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  iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:35 -0600
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-25 18:06 -0800
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-26 14:05 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:15 -0600
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 12:40 +0000
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 21:15 -0500
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 15:08 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 23:05 +0000
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-26 18:10 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:40 -0800
                  Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 19:25 -0600
                    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 01:52 +0000
                      Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-27 19:14 -0600
                        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 01:28 +0000
                    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-26 20:30 -0800
                      Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 06:41 -0500
                        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 14:56 +0000
                        Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-27 08:01 -0800
                      Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-27 19:12 -0600
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 14:56 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 15:39 +0000
                  Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 22:50 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-26 08:51 -0700
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:11 -0600
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-26 16:27 -0700
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-27 08:19 -0800
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:10 -0600
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-26 13:16 -0800
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 16:38 -0500
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:08 -0600
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 12:40 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( W^3 <82ndAve@comcast.net> - 2014-01-30 23:22 -0800
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-31 03:11 -0800
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-31 21:42 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-31 16:33 -0800
                  Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-01 16:30 +0000
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:34 +0000
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 02:44 +0000
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 15:06 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-26 07:28 -0800
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:07 -0600
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:38 -0500
                  Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 06:20 -0500
                  Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500
                    Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 17:20 -0500
                      Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 18:33 -0500
                        Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-28 10:03 -0500
                          Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:36 -0500
                    Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-02-08 10:40 -0500
                      Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 12:54 -0500
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:05 -0600
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:38 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500

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#20753

On 1/27/14   PDT, 3:41 AM, M. John Matlaw wrote:

> So this helped a lot.  I hadn't figured out about adding and subtracting
> columns from the headers in the Song category.  But with an iPod (Touch
> 4th gen, IOS 6) I haven't figured out how to play an album in track
> order.  It seems to be randomizing the order.  I was hoping that
> switching to the Song category on the iPod would give me the same
> options that exist in iTunes on the computer but the ability to sort
> isn't there.  Does one really have to muck with playlists to play an
> album in track order on an iPod?

No. Set the view in iTunes to Album View, and next time you synch, 
tracks should be in order on your iPod.

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#20775

In article <mysisa82t0.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>,
 Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu 
 <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:

> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> writes:
> 
> > In article <myiot6qply.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>,
> >  Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu 
> >  <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Sounds like she has "Show Artwork" selected from the View menu, with 
> > > > the size slider set to large.
> > > 
> > > Yes.  Go to the View menu, select Show View Options, and uncheck Show
> > > Artwork near the top.
> > 
> > I did that before. It works for "Songs", but not for albums, artist, or 
> > anything else
> 
> It also works for Playlists, not just Songs.  And under Artists and
> Genres, you can make the album artwork relatively small via the slider
> in the View Options.
> 
> > and it has all that stuff in the way at the top instead 
> > of being a selectable column with up and down triangles.
> 
> What stuff in the way??  
> 
> Under Music/Songs or Music/Playlists, I can click on the various
> columns (Name, Kind, Artist, ...) to sort forward or backward by those
> columns.
> 
> I don't like having the album covers waste so much space either, but
> at least under Songs and Playlists you can avoid them, and in the
> other lists you can shrink them.  And you can sort Music/Songs by
> Album, giving you a list view sorted by, uh, albums.
> 
> I too would prefer to have a list view available for the Albums
> display itself but c'est la vie.
> 
> Martin

I've only been able to shrink them in a couple places, but I did finally 
get rid of the other stuff in my way in Songs.  I have that and 
Playlists under control and I got my books and apps straightened out, 
too.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#20748

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-01-26, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Click "Music" on the left side bar, then click the "Songs" tab at the
>>> top. Presto - full multi-column listing of all of your music. If you
>>> choose View > Column Browser from the menu bar, you can hide/show the
>>> column browser as well. 
>>> 
>> No, it gives me monster graphics of album covers or gray square the same
>> soze with bits of list  even for single songs.
>> Why should i embrace waste space?
> 
> Show me a screen shot then. 
> 
> For me, Music > Songs displays a multi-column listing of all songs
> similar to this:
> 
> <http://www.macobserver.com/imgs/tmo_articles/20121129itunes11songlistsidebar_large.jpg>

