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  Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-08 00:49 +0200
    Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-07 18:42 -0600
      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:05 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-08 02:28 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-08 13:49 +1100
            Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-10 16:26 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-11 06:39 +1100
          Re: Newsreaders billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-08 04:04 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-08 14:23 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 16:26 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-08 19:25 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 20:59 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 02:03 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 02:26 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-09 02:05 +0100
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 02:06 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 02:25 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 17:05 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-08 03:34 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 16:27 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 00:24 -0600
      Re: Newsreaders me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-08 16:12 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 15:21 -0600
          Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 20:01 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-08 18:09 -0700
              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:48 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 20:51 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-02-28 12:19 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 01:40 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:50 -0600
      Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 19:26 +0200
        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 17:31 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-11 21:35 +0200
            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-11 23:30 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-12 01:06 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-12 01:13 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-12 17:03 -0500
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-12 22:25 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-12 17:37 -0500
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-13 15:10 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-13 15:45 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-13 16:58 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-14 21:58 +0200
        Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 23:22 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 23:44 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 02:01 +0100
          Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 10:00 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 13:27 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 09:51 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 18:55 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-11 23:28 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-09 19:40 -0600
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-10 04:34 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-10 23:41 -0600
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-11 16:23 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 19:02 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 13:25 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:04 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-08 03:33 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders RonTheGuy@null.invalid (Ron) - 2014-02-07 19:47 -0800
      Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2014-02-09 09:42 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 11:02 +0100
        Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 11:02 +0100
          Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2014-02-09 16:27 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:50 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 16:19 +0200
    Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:53 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-09 11:06 +0100
        Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 12:18 +0100

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#20999 — Re: Newsreaders

In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
 Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on Mavericks? 

MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion 
6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|

-- 
Matti Haveri <mattiDOThaveriATgmailDOTeiroskaaDOTcom> remove ei roskaa

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#21001

On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:49:03 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> 
wrote:
> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on 
>> Mavericks?
>
> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion 
> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|

Not the solution for the average user.  ;-)  I have gone to using slrn 
with nano as an editor in Terminal.  Not as elegant as MTNW, I grant 
you, but it gets the job done.  Usenet has declined so much that I can't 
justify paying for an NNTP client.  The S/N ratio has become truly 
atrocious.  slrn's scoring weeds almost all of the spam out with a few 
elegant rules, though, so I appreciate that.

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#21003

On 2014-02-08, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:49:03 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> 
> wrote:
>> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>
>>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on 
>>> Mavericks?
>>
>> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion 
>> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|
>
> Not the solution for the average user.  ;-)  I have gone to using slrn 
> with nano as an editor in Terminal.  Not as elegant as MTNW, I grant 
> you, but it gets the job done.  Usenet has declined so much that I can't 
> justify paying for an NNTP client.  The S/N ratio has become truly 
> atrocious.  slrn's scoring weeds almost all of the spam out with a few 
> elegant rules, though, so I appreciate that.

Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#21004

On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:49:03 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on
>>>> Mavericks?
>>>
>>> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion
>>> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|
>>
>> Not the solution for the average user.  ;-)  I have gone to using slrn
>> with nano as an editor in Terminal.  Not as elegant as MTNW, I grant
>> you, but it gets the job done.  Usenet has declined so much that I can't
>> justify paying for an NNTP client.  The S/N ratio has become truly
>> atrocious.  slrn's scoring weeds almost all of the spam out with a few
>> elegant rules, though, so I appreciate that.
>
> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.

Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.

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#21005

In article <bllj20Fd2teU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On 2014-02-08, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:49:03 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on
> >>>> Mavericks?
> >>>
> >>> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion
> >>> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|
> >>
> >> Not the solution for the average user.  ;-)  I have gone to using slrn
> >> with nano as an editor in Terminal.  Not as elegant as MTNW, I grant
> >> you, but it gets the job done.  Usenet has declined so much that I can't
> >> justify paying for an NNTP client.  The S/N ratio has become truly
> >> atrocious.  slrn's scoring weeds almost all of the spam out with a few
> >> elegant rules, though, so I appreciate that.
> >
> > Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
> 
> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.

