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  Safari prefs not showing and crashing dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-25 22:45 +1000
    Re: Safari prefs not showing and crashing Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-25 06:17 -0700
      Re: Safari prefs not showing and crashing Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 19:35 +0100
        Re: Safari prefs not showing and crashing dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-26 11:24 +1000
          Re: Safari prefs not showing and crashing billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-26 01:59 +0000
            Re: Safari prefs not showing and crashing dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-26 12:26 +1000
              Re: Safari prefs not showing and crashing dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-26 12:47 +1000
    Re: Safari prefs not showing and crashing dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-26 15:11 +1200
      Re: Safari prefs not showing and crashing dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-26 14:26 +1000

#23738 — Safari prefs not showing and crashing

Since I used a combo latest update for Snow Leopard to fix a corrupted 
App Store App, my Safari is not able to get Preferences from under the 
Safari menu. Nothing happens the first time. The second time I click 
the Preferences command, Safari quits suddenly/crashes. This is a 
repeatable phenomenon on my MB at the moment.

I have many other good browsers but am not quite ready to give up on 
Safari or Snow Leopard. Software Update under the Apple menu reports 
none available (I have the latest and it is not being updated beyond 
this for this OS). Disk Utility reports no problems. The only new 
software bought for the last week has been 'Media Inspector'.

Any suggestions besides redoing an update?

-- 
dorayme

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#23739

On 2014-07-25 12:45:31 +0000, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> said:

> Since I used a combo latest update for Snow Leopard to fix a corrupted
> App Store App, my Safari is not able to get Preferences from under the
> Safari menu. Nothing happens the first time. The second time I click
> the Preferences command, Safari quits suddenly/crashes. This is a
> repeatable phenomenon on my MB at the moment.
> 
> I have many other good browsers but am not quite ready to give up on
> Safari or Snow Leopard. Software Update under the Apple menu reports
> none available (I have the latest and it is not being updated beyond
> this for this OS). Disk Utility reports no problems. The only new
> software bought for the last week has been 'Media Inspector'.
> 
> Any suggestions besides redoing an update?

You might try trashing your Safari preferences .plist file(s), as that 
seems to be where your problem lies.

So, quit Safari, then go to Users(you)->Library->Preferences, locate 
(com.apple.Safari.plist) and move it to the trash. You might need to do 
the same for com.apple.Safari.RSS.plist & 
com.apple.Safari.Extensions.plist.

Re-open Safari and test drive.

Good luck.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#23740

On 2014-07-25 13:17:25 +0000, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:

> On 2014-07-25 12:45:31 +0000, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> said:
> 
>> Since I used a combo latest update for Snow Leopard to fix a corrupted
>> App Store App, my Safari is not able to get Preferences from under the
>> Safari menu. Nothing happens the first time. The second time I click
>> the Preferences command, Safari quits suddenly/crashes. This is a
>> repeatable phenomenon on my MB at the moment.
>> 
>> I have many other good browsers but am not quite ready to give up on
>> Safari or Snow Leopard. Software Update under the Apple menu reports
>> none available (I have the latest and it is not being updated beyond
>> this for this OS). Disk Utility reports no problems. The only new
>> software bought for the last week has been 'Media Inspector'.
>> 
>> Any suggestions besides redoing an update?
> 
> You might try trashing your Safari preferences .plist file(s), as that 
> seems to be where your problem lies.
> 
> So, quit Safari, then go to Users(you)->Library->Preferences, locate 
> (com.apple.Safari.plist) and move it to the trash. You might need to do 
> the same for com.apple.Safari.RSS.plist & 
> com.apple.Safari.Extensions.plist.
> 
> Re-open Safari and test drive.
> 
> Good luck.

Any better using the prefs shortcut (cmd+,)?

