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| Started by | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| First post | 2015-04-27 10:29 -0400 |
| Last post | 2015-04-27 12:03 -0400 |
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OS X security tools - trivial to bypass? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-27 10:29 -0400
Re: OS X security tools - trivial to bypass? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-27 10:36 -0400
Re: OS X security tools - trivial to bypass? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-27 15:45 +0000
Re: OS X security tools - trivial to bypass? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-27 12:03 -0400
| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-04-27 10:29 -0400 |
| Subject | OS X security tools - trivial to bypass? |
| Message-ID | <VqKdnStAd-tD2qPInZ2dnUU7-VOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
Someone else posted this link and other than a deflection to the past, there's been no discussion of the here and now on this subject. Anyone care to weigh in? https://threatpost.com/bypassing-os-x-security-tools-is-trivial-researcher-says/112410 QUOTE “Gatekeeper doesn’t verify an extra content in the apps. So if I can find an Apple-approved app and get it to load external content, when the user runs it, it will bypass Gatekeeper,” ENDQUOTE QUOTE Getting past XProtect turns out to be just as simple as bypassing Gatekeeper. Wardle found that by simply recompiling a known piece of OS X malware, which changes the hash, he could get the malware past XProtect and execute it on the machine. Even simpler, he could just change the name of the malware, which also lets it sneak in under the fence. ENDQUOTE
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-04-27 10:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <k7mdnc5Ph8sU1KPInZ2dnUU7-bUAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #29701 |
Wrong group. Re-posted in the system group. Sorry 'bout that. On 2015-04-27 10:29, Alan Browne wrote: > Someone else posted this link and other than a deflection to the past,
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-27 15:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cq73svF8jgcU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #29701 |
On 2015-04-27, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > Someone else posted this link and other than a deflection to the past, > there's been no discussion of the here and now on this subject. Anyone > care to weigh in? > > https://threatpost.com/bypassing-os-x-security-tools-is-trivial-researcher-says/112410 > > QUOTE > “Gatekeeper doesn’t verify an extra content in the apps. So if I can > find an Apple-approved app and get it to load external content, when the > user runs it, it will bypass Gatekeeper,” > ENDQUOTE > > QUOTE > Getting past XProtect turns out to be just as simple as bypassing > Gatekeeper. Wardle found that by simply recompiling a known piece of OS > X malware, which changes the hash, he could get the malware past > XProtect and execute it on the machine. Even simpler, he could just > change the name of the malware, which also lets it sneak in under the fence. > ENDQUOTE The first comment on the article says it all: "Patrick Wardle is talking out if his ass. He’s basically saying if a program runs arbitrary code, then arbitrary code might run. Wow so insightful." My take: *yawn* -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-04-27 12:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <LIWdneQ7xcVYwKPInZ2dnUU7-SWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #29703 |
On 2015-04-27 11:45, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2015-04-27, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> Someone else posted this link and other than a deflection to the past, >> there's been no discussion of the here and now on this subject. Anyone >> care to weigh in? >> >> https://threatpost.com/bypassing-os-x-security-tools-is-trivial-researcher-says/112410 >> >> QUOTE >> “Gatekeeper doesn’t verify an extra content in the apps. So if I can >> find an Apple-approved app and get it to load external content, when the >> user runs it, it will bypass Gatekeeper,” >> ENDQUOTE >> >> QUOTE >> Getting past XProtect turns out to be just as simple as bypassing >> Gatekeeper. Wardle found that by simply recompiling a known piece of OS >> X malware, which changes the hash, he could get the malware past >> XProtect and execute it on the machine. Even simpler, he could just >> change the name of the malware, which also lets it sneak in under the fence. >> ENDQUOTE > > The first comment on the article says it all: > > "Patrick Wardle is talking out if his ass. He’s basically saying if a > program runs arbitrary code, then arbitrary code might run. Wow so > insightful." > > My take: > > *yawn* That's too dismissive given the claims. The issue isn't the running of arbitrary code but how that code can be loaded and executed because of defects in the security system. Don't dismiss this too quickly.
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