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"up"grade problems

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First post2015-04-03 20:10 +0000
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  "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-03 20:10 +0000
    Re: "up"grade problems nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-03 16:12 -0400
      Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 00:49 +0000
        Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-04 04:23 +0000
        Re: "up"grade problems Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-04 10:07 +0000
    Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-03 20:48 +0000
      Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-03 21:57 +0000
        Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-04 00:00 +0000
          Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 00:49 +0000
            Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-04 02:28 +0000
              Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 18:03 +0000
        Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 00:49 +0000
          Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-04 02:32 +0000
            Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 18:03 +0000
              Re: "up"grade problems nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-04 14:14 -0400
                Re: "up"grade problems erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-04 15:48 -0500
                  Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-04 21:00 +0000
                    Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 22:26 +0000
                      Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-04 22:29 +0000
                        Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-05 02:51 +0000
                          Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-05 05:08 +0000
                            Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-05 19:49 +0000
                              Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-05 19:53 +0000
                                Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-06 16:07 +0000
                          Re: "up"grade problems Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2015-04-05 16:53 -0700
                            Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-06 10:15 +0000
                              Re: "up"grade problems Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-06 13:04 +0000
                            Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-06 13:08 +0000
                            Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-06 16:07 +0000
                              Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-06 18:25 +0000
                          Re: "up"grade problems David Moorman <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-05 19:52 -0500
                      Re: "up"grade problems David Moorman <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-05 19:52 -0500
                  Re: "up"grade problems David Moorman <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-05 19:49 -0500
                    Re: "up"grade problems Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-05 20:41 -0700
                      Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-06 16:07 +0000
                        Re: "up"grade problems isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2015-04-06 09:30 -0700
                        Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-06 18:22 +0000
                          Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
                            Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-09 22:12 +0100
                              Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
                                Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-10 22:48 +0100
                                  Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 02:47 +0000
                                    Re: "up"grade problems Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 22:20 -0700
                                      Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:40 +0000
                                        Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000
                                    Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 09:38 +0100
                                      Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:40 +0000
                                        Re: "up"grade problems Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-12 10:52 -0400
                                        Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 11:54 -0400
                                        Re: "up"grade problems Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-12 15:56 +0000
                                        Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 17:01 +0100
                                          Re: "up"grade problems Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-12 09:09 -0700
                                          Re: "up"grade problems erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-18 19:54 -0500
                                            Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-19 02:13 +0000
                                              Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-20 23:18 +0000
                                                Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 02:01 +0000
                                            Re: "up"grade problems David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-18 23:23 -0500
                                              Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-19 14:43 +0000
                                                Re: "up"grade problems David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-19 10:32 -0500
                                            Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-19 18:21 +1000
                                              Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-20 23:18 +0000
                                                Re: "up"grade problems nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-20 19:22 -0400
                                                Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-20 19:28 -0400
                                                  Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-21 19:04 +0000
                                                    Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-22 09:00 +1000
                                                Re: "up"grade problems Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-20 17:24 -0700
                                                  Re: "up"grade problems David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 20:31 -0500
                                                  Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 07:16 -0400
                                                    Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 13:39 +0000
                                                      Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 11:14 -0400
                                                        Re: "up"grade problems nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-21 11:15 -0400
                                                          Re: "up"grade problems isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2015-04-21 12:08 -0700
                                                            Re: "up"grade problems nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-21 15:16 -0400
                                                              Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-22 09:07 +1000
                                                          Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-22 08:57 +1000
                                                        Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 15:26 +0000
                                                        Re: "up"grade problems sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-22 02:36 +0000
                                                          Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 08:19 -0400
                                                            Re: "up"grade problems sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-25 15:40 +0000
                                                              Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 12:29 -0400
