 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-10 11:08 +1000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 21:59 -0700
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:42 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 18:26 +1000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 16:49 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-06 16:57 -0400
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:23 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-08 17:38 +1200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:36 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:16 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-07 09:33 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam@ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2014-06-04 18:56 +0200
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-03 19:09 +0200
    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 14:03 -0700
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-02 17:22 -0400
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 17:45 +0000
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 17:53 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 19:27 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 19:34 +0000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 17:28 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-03 10:33 -0700
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-04 17:35 +0000
    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Charles <fort514@mac.com> - 2014-06-02 21:53 -0400
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 18:36 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-03 20:49 +0200
    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-09 16:20 +0000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 18:36 +0200
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-09 10:06 -0700
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 19:44 +0200
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-09 12:32 -0700
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 21:46 +0200
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 17:55 +0000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 18:18 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 08:18 +0000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:40 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 17:55 +0000
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 16:00 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-12 05:45 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 16:12 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 13:27 +0000

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#22823

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-06-12 18:28 +0000
Message-ID<bvu9quFl9gmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#22812
On 2014-06-12, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <Q-idnU94G72wVwXOnZ2dnUVZ_u8AAAAA@giganews.com>,
>  Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> I don't care if he writes the app or not.
>> 
>> I care about his claims and his means of funding it.
>
> So, you don't care for cornflakes... but you like pissing in other 
> people's cornflakes...

+1

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#22826

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-06-12 22:11 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlpk9bp.nha.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#22812
In message <fredp151-38A585.03421612062014@news.eternal-september.org> 
  FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <Q-idnU94G72wVwXOnZ2dnUVZ_u8AAAAA@giganews.com>,
>  Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

>> I don't care if he writes the app or not.
>> 
>> I care about his claims and his means of funding it.

> So, you don't care for cornflakes... but you like pissing in other 
> people's cornflakes...

+1

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#22788

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-06-11 17:37 -0400
Message-ID<G6CdnXYz36SwUQXOnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#22747
On 2014.06.10, 18:32 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2014-06-10, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2014.06.08, 15:57 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2014-06-08, android <here@there.was> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's not like we can't live without your efforts in this area. There are
>>>> other working Usenet/NNTP clients for the Mac out there...
>>>
>>> Typically when I encounter something that someone else is doing that
>>> doesn't interest me, I simply ignore it and move on to the next thing.
>>> Apparently some individuals react to such situations completely
>>> differently. Instead, several people in this group are actively
>>> discouraging and protesting Doc's efforts.  Alan in particular, is
>>> seemingly heavily invested in it. And now here's android doing the same
>>> thing. I find this behavior extremely peculiar, and have to wonder how
>>> they rationalize their behavior to themselves internally.
>>
>> I'm discouraging the means of it not the it.
>>
>> Indeed, as said the other day, If Doc will pull it down to scotch and
>> cigar level ($2500) I'll happily kick $20 into the pot.
>
> ...and if he asks for anything besides your approved scotch and a cigar,

At $50 - $70 / bottle for decent scotch and $10 - $20 for very good 
stogies, that budget would satisfy far beyond the singular.  He can 
spend each evening in reflective contemplation on his works and look 
forward to completing the project.

> you'll find any and every crappy excuse you can come up with to
> blackball his efforts. Yes, we can see that's what you've been doing.
> The real question is: why? Normal people simply realize they don't have
> to give anyone their money if they don't want to, and then carry on with
> their business to live happily ever after.

Again (this is tedious) it's not the "what" but the claims and the 0/100 
risk/reward model that irks me.

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#22791

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-06-11 23:11 +0100
Message-ID<110620142311143475%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#22788
In article <G6CdnXYz36SwUQXOnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> Again (this is tedious) it's not the "what" but the claims and the 0/100 
> risk/reward model that irks me.

You really are a clueless twerp, aren't you. He's asking to be paid to
do some development. If not enough people here agree that the
development is required, not only does it not get done, but no-one is
out a penny. If enough people do agree, then the development does get
done, and he gets paid for it. What is so bizarre about that so that
you and a few other loonies have got ants in your pants about it?

-- 
"If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling 
that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't 
ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid
tripping your hair-trigger insecurities."                  - D M Procida, UCSM

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#22797

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-06-11 22:44 +0000
Message-ID<lnam4f$aaq$3@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#22791
Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> He's asking to be paid to do some development. If not enough people
> here agree that the development is required, not only does it not get
> done, but no-one is out a penny.

I recall someone mentioning their credit card had already been charged.

Billy Y..
-- 
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	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
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#22798

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-06-11 17:18 -0700
Message-ID<110620141718485042%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#22797
In article <lnam4f$aaq$3@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:

> > He's asking to be paid to do some development. If not enough people
> > here agree that the development is required, not only does it not get
> > done, but no-one is out a penny.
> 
> I recall someone mentioning their credit card had already been charged.

Indiegogo is holding it in escrow; if he doesn't reach his goal, we get
our money back.  If he reaches his goal, he gets the money minus
indiegogo's commission.

