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| Started by | Crosby Livingston <crosbylivingston44584@verizon.net> |
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| First post | 2015-04-24 04:08 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-04-26 15:19 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 251 — 31 participants |
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The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Crosby Livingston <crosbylivingston44584@verizon.net> - 2015-04-24 04:08 -0500
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-24 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-24 14:38 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-24 10:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-24 15:20 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-24 12:48 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Király <ggrandish@gmail.com> - 2015-04-24 13:09 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-25 08:59 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-25 08:19 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-25 21:28 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-26 08:53 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-24 07:55 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2015-04-24 09:43 -0600
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-24 21:01 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 17:09 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-24 23:21 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-24 21:56 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-25 00:04 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-24 22:23 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-25 00:40 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 18:50 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-25 00:57 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-24 23:45 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-25 10:35 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 08:02 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 13:07 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 13:32 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-26 15:02 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:15 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 15:39 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 15:00 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:19 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:18 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 15:22 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:11 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 17:14 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 19:07 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-26 23:36 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:47 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 13:33 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 13:58 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 13:24 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 19:50 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-24 23:42 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 18:33 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-04-24 18:35 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 14:03 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 10:14 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-26 08:58 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-26 15:04 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 13:55 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-26 16:36 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 14:59 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 07:53 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-26 17:56 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 13:18 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-24 21:26 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 17:38 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-24 21:55 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-24 15:06 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 18:33 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-24 15:43 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 01:32 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Uncle Joe <unclejoe@hush.ai> - 2015-04-25 01:48 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 23:31 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2015-04-25 03:55 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 08:09 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:34 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 13:42 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 13:54 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 10:58 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 16:38 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2015-04-25 10:22 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 14:25 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 15:26 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2015-04-25 17:59 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 10:58 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-25 08:31 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2015-04-25 22:13 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 07:39 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-26 13:03 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2015-04-26 09:38 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 10:11 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 07:50 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:29 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 10:07 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:54 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 11:12 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-28 20:08 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-28 12:11 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 11:31 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-25 22:57 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-25 23:13 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 07:43 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 07:39 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 16:16 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-24 19:12 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:41 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 14:21 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 23:31 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 14:27 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 14:00 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:29 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 15:59 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 12:04 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 16:12 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 13:32 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 17:37 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:23 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 17:34 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 14:06 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 18:36 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 19:04 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 11:09 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 19:24 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 11:50 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-26 13:04 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 16:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-27 13:32 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-27 08:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 18:36 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 16:01 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 22:05 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 17:44 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 22:48 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-27 13:43 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-27 08:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-27 06:53 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-27 15:04 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-27 08:45 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-28 20:02 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-28 20:01 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-28 12:09 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-27 13:41 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-27 08:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 22:40 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-27 13:39 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-27 06:51 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-28 20:04 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-28 12:10 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-27 13:27 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-27 08:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-27 14:20 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-27 17:02 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-26 18:57 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-26 15:19 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:51 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 11:11 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 18:25 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-26 19:13 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jesper Kaas <jesperk@neitakk.online.no> - 2015-04-24 18:26 