                                                              Re: "up"grade problems Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-25 14:13 -0700
                                                                Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-26 07:45 +1000
                                                                Re: "up"grade problems "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2015-04-25 21:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 18:04 -0400
                                                                  Re: "up"grade problems "Thip" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-04-25 19:11 -0400
                                                                    Re: "up"grade problems "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2015-04-25 23:59 +0000
                                                                  Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-26 09:32 +1000
                                                Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-21 10:47 +1000
                                                  Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 07:23 -0400
                                                    Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-21 19:04 +0000
                                                    Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-22 08:29 +1000
                                                      Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 19:04 -0400
                                                        Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 19:07 -0400
                                                          Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-22 12:37 +1000
                                                        Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-22 12:34 +1000
                                                Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 02:02 +0000
                                                  Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-21 19:04 +0000
                                                    Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 19:12 +0000
                                                      Re: "up"grade problems erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-22 11:47 -0500
                                                        Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 16:55 +0000
                                                        Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 13:11 -0400
                                                          Re: "up"grade problems David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-22 14:28 -0500
                                                          Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-23 07:15 +1000
                                                            Re: "up"grade problems erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-24 07:30 -0500
                                                Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 04:14 +0000
                                                  Re: "up"grade problems erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-24 07:32 -0500
                                                Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-21 09:14 +0100
                                                  Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-21 19:04 +0000
                                        Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-13 07:02 +1000
                                          Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 19:32 -0400
                                          Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:31 +0000
                                  Re: "up"grade problems dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-18 13:50 +1200
                                    Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-18 01:57 +0000
                                    Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-18 08:35 +0100
                                      Re: "up"grade problems dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-19 15:13 +1200
                                        Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-19 10:13 +0100
                                          Re: "up"grade problems dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-19 22:02 +1200
                                            Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-19 13:14 +0100
                                          Re: "up"grade problems Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 02:16 +0000
                                      Re: "up"grade problems Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-19 07:44 +0000
                                        Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-21 19:04 +0000
                                          Re: "up"grade problems dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-22 09:15 +1200
                            Re: "up"grade problems Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:42 +0000
                              Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
                                Re: "up"grade problems Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-10 22:51 +0100
                                  Re: "up"grade problems erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-18 19:50 -0500
                                    Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-19 02:07 +0000
                                      Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-20 23:18 +0000
                                        Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 02:00 +0000
                                          Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-21 19:04 +0000
                                            Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 19:14 +0000
                                              Re: "up"grade problems erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-22 11:55 -0500
                                                Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 17:14 +0000
                                                  Re: "up"grade problems erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-24 07:28 -0500
                                                    Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-24 13:54 +0000
                        Re: "up"grade problems Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2015-04-07 14:20 -0700
                          Re: "up"grade problems Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-08 00:58 +0000
                          Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
    Re: "up"grade problems Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-03 13:49 -0700
      Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 18:03 +0000
        Re: "up"grade problems Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-04 11:16 -0700
          Re: "up"grade problems erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-04 15:45 -0500
            Re: "up"grade problems nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-04 16:58 -0400
        Re: "up"grade problems Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-04 13:43 -0700
        Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-05 09:46 +1100
          Re: "up"grade problems Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-04 16:49 -0700
            Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-05 10:06 +1100
              Re: "up"grade problems Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-04 17:41 -0700
                Re: "up"grade problems dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-05 12:32 +1100
                Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-05 02:51 +0000
            Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-05 02:51 +0000
            Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
          Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-05 02:51 +0000
            Re: "up"grade problems Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-05 09:25 -0400
    Re: "up"grade problems Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-03 14:09 -0700
    Re: "up"grade problems Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-03 17:32 -0400
      Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 00:49 +0000
    Re: "up"grade problems Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-04 03:23 +0000
      Re: "up"grade problems Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 18:03 +0000