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#22806

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-06-12 14:36 +1200
Message-ID<1ln4szb.skzhggllmmyoN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#22798
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <lnam4f$aaq$3@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
> 
> > > He's asking to be paid to do some development. If not enough people
> > > here agree that the development is required, not only does it not get
> > > done, but no-one is out a penny.
> > 
> > I recall someone mentioning their credit card had already been charged.
> 
> Indiegogo is holding it in escrow; if he doesn't reach his goal, we get
> our money back.  If he reaches his goal, he gets the money minus
> indiegogo's commission.

I don't have any issues with Doc beyond his ignorance of major Mac
Usenet clients such as MacSOUP. But I fail to have seen the point in
this entire crowdfunding exercise. Did anyone - _anyone at all_ - really
believe the tiny number of Mac Usenet regulars left in 2014 could or
would fund a USD$20,000 project?

It was an exercise in futility, unless the rationale was to show that a
market doesn't exist for a crowdfunded, unfinished, extreme Alpha
quality new Mac Usenet client, with the majority of features as yet to
be determined, let alone implemented, and the chances of actually
getting a finished product merely a promise (maybe a solid promise - but
still only a promise at some unspecified future time if everything goes
to plan).

FWIW I applaud the intent (if I have correctly understood said intent):
the first new modern OS X Usenet client with a decent feature set that
can appeal to power users (i.e. not another Unison).

I just think that this would have more hope of ever getting anywhere
near user's hands, if it was a hobby part time project eventually sold
as shareware. At least that way there could be a realistic development
path, and some financial reward for the developer. Probably not USD$20K,
at least not for a good long while - assuming it's a good product that
sells steadily over the years. But let's face it - a quick reward of
USD$20K was never going to happen, especially not upfront. Not for a Mac
only - not even iOS (though I understand it could be in the uncertain
future, were it funded) - Usenet client.

Sorry to be a downer, but let us be realistic here. It was never going
to fly :-(

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#22807

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-06-12 02:44 +0000
Message-ID<bvsigjF9fvaU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#22806
On 2014-06-12, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>> In article <lnam4f$aaq$3@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> > > He's asking to be paid to do some development. If not enough people
>> > > here agree that the development is required, not only does it not get
>> > > done, but no-one is out a penny.
>> > 
>> > I recall someone mentioning their credit card had already been charged.
>> 
>> Indiegogo is holding it in escrow; if he doesn't reach his goal, we get
>> our money back.  If he reaches his goal, he gets the money minus
>> indiegogo's commission.
>
> I don't have any issues with Doc beyond his ignorance of major Mac
> Usenet clients such as MacSOUP. But I fail to have seen the point in
> this entire crowdfunding exercise. Did anyone - _anyone at all_ - really
> believe the tiny number of Mac Usenet regulars left in 2014 could or
> would fund a USD$20,000 project?
>
> It was an exercise in futility, unless the rationale was to show that a
> market doesn't exist for a crowdfunded, unfinished, extreme Alpha
> quality new Mac Usenet client, with the majority of features as yet to
> be determined, let alone implemented, and the chances of actually
> getting a finished product merely a promise (maybe a solid promise - but
> still only a promise at some unspecified future time if everything goes
> to plan).
>
> FWIW I applaud the intent (if I have correctly understood said intent):
> the first new modern OS X Usenet client with a decent feature set that
> can appeal to power users (i.e. not another Unison).
>
> I just think that this would have more hope of ever getting anywhere
> near user's hands, if it was a hobby part time project eventually sold
> as shareware. At least that way there could be a realistic development
> path, and some financial reward for the developer. Probably not USD$20K,
> at least not for a good long while - assuming it's a good product that
> sells steadily over the years. But let's face it - a quick reward of
> USD$20K was never going to happen, especially not upfront. Not for a Mac
> only - not even iOS (though I understand it could be in the uncertain
> future, were it funded) - Usenet client.
>
> Sorry to be a downer, but let us be realistic here. It was never going
> to fly :-(

And if Alan and pals had been able to leave it at that, this thread
would be much shorter than it is. : )

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#22813

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-06-12 19:44 +1200
Message-ID<1ln57qo.1psjzeh19i4xvyN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#22807
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-06-12, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <lnam4f$aaq$3@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > > He's asking to be paid to do some development. If not enough people
> >> > > here agree that the development is required, not only does it not get
> >> > > done, but no-one is out a penny.
> >> > 
> >> > I recall someone mentioning their credit card had already been charged.
> >> 
> >> Indiegogo is holding it in escrow; if he doesn't reach his goal, we get
> >> our money back.  If he reaches his goal, he gets the money minus
> >> indiegogo's commission.
> >
> > I don't have any issues with Doc beyond his ignorance of major Mac
> > Usenet clients such as MacSOUP. But I fail to have seen the point in
> > this entire crowdfunding exercise. Did anyone - _anyone at all_ - really
> > believe the tiny number of Mac Usenet regulars left in 2014 could or
> > would fund a USD$20,000 project?
> >
> > It was an exercise in futility, unless the rationale was to show that a
> > market doesn't exist for a crowdfunded, unfinished, extreme Alpha
> > quality new Mac Usenet client, with the majority of features as yet to
> > be determined, let alone implemented, and the chances of actually
> > getting a finished product merely a promise (maybe a solid promise - but
> > still only a promise at some unspecified future time if everything goes
> > to plan).
> >
> > FWIW I applaud the intent (if I have correctly understood said intent):
> > the first new modern OS X Usenet client with a decent feature set that
> > can appeal to power users (i.e. not another Unison).
> >
> > I just think that this would have more hope of ever getting anywhere
> > near user's hands, if it was a hobby part time project eventually sold
> > as shareware. At least that way there could be a realistic development
> > path, and some financial reward for the developer. Probably not USD$20K,
> > at least not for a good long while - assuming it's a good product that
> > sells steadily over the years. But let's face it - a quick reward of
> > USD$20K was never going to happen, especially not upfront. Not for a Mac
> > only - not even iOS (though I understand it could be in the uncertain
> > future, were it funded) - Usenet client.
> >
> > Sorry to be a downer, but let us be realistic here. It was never going
> > to fly :-(
> 
> And if Alan and pals had been able to leave it at that, this thread
> would be much shorter than it is. : )