Cheers ... Mark

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#23748

In article <lqu81q$kno$1@dont-email.me>,
 Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-25 13:17:25 +0000, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> 
> said:
> 
> > On 2014-07-25 12:45:31 +0000, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> said:
> > 
> >> Since I used a combo latest update for Snow Leopard to fix a corrupted
> >> App Store App, my Safari is not able to get Preferences from under the
> >> Safari menu. Nothing happens the first time. The second time I click
> >> the Preferences command, Safari quits suddenly/crashes. This is a
> >> repeatable phenomenon on my MB at the moment.
> >> 
> >> I have many other good browsers but am not quite ready to give up on
> >> Safari or Snow Leopard. Software Update under the Apple menu reports
> >> none available (I have the latest and it is not being updated beyond
> >> this for this OS). Disk Utility reports no problems. The only new
> >> software bought for the last week has been 'Media Inspector'.
> >> 
> >> Any suggestions besides redoing an update?
> > 
> > You might try trashing your Safari preferences .plist file(s), as that 
> > seems to be where your problem lies.
> > 
> > So, quit Safari, then go to Users(you)->Library->Preferences, locate 
> > (com.apple.Safari.plist) and move it to the trash. You might need to do 
> > the same for com.apple.Safari.RSS.plist & 
> > com.apple.Safari.Extensions.plist.
> > 
> > Re-open Safari and test drive.
> > 
> > Good luck.
>

Thanks, Savageduck, I have tried trashing all such plists - missing 
was yje extension one you mentioned - but something odd is happening 
which I don't understand. I can get the prefs to show again by 
trashing plists but it gets stuck on the Security panel of the Safari 
prefs and soon after crashes and then back to square one, no prefs 
will show again until I trash the plists again and so on in a circle.

I might try to find the latest combo update for Snow Leopard and try 
that again? Or maybe better would be not the very latest but earlier 
and use Software Update to bring it up to date... 

In the meantime if anyone has any other ideas...


> Any better using the prefs shortcut (cmd+,)?
> 


I tried that, no luck

-- 
dorayme

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#23749

In comp.sys.mac.system dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In the meantime if anyone has any other ideas...

Have you tried just this -

Safari 5.1.10 for Snow Leopard
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1569

Just glancing at the package contents, it looks like
it'll replace everything that could be a problem.

But -- there's a lot more than just preferences files
involved here.  Have you looked around to find all the
Safari/WebKit stuff in the ~/Library dir?  Here there
are bookmarks, history, caches, et cetera.  I'd try
deleting or moving/saving all that first.

Billy Y..
-- 
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#23751

In article <lqv225$25a$1@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote:

> In comp.sys.mac.system dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > In the meantime if anyone has any other ideas...
> 
> Have you tried just this -
> 
> Safari 5.1.10 for Snow Leopard
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1569
> 
> Just glancing at the package contents, it looks like
> it'll replace everything that could be a problem.
> 
> But -- there's a lot more than just preferences files
> involved here.  Have you looked around to find all the
> Safari/WebKit stuff in the ~/Library dir?  Here there
> are bookmarks, history, caches, et cetera.  I'd try
> deleting or moving/saving all that first.
> 

I did trash, earlier, some webkit things in the user prefs but really, 
I probably need a more systematic approach than what I have been 
fooling about with.

I just recently redid the combo update for latest Snow Leopard from 
Apple, and the Safari prefs would not open at all (I had to trash the 
user library pref plist files for it again, that gets me the prefs 
opening in Safari but not the security section).

I have taken a quick look at your url, not sure which things to focus 
on there? Would not the latest 10.6.8 combo updater include the latest 
of everything? My software updater, as it should, says all is up to 
date.

Can't make head nor tail of console Safari crash report? Everything 
else, even Safari (if I don't go near the security tab!) seems to 
work. I might have to change to FF as a main browser and limp along 
till i update to a higher OS!

Damn, I thought my MB was immune to trouble all these years!

-- 
dorayme

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#23753

In article <do_ray_me-C93F50.12265026072014@aioe.org>,
 dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In article <lqv225$25a$1@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote:
> 
> > In comp.sys.mac.system dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > In the meantime if anyone has any other ideas...
> > 
> > Have you tried just this -
> > 
> > Safari 5.1.10 for Snow Leopard
> > http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1569
> > 
... 
> I have taken a quick look at your url, 

Too quick a look apparently! I was surprised to see it has a later 
version of Safari than is offered by the latest combo update and by 
Software Update! I downloaded and installed it and on a quick test I 
have my Safari prefs working including the Security tab (excellent, I 
can turn off Java when I don't need it).