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#29272

FromErilar <drache@notchibardun.net>
Date2015-04-20 23:18 +0000
Message-ID<305779906451264114.829772drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#28942
dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> In article <drache-B6ECBE.19544318042015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
>  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>> You mount the disk from
>>> the other machine on your Desktop. Then you open a Finder window on
>>> that disk, and navigate to the Applications folder so you can see your
>>> old Pages. You can do cmd-I (Get Info) on that app to confirm that it's
>>> the old version. If you open a Finder window on your local boot disk,
>>> where the Applications folder is, and open that, you can *then* drag
>>> the old Pages from the old machine into your new one's Applications
>>> folder.
>> 
>> I admit to stupidity, though I prefer to call it incomprehension. I 
>> still don,t understand how that "disk" gets from one to the other.
> 
> It does not get from one to the other, a hard drive in one computer 
> stays hard and in place in that computer. But a wire (like Firewire or 
> USB cable or wifi maybe) can make *an icon* of that disk appear 
> another computer. The icon is *caused* by the hard drive in the first 
> computer like a light is caused to come on by the switch that is 
> distant. And that icon, suitably clicked, can make appearances on this 
> second computer that reveal the contents of that disk etc.

A connector with USB or Fireware on both ends? I have no idea where to find
such a thing,  particularly now that the local Radio Shack is gone.

-- 
biblioholic medievalist

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#29273

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-04-20 19:22 -0400
Message-ID<200420151922419166%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#29272
In article
<305779906451264114.829772drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.
org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote:

> A connector with USB or Fireware on both ends? I have no idea where to find
> such a thing,  particularly now that the local Radio Shack is gone.

online, including amazon and apple

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#29274

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-20 19:28 -0400
Message-ID<55358b83$0$1639$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#29272
In article 
<305779906451264114.829772drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september
.org>,
 Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote:

> A connector with USB or Fireware on both ends? 

Seriously?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#29307

FromErilar <drache@notchibardun.net>
Date2015-04-21 19:04 +0000
Message-ID<383943753451335691.217756drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#29274
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <305779906451264114.829772drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september
> .org>,
> Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote:
> 
>> A connector with USB or Fireware on both ends? 
> Seriously?

I have a rateher large cable collection, but none like that.
-- 
biblioholic medievalist

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#29319

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2015-04-22 09:00 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-73F5EF.09000722042015@aioe.org>
In reply to#29307
In article 
<383943753451335691.217756drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septemb
er.org>,
 Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote:

> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article 
> > <305779906451264114.829772drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september
> > .org>,
> > Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> A connector with USB or Fireware on both ends? 
> > Seriously?
> 
> I have a rateher large cable collection, but none like that.

Almost all usb cables have usb connectors (of some sort or other) on 
both ends because otherwise they would be called something slightly 
different. Ditto firewire.

-- 
dorayme

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#29275

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2015-04-20 17:24 -0700
Message-ID<2015042017243913901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
In reply to#29272
On 2015-04-20 23:18:40 +0000, Erilar said:

> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> In article <drache-B6ECBE.19544318042015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
>> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>> You mount the disk from
>>>> the other machine on your Desktop. Then you open a Finder window on
>>>> that disk, and navigate to the Applications folder so you can see your
>>>> old Pages. You can do cmd-I (Get Info) on that app to confirm that it's
>>>> the old version. If you open a Finder window on your local boot disk,
>>>> where the Applications folder is, and open that, you can *then* drag
>>>> the old Pages from the old machine into your new one's Applications
>>>> folder.
>>> 
>>> I admit to stupidity, though I prefer to call it incomprehension. I
>>> still don,t understand how that "disk" gets from one to the other.
>> 
>> It does not get from one to the other, a hard drive in one computer
>> stays hard and in place in that computer. But a wire (like Firewire or
>> USB cable or wifi maybe) can make *an icon* of that disk appear
>> another computer. The icon is *caused* by the hard drive in the first
>> computer like a light is caused to come on by the switch that is
>> distant. And that icon, suitably clicked, can make appearances on this
>> second computer that reveal the contents of that disk etc.
> 
> A connector with USB or Fireware on both ends? I have no idea where to find
> such a thing,  particularly now that the local Radio Shack is gone.