I can be a jerk, but I like to think I'm a jerk for the right reasons
and at the right times.

However certain folk seem to gain satisfaction from tearing down other
people, just for the sake of being a jerk. 'Unsullied' by concerns such
as constructive feedback, intellectual honesty, and fair play, they
aspire to a pure state of jerkdom, if you will.

There's another word for this: troll.

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#22815

FromDarrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com>
Date2014-06-12 16:04 +0000
Message-ID<lncj20$cag$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#22806
For your reference, records indicate that 
jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Did anyone - _anyone at all_ - really
> believe the tiny number of Mac Usenet regulars left in 2014 could or
> would fund a USD$20,000 project?

In science, we gather evidence rather than just make assumptions based
on belief.  There are many crowdfunding campaigns I have seen that
completely defy belief, to the point where they collect millions for
something it is obvious they cannot deliver.  I thought it was worth
seeing if the prospects for a non-commercial effort would be more
fruitful than any of the previous commercial newsreaders for the Mac
have been.  There’s still plenty of time for our current beliefs to
be wrong.

> I just think that this would have more hope of ever getting anywhere
> near user's hands, if it was a hobby part time project eventually sold
> as shareware.

Then you do misread my intent.  I have no desire to fill the world with
more noise, which is what the flood of “hobby” apps and open source
projects do, but to deliver Signal as something that takes a little more
professional pride than that.  I have plenty of code I’ve developed that
doesn’t make it into any (external) user’s hands, because the users have
not made a case for it, monetarily or otherwise.  I made the case as best
as I could with this campaign; you are welcome to make a case for your
position, but it had better be more than “I’d really like a better
newsreader.”

> At least that way there could be a realistic development
> path, and some financial reward for the developer.

And I again ask anyone who thinks that $20K is too much to give some
time-cost estimates that they think are realistic for the features they
want.  Love graphical thread nodes?  Great.  Now go to Panic and ask them
how much it would cost to add it to Unison just for you.  Do you think
it’ll be under $1K?  And that’s just one piece of many that people might
list as a “must have” before their vanishly small market segment will
part with $20 for a finished product.

> Probably not USD$20K,
> at least not for a good long while - assuming it's a good product that
> sells steadily over the years.

What developers do you know that are willing to wait *years* to make
$20K?  What features do you think can be implemented over that time for
that price? Your calls for something “realistic” are hollow when you talk
that way.  

> But let's face it - a quick reward of
> USD$20K was never going to happen, especially not upfront.

Then the reality you have to face is that Usenet on the Mac is never going
to get better.  Except for me.  :-/


-- 
dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ

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#22824

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-06-13 09:40 +1200
Message-ID<1ln6831.2z5w5xg6ih76N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#22815
Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:

> For your reference, records indicate that 
> jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> 
> > Did anyone - _anyone at all_ - really
> > believe the tiny number of Mac Usenet regulars left in 2014 could or
> > would fund a USD$20,000 project?
> 
> In science, we gather evidence rather than just make assumptions based
> on belief.  There are many crowdfunding campaigns I have seen that
> completely defy belief, to the point where they collect millions for
> something it is obvious they cannot deliver.  I thought it was worth
> seeing if the prospects for a non-commercial effort would be more
> fruitful than any of the previous commercial newsreaders for the Mac
> have been.  There's still plenty of time for our current beliefs to
> be wrong.

I wish you luck, but my experience in Usenet, frequenting most of the
Mac focused groups for the past two decades, strongly suggests the
market for an upfront payment of USD$20K for the promise of a new Mac
only Usenet client, doesn't exist, and hasn't existed since the late
90's, in all likelihood.