Me, I'm comfortable with Snow Leopard, MT-NW and a bed consisting of a 
mattress on milk crates, a car whose seats go right back carrying a 
pillow that can be put across the protrudent central gear and 
handbrake (the legs can then be comfortably rested across the driving 
seat to the feet area of the passenger section) and a smaller pillow 
that is perfect for the neck/head for a snooze.

-- 
dorayme

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#21061

dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
.
> 
> Me, I'm comfortable with Snow Leopard, MT-NW and a bed consisting of a 
> mattress on milk crates, a car whose seats go right back carrying a 
> pillow that can be put across the protrudent central gear and 
> handbrake (the legs can then be comfortably rested across the driving 
> seat to the feet area of the passenger section) and a smaller pillow 
> that is perfect for the neck/head for a snooze.

My car is long enough to sleep front to back with a foam mattress I used
for camping, though I've never actually done it, just figured it out when
setting up camp for a weekend event was getting to be too much. I wimped
out and now use motels with wi-fi, showers, and better shelter in
thunderstorms 8-).  However, I'm still happy with MTNW and 10.6.8 .

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#21063

In article <ldaujv$vsv$1@dont-email.me>,
 Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> .
> > 
> > Me, I'm comfortable with Snow Leopard, MT-NW and a bed consisting of a 
> > mattress on milk crates, a car whose seats go right back carrying a 
> > pillow that can be put across the protrudent central gear and 
> > handbrake (the legs can then be comfortably rested across the driving 
> > seat to the feet area of the passenger section) and a smaller pillow 
> > that is perfect for the neck/head for a snooze.
> 
> My car is long enough to sleep front to back with a foam mattress I used
> for camping, though I've never actually done it, just figured it out when
> setting up camp for a weekend event was getting to be too much. I wimped
> out and now use motels with wi-fi, showers, and better shelter in
> thunderstorms 8-).  However, I'm still happy with MTNW and 10.6.8 .

In the late 60's I had VW beetles, if you left the back of the back 
seats at home you could camp by unclipping the backs of the front 
seats off (they were not bolted) and sticking them under the car. With 
a couple of tabletop rectangles over the front seats and a rolled out 
mattress, hey presto a double bed and you could see the stars through 
the back window! <g>

But I agree, me too with motels and hotels these days!

-- 
dorayme

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#21009

Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> writes, quoting
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> on slrn:

> > Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
> 
> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.

The author of slrn, John Davis, also writes a damn good text editor
(jed).  It's a character cell terminal program only, though.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#21015

In message <ld4acp$lmc$1@reader2.panix.com> 
  billy@MIX.COM <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
> Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> writes, quoting
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> on slrn:

>> > Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>> 
>> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.

> The author of slrn, John Davis, also writes a damn good text editor
> (jed).  It's a character cell terminal program only, though.

Ah, I didn't know jed was by him. I'll have to take a look at it (though
ever CLI editor seems to suffer froma  fatal flaw for me, they're not
vim :)

-- 
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#21019

On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-08, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:49:03 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on
>>>>> Mavericks?
>>>>
>>>> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion
>>>> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|
>>>
>>> Not the solution for the average user.  ;-)  I have gone to using slrn
>>> with nano as an editor in Terminal.  Not as elegant as MTNW, I grant
>>> you, but it gets the job done.  Usenet has declined so much that I can't
>>> justify paying for an NNTP client.  The S/N ratio has become truly
>>> atrocious.  slrn's scoring weeds almost all of the spam out with a few
>>> elegant rules, though, so I appreciate that.
>>
>> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>
> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.

You mean the TextWrangler "edit" command-line tool? Doesn't that force
you to switch between the Terminal application and TextWrangler whenever
you want to view or create a message? I'm not sure I would like that
context switch.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#21023

On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

[snip]

>>>
>>> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>>
>> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.
>
> You mean the TextWrangler "edit" command-line tool? Doesn't that force
> you to switch between the Terminal application and TextWrangler whenever
> you want to view or create a message? I'm not sure I would like that
> context switch.
>
With TextWrangler's command-line tool installed I simply set
    setenv EDITOR "/usr/bin/edit -w"
    setenv SLRN_EDITOR '/usr/bin/edit -w "%s"'
    setenv SLANG_EDITOR '/usr/bin/edit -w "%s"'
in my .tcshrc file (I know, I should be using bash but old habits are
hard to break).

