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  More issues with Mail and Gmail H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> - 2013-10-31 17:58 -0700
    Re: More issues with Mail and Gmail nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2013-10-31 21:46 -0600
      Re: More issues with Mail and Gmail H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> - 2013-11-01 07:17 -0700
        Re: More issues with Mail and Gmail Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-01 07:30 -0700
          Re: More issues with Mail and Gmail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-11-01 10:41 -0400
            Re: More issues with Mail and Gmail Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-01 08:17 -0700
      Re: More issues with Mail and Gmail H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> - 2013-11-01 18:00 -0700
        Re: More issues with Mail and Gmail H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> - 2013-11-02 16:23 -0700
          Re: More issues with Mail and Gmail Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-02 19:54 -0400
            Re: More issues with Mail and Gmail H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> - 2013-11-04 08:38 -0800
              Re: More issues with Mail and Gmail Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-04 11:45 -0500

#19165 — More issues with Mail and Gmail

Had an issue with the Mail app and Gmail a few weeks ago and it resolved itself,
but I've got another issue going on that I'm not sure how to fix.

OS 10.6.8 on a MacBook Pro using Mail version 4.6. I have my Gmail account and
two other SMTP accounts in Mail.

When I get my mail, all the messages from all accounts show up, and I read and
delete as usual in the main Inbox.

However, if I happen to check another mailbox -- for instance, a junk mailbox --
and then go back to the main inbox, the messages I deleted show up again. This
happens even if I delete messages using the Mailbox > Erase Deleted Items
command, for Gmail, "On My Mac" and "In All Accounts."

I have to go to the Gmail site and delete the messages there before they vanish
from my Inbox.

I'm not sure how to fix this. It's annoying as all get out and it didn't used to
behave like that. If I deleted a Gmail message in my Inbox, it stayed deleted.


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#19170

H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> I'm not sure how to fix this. 

If you haven't already, read this: 

<http://tidbits.com/article/10253>

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#19178

In article <1lbmk5k.17l7xly1crilk8N%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello says...
>
>H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure how to fix this. 
>
>If you haven't already, read this: 
>
><http://tidbits.com/article/10253>

I had read that but unless I overlooked something, I didn't see the solution to
this particular problem.


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#19179

In article <l50d6d02o58@drn.newsguy.com>, H.B. Elkins
<hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> In article <1lbmk5k.17l7xly1crilk8N%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello
> says...
> >
> >H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not sure how to fix this. 
> >
> >If you haven't already, read this: 
> >
> ><http://tidbits.com/article/10253>
> 
> I had read that but unless I overlooked something, I didn't see the
> solution to this particular problem.

Apple has released an update of mail.app to appleseed developers for
testing as a result of this problem.

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#19180

In article <011120130730585278%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <l50d6d02o58@drn.newsguy.com>, H.B. Elkins
> <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1lbmk5k.17l7xly1crilk8N%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello
> > says...
> > >
> > >H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm not sure how to fix this. 
> > >
> > >If you haven't already, read this: 
> > >
> > ><http://tidbits.com/article/10253>
> > 
> > I had read that but unless I overlooked something, I didn't see the
> > solution to this particular problem.
> 
> Apple has released an update of mail.app to appleseed developers for
> testing as a result of this problem.

That's not likely to help him, since he's still on Snow Leopard.

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#19183

In article <barmar-7CC2B5.10414901112013@news.eternal-september.org>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> > > >> I'm not sure how to fix this. 
> > > >
> > > >If you haven't already, read this: 
> > > >
> > > ><http://tidbits.com/article/10253>
> > > 
> > > I had read that but unless I overlooked something, I didn't see the
> > > solution to this particular problem.
> > 
> > Apple has released an update of mail.app to appleseed developers for
> > testing as a result of this problem.
> 
> That's not likely to help him, since he's still on Snow Leopard.

Oh.  I didn't back read, and thought the thread was about the current
problem with Mavericks and GMail.

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#19192

In article <1lbmk5k.17l7xly1crilk8N%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello says...
>
>H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure how to fix this. 
>
>If you haven't already, read this: 
>
><http://tidbits.com/article/10253>

Update: I tried the "Use this Mailbox for..." tip and it may have worked. Don't
know why this problem just manifested itself recently when I had been using Mail
and Gmail without issues for a few years.


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#19211

In article <l51iqs01ivi@drn.newsguy.com>, H.B. Elkins says...
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>In article <1lbmk5k.17l7xly1crilk8N%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello says...
>>
>>H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure how to fix this. 
>>
>>If you haven't already, read this: 
>>
>><http://tidbits.com/article/10253>
>
>Update: I tried the "Use this Mailbox for..." tip and it may have worked. Don't
>know why this problem just manifested itself recently when I had been using Mail
>and Gmail without issues for a few years.

Actually, it didn't work. Back to square one. Grrrr....

I would really prefer not to have to use the Gmail website or my iDevices to
read and delete messages when Mail on my MacBook Pro used to work just fine.


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#19213

On 11-02-2013, 19:23, H.B. Elkins wrote:
> In article <l51iqs01ivi@drn.newsguy.com>, H.B. Elkins says...
>>
>> In article <1lbmk5k.17l7xly1crilk8N%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello says...
>>>
>>> H.B. Elkins <hbekins@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure how to fix this.
>>>
>>> If you haven't already, read this:
>>>
>>> <http://tidbits.com/article/10253>
>>
>> Update: I tried the "Use this Mailbox for..." tip and it may have worked. Don't
>> know why this problem just manifested itself recently when I had been using Mail
>> and Gmail without issues for a few years.
>
> Actually, it didn't work. Back to square one. Grrrr....
>
> I would really prefer not to have to use the Gmail website or my iDevices to
> read and delete messages when Mail on my MacBook Pro used to work just fine.

I posted earlier that my Mail had no new problems.  But after a while, I 
realized that certain messages show up on the iPad but not on the desktop.

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will make violent revolution inevitable.
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#19221

In article <l543bh$4i0$2@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau says...

>I posted earlier that my Mail had no new problems.  But after a while, I 
>realized that certain messages show up on the iPad but not on the desktop.

What appears to be happening is that when I delete a message in Mail, it does
not get flagged to be deleted (moved to Trash) on Gmail's server. So when I go
back to the inbox in Mail, the deleted messages reappear. If I go onto the Gmail
site and delete them there, they no longer show up in the inbox in Mail.

And if I delete a bunch of unread messages on the Gmail site, they will show up
as unread messages in the trash in Mail.


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#19223

On 11-04-2013, 11:38, H.B. Elkins wrote:
> In article <l543bh$4i0$2@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau says...
>> I posted earlier that my Mail had no new problems.  But after a while, I
>> realized that certain messages show up on the iPad but not on the desktop.
>
> What appears to be happening is that when I delete a message in Mail, it does
> not get flagged to be deleted (moved to Trash) on Gmail's server. So when I go
> back to the inbox in Mail, the deleted messages reappear. If I go onto the Gmail
> site and delete them there, they no longer show up in the inbox in Mail.
>
> And if I delete a bunch of unread messages on the Gmail site, they will show up
> as unread messages in the trash in Mail.

That one has never happened to me.  But I get e-mails about things that 
happen on a support site for webtrees (software).  Since 10.9, I no 
longer get those on the Mac, but I still get them on the iPad.

Everything else in mail seems to be working the same as before (which 
wasn't anything for Apple or Google to brag about).

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