> > I just think that this would have more hope of ever getting anywhere
> > near user's hands, if it was a hobby part time project eventually sold
> > as shareware.
> 
> Then you do misread my intent.  I have no desire to fill the world with
> more noise, which is what the flood of "hobby" apps and open source
> projects do, but to deliver Signal as something that takes a little more
> professional pride than that.  I have plenty of code I've developed that
> doesn't make it into any (external) user's hands, because the users have
> not made a case for it, monetarily or otherwise.  I made the case as best
> as I could with this campaign; you are welcome to make a case for your
> position, but it had better be more than "I'd really like a better
> newsreader."
> 
> > At least that way there could be a realistic development
> > path, and some financial reward for the developer.
> 
> And I again ask anyone who thinks that $20K is too much to give some
> time-cost estimates that they think are realistic for the features they
> want.  Love graphical thread nodes?  Great.  Now go to Panic and ask them
> how much it would cost to add it to Unison just for you.  Do you think
> it'll be under $1K?  And that's just one piece of many that people might
> list as a "must have" before their vanishly small market segment will
> part with $20 for a finished product.

I don't think you're being unrealistic in valuing your time for a
commercial product with a solid market. I _do_ think you're being wildly
unrealistic to believe that a market exists (for merely the promise of a
new Mac Usenet client) that would support anything beyond another
shareware or demoware app with a long, uncertain payoff. Thus one must
reevaluate the reasons for undertaking such a project, or whether it's
worth it to you to do so at all. That's simply being realistic :-)

> > Probably not USD$20K,
> > at least not for a good long while - assuming it's a good product that
> > sells steadily over the years.
> 
> What developers do you know that are willing to wait *years* to make
> $20K?  What features do you think can be implemented over that time for
> that price? Your calls for something "realistic" are hollow when you talk
> that way.  

Realistic would be resigning yourself to the reality that the market
you'd like to exist, simply does not exist, especially in the form you
desire. You may not like it, but as "hollow" as you may believe that to
be, it is the undeniable reality of the situation.

> > But let's face it - a quick reward of
> > USD$20K was never going to happen, especially not upfront.
> 
> Then the reality you have to face is that Usenet on the Mac is never going
> to get better.  Except for me.  :-/

It might, if someone approaches building a new Mac Usenet client from a
realistic perspective, and sets goals accordingly - then I believe it
could work in a more limited fashion over a longer time frame,
benefiting many - not least of which: yourself :-)

Various open source, hobby and shareware initiatives have succeeded over
the years in producing decent software for extremely limited niche
markets. They've done this by realising that getting paid, especially
upfront, isn't going to happen, and that long term rewards are also
uncertain and should not be relied on to enable, nor as a barometer of
success.

You've a decision to make: keep Signal as your own hobby to improve your
own Usenet experience, which is fine :-) Or turn the hobby into an
effort to make a product that can be used in the wider world, with some
level of financial compensation for yourself, if you desire. But it's
not going to be compensation on par with commercial software
development, or even shareware or iOS development for popular apps. If
that is the level of compensation you require, then I would recommend
moving on to something else right now, because you're setting yourself
up for certain failure :-)

Also, I'd point out that there are parallels one can draw (and I'm sure
I'm not the only one to have done so) between your insistence on
substantial upfront monetary compensation for your product before it
sees the light of day, and a certain other Mac Usenet client's author
who insisted that more people pay for his app, before he'd release new
versions and fix bugs, or even continue to sell the current version at
all. Both of you have that right, of course :-)

But neither of you do yourself any favours when you blame the users and
the available market for the failure of your vision. I'm sorry you
received some unsympathetic, insensitive responses, and outright
trolling here. But you knew such people existed, and you engaged rather
than ignored them at your own risk. Develop or do not develop. Release
or do not release. Sell for profit or do not. Just don't blame us for
how it all pans out and expect said blame to do anything but lower your
status here. We've seen how that works out, and it ain't pretty.

I would encourage you to instead take a positive yet realistic outlook,
do what you want to, how you want to, and take such rewards in terms of
happiness, personal fulfillment, and financial compensation, as there
are to be realistically had. Setting yourself up for inevitable failure
and then blaming others does no one any favours - least of all yourself
:-)

Go well Doc.

Regards,
 Jamie Kahn Genet

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#22829

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-06-13 09:10 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-6CE72D.09102413062014@aioe.org>
In reply to#22824
In article <1ln6831.2z5w5xg6ih76N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> You've a decision to make: keep Signal as your own hobby to improve your
> own Usenet experience, which is fine :-) Or turn the hobby into an
> effort to make a product that can be used in the wider world, with some
> level of financial compensation for yourself, if you desire. But it's
> not going to be compensation on par with commercial software
> development, or even shareware or iOS development for popular apps. If
> that is the level of compensation you require, then I would recommend
> moving on to something else right now, because you're setting yourself
> up for certain failure :-)

If the poor chap did not have to or did not bother to answer all the 
posts (and the carping) about his proposal, what trouble would he be 
going to? 

He is just waiting to see if there is enough interest; if there is, 
there is money and he can really get going. If not, he can continue to 
do what he is doing while waiting - like other projects and work or 
even having quiet beers in his local with his friends. Does not sound 
like a description of a man "setting himself up for failure", sounds 
more like a man who has a cautious ambition.

-- 
dorayme

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#22841

FromDarrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com>
Date2014-06-13 17:26 +0000
Message-ID<lnfc85$5fu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#22824
For your reference, records indicate that 
jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> I wish you luck, but my experience in Usenet, frequenting most of the
> Mac focused groups for the past two decades, strongly suggests the
> market for an upfront payment of USD$20K for the promise of a new Mac
> only Usenet client, doesn't exist, and hasn't existed since the late
> 90's, in all likelihood.