I don't know how to link a screen shot to a newsgroup. Gap in what
expertise I have 8-). That's what I need this group for 8-)

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#20750

On 2014-01-27, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-01-26, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Click "Music" on the left side bar, then click the "Songs" tab at the
>>>> top. Presto - full multi-column listing of all of your music. If you
>>>> choose View > Column Browser from the menu bar, you can hide/show the
>>>> column browser as well. 
>>>> 
>>> No, it gives me monster graphics of album covers or gray square the same
>>> soze with bits of list  even for single songs.
>>> Why should i embrace waste space?
>> 
>> Show me a screen shot then. 
>> 
>> For me, Music > Songs displays a multi-column listing of all songs
>> similar to this:
>> 
>> <http://www.macobserver.com/imgs/tmo_articles/20121129itunes11songlistsidebar_large.jpg>
>
> I don't know how to link a screen shot to a newsgroup. Gap in what
> expertise I have 8-). That's what I need this group for 8-)

How To Post Screen Shots To Newsgroups

You can post a screenshot link using a service like ImageShack.
ImageShack is an easy-to-use free media hosting service. It can be used
to upload images. Registration is not required in order to upload files.

1. On your keyboard, press Command-Shift-4.
2. On your keyboard, press the space bar.
3. Click the window you want. A picture file will appear on the desktop.
4. Go to <http://imageshack.us/> or <http://tinypic.com>.
5. Click Browse, then navigate to and select the picture file.
6. Click "Upload Now".
7. Paste the "Direct link to image" URL in a newsgroup message.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#20769

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-01-27, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-01-26, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Click "Music" on the left side bar, then click the "Songs" tab at the
>>>>> top. Presto - full multi-column listing of all of your music. If you
>>>>> choose View > Column Browser from the menu bar, you can hide/show the
>>>>> column browser as well. 
>>>>> 
>>>> No, it gives me monster graphics of album covers or gray square the same
>>>> soze with bits of list  even for single songs.
>>>> Why should i embrace waste space?
>>> 
>>> Show me a screen shot then. 
>>> 
>>> For me, Music > Songs displays a multi-column listing of all songs
>>> similar to this:
>>> 
>>> <http://www.macobserver.com/imgs/tmo_articles/20121129itunes11songlistsidebar_large.jpg>
>> 
>> I don't know how to link a screen shot to a newsgroup. Gap in what
>> expertise I have 8-). That's what I need this group for 8-)
> 
> How To Post Screen Shots To Newsgroups
> 
> You can post a screenshot link using a service like ImageShack.
> ImageShack is an easy-to-use free media hosting service. It can be used
> to upload images. Registration is not required in order to upload files.
> 
> 1. On your keyboard, press Command-Shift-4.
> 2. On your keyboard, press the space bar.
> 3. Click the window you want. A picture file will appear on the desktop.
> 4. Go to <http://imageshack.us/> or <http://tinypic.com>.
> 5. Click Browse, then navigate to and select the picture file.
> 6. Click "Upload Now".
> 7. Paste the "Direct link to image" URL in a newsgroup message.

Thanks! I just saved this(well, mailed it to my laptop).  I think I've
found every list choice in 11 by now, but I have to go back tothe laptop
again to look.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#20708

In article <lc346l$j5u$6@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> Oh, I found that, but it's only partly there. There is more junk, but no
> simple list of all my music.  Everything has to be done a column at a time
> by playlists, apparently.

without the sidebar:  At the far left, just below the play controls is
a popup menu; choose "Music" from it.  To its right is a horizontal
listing, the second of which is "Music"; click it.  You should now see
a list of all your music.