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#21025

On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>>>
>>>> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>>>
>>> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.
>>
>> You mean the TextWrangler "edit" command-line tool? Doesn't that force
>> you to switch between the Terminal application and TextWrangler whenever
>> you want to view or create a message? I'm not sure I would like that
>> context switch.
>>
> With TextWrangler's command-line tool installed I simply set
>     setenv EDITOR "/usr/bin/edit -w"
>     setenv SLRN_EDITOR '/usr/bin/edit -w "%s"'
>     setenv SLANG_EDITOR '/usr/bin/edit -w "%s"'
> in my .tcshrc file (I know, I should be using bash but old habits are
> hard to break).

Sure. My question was about switching between Terminal and
TextWrangler...

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#21032

On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>>>>
>>>> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.
>>>
>>> You mean the TextWrangler "edit" command-line tool? Doesn't that force
>>> you to switch between the Terminal application and TextWrangler whenever
>>> you want to view or create a message? I'm not sure I would like that
>>> context switch.
>>>
>> With TextWrangler's command-line tool installed I simply set
>>     setenv EDITOR "/usr/bin/edit -w"
>>     setenv SLRN_EDITOR '/usr/bin/edit -w "%s"'
>>     setenv SLANG_EDITOR '/usr/bin/edit -w "%s"'
>> in my .tcshrc file (I know, I should be using bash but old habits are
>> hard to break).
>
> Sure. My question was about switching between Terminal and
> TextWrangler...

What switch? I followup or post and TW opens the quoted article.
I enter my text, save and close the window and I'm back in slrn with a request
to verify my desire to post.

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#21035

On 2014-02-09, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.
>>>>
>>>> You mean the TextWrangler "edit" command-line tool? Doesn't that force
>>>> you to switch between the Terminal application and TextWrangler whenever
>>>> you want to view or create a message? I'm not sure I would like that
>>>> context switch.
>>>>
>>> With TextWrangler's command-line tool installed I simply set
>>>     setenv EDITOR "/usr/bin/edit -w"
>>>     setenv SLRN_EDITOR '/usr/bin/edit -w "%s"'
>>>     setenv SLANG_EDITOR '/usr/bin/edit -w "%s"'
>>> in my .tcshrc file (I know, I should be using bash but old habits are
>>> hard to break).
>>
>> Sure. My question was about switching between Terminal and
>> TextWrangler...
>
> What switch? I followup or post and TW opens the quoted article.
> I enter my text, save and close the window and I'm back in slrn with a request
> to verify my desire to post.

Yes, that's what I was asking about. Thanks.

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E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#21029

On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-02-08, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:49:03 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on
>>>>>> Mavericks?
>>>>>
>>>>> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion
>>>>> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|
>>>>
>>>> Not the solution for the average user.  ;-)  I have gone to using slrn
>>>> with nano as an editor in Terminal.  Not as elegant as MTNW, I grant
>>>> you, but it gets the job done.  Usenet has declined so much that I can't
>>>> justify paying for an NNTP client.  The S/N ratio has become truly
>>>> atrocious.  slrn's scoring weeds almost all of the spam out with a few
>>>> elegant rules, though, so I appreciate that.
>>>
>>> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>>
>> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.
>
> You mean the TextWrangler "edit" command-line tool? Doesn't that force
> you to switch between the Terminal application and TextWrangler whenever
> you want to view or create a message? I'm not sure I would like that
> context switch.

Try it yourself and see.  At no stage do you need to click between TW and
slrn windows to effect the switch in control.

In  .slrnrc

    set editor_command "edit --wait --resume +%d '%s'"

the --wait and --resume combination means that when you do a post or
followup you get a new TW window.

cmd-S and cmd-W when you are done puts you straight back at the slrn confirm
posting prompt.

I also have

    set abort_unmodified_edits 1

so that on an editor exit without writing any changes slrn quits the posting.