You may be right, but let’s finish collecting the data to see for sure.

> I _do_ think you're being wildly
> unrealistic to believe that a market exists (for merely the promise of a
> new Mac Usenet client) that would support anything beyond another
> shareware or demoware app with a long, uncertain payoff.

You’re projecting what you think is my belief.  To me, belief really
doesn’t even enter into it.  I’ve just laid out what I see to be a fair
proposition.  It has failure points built in, so it’s not like you’re
pointing out anything that hasn’t been anticipated.

> Thus one must
> reevaluate the reasons for undertaking such a project, or whether it's
> worth it to you to do so at all. That's simply being realistic :-)

Why is it you continue to think that I need a lesson in what is realistic?
You should instead focus on yourself, and others, who still seem to think
that there are good prospects for a new newsreader by any other means than
what I have put forth.

> > What developers do you know that are willing to wait *years* to make
> > $20K?  What features do you think can be implemented over that time for
> > that price? Your calls for something "realistic" are hollow when you talk
> > that way.  
> 
> Realistic would be resigning yourself to the reality that the market
> you'd like to exist, simply does not exist, especially in the form you
> desire. You may not like it, but as "hollow" as you may believe that to
> be, it is the undeniable reality of the situation.

Again, stop trying to impose your imagined beliefs on me.  The campaign
itself will establish what the market is.  I’m well aware of my options
for the various outcomes.

> > Then the reality you have to face is that Usenet on the Mac is never going
> > to get better.  Except for me.  :-/
> 
> It might, if someone approaches building a new Mac Usenet client from a
> realistic perspective, and sets goals accordingly - then I believe it
> could work in a more limited fashion over a longer time frame,
> benefiting many - not least of which: yourself :-)

And I would again challenge you to present your own “realistic” proposal.
You’re sure generating a lot of hot air about what you perceive to be
wrong, but I’m still waiting for you to demonstrate some wisdom in
showing what is otherwise right.  It sure as hell isn’t working for years
to have a chance at $20K.

> Various open source, hobby and shareware initiatives have succeeded over
> the years in producing decent software for extremely limited niche
> markets. They've done this by realising that getting paid, especially
> upfront, isn't going to happen, and that long term rewards are also
> uncertain and should not be relied on to enable, nor as a barometer of
> success.

Generally, they survive (I’d seldom say “succeeded”) by being subsidized
by donated resources.  That certainly was the case for MT-NW.  Even I would
not be working at my regular bill rate for the work I’d do on Signal.  The
problem with excessive subsidy, though, is that the software is abandoned
as soon as the books balance in favor of other work.  The whole point in
not just giving Signal away is because I don’t want it to be yet another
newsreader that goes away like MT-NW did.  Welcome to that reality.

> You've a decision to make: keep Signal as your own hobby to improve your
> own Usenet experience, which is fine :-) Or turn the hobby into an
> effort to make a product that can be used in the wider world, with some
> level of financial compensation for yourself, if you desire.

Such insight!  Maybe you could suggest a way to determine the right
choice.  I don’t know, some sort of way to determine if the *crowd* in the
wider world would *fund* that in some small way?  If only someone as
impossibly stupid as myself could figure out these things . . .

> But it's
> not going to be compensation on par with commercial software
> development,

If you really think you can get otherwise get something like Unison or
MT-NW built commercially for $20K, I encourage you to try.  You clearly
have no idea what “par” even is on this course.

> Also, I'd point out that there are parallels one can draw (and I'm sure
> I'm not the only one to have done so) between your insistence on
> substantial upfront monetary compensation for your product before it
> sees the light of day, and a certain other Mac Usenet client's author
> who insisted that more people pay for his app, before he'd release new
> versions and fix bugs, or even continue to sell the current version at
> all. Both of you have that right, of course :-)

I can only assume you mean Brian Clark.  The thing is, simply bringing
him up supports my approach.  He might be a bit prickly and thin skinned,
but I give him credit for actually updating Thoth for Mavericks.  What
works against you is that, even though he was starting from nowhere near
scratch, he still didn’t get a sufficient number of registrations to see
his renewed effort as worthwhile.  

That’s just another nail in the coffin for the idea that any developer
should put in a lot of upfront effort writing a Usenet app for the Mac.
As I’ve stated, I put in what effort I deemed sufficient to meet my own
needs, and beyond this is diminishing returns.  If you don’t find my
(what truly is) modest proposal to be acceptable, you are welcome to wait
for someone to offer you a better deal.

> But neither of you do yourself any favours when you blame the users and
> the available market for the failure of your vision.

Where have I blamed anyone for anything?  I’m just setting up a realistic
path for future, public development of this newsreader.  If you don’t like
it, start your own campaign that offers better.  Let me know when you
actually have a game plan to achieve what you consider realistic.