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-24 12:39 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-04-24 17:59 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac mick <no.spam@junk.mail> - 2015-04-24 20:57 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Uncle Joe <unclejoe@hush.ai> - 2015-04-25 01:46 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 14:35 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Uncle Joe <unclejoe@hush.ai> - 2015-04-25 01:39 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-04-25 08:01 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 08:05 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-25 16:07 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2015-04-25 15:38 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-25 21:03 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2015-04-25 21:36 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-26 10:43 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 16:14 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-25 21:03 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-04-25 18:52 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2015-04-25 13:20 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 13:40 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 13:58 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 14:10 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 16:34 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 15:23 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 14:28 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 16:26 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 17:46 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 14:10 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 10:58 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-04-25 18:54 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 21:57 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 22:12 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 18:53 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 23:50 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-26 10:43 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 07:37 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 13:52 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 10:34 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 07:41 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-04-26 03:36 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 23:14 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 13:52 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2015-04-25 17:37 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 17:30 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 19:28 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 21:55 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-25 16:08 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 13:33 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:45 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 13:54 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 10:58 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Dave <example@example.net> - 2015-04-25 15:07 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 16:19 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 16:40 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 19:23 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:03 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:43 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Dave <example@example.net> - 2015-04-25 15:08 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 13:50 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2015-04-25 09:48 -0600
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 11:48 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 16:20 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 15:20 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 15:19 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 14:55 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:40 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-26 15:58 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 16:06 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 16:00 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 15:06 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:47 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 16:08 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:57 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 18:27 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-26 15:19 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 20:08 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-26 16:14 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 20:30 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:45 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-26 15:59 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 18:58 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-27 00:02 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-27 09:19 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-27 17:08 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 10:05 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 17:12 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:58 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 18:29 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 18:59 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 18:56 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-26 23:39 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-26 19:44 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-27 01:58 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-27 09:17 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-27 12:55 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-26 15:19 -0400
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <250420150907354480%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #29478 |
In article <mhfjjg$567$1@dont-email.me>, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > Yes. A unix where apple paid for having the rights to put a "unix" tag to > it. The only unix which has no X running as GUI, and on top of X one of the > several display managers. it's trivial to install x for those that want it. > In short: It is difficult to port unix gui software to OSX. nonsense. it might be difficult for you, but the rest of the world doesn't have a problem with porting to os x. in fact, most unix apps already autodetect os x and build without any extra effort. > Add to that the > fact that OSX is only case-preserving and for that reason has even the CLI > tools modified you have a lot of stuff why OSX is a unix by name, not by its > workings. I have to work with that shitty OS because people want the > programs for OSX too. But that does not mean that I have to like that awful > crap any software that relies on specifics about the file system is by definition buggy and needs to be fixed.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-25 13:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cq1ksaFqffnU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #29478 |
On 2015-04-25, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > Jolly Roger wrote: > >> On 2015-04-24, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>> >>> Do you really think that you can fool anyone with an IQ above room >>> temperature with your nonsense? >> >> Ironic, coming from someone who believes 90% of all unix software does >> not run on OS X, which is unix. : ) >> > > Yes. A unix where apple paid for having the rights to put a "unix" tag to > it. The only unix which has no X running as GUI, and on top of X one of the > several display managers. OS X is Unix, whether you like it or not. : ) Nobody cares about your silly Linux GUI layers. OS X has a much better user experience than Linux has yet to provide. > In short: It is difficult to port unix gui software to OSX. Not if you know what you are doing and use appropriate tools and libraries. > Add to that the fact that OSX is only case-preserving Big deal. And if you're writing software that makes assumptions about the type of file system it runs on, you're writing shitty software. > and for that reason has even the CLI > tools modified you have a lot of stuff why OSX is a unix by name, not by its > workings. Works great here. Must be you. : ) > I have to work with that shitty OS because people want the > programs for OSX too. But that does not mean that I have to like that awful > crap I'm betting the real "crap" is the software you write. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
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| Date | 2015-04-26 13:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k0mpja96di1f0duapipp690mrp3s9dbh1f@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29464 |
On 24 Apr 2015 23:45:16 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>On 2015-04-24, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>
>> Do you really think that you can fool anyone with an IQ above room
>> temperature with your nonsense?
>
>Ironic, coming from someone who believes 90% of all unix software does
>not run on OS X, which is unix. : )
There's an easy way to resolve this discussion.
You provide TinyPics with screen shots of you downloading and
running, without any modifications, standard *Nixxy packages that live
on standard &*Nixxy sites and are used in standard *Nix (assuming such
a rare animal exists) and Peter can do the same with his *Nixxy
packages that crash.
That is *SCIENCE*, guys, doing experiments with soap and screwdrivers
in the wall sockets and extremely high energy exothermic compounds and
stuff and it can be *fun*.
Why claim when you can *show*?