Thanks Billy. I won't bag you about your sig for at least 3 months and 
you can take a free potshot at me using the foulest language for the 
next year. <g>

-- 
dorayme

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#23754

dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> Since I used a combo latest update for Snow Leopard to fix a corrupted
> App Store App, my Safari is not able to get Preferences from under the
> Safari menu. Nothing happens the first time. The second time I click 
> the Preferences command, Safari quits suddenly/crashes. This is a 
> repeatable phenomenon on my MB at the moment.

If you reinstalled the 10.6.8 combo update, you need to reinstall some
subsequent updates, as parts of your system may have been downgraded,
resulting in a mixture of recent and older files.

In particular, you should reinstall the last Safari and Security updates
for Snow Leopard:

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1569
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1678

In my archived copies of downloads specific to Snow Leopard, the only
other update I note which might need to be reinstalled is Snow Leopard
Migration Assistant 1.1:

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1694

There was also "Mac App Store Update 1.0", only distributed via Software
Update, but you may prefer not to reinstall that as its only notable
feature is to keep bugging you to upgrade to Mavericks.

Java is probably OK because those updates were mostly independent of the
combo update, but if in doubt, reinstall the latest Java for 10.6
(update 17):

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1573

> I have many other good browsers but am not quite ready to give up on 
> Safari or Snow Leopard. Software Update under the Apple menu reports 
> none available (I have the latest and it is not being updated beyond 
> this for this OS).

Software Update is fooled by the fact it has receipts indicating that
you had previously installed the updates I mention above, which have
been partially overwritten by the combo update. If you were to delete
the receipts for those updates, Software Update would offer them again.

> Disk Utility reports no problems. The only new software bought for the
> last week has been 'Media Inspector'.
> 
> Any suggestions besides redoing an update?


-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#23755

In article <1lpe7qt.ymmma2dgc52hN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>,
 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:

> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > Since I used a combo latest update for Snow Leopard to fix a corrupted
> > App Store App, my Safari is not able to get Preferences from under the
> > Safari menu. Nothing happens the first time. The second time I click 
> > the Preferences command, Safari quits suddenly/crashes. This is a 
> > repeatable phenomenon on my MB at the moment.
> 
> If you reinstalled the 10.6.8 combo update, you need to reinstall some
> subsequent updates, as parts of your system may have been downgraded,
> resulting in a mixture of recent and older files.
> 
> In particular, you should reinstall the last Safari and Security updates
> for Snow Leopard:
> 
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1569
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1678
>

Thanks for these, I have already done one of them. I am installing the 
other right now.
 
> In my archived copies of downloads specific to Snow Leopard, the only
> other update I note which might need to be reinstalled is Snow Leopard
> Migration Assistant 1.1:
> 
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1694
>

Just got this one down too and installed.
 
> There was also "Mac App Store Update 1.0", only distributed via Software
> Update, but you may prefer not to reinstall that as its only notable
> feature is to keep bugging you to upgrade to Mavericks.
>

I recently had trouble with this app, but now fixed. Might leave it go 
for now.
 
> Java is probably OK because those updates were mostly independent of the
> combo update, but if in doubt, reinstall the latest Java for 10.6
> (update 17):
> 
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1573
> 
> > I have many other good browsers but am not quite ready to give up on 
> > Safari or Snow Leopard. Software Update under the Apple menu reports 
> > none available (I have the latest and it is not being updated beyond 
> > this for this OS).
> 
> Software Update is fooled by the fact it has receipts indicating that
> you had previously installed the updates I mention above, which have
> been partially overwritten by the combo update. If you were to delete
> the receipts for those updates, Software Update would offer them again.

Ah so! I might try that one day, but for now, everything seems ok. 
Thanks for all this, most kind.

-- 
dorayme

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