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#21033

On 2014-02-09, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2014-02-08, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:49:03 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on
>>>>>>> Mavericks?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion
>>>>>> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|
>>>>>
>>>>> Not the solution for the average user.  ;-)  I have gone to using slrn
>>>>> with nano as an editor in Terminal.  Not as elegant as MTNW, I grant
>>>>> you, but it gets the job done.  Usenet has declined so much that I can't
>>>>> justify paying for an NNTP client.  The S/N ratio has become truly
>>>>> atrocious.  slrn's scoring weeds almost all of the spam out with a few
>>>>> elegant rules, though, so I appreciate that.
>>>>
>>>> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>>>
>>> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.
>>
>> You mean the TextWrangler "edit" command-line tool? Doesn't that force
>> you to switch between the Terminal application and TextWrangler whenever
>> you want to view or create a message? I'm not sure I would like that
>> context switch.
>
> Try it yourself and see.  At no stage do you need to click between TW and
> slrn windows to effect the switch in control.
>
> In  .slrnrc
>
>     set editor_command "edit --wait --resume +%d '%s'"
>
> the --wait and --resume combination means that when you do a post or
> followup you get a new TW window.
>
> cmd-S and cmd-W when you are done puts you straight back at the slrn confirm
> posting prompt.
>
> I also have
>
>     set abort_unmodified_edits 1
>
> so that on an editor exit without writing any changes slrn quits the posting.

Thanks, just what I was looking for.

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#21034

On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-08, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:49:03 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on
>>>>> Mavericks?
>>>>
>>>> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion
>>>> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|
>>>
>>> Not the solution for the average user.  ;-)  I have gone to using slrn
>>> with nano as an editor in Terminal.  Not as elegant as MTNW, I grant
>>> you, but it gets the job done.  Usenet has declined so much that I can't
>>> justify paying for an NNTP client.  The S/N ratio has become truly
>>> atrocious.  slrn's scoring weeds almost all of the spam out with a few
>>> elegant rules, though, so I appreciate that.
>>
>> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>
> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.

Now that I think about it, this won't work for me, since I run slrn on a
single machine, which I SSH into from multiple locations. So
command-line or bust for me.

Still, thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

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#21049

In message <blo79dFu3pmU1@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-02-08, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:49:03 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on
>>>>>> Mavericks?
>>>>>
>>>>> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion
>>>>> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|
>>>>
>>>> Not the solution for the average user.  ;-)  I have gone to using slrn
>>>> with nano as an editor in Terminal.  Not as elegant as MTNW, I grant
>>>> you, but it gets the job done.  Usenet has declined so much that I can't
>>>> justify paying for an NNTP client.  The S/N ratio has become truly
>>>> atrocious.  slrn's scoring weeds almost all of the spam out with a few
>>>> elegant rules, though, so I appreciate that.
>>>
>>> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>>
>> Me too but while I'm comfortable with VI, I prefer TextWrangler.

> Now that I think about it, this won't work for me, since I run slrn on a
> single machine, which I SSH into from multiple locations. So
> command-line or bust for me.

I used to do that. Now I run slrn locally on each machine, but store all
of slrn's files on Dropbox, so it's the name file.

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#21007

In message <bllhn5FcrlrU2@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-08, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:49:03 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> 
>> wrote:
>>> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on 
>>>> Mavericks?
>>>
>>> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion 
>>> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|
>>
>> Not the solution for the average user.  ;-)  I have gone to using slrn 
>> with nano as an editor in Terminal.  Not as elegant as MTNW, I grant 
>> you, but it gets the job done.  Usenet has declined so much that I can't 
>> justify paying for an NNTP client.  The S/N ratio has become truly 
>> atrocious.  slrn's scoring weeds almost all of the spam out with a few 
>> elegant rules, though, so I appreciate that.

> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.

vim or BBEdit for me.

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#21020

On 2014-02-08, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <bllhn5FcrlrU2@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-08, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:49:03 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on 
>>>>> Mavericks?
>>>>
>>>> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion 
>>>> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|
>>>
>>> Not the solution for the average user.  ;-)  I have gone to using slrn 
>>> with nano as an editor in Terminal.  Not as elegant as MTNW, I grant 
>>> you, but it gets the job done.  Usenet has declined so much that I can't 
>>> justify paying for an NNTP client.  The S/N ratio has become truly 
>>> atrocious.  slrn's scoring weeds almost all of the spam out with a few 
>>> elegant rules, though, so I appreciate that.
>
>> Same here, but with vi, which I'm perfectly comfortable with.
>
> vim or BBEdit for me.

I meant vim. : )

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