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#20717

In article <260120140851117816%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <lc346l$j5u$6@dont-email.me>, Erilar
> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> 
> > Oh, I found that, but it's only partly there. There is more junk, but no
> > simple list of all my music.  Everything has to be done a column at a time
> > by playlists, apparently.
> 
> without the sidebar:  At the far left, just below the play controls is
> a popup menu; choose "Music" from it.  To its right is a horizontal
> listing, the second of which is "Music"; click it.  You should now see
> a list of all your music.

No, I see a page full of album covers.  That is not a list.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#20726

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <lc346l$j5u$6@dont-email.me>, Erilar
> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> 
>> Oh, I found that, but it's only partly there. There is more junk, but no
>> simple list of all my music.  Everything has to be done a column at a time
>> by playlists, apparently.
> 
> without the sidebar:  At the far left, just below the play controls is
> a popup menu; choose "Music" from it.  To its right is a horizontal
> listing, the second of which is "Music"; click it.  You should now see
> a list of all your music.

In bits and pieces, spread out by meaningless gray blobs and album covers
for even single songs.
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#20730

In article <lc422d$ffc$4@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> >> Oh, I found that, but it's only partly there. There is more junk,
> >> but no simple list of all my music.  Everything has to be done a
> >> column at a time by playlists, apparently.
> > 
> > without the sidebar:  At the far left, just below the play controls
> > is a popup menu; choose "Music" from it.  To its right is a
> > horizontal listing, the second of which is "Music"; click it.  You
> > should now see a list of all your music.
> 
> In bits and pieces, spread out by meaningless gray blobs and album
> covers for even single songs.

The View Options dialog lets you choose whether to show album covers or
not.  If you don't want to display the album covers, turn off that
option.  That should also remove the grey blobs.

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#20756

On 1/26/14   PDT, 3:27 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <lc422d$ffc$4@dont-email.me>, Erilar
> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>
>>>> Oh, I found that, but it's only partly there. There is more junk,
>>>> but no simple list of all my music.  Everything has to be done a
>>>> column at a time by playlists, apparently.
>>>
>>> without the sidebar:  At the far left, just below the play controls
>>> is a popup menu; choose "Music" from it.  To its right is a
>>> horizontal listing, the second of which is "Music"; click it.  You
>>> should now see a list of all your music.
>>
>> In bits and pieces, spread out by meaningless gray blobs and album
>> covers for even single songs.
>
> The View Options dialog lets you choose whether to show album covers or
> not.  If you don't want to display the album covers, turn off that
> option.  That should also remove the grey blobs.

I do not see that option in my iTunes, excepting when Song View is 
selected, Michelle, just a couple of ways to order display in Albums and 
the other views.

Erilar: What works for me is to always select "Songs", after turning off 
show covers under Song->View Options. Then sort by Albums within that list.

If you don't show Albums, hold down Control key while clicking in any 
column header, then select Album.

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#20712

In article <lc346l$j5u$6@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> > turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.
> > 
> > i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.
> 
> Oh, I found that, but it's only partly there. There is more junk, but no
> simple list of all my music.  Everything has to be done a column at a time
> by playlists, apparently.

once you turn the sidebar back on, it should be about the same as what
you had before.

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#20716

In article <260120141355529529%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <lc346l$j5u$6@dont-email.me>, Erilar
> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> 
> > > turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.
> > > 
> > > i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.
> > 
> > Oh, I found that, but it's only partly there. There is more junk, but no
> > simple list of all my music.  Everything has to be done a column at a time
> > by playlists, apparently.
> 
> once you turn the sidebar back on, it should be about the same as what
> you had before.