J.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-24 19:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <240420151950073595%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #29463 |
In article <mhehn7$grc$1@dont-email.me>, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > >> >>> What can't you install? > >> >>> > >> >> About 90% of unix programs. And those which can be installed are > >> >> crippled > >> > > >> > Bull. You clearly know nothing at all about OS X if that's what you > >> > believe. You should learn a bit about things before you make such silly > >> > statements. In my experience *most* popular *nix projects compile > >> > without issue. In fact, I am posting this message from my MacBook Pro > >> > with slrn which I built with the standard ./configure, make, sudo make > >> > install: > >> > > >> > <http://slrn.sourceforge.net> > >> > > >> > Not only can I compile and run most *nix software, but I can also run > >> > all Windows software titles I want, and of course all OS X software - > >> > more than I would be able to run with an off the shelf Wintel PC > >> > running Windows or Linux, and with a way better user experience. > >> > > >> > >> Too bad that I own a Mac. Because I have to to build projects for Macs > >> also. > >> > >> Your claim is utter bullshit. Most unix GUI programs will not work at > >> all. Not even after making heavy modifications > > > > nonsense. > > Good that you could provide the many links to the programs which work just > fine. > > After all, X is not even provided out of the box anymore on OSX, and even if > it were it would be basically useless since next to none current unix > programs work with just X alone anyone who supposedly knows how to install unix apps should have no problem installing x11 on a mac. the reason it's no longer included is because almost nobody used it. x is awful, and that's being polite. > Do you really think that you can fool anyone with an IQ above room > temperature with your nonsense? that strategy is clearly not working for you.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-24 23:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cq02nsFf7qdU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #29461 |
On 2015-04-24, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > Jolly Roger wrote: > >> On 2015-04-24, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>> Lewis wrote: >>> >>>> What can't you install? >>>> >>> About 90% of unix programs. And those which can be installed are crippled >> >> Bull. You clearly know nothing at all about OS X if that's what you >> believe. You should learn a bit about things before you make such silly >> statements. In my experience *most* popular *nix projects compile >> without issue. In fact, I am posting this message from my MacBook Pro >> with slrn which I built with the standard ./configure, make, sudo make >> install: >> >> <http://slrn.sourceforge.net> >> >> Not only can I compile and run most *nix software, but I can also run >> all Windows software titles I want, and of course all OS X software - >> more than I would be able to run with an off the shelf Wintel PC running >> Windows or Linux, and with a way better user experience. >> > > Too bad that I own a Mac. Because I have to to build projects for Macs also. > > Your claim is utter bullshit. Most unix GUI programs will not work at all. I'm not surprised you want to move the goal posts. First it was "90% of unix programs" and now you want to change it to "most unix GUI programs". If you think 90% of all unix programs are GUI programs, you have a *lot* to learn about *nix software. You're just as wrong now as you were then. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-24 18:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <240420151833408412%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #29454 |
In article <mheeis$1l3$3@dont-email.me>, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > >>>> > For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch? > >>>> > >>>> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not what > >>>> Apple says you have to. > >>> > >>> anyone can install anything they want on os x. > > > >> Yes. And the earth is flat > > > > What can't you install? > > > About 90% of unix programs. And those which can be installed are crippled nonsense. just about every unix app will install with little to no modifications needed and run exactly the same as on any other unix system. anyone who can't figure out how shouldn't be running linux in the first place. there is the occasional app that relies on something specific to linux, which means it would not install on a generic bsd box either. those are *very* rare and wouldn't make sense on a non-linux system anyway.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-24 18:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mhegd5$di5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29454 |
Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Lewis wrote:
>
>> In message <mhec3k$q1q$1@dont-email.me>
>> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>> nospam wrote:
>>>> In article <cpvp98Fcvt1U1@mid.individual.net>, Huge
>>>> <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch?
>>>>> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not what
>>>>> Apple says you have to.
>>>> anyone can install anything they want on os x.
>>> Yes. And the earth is flat
>> What can't you install?
>>
> About 90% of unix programs. And those which can be installed are crippled
On my Mac G4 (MacOSX 10.2.8), I used "Fink" for that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_package_management_systems
"Fink - A port of dpkg, it is one of the earliest
package managers for OS X"
Fink ports allows importation of tools you might like.
I had everything you can imagine on that machine. Truly
the universal donor. Too bad by today's standards, the
CPU is so slow.
Fink
Darwin related stuff to play with
CodeWarrier
Virtual PC (with Win2K loaded)
Some kind of X display, for remote Unix box operation
MachTen
Classic (ability to run MacOS 9.1 or earlier applications)
(Box even runs a recent Ubuntu PowerPC boot disc...)
The price of that machine was high, but I never felt
restricted in what I could do with it. If I wanted
Firefox, there was a .dmg for that. So you weren't
stuck with the less-than-adequate Safari.
Some of the items were off the mark. I never use
the Mouse and Keyboard provided in the box, as I
likely own something better. For example, the very
first thing you want, is a "three button" mouse. As
the Mac idea of one button is "just so wrong" :-)
But no complaints about the richness of the stuff
I could run on it. I could do everything I can do
on this PC. And on this PC, I use PearPC and
SheepShaver. The PearPC in the back of that
picture, has verbatim copies of the Mac G4 hard
drives. I hacked PearPC so it would accept drives
over 33GB in size (by actually editing the PearPC
executable with a hex editor).
http://i57.tinypic.com/14xoxog.jpg
(And that's not Knoppix running there. The background
image in WinXP, is copied from Knoppix.)