> I would encourage you to instead take a positive yet realistic outlook,
> do what you want to, how you want to, and take such rewards in terms of
> happiness, personal fulfillment, and financial compensation, as there
> are to be realistically had. Setting yourself up for inevitable failure
> and then blaming others does no one any favours - least of all yourself
> :-)

Please stop projecting.  What you call a failure is simply the null
hypothesis I was already working with.  Now enough of this touchy-feely
mumbo-jumbo.  If you can’t offer me or anyone else a better deal than I
have set forth, just slide on by.

-- 
dn ƃuᴉʞool ǝɹɐ sƃuᴉɥʇ

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#22854

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-06-14 12:51 +1200
Message-ID<1ln8c6i.cqya7ouzxojkN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#22841
Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:

> For your reference, records indicate that 
> jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> 
> > I wish you luck, but my experience in Usenet, frequenting most of the
> > Mac focused groups for the past two decades, strongly suggests the
> > market for an upfront payment of USD$20K for the promise of a new Mac
> > only Usenet client, doesn't exist, and hasn't existed since the late
> > 90's, in all likelihood.
> 
> You may be right, but let's finish collecting the data to see for sure.

Good luck with that, but I'd bet all my worldly possessions on you not
getting more than a few grand at best, for up front crowdfunding for the
mere promise of an app to serve an extremely limited market - people who
like a certain type (liking the MacSOUP style of client, I feel I'm not
your target market, and I suspect others with similar inclinations feel
the same) of Mac Usenet client.

> > I _do_ think you're being wildly
> > unrealistic to believe that a market exists (for merely the promise of a
> > new Mac Usenet client) that would support anything beyond another
> > shareware or demoware app with a long, uncertain payoff.
> 
> You're projecting what you think is my belief.  To me, belief really
> doesn't even enter into it.  I've just laid out what I see to be a fair
> proposition.  It has failure points built in, so it's not like you're
> pointing out anything that hasn't been anticipated.

It has obvious failure points for sure, that have set yourself up for
automatic failure. I'm not trying to be rude for the sake of being rude,
here. Just honest :-)

> > Thus one must
> > reevaluate the reasons for undertaking such a project, or whether it's
> > worth it to you to do so at all. That's simply being realistic :-)
> 
> Why is it you continue to think that I need a lesson in what is realistic?
> You should instead focus on yourself, and others, who still seem to think
> that there are good prospects for a new newsreader by any other means than
> what I have put forth.

Because you're _not_ being realistic.
 
> > > What developers do you know that are willing to wait *years* to make
> > > $20K?  What features do you think can be implemented over that time for
> > > that price? Your calls for something "realistic" are hollow when you talk
> > > that way.  
> > 
> > Realistic would be resigning yourself to the reality that the market
> > you'd like to exist, simply does not exist, especially in the form you
> > desire. You may not like it, but as "hollow" as you may believe that to
> > be, it is the undeniable reality of the situation.
> 
> Again, stop trying to impose your imagined beliefs on me.  The campaign
> itself will establish what the market is.  I'm well aware of my options
> for the various outcomes.

There is only one likely outcome, but I suppose you have to be more
optimistic that that - marketing and all that jazz (at least I hope
that's why) :-)

> > > Then the reality you have to face is that Usenet on the Mac is never going
> > > to get better.  Except for me.  :-/
> > 
> > It might, if someone approaches building a new Mac Usenet client from a
> > realistic perspective, and sets goals accordingly - then I believe it
> > could work in a more limited fashion over a longer time frame,
> > benefiting many - not least of which: yourself :-)
> 
> And I would again challenge you to present your own "realistic" proposal.
> You're sure generating a lot of hot air about what you perceive to be
> wrong, but I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate some wisdom in
> showing what is otherwise right.  It sure as hell isn't working for years
> to have a chance at $20K.

I've told you in my post you've just replied to, what I consider to be a
realistic path to a new Mac Usenet client. You're ignoring that, and
keep shifting the focus to '$20K or nothing'. If that is the only way
you feel, it's going to be nothing, isn't it?

> > Various open source, hobby and shareware initiatives have succeeded over
> > the years in producing decent software for extremely limited niche
> > markets. They've done this by realising that getting paid, especially
> > upfront, isn't going to happen, and that long term rewards are also
> > uncertain and should not be relied on to enable, nor as a barometer of
> > success.
> 
> Generally, they survive (I'd seldom say "succeeded") by being subsidized
> by donated resources.  That certainly was the case for MT-NW.  Even I would
> not be working at my regular bill rate for the work I'd do on Signal.  The
> problem with excessive subsidy, though, is that the software is abandoned
> as soon as the books balance in favor of other work.  The whole point in
> not just giving Signal away is because I don't want it to be yet another
> newsreader that goes away like MT-NW did.  Welcome to that reality.

Or they stay as hobbies funded by such purchases and donations as they
garner, or as completely unfunded hobbies, sometimes being passed from
dev to dev as interest rises and wains. The point is there's a realism.
Success or failure, continuation or not over the years, collaboration
with others or not, public release or not, beginning the project at all
or not - it's not tied to some pie in the sky benchmark of XYZ financial
reward. The people do it for as long as they care to, understanding
financial compensation as an indicator of success only sets one up for
disappointment, given the extreme niche quality of the market.