I really wish it were.  There are whole areas where I can get nothing 
but album covers(which used to be at the bottom of the playlist if I 
wanted them there), many of which are blank anyway.  My iTunes library 
contains a high percentage of LPs and tapes I converted some time ago.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#20721

In article <drache-A27DCF.14104126012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
 erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <260120141355529529%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > In article <lc346l$j5u$6@dont-email.me>, Erilar
> > <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > 
> > > > turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.
> > > > 
> > > > i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.
> > > 
> > > Oh, I found that, but it's only partly there. There is more junk, but no
> > > simple list of all my music.  Everything has to be done a column at a time
> > > by playlists, apparently.
> > 
> > once you turn the sidebar back on, it should be about the same as what
> > you had before.
> 
> I really wish it were.  There are whole areas where I can get nothing 
> but album covers(which used to be at the bottom of the playlist if I 
> wanted them there), many of which are blank anyway.  My iTunes library 
> contains a high percentage of LPs and tapes I converted some time ago.

Well, you're reticence to change gives you few options at this point.

If your old features are more important that being able to synch to a 
new iPad, wipe your entire system and restore it to before you did your 
iTunes upgrade. Then sell the iPad on eBay.

The interface for the OS and applications will change sometimes between 
upgrades.  Unless you have a need to upgrade (in this case a new iPad), 
you're going to have to have to move through your hesitancy to change to 
embrace and get used to the new things in order to use the new iPad with 
the new iTunes.  Or do without the new things.

Your call.  And it's OK if it's on a rotary phone.  
The phone company still allows that.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#20722

In article <vilain-89A9B0.13164326012014@news.individual.net>, Michael
Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> Your call.  And it's OK if it's on a rotary phone.  
> The phone company still allows that.

not necessarily.

verizon is pushing 'upgrading' your house to digital as part of fios,
which will only work with touchtone phones. rotary phones can only be
used to answer calls.

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#20723

Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <drache-A27DCF.14104126012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> 

> Well, you're reticence to change gives you few options at this point.

I used to be more willing to change when software was reasonably
back-compatible 8-)
It's this new habit of cutting that off  rather abruptly that irritates me
so much.  I had no problems with new tech until pretty recently, but i've
had a series of rather large problems with supposed "up"grades in the last
few years.
On the other hand, I got my ham license before transistors. 

> If your old features are more important that being able to synch to a 
> new iPad, wipe your entire system and restore it to before you did your 
> iTunes upgrade. Then sell the iPad on eBay.

If that were the case I'd never have bought one.
> 
> The interface for the OS and applications will change sometimes between 
> upgrades.  Unless you have a need to upgrade (in this case a new iPad), 
> you're going to have to have to move through your hesitancy to change to 
> embrace and get used to the new things in order to use the new iPad with 
> the new iTunes.  Or do without the new things.
> 
> Your call.  And it's OK if it's on a rotary phone.  
> The phone company still allows that.

oh, my landline has buttons to push, even though it's not new.  Cell phones
don't work well underground, so I only have a stupid one for use away from
home.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#20715

In article <250120142115257957%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
> > It's a mucky mess.  
> > The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
> > to get it back? 
> > It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
> > It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
> > more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
> > the right and I have to scroll to find it.
> > It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
> > but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
> > 
> > My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
> 
> turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.
> 
> i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.

Oh, I found that.  I'm fairly good at poking around.  My complaints are 
more about totally missing features.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#20744

In message <drache-B21326.14082826012014@news.eternal-september.org> 
  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> In article <250120142115257957%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> > I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
>> > It's a mucky mess.  
>> > The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
>> > to get it back? 
>> > It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
>> > It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
>> > more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
>> > the right and I have to scroll to find it.
>> > It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
>> > but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
>> > 
>> > My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
>> 
>> turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.
>> 
>> i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.

> Oh, I found that.  I'm fairly good at poking around.  My complaints are 
> more about totally missing features.

You have yet to name a single missing feature in iTunes 11.

-- 
Oh, no!  Not *ANOTHER* learning experience!