If you're not having fun with your computer,
"you're not holding it right" :-)
Paul
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| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-26 14:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <oqnpjat7bcn85gpbl1o56a7r4n4340q35i@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29459 |
On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:35:15 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:
>Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> In message <mhec3k$q1q$1@dont-email.me>
>>> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>> nospam wrote:
>>>>> In article <cpvp98Fcvt1U1@mid.individual.net>, Huge
>>>>> <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch?
>>>>>> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not what
>>>>>> Apple says you have to.
>>>>> anyone can install anything they want on os x.
>>>> Yes. And the earth is flat
>>> What can't you install?
>>>
>> About 90% of unix programs. And those which can be installed are crippled
>
>On my Mac G4 (MacOSX 10.2.8), I used "Fink" for that.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_package_management_systems
>
> "Fink - A port of dpkg, it is one of the earliest
> package managers for OS X"
>
>Fink ports allows importation of tools you might like.
>I had everything you can imagine on that machine. Truly
>the universal donor.
Universal *recipient*, shirley? The donors were the upstream,
superior systems from which you downloaded stuff.
> Too bad by today's standards, the
>CPU is so slow.
>
>Fink
>Darwin related stuff to play with
>CodeWarrier
>Virtual PC (with Win2K loaded)
>Some kind of X display, for remote Unix box operation
I think I remember installing that, and maybe X11 way back around
2007. Would that have been so?
I know I had to fight to get a version of NTFS-3G working under OSX
then so I could use NTFS drives. That was a pain.
>MachTen
>Classic (ability to run MacOS 9.1 or earlier applications)
>(Box even runs a recent Ubuntu PowerPC boot disc...)
>
>The price of that machine was high, but I never felt
>restricted in what I could do with it. If I wanted
>Firefox, there was a .dmg for that. So you weren't
>stuck with the less-than-adequate Safari.
Oh. FF, yes. That "just works". The guys porting FF around have done
very good jobs.
And I've installed Crossover to run WinXP games for the wife, and a
whole raft of video and music and book handling stuff; but almost all
of those were native OSX installs.
>
>Some of the items were off the mark. I never use
>the Mouse and Keyboard provided in the box, as I
>likely own something better. For example, the very
>first thing you want, is a "three button" mouse. As
>the Mac idea of one button is "just so wrong" :-)
Strangely, I have managed to run with the keyboard and touchpad on my
Macbook since 2007, even running WinXP and Win7 games and video stuff.
I've never needed a mousey.
I did get a finger-ring mouse for the wife but she had hand
co-ordination issues so we rarely used it. The mouse and the
"Enterprise" and "Knotty-rope" keys do the job of emulating Windosed
right-clicks and things.
>
>But no complaints about the richness of the stuff
>I could run on it. I could do everything I can do
>on this PC. And on this PC, I use PearPC and
>SheepShaver. The PearPC in the back of that
>picture, has verbatim copies of the Mac G4 hard
>drives. I hacked PearPC so it would accept drives
>over 33GB in size (by actually editing the PearPC
>executable with a hex editor).
>
>http://i57.tinypic.com/14xoxog.jpg
>
>(And that's not Knoppix running there. The background
>image in WinXP, is copied from Knoppix.)
>
>If you're not having fun with your computer,
>"you're not holding it right" :-)
If you're not having fun, sell it and take up a rewarding hobby
instead.
They can be hard work, but even that should be a fun learning
experience. :)
J.
>
> Paul
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-04-25 10:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmjmq9j.jbs.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #29454 |
In message <mheeis$1l3$3@dont-email.me> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > Lewis wrote: >> In message <mhec3k$q1q$1@dont-email.me> >> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>> nospam wrote: >> >>>> In article <cpvp98Fcvt1U1@mid.individual.net>, Huge >>>> <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> > For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch? >>>>> >>>>> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not what >>>>> Apple says you have to. >>>> >>>> anyone can install anything they want on os x. >> >>> Yes. And the earth is flat >> >> What can't you install? >> > About 90% of unix programs. Bullshit. > And those which can be installed are crippled Bullshit^2. -- Help me, Obi-wan Kenobi. You're my only hope.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-04-26 08:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Wu-dnX-Jz71pfaHInZ2dnUU7-cWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #29454 |
On 2015-04-24 18:04, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Lewis wrote: > >> In message <mhec3k$q1q$1@dont-email.me> >> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>> nospam wrote: >> >>>> In article <cpvp98Fcvt1U1@mid.individual.net>, Huge >>>> <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch? >>>>> >>>>> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not what >>>>> Apple says you have to. >>>> >>>> anyone can install anything they want on os x. >> >>> Yes. And the earth is flat >> >> What can't you install? >> > About 90% of unix programs. And those which can be installed are crippled OS X is Unix. So all properly designed/compiled Unix compliant programs will run on OS X.