OWC has all the cables you could possibly think of.
<http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/cables>

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#29280

FromDavid Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Date2015-04-20 20:31 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.OSX.2.20.1504201945231.9160@mako.ath.cx>
In reply to#29275
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On Monday, 20 April 2015 17:24 -0700, 
 in article <2015042017243913901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>, 
 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2015-04-20 23:18:40 +0000, Erilar said:

>> A connector with USB or Fireware on both ends? I have no idea where 
>> to find such a thing, particularly now that the local Radio Shack 
>> is gone.

s/Fireware/FireWire

Radio Shack was an unlikely choice, for this sort of thingamajig.

> OWC has all the cables you could possibly think of.
> <http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/cables>

Yes, of course Erilar could boot the laptop running Snow Leopard into 
target mode, and do the migration from it, with the correct FW-800 to 
whatever connectors are available on the unnamed device running 
Yosemite, for migration.  I still see it as a bad move; a disaster in 
slow motion.  While this might be accomplished by better than 99.9% of 
Mac users, this simple solution is not likely to be understood or 
executed successfully by this particular luser.

Based on many of the things Erilar's written in these threads, I 
believe that the new laptop is FUBAR, and requires a clean 
installation of the OS, before any migration is attempted.

None of this appear to be among things this user should even consider, 
let alone undertake.  This user requires far more assistance than 
hand-holding can provide.

A visit to the Genius Bar, with the old laptop, new laptop and iPad, 
may be Erilar's only chance for getting from A, to B, to C, at this 
point.  We are not dealing with anyone approaching being facile with 
even the most basic of technical techniques.

-- 
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
 "He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and
  island are the laws of nature."    - George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

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#29295

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-21 07:16 -0400
Message-ID<55363182$0$46974$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#29275
In article <2015042017243913901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> 
> OWC has all the cables you could possibly think of.
> <http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/cables>

I buy cables and stuff from China via Ebay. Takes a bit longer to 
arrive, but it's cheap and it's made in the same factory.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#29297

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-04-21 13:39 +0000
Message-ID<cpn299F5jm9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#29295
On 2015-04-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <2015042017243913901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> 
>> OWC has all the cables you could possibly think of.
>> <http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/cables>
>
> I buy cables and stuff from China via Ebay. Takes a bit longer to 
> arrive, but it's cheap and it's made in the same factory.

Not always, no. Many are counterfeit and are not made well.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#29299

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-21 11:14 -0400
Message-ID<5536695f$0$19841$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#29297
In article <cpn299F5jm9U1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-04-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <2015042017243913901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
> >  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >> OWC has all the cables you could possibly think of.
> >> <http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/cables>
> >
> > I buy cables and stuff from China via Ebay. Takes a bit longer to 
> > arrive, but it's cheap and it's made in the same factory.
> 
> Not always, no. Many are counterfeit and are not made well.


Okie-dokie. Everything I've bought from China works just fine. CO 
detectors, USB sticks, 100' ethernet cables, a wireless keyboard (cute 
little thing), hell, a new gearshift knob for my Vibe (might be a 
"counterfeit" though, I dunno). 

How can a cable be "counterfeit?"
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#29300

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-04-21 11:15 -0400
Message-ID<210420151115450130%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#29299
In article <5536695f$0$19841$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> How can a cable be "counterfeit?"

non-compliant with the usb spec.

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#29308

Fromisw <isw@witzend.com>
Date2015-04-21 12:08 -0700
Message-ID<isw-06CE7F.12080921042015@news-roam.garlic.com>
In reply to#29300
In article <210420151115450130%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <5536695f$0$19841$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com>,
> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > How can a cable be "counterfeit?"
> 
> non-compliant with the usb spec.

"Non-compliant" is nowhere near the same thing as "non-working". 
Non-compliance can be due to something as simple as the maker not being 
willing to pay the licensing fees for the "official" logo.

My experience is that, if you're willing to put up with a little bit of 
annoyance once in a while, you can save a whole lot of money by buying 
"cheap" cables.