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#20836

In article <slrnleckur.rt4.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <drache-B21326.14082826012014@news.eternal-september.org> 
>   erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <250120142115257957%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> >  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
> >> > It's a mucky mess.  
> >> > The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
> >> > to get it back? 
> >> > It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
> >> > It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
> >> > more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
> >> > the right and I have to scroll to find it.
> >> > It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
> >> > but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
> >> > 
> >> > My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
> >> 
> >> turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.
> >> 
> >> i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.
> 
> > Oh, I found that.  I'm fairly good at poking around.  My complaints are 
> > more about totally missing features.
> 
> You have yet to name a single missing feature in iTunes 11.

Here's one (I would love to be wrong about this): Playlists cannot 
open in another window, and the simplicity of dragging and dropping 
songs into them has been lost.

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#20843

W^3 <82ndAve@comcast.net> writes:

> In article <slrnleckur.rt4.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > In message <drache-B21326.14082826012014@news.eternal-september.org> 
> >   erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > In article <250120142115257957%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> > >  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > >> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > >> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> > I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad
> > >> > Air soon.  It's a mucky mess.  The master music list has
> > >> > vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way to get it
> > >> > back?  It took several tries to find where my playlists were
> > >> > hidden.  It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of
> > >> > the playlists any more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most
> > >> > of my info is hidden off to the right and I have to scroll to
> > >> > find it.  It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to
> > >> > read with monsterview, but I finally managed to defeat that,
> > >> > too.
> > >> > 
> > >> > My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
> > >> 
> > >> turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.
> > >> 
> > >> i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.
> > 
> > > Oh, I found that.  I'm fairly good at poking around.  My complaints are 
> > > more about totally missing features.
> > 
> > You have yet to name a single missing feature in iTunes 11.
> 
> Here's one (I would love to be wrong about this): Playlists cannot 
> open in another window, and the simplicity of dragging and dropping 
> songs into them has been lost.

Yeah, lots of this type of stuff changed.  I'm still finding the new
ways of doing things.

Here's what you can do now, and it probably is an improvement over
opening the playlist in a separate window.  

Go to Music/Playlists.  Select the playlist you want to add to.  Then
click the Add-To icon over on the right margin near the top.  That
will leave your playlist open in a column on the right while showing
your Song list on the left.  Now you can drag and drop from the main
list to the playlist.

Unfortunately, that playlist display insists on showing (small) album
covers, so it takes up more room that it really needs to.

Martin

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#20854

Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid>
wrote:
> W^3 <82ndAve@comcast.net> writes:
> 
>> In article <slrnleckur.rt4.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>>> In message <drache-B21326.14082826012014@news.eternal-september.org> 
>>>   erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In article <250120142115257957%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>>>>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad
>>>>>> Air soon.  It's a mucky mess.  The master music list has
>>>>>> vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way to get it
>>>>>> back?  It took several tries to find where my playlists were
>>>>>> hidden.  It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of
>>>>>> the playlists any more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most
>>>>>> of my info is hidden off to the right and I have to scroll to
>>>>>> find it.  It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to
>>>>>> read with monsterview, but I finally managed to defeat that,
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.
>>>>> 
>>>>> i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.
>>> 
>>>> Oh, I found that.  I'm fairly good at poking around.  My complaints are 
>>>> more about totally missing features.
>>> 
>>> You have yet to name a single missing feature in iTunes 11.
>> 
>> Here's one (I would love to be wrong about this): Playlists cannot 
>> open in another window, and the simplicity of dragging and dropping 
>> songs into them has been lost.
> 
> Yeah, lots of this type of stuff changed.  I'm still finding the new
> ways of doing things.
> 
> Here's what you can do now, and it probably is an improvement over
> opening the playlist in a separate window.  
> 
> Go to Music/Playlists.  Select the playlist you want to add to.  Then
> click the Add-To icon over on the right margin near the top.  That
> will leave your playlist open in a column on the right while showing
> your Song list on the left.  Now you can drag and drop from the main
> list to the playlist.
> 
> Unfortunately, that playlist display insists on showing (small) album
> covers, so it takes up more room that it really needs to.
> 
> Martin

Horrors! Does this mean I can't add a new CD to a playlist wothout all this
rigamarole now?
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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