> > You've a decision to make: keep Signal as your own hobby to improve your
> > own Usenet experience, which is fine :-) Or turn the hobby into an
> > effort to make a product that can be used in the wider world, with some
> > level of financial compensation for yourself, if you desire.
> 
> Such insight!  Maybe you could suggest a way to determine the right
> choice.  I don't know, some sort of way to determine if the *crowd* in the
> wider world would *fund* that in some small way?  If only someone as
> impossibly stupid as myself could figure out these things . . .

I've already told you what I consider realistic in the post you replied
to, and again in this post. I don't think you're stupid. Just... almost
wilfully naive, and overly focused on financial compensation as the only
marker that matters when it comes to getting anything done in such a
niche market - a Mac usenet client without universal appeal (surely
impossible for any client to please everyone - I'm not blaming you for
this) to the vast majority of Mac Usenet users (I know you failed to
appeal to this MacSOUP user, for example).

> > But it's
> > not going to be compensation on par with commercial software
> > development,
> 
> If you really think you can get otherwise get something like Unison or
> MT-NW built commercially for $20K, I encourage you to try.  You clearly
> have no idea what "par" even is on this course.

I have every idea, which is why I know you won't be successful with your
current expectations.

> > Also, I'd point out that there are parallels one can draw (and I'm sure
> > I'm not the only one to have done so) between your insistence on
> > substantial upfront monetary compensation for your product before it
> > sees the light of day, and a certain other Mac Usenet client's author
> > who insisted that more people pay for his app, before he'd release new
> > versions and fix bugs, or even continue to sell the current version at
> > all. Both of you have that right, of course :-)
> 
> I can only assume you mean Brian Clark.  The thing is, simply bringing
> him up supports my approach.  He might be a bit prickly and thin skinned,
> but I give him credit for actually updating Thoth for Mavericks.  What
> works against you is that, even though he was starting from nowhere near
> scratch, he still didn't get a sufficient number of registrations to see
> his renewed effort as worthwhile.  
> 
> That's just another nail in the coffin for the idea that any developer
> should put in a lot of upfront effort writing a Usenet app for the Mac.
> As I've stated, I put in what effort I deemed sufficient to meet my own
> needs, and beyond this is diminishing returns.  If you don't find my
> (what truly is) modest proposal to be acceptable, you are welcome to wait
> for someone to offer you a better deal.

I'll keep being happy for the most part using MacSOUP, as it's author
continues to provide maintenance updates when it breaks on new versions
of OS X. And I'll continue in my hope that someone someday will take a
more realistic approach to developing a new client that would meet my
needs. The way you're acting - I'll be very surprised if anything ever
sees the light of day for other users.

> > But neither of you do yourself any favours when you blame the users and
> > the available market for the failure of your vision.
> 
> Where have I blamed anyone for anything?  I'm just setting up a realistic
> path for future, public development of this newsreader.  If you don't like
> it, start your own campaign that offers better.  Let me know when you
> actually have a game plan to achieve what you consider realistic.

If you're not blaming anyone (and you have, but whatever you wish to
believe), perhaps you should start doing so in a positive fashion (in
other words - start considering why your plan isn't working). Who/what
do you think is to 'blame' for your lack of success and no new modern
Mac Usenet client in many years? :-)

> > I would encourage you to instead take a positive yet realistic outlook,
> > do what you want to, how you want to, and take such rewards in terms of
> > happiness, personal fulfillment, and financial compensation, as there
> > are to be realistically had. Setting yourself up for inevitable failure
> > and then blaming others does no one any favours - least of all yourself
> > :-)
> 
> Please stop projecting.  What you call a failure is simply the null
> hypothesis I was already working with.  Now enough of this touchy-feely
> mumbo-jumbo.  If you can't offer me or anyone else a better deal than I
> have set forth, just slide on by.

I've already said what I consider to be a realistic path to a new
client. Obviously it's not something most people would want to take on,
but given the extreme niche quality of the market you're aiming at, that
is how the cards fall.

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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#22856

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-06-14 11:13 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-06D03E.11132614062014@aioe.org>
In reply to#22854
In article <1ln8c6i.cqya7ouzxojkN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:
> 
> > For your reference, records indicate that 
> > jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> > 
...
> > ... I've just laid out what I see to be a fair
> > proposition.  It has failure points built in, so it's not like you're
> > pointing out anything that hasn't been anticipated.
> 
> It has obvious failure points for sure, that have set yourself up for
> automatic failure. I'm not trying to be rude for the sake of being rude,
> here. Just honest :-)
> 

You protest too much. If you were not *trying* to be rude, you would 
have succeeded by simply saying "OK" in reply to this.

-- 
dorayme

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#22860

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-06-14 15:24 +1200
Message-ID<1ln8klh.12menac1v8nq26N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#22856
dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In article <1ln8c6i.cqya7ouzxojkN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> 
> > Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > For your reference, records indicate that 
> > > jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> > > 
> ...
> > > ... I've just laid out what I see to be a fair
> > > proposition.  It has failure points built in, so it's not like you're
> > > pointing out anything that hasn't been anticipated.
> > 
> > It has obvious failure points for sure, that have set yourself up for
> > automatic failure. I'm not trying to be rude for the sake of being rude,
> > here. Just honest :-)
> > 
> 
> You protest too much. If you were not *trying* to be rude, you would 
> have succeeded by simply saying "OK" in reply to this.