Isaac

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#29313

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-04-21 15:16 -0400
Message-ID<210420151516397365%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#29308
In article <isw-06CE7F.12080921042015@news-roam.garlic.com>, isw
<isw@witzend.com> wrote:

> > > How can a cable be "counterfeit?"
> > 
> > non-compliant with the usb spec.
> 
> "Non-compliant" is nowhere near the same thing as "non-working". 
> Non-compliance can be due to something as simple as the maker not being 
> willing to pay the licensing fees for the "official" logo.

non-compliant usually means they left something out so it would never
comply even if they wanted it to. 

getting that logo means the ability to charge a higher price, so it's
usually worth it.

> My experience is that, if you're willing to put up with a little bit of 
> annoyance once in a while, you can save a whole lot of money by buying 
> "cheap" cables.

sometimes you can get lucky, but more often than not the 'little bit of
annoyance' soon turns into a showstopper.

i've had cheap cables fail very soon, or random disconnects or other
problems, and compliant cables aren't that much more anyway.

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#29322

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2015-04-22 09:07 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-77BB13.09075722042015@aioe.org>
In reply to#29313
In article <210420151516397365%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <isw-06CE7F.12080921042015@news-roam.garlic.com>, isw
> <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > How can a cable be "counterfeit?"
> > > 
> > > non-compliant with the usb spec.
> > 
> > "Non-compliant" is nowhere near the same thing as "non-working". 
> > Non-compliance can be due to something as simple as the maker not being 
> > willing to pay the licensing fees for the "official" logo.
> 
> non-compliant usually means they left something out so it would never
> comply even if they wanted it to. 

You are not getting it. No good going on about non-compliance when 
counterfeit is the topic of the day.

-- 
dorayme

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#29318

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2015-04-22 08:57 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-A6A05C.08574022042015@aioe.org>
In reply to#29300
In article <210420151115450130%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <5536695f$0$19841$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com>,
> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > How can a cable be "counterfeit?"
> 
> non-compliant with the usb spec.

No. It would still be correctly called counterfeit by those (mainly 
moralistic folks) who would point to legal issues. A counterfeit bank 
note or painting could be physically perfect copies.

-- 
dorayme

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#29301

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-04-21 15:26 +0000
Message-ID<cpn8huF728nU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#29299
On 2015-04-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <cpn299F5jm9U1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-04-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <2015042017243913901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>> >  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> OWC has all the cables you could possibly think of.
>> >> <http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/cables>
>> >
>> > I buy cables and stuff from China via Ebay. Takes a bit longer to 
>> > arrive, but it's cheap and it's made in the same factory.
>> 
>> Not always, no. Many are counterfeit and are not made well.
>
> Okie-dokie. Everything I've bought from China works just fine.

Then you have been lucky. Good for you. Counterfeit accessories have
been known to damage devices, cause syncing or charging issues, cause
fires, and so on. Personally, I'm not willing to take that risk.

> CO detectors, USB sticks, 100' ethernet cables, a wireless keyboard (cute 
> little thing), hell, a new gearshift knob for my Vibe (might be a 
> "counterfeit" though, I dunno). 

None of those are Lightning, Firewire, or USB cables, which is what we
are discussing here.

> How can a cable be "counterfeit?"

Typically they use cheaper and inferior building materials, which
results in poor quality and so on, while claiming to be the real thing:

<http://www.righto.com/2012/03/inside-cheap-phone-charger-and-why-you.html>

<http://www.cablinginstall.com/articles/print/volume-19/issue-8/features/counterfeit-cable-is-getting-ugly.html>

For more information, the web is your friend.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#29333

Fromsctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
Date2015-04-22 02:36 +0000
Message-ID<mh71fe$35m$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29299
On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:14:38 -0400, Warren Oates wrote:

> In article <cpn299F5jm9U1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-04-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <2015042017243913901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>> >  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> OWC has all the cables you could possibly think of.
>> >> <http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/cables>
>> >
>> > I buy cables and stuff from China via Ebay. Takes a bit longer to
>> > arrive, but it's cheap and it's made in the same factory.
>> 
>> Not always, no. Many are counterfeit and are not made well.
> 
> 
> Okie-dokie. Everything I've bought from China works just fine. CO
> detectors, USB sticks, 100' ethernet cables, a wireless keyboard (cute
> little thing), hell, a new gearshift knob for my Vibe (might be a
> "counterfeit" though, I dunno).