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2015-04-26 15:04 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mhinmb$m5r$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29587 |
Alan Browne wrote: > On 2015-04-24 18:04, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> Lewis wrote: >> >>> In message <mhec3k$q1q$1@dont-email.me> >>> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>>> nospam wrote: >>> >>>>> In article <cpvp98Fcvt1U1@mid.individual.net>, Huge >>>>> <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch? >>>>>> >>>>>> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not >>>>>> what Apple says you have to. >>>>> >>>>> anyone can install anything they want on os x. >>> >>>> Yes. And the earth is flat >>> >>> What can't you install? >>> >> About 90% of unix programs. And those which can be installed are crippled > > OS X is Unix. So all properly designed/compiled Unix compliant programs > will run on OS X. I have several slightly used bridges on sale...
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-26 13:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cq491sFgnv3U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #29589 |
On 2015-04-26, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > Alan Browne wrote: > >> On 2015-04-24 18:04, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> Lewis wrote: >>> >>>> In message <mhec3k$q1q$1@dont-email.me> >>>> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>>>> nospam wrote: >>>> >>>>>> In article <cpvp98Fcvt1U1@mid.individual.net>, Huge >>>>>> <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not >>>>>>> what Apple says you have to. >>>>>> >>>>>> anyone can install anything they want on os x. >>>> >>>>> Yes. And the earth is flat >>>> >>>> What can't you install? >>>> >>> About 90% of unix programs. And those which can be installed are crippled >> >> OS X is Unix. So all properly designed/compiled Unix compliant programs >> will run on OS X. > > I have several slightly used bridges on sale... Denying it only makes you look more and more foolish to those of us who know better. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2015-04-26 16:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mhit4b$a2d$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29598 |
Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2015-04-26, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >> Alan Browne wrote: >> >>> On 2015-04-24 18:04, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> Lewis wrote: >>>> >>>>> In message <mhec3k$q1q$1@dont-email.me> >>>>> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>>>>> nospam wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> In article <cpvp98Fcvt1U1@mid.individual.net>, Huge >>>>>>> <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not >>>>>>>> what Apple says you have to. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> anyone can install anything they want on os x. >>>>> >>>>>> Yes. And the earth is flat >>>>> >>>>> What can't you install? >>>>> >>>> About 90% of unix programs. And those which can be installed are >>>> crippled >>> >>> OS X is Unix. So all properly designed/compiled Unix compliant programs >>> will run on OS X. >> >> I have several slightly used bridges on sale... > > Denying it only makes you look more and more foolish to those of us who > know better. > You seem to forget that I own a apple machine myself. Not by choice, though. If there werent the need to compile/test/run my programs on apple machines too (because clients asked for that), I would never have bought that crap. It is not nearly as capable as a typical linux machine. Even that garbage "windows" is usually better than OSX I know what can be easily done on OSX and what is more difficult to achieve.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-26 14:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cq4cr9FhhmbU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #29604 |
On 2015-04-26, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2015-04-26, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>> Alan Browne wrote: >>> >>>> OS X is Unix. So all properly designed/compiled Unix compliant programs >>>> will run on OS X. >>> >>> I have several slightly used bridges on sale... >> >> Denying it only makes you look more and more foolish to those of us who >> know better. > > You seem to forget that I own a apple machine myself. Irrelevant to what is being discussed. > Not by choice, though. That explains why you are ignorant about OS X. > If there werent the need to compile/test/run my programs on apple machines > too (because clients asked for that), I would never have bought that crap. You rarely use it, so you are clearly an expert about it. Got it. > It is not nearly as capable as a typical linux machine. Nonsense. It's more capable in a lot of ways. > Even that garbage "windows" is usually better than OSX Laughable. > I know what can be easily done on OSX and what is more difficult to achieve. Clearly, not. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-04-26 07:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <260420150753135393%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #29589 |
In article <mhinmb$m5r$2@dont-email.me>, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > I have several slightly used bridges on sale... OK, so you're either a thief or a liar.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-04-26 17:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <uIydnbo40vlrw6DInZ2dnUU7-cWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #29589 |
On 2015-04-26 09:04, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Alan Browne wrote: > >> On 2015-04-24 18:04, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> Lewis wrote: >>> >>>> In message <mhec3k$q1q$1@dont-email.me> >>>> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>>>> nospam wrote: >>>> >>>>>> In article <cpvp98Fcvt1U1@mid.individual.net>, Huge >>>>>> <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not >>>>>>> what Apple says you have to. >>>>>> >>>>>> anyone can install anything they want on os x. >>>> >>>>> Yes. And the earth is flat >>>> >>>> What can't you install? >>>> >>> About 90% of unix programs. And those which can be installed are crippled >> >> OS X is Unix. So all properly designed/compiled Unix compliant programs >> will run on OS X. > > I have several slightly used bridges on sale... You couldn't sell shit on your best day.