Do I now? I respond to what was said by Doc. But if you need to believe
that, go ahead. IME nothing will change the mind of a believer.

-- 
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#22863

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-06-14 14:13 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-BD7E20.14134114062014@aioe.org>
In reply to#22860
In article <1ln8klh.12menac1v8nq26N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1ln8c6i.cqya7ouzxojkN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> >  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> > 
> > > Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > For your reference, records indicate that 
> > > > jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> > > > 
> > ...
> > > > ... I've just laid out what I see to be a fair
> > > > proposition.  It has failure points built in, so it's not like you're
> > > > pointing out anything that hasn't been anticipated.
> > > 
> > > It has obvious failure points for sure, that have set yourself up for
> > > automatic failure. I'm not trying to be rude for the sake of being rude,
> > > here. Just honest :-)
> > > 
> > 
> > You protest too much. If you were not *trying* to be rude, you would 
> > have succeeded by simply saying "OK" in reply to this.
> 
> Do I now? I respond to what was said by Doc. 

That you respond is not in question. There are all sorts of tricks 
people use when they really cannot see things and think they are so 
innocent. One of them is to state the bleeding *irrelevant* obvious, 
this helps distract themselves and hopefully others from the matter in 
hand. You were being clearly rude when you easily had the opportunity 
not to be. And deep down you knew it otherwise why would you bother to 
protest your innocence before anyone had accused you of anything?

> But if you need to believe
> that, go ahead. 

Another silly remark, why on earth do you need to even say this: of 
course someone will get what they need if it is easy to get. So what?

> IME nothing will change the mind of a believer.

Then your experience is limited. 

Please feel free to donate to me if you find these life coaching tips 
in any way help you. "dorayme c/o Sydney", plain brown envelope, used 
notes, thanks. 

I understand you are a Kiwi. I will know more about you lot when I 
visit in August for a holiday. You are welcome to give tourist advice, 
try to keep your ego out of it.

-- 
dorayme

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#22867

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-06-14 19:47 +1200
Message-ID<1ln8xl1.1pe1a3llhf8rqN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#22863
dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> There are all sorts of tricks people use when they really cannot see
> things and think they are so innocent. One of them is to state the
> bleeding *irrelevant* obvious,

Could you be more specific? Or should it be obvious to me? :-p

Regards,
 Jamie Kahn Genet - who is feeling crotchety.

-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#22868

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-06-14 18:24 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-DCF146.18240614062014@aioe.org>
In reply to#22867
In article <1ln8xl1.1pe1a3llhf8rqN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > There are all sorts of tricks people use when they really cannot see
> > things and think they are so innocent. One of them is to state the
> > bleeding *irrelevant* obvious,
> 
> Could you be more specific? Or should it be obvious to me? :-p
> 
> Regards,
>  Jamie Kahn Genet - who is feeling crotchety.

You have removed the context (at least, in your case, that is a good 
direction, your posts almost always being too long - and not in the 
way that some emperor allegedly thought a Mozart opera had too many 
notes) and my usenet reader is an online one and it is a slight bother 
to look things up when the fault is not mine. Now who is crotchety? <g>

Interesting that you cannot see my point. What can I remember.... 
erm... o yes... in answer to a criticism you were rude, you said a 
totally irrelevant thing, namely that you were responding to someone! 
It is irrelevant because it does not address the criticism at all. And 
it is the bleeding obvious because that's what people do in usenet, 
respond to things said.

I will say it again, it is *interesting* that you cannot see this.

-- 
dorayme

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#22869

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-06-14 20:55 +1200
Message-ID<1ln90la.185fo081ck1uzbN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#22868
dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In article <1ln8xl1.1pe1a3llhf8rqN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> 
> > dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > There are all sorts of tricks people use when they really cannot see
> > > things and think they are so innocent. One of them is to state the
> > > bleeding *irrelevant* obvious,
> > 
> > Could you be more specific? Or should it be obvious to me? :-p
> > 
> > Regards,
> >  Jamie Kahn Genet - who is feeling crotchety.
> 
> You have removed the context (at least, in your case, that is a good 
> direction, your posts almost always being too long - and not in the 
> way that some emperor allegedly thought a Mozart opera had too many 
> notes) and my usenet reader is an online one and it is a slight bother
> to look things up when the fault is not mine. Now who is crotchety? <g>

Would you care to tell me what context I removed by snipping other parts
of your post, or is that also 'obvious'?

> Interesting that you cannot see my point. What can I remember.... 
> erm... o yes... in answer to a criticism you were rude, you said a 
> totally irrelevant thing, namely that you were responding to someone!
> It is irrelevant because it does not address the criticism at all. And
> it is the bleeding obvious because that's what people do in usenet, 
> respond to things said.
> 
> I will say it again, it is *interesting* that you cannot see this.

I'm sure a great deal is "interesting" to you, and as much as I'd love
to stay here while you theorise on some subtext my words are supposed to
have had, I have... pretty much _anything_ else to do.

-- 
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