So you are the ONE who bought the Pontiac Vibe?  I was wondering who that 
was!

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#29344

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-22 08:19 -0400
Message-ID<553791bc$0$25104$c3e8da3$92d0a893@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#29333
In article <mh71fe$35m$2@dont-email.me>,
 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:14:38 -0400, Warren Oates wrote:
> 
> > In article <cpn299F5jm9U1@mid.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2015-04-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > In article <2015042017243913901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
> >> >  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> OWC has all the cables you could possibly think of.
> >> >> <http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/cables>
> >> >
> >> > I buy cables and stuff from China via Ebay. Takes a bit longer to
> >> > arrive, but it's cheap and it's made in the same factory.
> >> 
> >> Not always, no. Many are counterfeit and are not made well.
> > 
> > 
> > Okie-dokie. Everything I've bought from China works just fine. CO
> > detectors, USB sticks, 100' ethernet cables, a wireless keyboard (cute
> > little thing), hell, a new gearshift knob for my Vibe (might be a
> > "counterfeit" though, I dunno).
> 
> So you are the ONE who bought the Pontiac Vibe?  I was wondering who that 
> was!

Which Pontiac Vibe?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#29525

Fromsctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
Date2015-04-25 15:40 +0000
Message-ID<mhgchp$piu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29344
On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 08:19:07 -0400, Warren Oates wrote:

> In article <mh71fe$35m$2@dont-email.me>,
>  sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:14:38 -0400, Warren Oates wrote:
>> 
>> > In article <cpn299F5jm9U1@mid.individual.net>,
>> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> On 2015-04-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > In article <2015042017243913901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>> >> >  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> OWC has all the cables you could possibly think of.
>> >> >> <http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/cables>
>> >> >
>> >> > I buy cables and stuff from China via Ebay. Takes a bit longer to
>> >> > arrive, but it's cheap and it's made in the same factory.
>> >> 
>> >> Not always, no. Many are counterfeit and are not made well.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Okie-dokie. Everything I've bought from China works just fine. CO
>> > detectors, USB sticks, 100' ethernet cables, a wireless keyboard
>> > (cute little thing), hell, a new gearshift knob for my Vibe (might be
>> > a "counterfeit" though, I dunno).
>> 
>> So you are the ONE who bought the Pontiac Vibe?  I was wondering who
>> that was!
> 
> Which Pontiac Vibe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Vibe

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#29534

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-25 12:29 -0400
Message-ID<553bc0e7$0$43012$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#29525
In article <mhgchp$piu$1@dont-email.me>,
 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 08:19:07 -0400, Warren Oates wrote:
> 
> > In article <mh71fe$35m$2@dont-email.me>,
> >  sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:14:38 -0400, Warren Oates wrote:
> >> 
> >> > In article <cpn299F5jm9U1@mid.individual.net>,
> >> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >> On 2015-04-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > In article <2015042017243913901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
> >> >> >  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> OWC has all the cables you could possibly think of.
> >> >> >> <http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/cables>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I buy cables and stuff from China via Ebay. Takes a bit longer to
> >> >> > arrive, but it's cheap and it's made in the same factory.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Not always, no. Many are counterfeit and are not made well.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Okie-dokie. Everything I've bought from China works just fine. CO
> >> > detectors, USB sticks, 100' ethernet cables, a wireless keyboard
> >> > (cute little thing), hell, a new gearshift knob for my Vibe (might be
> >> > a "counterfeit" though, I dunno).
> >> 
> >> So you are the ONE who bought the Pontiac Vibe?  I was wondering who
> >> that was!
> > 
> > Which Pontiac Vibe?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Vibe

That's the one. Mine was built in Canada.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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