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| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
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| Date | 2015-04-26 13:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <cdlpja5t053cit3at6pb1a2jamp9jglrrv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29453 |
On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 21:56:33 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>In message <mhec3k$q1q$1@dont-email.me>
> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>> nospam wrote:
>
>>> In article <cpvp98Fcvt1U1@mid.individual.net>, Huge
>>> <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch?
>>>>
>>>> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not what
>>>> Apple says you have to.
>>>
>>> anyone can install anything they want on os x.
>
>> Yes. And the earth is flat
>
>What can't you install?
Windows (TM) programs?
Sorry.
But not very.
J.
.
.
.
Addendum: yes, I know about and use Crossover, WINE, Boot Camp,
Parallels and some of the other emulators and VM-wares but that is
*NOT* installing Win-proggies under OSX. It is installing OSX programs
that will *then* run Win-proggies. Totally different animal. What we
can't do with OSX is load up Messy Word 97 from a Windows install disk
and expect it to run.
Given the universe of malware that comes with Windows, this may
indeed be a very good thing.
And I do know that Win-stuff won't install under *Nixxy-OSes either.
Not natively. Not usually. But that wasn't the question asked.
This explanation is intended to forestall the otherwise inevitable
millions of " ... but you *CAN* ..." idiotic responses from those with
a sense of humour bypass. It's a lot of work for one stupid joke,
isn't it? But hopefully it will save oodles of otherwise wasted
bandwidth.
J.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-24 21:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cpvqntFddpfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #29447 |
On 2015-04-24, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2015-04-24, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-24 09:08:55 +0000, Crosby Livingston said:
>>
>>> Interesting article for the best distros to switch to if you're on
>>> Windows & Mac, especially if you're still on WinXP like I am.
>>>
>>> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-linux-distro-first-time-switchers-windows-mac/
>>>
>>
>> Sigh...
>> Here we go again.
>>
>> For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch?
>
> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not what
> Apple says you have to.
Hyperbole. I can run more software on Macs than on Linux/Window PCs.
--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
JR
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-24 17:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <240420151738501016%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #29450 |
In article <cpvqntFddpfU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch? > > > > Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not what > > Apple says you have to. > > Hyperbole. I can run more software on Macs than on Linux/Window PCs. not only more, but much better and more powerful software.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-04-24 21:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmjlevl.bd3.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #29447 |
In message <cpvp98Fcvt1U1@mid.individual.net>
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2015-04-24, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-24 09:08:55 +0000, Crosby Livingston said:
>>
>>> Interesting article for the best distros to switch to if you're on
>>> Windows & Mac, especially if you're still on WinXP like I am.
>>>
>>> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-linux-distro-first-time-switchers-windows-mac/
>>>
>>
>> Sigh...
>> Here we go again.
>>
>> For those of us using OSX the question remains, why switch?
> Because you want to install and run the software you want to, not what
> Apple says you have to.
It's been a long time since I found anything useful for Linux that
didn't compile on OS X.
--
Footnote on the High Energy Magic building: It was here that the thaum,
hitherto believed to be the smallest possible particle of magic, was
successfully demonstrated to be made up of resons (lit: 'Thing-ies) or
reality fragments. Currently research indicates that each reson is
itself made up of a combination of at least five 'flavours', known as
'up', 'down', 'sideways', 'sex appeal' and 'peppermint'.
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